| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 1:22:05 PM | I personally think that the use condoms should be discussed before you ever find yoruself in the situation of actually needing one. And if he refuses then say goodbye.
I personally believe in testing and even tested while in a long term sexual relationship with someone. Not because I don't trust them, simply because you just never know. As well, and some people don't know this very true fact but there are diseases that are transmitted sexually to a partner that develop in the human body all by themselves believe it or not and you would never knew you had them or the damage they could do unless you are tested. Granted these types of diseases are very rare but do happen.
Your best defense if you are going to be sexual with someone is using a condom with a Noxonal #9 coating, and even using a foam or insert form of birth control containing Noxonal with a condom along with it. Noxonal #9 has been found to kill many viri " the plural of virus. ", as well as bacteria. It well it kills the male sperm which is why it is used as a form of birth control but is only about 80 to 89 percent effective, mainly because it is not inserted properly in most cases of pregancy that occur when it is used as the sole means of protection. But by itself is not ample / effective protection in sexually transmitted disease prevention.
Ok had my say!
Be well,
John | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 7:13:20 PM | | Actually John, that info is incorrect...we should avoid N9 products...yes they are a spermicide(kill sperm) but they can actually increase the possibility or STI's..spermicides are notorious for inflamming vaginal tissues, thus making it more easy to to pass on Sexually transmitted infections. Birth control and protection from STI's are issues that need to be negotiated differently. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 7:24:20 PM | | Yep Ronnie, that's very true. Non-oxynol9, as you said, puts women at greater risk of contracting something. Many woman react to this spermicide, because it's so darn irritating. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 7:29:09 PM | Boxo, your statements make no sense.
"I wouldn't have sex with someone if I thought there was any chance it would be necessary to use a condom. The condom wouldn't be effective enough to put me at ease."
So how on earth can you pick out a person who you don't think it would be necessary to wear a condom with? You could meet yourself a matronly librarian who wears Mrs Roper housedresses and lives with her elderly mother and hasn't been on a date in 2 decades but it only took one crazy night she had back in the 80s where she slept with the drummer from a rock band and contracted something..........and how would you know? You make it sound like there's people out there where there's no need to worry about them having diseases - you're wrong. Unless your psychic, you have no idea of the full and complete sexual history of anyone you might encounter......so you're at risk with ANYONE you might consider sleeping with.
You go on to say that condoms give people a false sense of security - so then again, I ask you, how do YOU protect YOURSELF from getting something? Can't wait to read it. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 7:34:04 PM |
You make it sound like there's people out there where there's no need to worry about them having diseases - you're wrong Sure there are. I call them: The people who don't have diseases. (Not everyone has an STD.) | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/11/2006 10:08:12 PM | Boxo,
Not everyone that does have a disease even knows they have one either. I read an article about Herpes 2 and the article stated that 3 out of 4 women have this STD. Now that is scary to me. Hec C is also much more previlent than most people realize. More people are diagnosed with Hec C now than with AIDS, which makes it now our Number One STD. The public is not being educated about Hep C like we were AIDS. People do not always have symptoms of a STD.Reading these posts make me even more aware of the need for sexual protection. So many people are ignorant of the symptoms of a STD or even that they could have one. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 12:20:42 AM | | If the other person doesn't care enough to protect themselves, how could they ever care about someone else? Just slip them a condom, if they don't want to use it, leave. Don't people realize that you need to boil people twice nowadays before having sex with them? There's too much nasty crap out there. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 3:54:22 AM | I actually live quite dangerously. Okay, all of you *perfect* people take this moment to GASP in shock. I have had unprotected sex. Repeatedly. Stupid? ABSOLUTELY. But sometimes it just HAPPENS and they can't keep it hard if there's a raincoat, etc, and well, just plain stupid. I'm military, so yes I get tested annually, and these indiscretions are rare, but they DO happen. What do I do? I don't drink while dating. Not anymore. What makes perfect sense sober goes OUT the window when your tipsy. Go figure. Now I'm thinking (sober and dating), that if HE drinks, he's going to have WHISKEY****(can't get it up). That's why they don't want protection after they drink. The condom usually makes it just give up hope. No erection. No unprotected sex. Unfortunately, it also means I won't be calling again because, really, what a horrible first impression.  | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 6:24:56 AM | You guys are talking about sex like you have to have it. You don't. You can choose when, if, who. Let's go way out on a limb here and imagine you were going to apply logic here for just a few seconds. There could be some kind of conditional statement. Something like: If you're not sure, don't have sex.
I realize that would cut down on a lot of sex acts that would otherwise go on, but to me that's the only way to keep from spreading diseases. I liken it to not jumping from an airplane unless you are wearing a parachute.
I am all for condoms for people who are going to take risks. Condoms act as a barrier to certain kinds of virii and bacteria, and so using a condom may prevent whatever they got from getting to you. Unless of course it is also in their saliva, or on their skin someplace near the condom that isn't protected by it, or leaks from the condom, or something else happens. If you are going to have sex with someone you can't be sure of, by all means use a condom.
But if you are hyper-paranoid about STD's like I am, you choose to wait, go without, have safe fun, and take the time it takes to take the steps it takes to make sure when you do have sex it's with someone who knows whether they have any STD's and they don't. I am not out looking for the next fun time. I don't pursue anyone who seems likely to be sleeping around for recreational purposes. I don't sleep with people who can't be certain, to my satisfaction, about their status regarding STD's.
The world has more kinds of people than the young and the restless, whose rates of infection are scary these days. There are some people who are very conscientious about this stuff. They don’t go to bars to get picked up, and they don’t lurk on dating sites to get picked up. They wait patiently and make sure of what they are doing before they act.
I couldn't enjoy sex if I also had to worry about whether or not I was getting or giving an STD. It would limpify the experience for me. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 8:38:14 AM | I totally understand where you're coming from, BoxoFrocks - and yes, condoms don't provide 100% protection - I think that's been established...........but you come across as believing that someone you can, with time, "tell" if someone is high risk for an STD or not. Just because someone doesn't go to bars and get picked up doesn't mean they're necessarily at a lower risk of having, say, Herpes or Human Papilloma Virus, or Hepatitis B. You could take the most conversative, straight-laced, proper, moral person around - who's never had casual sex in their life - but if they were in a seemingly monogamous relationship in the past and THEIR partner was screwing around, unbeknownst to them (which is often the case), they could themself have contracted something. Anybody who's ever slept with anybody is at risk of having something - whether they're the village bicycle or the town librarian. You seem to be saying that somehow you can know a person's risk by the lifestyle they lead - that's bogus and ALSO about as false of a sense of security as you believe condoms are.
Nowhere do I read that you believe in and insist on a partner getting properly tested with bloodtests and type-specific cultures - do you believe that's necessary? Or do you just think you can "tell" if someone might have someone because of their lifestyle? | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 10:02:43 AM | | Hey boxo, if you want to respond like an a***hole when people dare to question your vague statements, whatever flops your mop, I guess. I'm always intrigued by people who have strong opinions about something yet when questioned, can't seem to present a basis for their strong opinions. Peace out, girlscout. (and yeah, I know you're a guy). | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 10:34:01 AM | Hey boxo, if you want to respond like an a***hole when people dare to question your vague statements, whatever flops your mop, I guess. I'm always intrigued by people who have strong opinions about something yet when questioned, can't seem to present a basis for their strong opinions.
Alberta... you go girl! I agree with you here. I am not here to attack anyone but to state such opinionated views on a subject then be so vaugh about backing it up is not very intelligent. Anyone can have a STD even if they have abstained from sex. STDs can be contracted through Doctor/Dental visits, being in the hospital,or from someone you have a working relationship with, etc. People with STDs do not have a Scarlett Letter on their forehead as Boxo seems to believe. | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/12/2006 11:07:08 AM | First of all, is it to provoke a response that you present me with an idiotic assumption claiming it is what I said? If so, great tactic! If not, then why? Secondly, if I answer a challenge like that am I not rewarding your boorish, confrontational jab? How does this become personal, anyway? Discuss the subject, agree or not, whatever, but when you turn on someone and call names, well, my dog sneezes in your general direction, as the French might say. You made up what I said, so you answer it for yourself. I am going to report you to the Director of Internet Obstreperousness.
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/15/2006 8:31:43 PM | | I carry my own condoms now when it comes to dental dams well I hate the way it taste and feels so if she is offended by my request of oral without protection then its no oral at all | |
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/16/2006 8:10:39 AM | I basically but the issue right in my profile; (and this does not mean that I am going to have sex with someone just because I meet them for coffee) I am not into casual sex and protection is not optional. So if that scares people away from my profile....then they were the wrong one for me anyway... but I guess it would help so that people know something about expectations if they/you should be so lucky for it to get so far......it may also make it easier to be clear about it later (again if they you should be so lucky for it to get that far)... I basically just took a random sample of all the questions that I get on email and posted it on my profile and that way if people are interested in different things about me then they got the story/lowdown right there.......including sex and my take on unprotected 
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| How do you handle the issue of Sexual Protection ?
Posted: 2/21/2006 11:28:11 AM | Condom, yes.
Not so much that i am worried about disease (i am), but, i fought for 3 and half years for full custody of my daughter, and brought my ex-wife to her lowest point, i had to do what i had to do to make sure my daughter was going to be raised right. I'd hate to do that to another person because we had sex, the relationship didn't work, and a child was concieved. | |
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