| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/5/2008 10:50:50 AM | You have to love Ric Flair!
He's obviously entertaining, but he was always working. You know when you see Ric that you're going to lose yourself in the storyline for a while.
He had a tremendous work ethic, and lends credibility to wrestling in general as a bridge between the old-generation wrestlers like the Funk brothers, Ole and Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Roddy Piper - who got out WAY too young! - Jerry Lawler, and the newer-generation wrestlers who really haven't captured my imagination.
Ric Flair, even with his "old man" boobs, has a "regular-guy" body. You look at him and you say "Yeah, with some work, and some time in the gym, I can have arms and legs like those." Not like the "superstars" of today who are on juice and have no bodyfat.
Ric Flair, just keep stylin' and profilin'! | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/5/2008 5:05:35 PM | | I have to say its about time Ric flair has retired I mean watching him for the last couple of months. he could bearly win matches ok I know that he's still the man in many peoples eyes. But at his age at what 60 now how much longer do you think he would be able to go on and on and on. I have to say the send off he got last monday night raw wow it almost makes you with you where there. I don't think its the last time we see him the next thing we know he will have his own show. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/7/2008 12:48:51 AM | | ric flair has 3 yrs left on his new wwe contract so he will be coming back in a manager role (i am hoping he manages batista) thing with flair is he always give those awesome promos i will miss those the most | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/7/2008 4:49:49 AM | He did a lot and even though I didn't really watch him until 89 and his feud with Terry Funk in the NWA, he was great.
Even though I wasn't balling like most people last week, I do respect the guy and his accomplishments. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/8/2008 12:30:33 PM | Why is he still in Wrestling? Probably because he's a good actor - like The Undertaker & the rest of them.
Wwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
He must look like Jimmy Saville these days. Hang on, he always did look like Jimmy Saville....
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:20:31 AM | I love Rick. I hat Hogan...from day one, Hogan was Hollywood and very few moves in the ring. Flair was sort of under him, and when Flair was with WCW, he shone, but when Hogan went to WCW afterwards, as a heel, Rick was very defensive. The new king of the block came over. Flair pushed his weight with Eric Bishoff when Hogan came aboard, and Eric gave FLair what he wanted, as opposed to ousting him, as he may have with lesser knowns. Eric admitted that Rick was a ticket draw, and he is.
Perhaps we should now wonder why Vince can't find new Flairs or Hogans or Rocks or Stone Colds....John Cena is the closest he's come, and to me, Cena isn't at all what his predecessors are. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:26:35 AM | watch wrestlemania 3...Paul Bearor has a casket laid out for Hogan, and Flair comes to rip the Hulk . "Big Man, I'm tired a hearin bout those 24 inch pythons..."
Good acting I think...Flair has presence. My sons laughed hysterically when they saw that...they know only the wrestling of today. I think I may have believed that whole story when I watched it live on Cable Tv in 91~~~
He made the cover of April's WWE mag...along side all the big cards...I think he deserves a place there...much more so than Hogan. How do I learn a standing drop kick...can anyone help me??? | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:53:37 AM | Ric Flair is the greatest of all time, being as objective as possible. He trumps Hogan. He trumps everybody.
I agree about Vinnie Mac running out of icons. Cena and Triple H are about the closest things he's got to iconic status right now in terms of currently relevant talent. I don't put Shawn Michaels and the Undertaker in that category as they are generally already considered hall of famers on the decline. Particularly the Undertaker. Shawn can still throw down.
But you're right, the last wave of talent of that magnitude was the Rock / Stone Cold wave. In terms of being household names, Cena would be the closest thing going right now, but even then, he's still not quite on the same level. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 5/5/2008 10:23:44 PM | Bender 72...right on!
We just came from Wrestlemania Revenge in Hamilton (May 3)
Jericho, Kennedy, Regal, Snitsky, good tag match with Kendricks and London, a few others, and the title match of HHH and Orton. The best to me was Regal. He called Kennedy to apologize for his actions on the last RAW, and Kennedy did his thing, resisted. Good match!! Regal made him, as manager of RAw, fight a tag match without a partner. So Regal and Snitsky pummeled him!! I think Kennedy may be he next Flair. He grabs the mic, spouts off in style, but works the ring too. Regal did good that night, I loved his fighting! Orton got booed severly, it was a weapons (street) match by audience vote. But they really didn't use the trash can or chairs too much...more grappling and moves you'd expect from them. My sons gave HHH the Big "L", in spite of everyone booing Orton. Good Boy! But the undercards and Diva match were more interesting I think. C'mon Vince, find it again!!! | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 5/6/2008 6:54:48 PM | | Hell I thought he retired a month ago? Thats another wrestler that sucks same old 3 moves over and over again. The greatest move he ever did was turning his face red and not having a heart attack. Before somebody says I don't know wrestling yes I do thats why I said what I did. Check this out I am in flair county whooo yeah thats talent? | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 5/6/2008 10:45:50 PM | rockerxxx
3 moves?????? How in the hell did flair wrestle consistent 1 hour matches through the majority of his career with only 3 moves? You sure ur not talking bout Hogan> | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 5/7/2008 1:08:21 PM | Can't believe a topic on Wrestling and especially my favorite.
Have 3 shirts and His DVD Bio and fav matches. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 6/2/2008 3:55:41 PM | Ric Flair was one of the most generous Wrestlers when it came to putting people over.
He would help everyone who asked for advice even though he knew some of them would outshine him.
Now thats "The Man" | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 6/4/2008 10:03:28 AM |
Ric Flair was one of the most generous Wrestlers when it came to putting people over.
Whatever, everyone knows that HHH is the king of putting over other wrestlers. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 6/4/2008 11:49:09 AM | | And King of Ending some careers backstage. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/2/2008 6:28:33 PM | | Probably after Hulk Hogan he was the greatest ever, after Hogan he was probably second longest draw in US pro wrestling history..... | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/2/2008 6:29:49 PM | | HHH does not put over too many wrestlers, usually buries them, even in losing. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 9:18:31 AM | | ^^^^^^^ I was being sarcastic with that point. I know Hogan is talked about as being the most recognized face in wrestling. Hogan no doubt is the biggest draw in wrestling history but I believe Flair is the most recognizable wrestler of all time. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 10:02:05 AM |
HHH does not put over too many wrestlers, usually buries them, even in losing.
I disagree there, he put over such guys as Benjamin (2x), Batista, Cena and I remember one match with Maven where he made it look like he was going to drop the strap to him on a Raw in 2004. He can't just go and lose every time just to appease the internet fans.
As for most recognizable, I'd say Hogan is far more recognizable as I've met the guy when they did a press conference here in NYC for Wrestlemania 19 and he sticks out like a sore thumb in public and people flocked to him.
That's not to say that Flair isn't recognizable, but I'd say Hogan beats him in that category. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 12:18:09 PM | Besides a Wrestlemania main event, when HHH does the job, he makes it almost a fluke type win, and the person who goes over they do nothing with. Look at where Benjamin is now, complete jobber on ECW. Do not get me wrong, HHH is alright, but to me always was missing something. When HHH does not hold the world title, his matches are still built up as the main event. He does in many ways play the Nash and Hogan game, but at least Hogan was more acceptable.
Hogan was 5 times the draw and star Flair was, Flair admits that. Hogan will admit Flair was a better worker in the ring, but Hogan did what he was supposed to do. Flair was a heel who would go into territories and make the local talent look good, and Flair would be a bump machine and would retain the title by the skin of his teeth.
I think the 2 best I have ever seen were Hogan and Flair............Austin and Rock were awesome, but not around long enough. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 1:49:49 PM | Trips could only do so much, the rest the other person has to do. In the case of Shelton, great for doing high spots, but the guy can't talk for nothing and has very little charisma. Even J.R said in one of his blogs, that Shelton is more charismatic off camera than he is on.
HHH can't be blamed for that.
He beat Trips twice, Flair and Randy Orton all within a month of debuting on the Raw brand in 2004. The reason why he didn't catch on because the guy can't talk to save his life to connect with the audience. Being able to do cool moves and such is great and all, but if that's all you have, you're doomed in WWE.
I know the internet paints Triple-H as some bad guy who is belt hungry, but I don't believe that at all. I'm sure he has influence with the boss (naturally), but I'm sure he's not sitting around and spending his days plotting how to kill off careers just for his own end.
He's still very popular with the WWE audience, the kids love the guy, so he's good for business and it'd be foolish just to put him down the card just for the sake of putting him down the card.
Also, you don't have to win a match to be put over. Case in point, at No Way Out 08, Jeff Hardy kicked out of the pedigree and not many do that from what I recall, HHH had to do it twice on a chair just to put the guy away. Showing that HHH had to throw the kitchen sink at the guy just to win the match. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 3:55:24 PM | | Ok HD explain Booker T and RVD trips definately buried those two. I can't remember trips putting over an up and coming star who could threaten his top spot. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/3/2008 9:09:37 PM | Most wrestlers that make it past 60 yrs old didn't spend a whole lot of time messing with steriods. Those that did...are deader than doornails...
of course, there are many who recently got nuked because of drug and/or steriod use...anyone notice who's gone out of wrestling in the last 5 years when young & powerful??
And with the ending already scripted...it's become a bit of a bore. Wrestling has become Soap Opera for Men/horny redneck chicks...with worse story lines than GH. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/4/2008 9:25:59 AM |
Ok HD explain Booker T and RVD trips definately buried those two. I can't remember trips putting over an up and coming star who could threaten his top spot.
In the case of Booker.T, I would've loved to have seen Book get the title at WM19, but from what I remember Booker was contemplating retirement around that time and WWE didn't want to put the belt on someone who was on their way out.
RVD was Trips first title defense as World Champ in 2002, there was no chance of him losing it 2 1/2 weeks into the title reign especially when they were trying to get the World Title over as credible weeks after Lesnar left the Raw brand with the WWE title.
Trips put over Cena and Batista on several occasions, and those guys could be seen as two who could threaten his top spot. I know they're not the most popular guys on the net, but they still get huge reactions and their merchandise sells huge, and seeing as WWE is a business, I think that's all that really matters at the end of the day. | |
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| Ric Flair
Posted: 7/4/2008 9:29:10 AM |
And with the ending already scripted...it's become a bit of a bore. Wrestling has become Soap Opera for Men/horny redneck chicks...with worse story lines than GH.
You're entitled to your opinion with regards to whether you like it or not, and it seems you're not shy about making unfounded generalizations as well.
If the aspect of it being scripted or fake bothers you that much, then don't watch. Then again seeing as just about every single show is scripted anyways and assuming you watch various movies and shows (that are scripted), then that's not a really good reason. | |
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