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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:21:53 PM | OMG! RosyRed...you GET it!! Oh, I'm so thrilled! Thank you for posting here. That was truly awesome!
....Although, I'm a little worried now, because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't date me -- I can be a pain in the ass. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:30:15 PM | | O.k rosey......please explain what you mean by within your league.I didn't know PEOPLE came in leagues.Is there a stamp somewhere on their forehead that says I'm in the A or double AA league?Who gives A SHIT who likes you or not.........the important thing is ''I like me'' and I don't need anybody to like me in order to be happy. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:53:11 PM |
the important thing is ''I like me'' and I don't need anybody to like me in order to be happy.
aaahhhh...but see John therin lies the rub. To qualify as a TOOL you need to be in denial and to be looking for validation from someone else. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 5:17:56 PM | The problem with tools is that they want to feel appreciated for their feelings of lack of self-worth.The people who are nice to you you APPRECIATE them but you don't RESPECT them.When ANYONE'S on the pity pot you REPECT the ONE who tells you what a piece of shit you are even though you hate them for doing it.A typical ANALOGY would be if you're house is on fire the people who appreciate you will pat you on the back and tell you not to worry because many people's HOUSES are on fire.THE PERSON YOU FEAR YET respect WILL TELL YOU TO TAKE THE HOSE AND PUT THE FIRE OUT YOU STUPID SHIT!You might hate that Son of a **** most of the time but when the chips are down you better have somebody in your life that you can RESPECT AND WHO WILL GIVE YOU STRAIGHT ANSWERS.Most people are human and whine and feel bad once in a while but it's important to have someone in your life that can get you back on track when these CRAPPY feelings CREEP UP ON YOU.The adult in me is mature but it's that inner child that everyone roars about that bugs me and i swear to GOD if I ever find that inner child in me that wants to WHINE i'LL choke him unconcious!
FOOLS......IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A HUMAN AGAIN,i was getting tired of being a mason's hammer. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 8:34:01 PM | | John - people do come in leagues in terms of their maturity level and character. It would be wrong of me, you or anyone to expect a partner to be greater than who we already are. Ex: delusional fantasies of being "rescued" yet taking no responsibility to contribute to a relationship because past traumas & issues somehow make a person feel exempt from being a mature, functioning adult. My point is to rescue oneself, as hard as that is, and then one would be worthy of a date or a relationship. Don't expect others to do it for you if they are higher-functioning and possess a broader level of awareness. Acquire these yourself, don't whine, don't ask for pity, don't ask for assurances; learn to stand alone and gain much self-respect in the process (and probably gain the admiration of the opposite sex too). My definition of "league" has nothing to do with wealth, status, beauty, talent or the like; it has everything to do with inner strength and self-reliance. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 9:31:12 PM | rosey......if i told you how much inner strength i have you probably wouldn't believe me. As far as AWARENESS goes it's really easy to spot AWARE people because they are identifiable by their thin blue lips and talk in circles all day!lol | |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 11:37:20 PM | | Hey John, I wasn't evaluating your character, you're probably everything you say you are...when I said "you" in my previous post, it wasn't you personally; more like you the people reading my post who can identify with what I'm saying. Maybe I need a grammar refresher. :) | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 10:20:20 AM | A typical ANALOGY would be if your house is on fire the people who appreciate you will pat you on the back and tell you not to worry because many people's HOUSES are on fire. THE PERSON YOU FEAR YET respect WILL TELL YOU TO TAKE THE HOSE AND PUT THE FIRE OUT YOU STUPID SHIT!
You might hate that Son of a **** most of the time but when the chips are down you better have somebody in your life that you can RESPECT AND WHO WILL GIVE YOU STRAIGHT ANSWERS.
Words to live by. I'm getting them tattooed on my left buttock, all except the "FEAR" part. (Can you respect someone without fearing them?)  | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 11:02:06 AM | ^^^
I think he's talking in a biblical sense or fear of a parent who uses a belt occasionally.
<---- Often feared, rarely respected. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 11:19:22 AM | AHHHH, I see. Thanks! ( <--- only agreeing with Astrosky because I fear her.)
Well, to tie in to the OT topic, I think a being a TOOL falls nicely under the first part of that statement, where one wants only the cheap, soulless comfort of "Awww, there, there, it's not your fault, women are mean but you're a GREAT guy!" fed to them, whereas a NON-TOOL would fall under the latter part. A NON-TOOL can hear less-than-flattering observations and think, "Hmmm, maybe they have a point." | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 11:48:40 AM | | Actually I meant FEAR as in the type of person one would avoid because of their straight forwardness and HONESTY.......NOT THE PHYSICAL FEAR.Alot of people shop for answers FROM ALOT OF PEOPLE until they hear what they WANT to hear WHERE AS someone you respect sees through you and tells you what you need to HEAR and we avoid them because it's PAINFUL to follow the advice they are giving. It's difficult to WAKE UP TO LIFE when you're so nice and comfortable and ASLEEP in bed.It's painful to see one's illusions shattered.STOP ALL YOUR CRYING AND WAKE UP!! | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 12:18:03 PM | Ah, yes, I am guilty of laying the truth upon many and therefore I am avoided and feared on general principles. The sin of telling it like it is incites many tools to anger of the violent sort (those who prefer to end arguments with their fists). At this point they gain my fear but not my respect, as I discovered a long time ago that my mouth causes me bruises and often the bruises are a reward for being right. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 1:46:23 PM | ^^^I fear Astrosky due to her usage of a belt for discipline...oh wait, wrong forum....
You don't really say it as you see it do you? Good Lord, say it ain't so. Where's that coddling, nurturing nature that wimmin-folk are supposed to be born with? How's a simpering tool supposed to get any satisfaction from that?
Ok, crawling back into my bottle now....  | |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 10:16:09 PM | Hey, I've been begged for more of that belt...oh, that's another thread too.
Often the truth comes rushing out my mouth without being tempered by the estrogen in my system. Example: tool comes running up to me insisting I empty my bank account for some trivial purchase they desperately want. What generally comes out my mouth is "Well, if you got a damn job you wouldn't need to ask me for money"! (insert "pow, right in the kisser" icon here)
Ralph Kramden is a fine example of a tool! In fact, old episodes of the Honeymooners will plainly show you just how a tool operates. I have often found myself cast in the roll of Alice; rolling my eyes as I try to insert logic where there is none, pointing out the flaws in crazy ego-driven schemes, etc. Ralph's anger at Alice's zingers is typical tool reaction (and you can bet IRL it goes past the threat stage - it was certainly implied and common enough with that generation). Did Ralph fear Alice? Yes, because she spoke the truth he did not want to hear. Shouting "I'll prove you wrong!" he went right on being a tool, then came crawling back in shame so she could kiss his boo-boos and he could tell her "Baby, you're the greatest".
Other well-known tools would include Fred Flintstone, Homer Simpson, and the dad on Family Guy. And of course the most classic tool of all - Tim Taylor of Tool Time fame! All insist they are nice guys and depend on their spouses to keep their act together.
Many of the tools on POF are desperately seeking the yin to their yang, the level-headed, organized, intelligent, often sharp-tongued woman who will help them bumble through life. Strangely, there are few women who consider this their dream match; the Marge Simpsons and Wilma Flintones of the world have usually divorced one tool already and are not in a big hurry to find another.
Oh! Not to be sexist - if you want to see a female tool look no further than Peg Bundy of Married with Children. | |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:46:48 PM | I'll probably regret this but I wanted to comment on the general idea put forth regarding dating within ones own league...
I do not profess to be anywhere near an expert in the area of social skills, but jeeze, I learned the basic idea of "ones own league" at age 14 or so. I don't understand how a person,,,,, sorry, a "tool" could actually make it to adulthood and not be aware of that idea.
Anyway, for the sake of education, here are some parameters (in my opinion and by no means meant to be absolutes) of the idea of one's own league.....
1- If you have only a highschool education it is unlikely you will attract a person who has a PhD. Even if you do, you will not have a lot to talk about.
2- If your profile shows you are on 3 others favorites list (I'm currently on zero), it is unlikely the one on 489 others favorites lists will reply to your e-mail.
3- If you have no profile picture, have only a profile and write no e-mails, or say absolutely nothing in the forums, you will probably attract no one at all.
4- If your profile has words that the bot has had to replace with asterisks, chances are you are not going to attract the really conservative nice fellow or the sweet old fashioned gal.
5- If your description of self includes tags like "BBW" or describes your magnificent naughtybits, or your muscles yo are not going to attract a person interested in your intellect.
6- If you can't spell properly and construct decent sentences, (profile or forums) you are never going to attract anyone who is really clever.
7- If you have to have things spelled out for you before you can grasp an idea, you should read a lot of topics in forums on a lot of internet sites before you even attempt to write anything at all for the public to read and that includes at least reading the first message in a thread and hopefully a few others to get the general gist of the conversation.
8- If your picture shows you standing next to your favorite pickup truck or Chevy, you have to remember that some people out there may have a Ferarri and would ignore you on that alone.
9- If you have a cat, show it's picture because some people absolutely hate them and the smell of the house where they live. ***okay that's a joke***
10- If your picture shows your tattoos or you wearing anything other than normal street clothes or sports attire, you will probably not attract a person who is not just another tool. Exception being that you specifically state your profession is in the performing arts and the costume is one you recently wore on stage. In case you don't understand that, there is a big difference in "league" between an accomplished actor or actress and just an idiot wearing silly clothes.
(Can ya tell number seven is a pet peeve of mine?) | |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 3:50:55 PM | Isobaric: No fair using reason and logic!! Besides, people who are out of my league and don't want me are just "shallow," even though I myself am shallow for wanting someone "out of my league" in the first place.
For your consideration, I present the typical tool profile:
"Hello, I'm an overweight, uneducated, lazy-minded, unemployed chronic complainer who can't meet any good women/men, because the ones who like *me* aren't good enough for me -- I just don't find them attractive.
Want to know more about me? Just email me!" | |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 7:35:55 PM | | awww....Ms. Ann, you promised you wouldn't bring that up, and I did do the changes that you recommended after all.... | |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 7:58:05 PM | Wishing I were in Ms. Ann's league. Hmmmm, I wonder if I bought one of those white lab coats......  | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 6:07:14 PM | Fools -- yes, you DID remove the TOOLish bits of your profile, and now aren't you happier? I bet you get all kinds of emails now.
Isobaric -- I promise you, you don't want to be in my league -- especially when I moult. It's very itchy. In fact, I feel a 90-day moult coming on right now.
*itch itch itch* | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 6:48:41 PM |
Few are brave enough to sit in a dark room and really contemplate their own shortcomings and then resolve to reform. The norm is blame others, excuse oneself. Otherwise, how can anyone expect to get back more then they put in? Everyone, from the most vile to the most successful, has the time and resourses to move up in class, even just a little. I think that's what life's all about - to become better people.
While I dig what you're driving at, I'm not much of a reformer.. more of a reflector, myself.
I've never blamed anyone else but me for any problems I've had, though admittedly... dating and the opposite sex themselves have never given me any problems that could even be counted as mildly serious. I guess I'm lucky or... possibly far too uncaring about such things. Perhaps I just bounced back really quickly from issues that arose. Who knows?
The point is that I don't feel plagued by problems, but believe me, that's not to say that I have none at all.
I personally don't buy the "in your league" thing.
Anyway, I would totally date me. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:42:04 PM | Oh my God! I've just posted a thread asking what turns men off, since being rejected by three different. When I saw this one, I was paranoid you were talking about me until I saw the date it was started.  (Yes, some of us are a little sensitive.)
I asked my question not to throw a pity party but to find out if I am behaving like a tool so I can change it. Perhaps others who complain are also looking to change themselves.
Ms Adventure | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 5:49:37 AM | Ms Ann:
OOOOOHHH...the toolish bits...naw I left them in, I thought you said the naughty bits and took them out (it was a rather ratty looking thong I was in anyway.)
Ms Adventure:
Perhaps it's the glowing orb that you hold in your pics. That whole omnipotent god-like impression could be throwing some guys off by intimidation.
Just keep fishing and if that doesn't work, try trawling (slower speeds, big nets).
OT: Complaints aren't TOOLish, perpetual whining without making any changes are. Even if the only change to be made is to stop whining about it (sorta like the "if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" theory). | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 4:23:34 PM | | Let's leave out all the fishy puns. I've had a harrowing day and like to come here just for the halibut. | |
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