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| Now let me get this Straight,Bush is a Great guy and He is Going to Save Us All...*J*
Posted: 2/6/2005 5:14:31 PM | backgroundnoise,
First, I never engage in personal attacks especially when debating. I don't think Coati meant to attack you personally. I have read many of his posts and rarely do his discussions get personal.
Secondly, based on what you said about your qualifications you appear to be qualified as an expert as to the technical details of the IMF - true enough. I am educated as well, but my field is health. What I am talking about is 'Big Picture' stuff.
I wanted to comment on a few things if I may. Namely your quote here:
I know the 'evils' of globalization. Believe it or not, I'm considered progressive amongst my circle of peers for my views on international debt financing and globalization.
So you are at least aware of the manipulation taking place for the benefit of gloalist bankers, no? If so, good we are in agreement. The next thing I wish to clarify is this:
However, I'm also a realist with a first hand view of the realities of the situation.
What specifically does this mean to you? please clarify.
Also: I just want you to comment if you don't mind on a few things for me as a university professor level in economics (in all seriousness - no offense intended):
1. What do you think of the Fed (i.e. 5 charters in England, fractionized banking, etc.)
2. What do you think of US trade deficit is thought to be around US$400 billion and getting worse.
3. The US government provides US$5 billion annually in subsidies to the fossil fuel industry (coal, oil, gas, petrol).
4. The purposeful devaluation of the US federal Reserve Note (note: I didn't say US dollar).
5. What do you think of NAFTA?
6. Have you heard of the new currency called, "The Amero?"
7. Have you heard of the new currency called, "The Phoenix?"
The essence of the problem is the state of bankruptcy and there are only very few solutions to that problem regardless of the cultural, regional, religious or economic variables at play.
Look, all I'm saying is if you want to fix blame and condemnation on someone, try first looking at the governing party of the country that went bankrupt, and then look at the developed nations that seek to take advantage of this country through the use of the IMF
I wish to ask you in all seriousness, what do you think causes third world debt to require to be rescued by the IMF? Which Criterion do you use with which to conclude that the IMF and the World Bank are not to blame via it's economic agents?
The world is more dastardly than you know my friend. And all I am saying is that there is indeed an agenda here. And it is globbalisation. | |
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| Now let me get this Straight,Bush is a Great guy and He is Going to Save Us All...*J*
Posted: 2/6/2005 5:16:38 PM |
And I wasn't attempting to intimidate you with economic terms.
Cool, sorry to sound defensive. I don't exactly have a huge base in economics, but I do a lot of recreational reading in poli-sci (of which, of course, economics has a huge impact on.)
Also, I've had quite a few discussions with economists and find that whenever the argument tends to turn against them they start throwing around all kinds of terms.. The idea being that if you don't know what they're talking about, then they know more than you do.
I'm not implying you're one of those types, but just wanted to wave the flag that that approach won't phase me one bit.
I'll get a new thread going in a couple minutes here... | |
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| Now let me get this Straight,Bush is a Great guy and He is Going to Save Us All...*J*
Posted: 2/6/2005 6:14:00 PM | Fixit, you're going to have to give me some time to answer those questions if you actually want a real answer: 1 - 5 aren't exactly quick answers, and my own area of expertise is actually industrial organization/IPR economics.
However, I can tell you that there are no such currencies called the Amero (or as some people call it the NAD) or the Phoenix. They are both hypotheticals, the former being some sort of theoretical defense response to the Euro, the other being a fantasy name for a hypothetical world currency as written about in the late 80s (I can't remember who came up with the Phoenix, could have been one of the writer's for the Economist).
Unless of course, the whole point of these questions are some sort of test of my credibility, in which case I'm not interested in playing the game, either take my word for what I am or not. However, being in the health field maybe you feel like answering some questions of your own:
1) What do you think of WHO and its so-called non-partisan stance towards research?
2) What are your feelings on the possibility of immunotherapeutic treatments for spinal cord injuries in which the Myelin Sheaths are still alive where the spinal break occurred?
3) What do you think about the research on Crohn's disease incorporating parasitic worms that had amazingly positive results, but was not allocated any funding for expanded experimental design - which some people attribute to the pharmaceutical companies identifying it as having no viable profitability?
4) Is the residency competition process in Canada efficient or unfair?
5) What are your feelings about cross-species tissue transplants, or using cellular material from a hetergenous species for NGF therapy?
6) What object do colo-rectal surgeons most often find lodged in people's rectums?
7) I took a really bad climbing fall in the summer and missed the crash mat. There was no damage to any of the bones in my foot, and no one bothered to check for damage to the connective tissue. Yet all these months later, when I wake up in the mornings, the outside of my foot feels like it is tearing itself apart whenever I take a step. Why? Seriously, none of my doctors know why. | |
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| Now let me get this Straight,Bush is a Great guy and He is Going to Save Us All...*J*
Posted: 2/6/2005 7:28:44 PM | backgroundnoise,
LOL, alright all kidding aside. Of the questions I asked you, I was very serious about a response to 1, and 4-7. You answered 6 and 7 with some satisfaction on my part. I do wish to hear what you have to say about 1 and 4 given the criminal or conspiractial nature of both (i.e. what do they teach you about that, and/or what do you know "perspective"). I admit to playing the game of credibility with 2 and 3, LOL.
I know the numberous questions you asked me are of the same nature, but I will answer them regardless - then I have to go workout.
1) What do you think of WHO and its so-called non-partisan stance towards research?
Whatever. Is this suppose to be common knowledge? A geopolitical question is not a health question related to medical knowledge - my area of expertise, and I have given this no prior thought, therefore, I have no opinion.
2) What are your feelings on the possibility of immunotherapeutic treatments for spinal cord injuries in which the Myelin Sheaths are still alive where the spinal break occurred?
I find your question interesting in the sense that you use "immunotherapeutic" as a viable therapy for spinal break. Clearly they are not related. Why would you provide immunotherapeutic treatment for a orthopedic condition (unless of course you are referring to Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimer's Disease, Cruetzfeld Jacob Dx, or Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis)? To apply to your question they would either have to be pathogenic factors or autoimmune disease as I have listed and would not apply to a spinal break. Either 1. you are testing me? (shame on you)or 2. you have no idea what you are talking about. Which is it?
I believe that a surgical fusion is a viable solution in the case of a spinal break. In the case of autoimmune demyelination syndromes, reduced intake of aspartame, omega 3 and 6 fatty acids to rebuild myelin sheath in the PNS, and astrocytes in the CNS, and allergy treatment - which is really what demyelination syndromes are.
3) What do you think about the research on Crohn's disease incorporating parasitic worms that had amazingly positive results, but was not allocated any funding for expanded experimental design - which some people attribute to the pharmaceutical companies identifying it as having no viable profitability?
What do you think of it? Not playing (i.e. in the context of this discussion - not enough interest to waste that time). I have my own protocol for Chrohn's disease.
4) Is the residency competition process in Canada efficient or unfair?
I never said I was a medical doctor (MD). I am a doctor of chiropractic (D.C.) with a Bachelor's of Science in Biology (B.S.). FYI - we spend as many years in school and according to recent research actually get 400 more hours of instruction - just no residency.
5) What are your feelings about cross-species tissue transplants, or using cellular material from a hetergenous species for NGF therapy?
They teach you about Nerve Growth Factor in economy school eh? I don't think we should be doing anything as it relates to cross-species transplants. I think chimeras are an abomination. Sick what we have become. The is simply little ethics in science anymore.
6) What object do colo-rectal surgeons most often find lodged in people's rectums?
Sh*t. LOL. No, really as it pertains to my profession, I would suggest that many find old food that has putrified to the point of blackness -and sticks to the colon wall (diverticulae), as well as crypotsporidium, ascarus, roundworms, hookworms, tapeworm, etc. Oh yea, and your candida albicans. Large diverticulitis.
7) I took a really bad climbing fall in the summer and missed the crash mat. There was no damage to any of the bones in my foot, and no one bothered to check for damage to the connective tissue. Yet all these months later, when I wake up in the mornings, the outside of my foot feels like it is tearing itself apart whenever I take a step. Why? Seriously, none of my doctors know why.
If it pertains to simply the local region, it could be a myofascial tear, or damage to the muscular proprioceptors (type 1A). It could be that you have a motor rediculopathy affecting the S1 efferent pathway (did you have damage to you sacral region?). It could be a plain neuropathy affecting the nerve associated with the muscle fibers located in that area (sural N.?). It could be plantar fascitis. Do you have any loss of sensation as well? Any back pain too? Do you have diaetes (suggesting a possible vascular component)?
I was serious about my questions (except 2 and 3 ), and have answered your questions. So I am done playing the "waste my time" game. Please tell me what you think with regard to my prior questions. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2005 9:59:43 PM | Ok, basically the Fed is a private bank owned by corrupt people, rather than the US Government - which is unconstitutional. The Federal Reserve System prints money in the United States.I just want to know what an economist is toldof this.
The Federal Reserve Bank
The 7 men that gathered in secret at Jekyll Island to plot the structure of the New World Order / Banking System were;
Senator Nelson Aldrich the father in law of John D. Rockefeller.
Abraham Piatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of Treasury
Henry P. Davidson, Senior Partner of J. P. Morgan Company;
Charles D. Norton, President of J. P. Morgan's Bankers Trust Company
Benjamin Strong, President of Bankers Trust Company which was owned by J. P. Morgan.
Frank A. Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank of New York, representing William Rockefeller and the international investment banking house of Kuhn, Loeb & Company.
Paul M. Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Company, a representative of the Rothschild banking dynasty in England and France, and the brother to Max Warburg who was the head of the Warburg banking consortium in Germany and the Netherlands.
The Principle Shareholders of the Federal Reserve
Rothschild Banks of England and Berlin
Warburg Banks of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seiff Banks of Italy
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Lehman Brothers of New York
Kuhn Loeb of New York
Goldman Sacks of New York
Other stockholders and individuals who own large blocks of stocks in banks that own shares of the FED banks.
First National Bank of New York
National City Bank, New York
National commerce Bank, New York
Hanover National Bank, New York
Paul Warburg, Levi Morton, George F. Baker, Mrs. G. F. St. George, Katherine St. George, J. P. Morgan, James Stillman, Mary W. Harnman, A. D. Julliard, Jacob Schiff, Thomas Ryan, William Rockefeller, M. T. Pyne, J. W. Sterling, H. P. Davidson, Edith Brevour T. Baker.
I have tried to get confirmation of the actual split in ownership through the United States Chamber of Commerce and they informed me that the stockholders will not be disclosed. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2005 12:00:39 AM | Well, I can say that that is not a history of the Federal Reserve that is taught in University. In fact we really don't teach a hell of a lot about the federal reserve itself - as in all aspects of economics, assumptions are God, and the broader the assumptions, the better. So general monetary theory somewhat treats all central banks as being the same for broad analytical frameworks. And that is how the theory is taught. It's only later if one chooses to specifically research contrasts in policies, does one really bother to delve into the heterogeneity of the central banks around the world.
Anyway, it is a rumour that I have heard of, but who knows? I won't say that I'm dubious - I mean I fully give credence to the theories about the Seven Sisters and Jacobin Association. However, that particular aspect of the history and organization of the Federal Reserve is not something that I've really given a lot of thought to myself (of course, being Canadian, I still view it as an evil entity, only insofar as the monetary policy dictated by Greenspan - or his handlers if you like - have an impact on Canadian economic stabilization and growth policies).
I was reading through your list of names, and it's interesting, Vanderlip's name also comes up in reference to the Jacobins as well. | |
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| Now let me get this Straight,Bush is a Great guy and He is Going to Save Us All...*J*
Posted: 2/7/2005 6:37:47 AM | S'ok though!! North Korea is waiting for the "Big Bad USA Army!!" Ewww Scareey. Not so scary when they haven't been tested yet are they? If they were as mean and bad as CNN projects them, 911 wouldn't have happen. Try flying within 50 miles of the N. Korea DMZ and see how long your plane stays intact.
No one wants to admit it but, how come there was one ethnicity that was pre-warned about the 911 attacks and to get out of the buildings? This same "group" runs most of America...
Korea is waiting bad boyz!!! But Hitler wannabe will probably invade Iran next and make a billion more enemies... | |
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Posted: 2/18/2005 8:40:54 AM |  I'm inclined to be in full agreement with (joefixit) in that George w.Bush is god incarnent,the first born son of Apollian and for all of us to be pollitically correct,We should ALL BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP HIM!!! We should also let his thug's inject a microchip under our skin so George and his friends can know exactly where we are,at every houre of every day and night
and just in case the powers that be get in a bad mood,they should be able to reverse the polarety of our blood and kill us instantly through our chip implants,weather we have committed a crime or not...(-; | |
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Posted: 2/23/2005 11:27:03 AM | Bush is the real Nazi. Not a metaphoric Nazi for his policies, but his family is the real thing.
Let's kick it off with this: http://www.whatsmells.com/ghb_nwo.rm
Prescott's father, Samuel P. Bush, owned Buckeye Steel Castings Co. which made parts for the Harriman brothers' father's (E.H. Harriman) railroads. Harriman's financing for the railroads came largely from William Rockefeller. These shipped the oil of his brother John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. (This was the origin of the two Georges' involvement in the oil business.)
Samuel Bush became a leader in President Woodrow Wilson's "War Socialism" as director of small armaments and ammunition on the War Industries Board (which set up coercive price-fixing cartels over American industry during World War I). There, Bush assisted Percy Rockefeller (son of William) in his takeover of small arms manufacturers.
Woodrow Wilson signed the ominous Federal Reserve Act of 1913 which put the production of currecy in the hands of a few private bankers. Which means they print money (paper) and we pay full face value for it - plus interest - to a private company (see: Creature from Jeckel Island).
I find this quote interesting:
"National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing of a new world order."
Adolph Hitler during World War II
*note: slight deviation from the topic here - please bear with me for a few paragraphs.
Interesting, the phrase "New World Order" came out of the mouth of Adolf Hitler. When in September 11th, 1990, George Herbert Walker Bush at a UN summit:
"...Out of these troubled times, a new world order can emerge"
and this:
"We will succeed in the Gulf. And when we do, the world community will have sent an enduring warning to any dictator or despot, present or future, who contemplates outlaw aggression. The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fufill the long-held promise of a new world order - where brutality will go unrewarded, and aggression will meet collective resistance."
President George Bush State of the Union Address 1991
THE POINT:
Given the serious nature of this please bear with me here. I don't like even saying this as it is scary to me even. What we have is a Nazi regime which was based on the Rockefeller Standard Oil Eugenics study at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Eugenics and Human Heredity in Germany. The Nazi Party itself funded by Brown Brothers (fellow bonesman: Prescott Bush, Averall Harriman) Union bank in the United States. Auchwitz and other horrible eugenics programs are carried out by the "genetically superior" (demented) Aryan race killing millions. The grandfather and fellow bonesman (Order of Death member) of our current President of the United States (George Walker Bush) financed the Hitler Nazi party with his partner Averall Harriman. The Bushs are related to the monarchy of England (may not have any bearing on this discussion). George HW Bush exactly 11 years before the tragic events of WTC 9/11 events announces his "New World Order" in a UN speech. Given their ties to the real Nazi party, it begs a question: Are the Nazis in power of the most powerful nation in the world? The U.S.. And if so, what is the real agenda?
A Bush funded the real Nazis, and a Bush is now President of the United States. You could argue that it is merely the sins of the father - but I don't think so. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2005 11:35:24 AM | Hip Hip Horray George is going to bring us another war. The US record for precision bombing is 100,000 civilian dead, I'm sure George will kill even more Arabs this time around.
Lets all thank God for "American Intellence". | |
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Posted: 2/23/2005 12:08:03 PM |
Lets all thank God for "American Intellence".
I'm beginning to think that really is an oxymoron. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2005 2:45:14 PM | I think history will certainly show what a disaster these past few years have been. Truman was not popular but revisionist historians have shown he did a good job under the circumstances.
We certainly seemed a lot better off economically with Clinton with the surplus regardless of his personal behavior.
Jimmy Carter was portrayed as being weak but he was a compassionate man who still continues to help his fellow man thru his charitable efforts. (Low Income Housing)
I remember many stoutly devoted Republicans slowly realizing that the Vietnam war was hopeless and that Nixon had some pyschological problems with power.
I am happy to read that even Republicans vow to not support Bush's Budget Proposal for this year.
Bush will be judged by history. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 7:32:44 PM | The REAL State of the Union Address:
http://www.freedomfiles.org/movies/bush-union.wmv | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 4:38:38 PM | | d*mn right. I'm probably gonna rule your city when Bush enslaves all you free-thinkers. I will run it into the ground because we rule with force, not intelligence. Please, conserve your oil more, we want as much of it as we can get. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 4:51:28 PM | | You got that right no intellegence.... | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 4:52:58 PM | | d*mn right! We don't even need intelligence to beat the democrats! HAHAHA!!! | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 4:58:06 PM | | Will you won't rule me tough guy... | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 4:59:26 PM | | We already do. Don't forget to pay your taxes this year. I'm gonna buy a yacht with my tax breaks. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:01:26 PM | | I bet your looking in a mirror and squirting all over your self aren't ya...well at least you get laid somehow... | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:04:39 PM | That's it. I'm gonna have to talk to The Leader about you.
Warm up the HAARP, boys! | |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:09:17 PM | Another neocon cattle prod experience..... | |
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OK,All Bullsh!t aside,If Bush is such a great guy,Then why do 78% of NYC resident's want 911 reopened and Bushco indited for mass murder,treason and high crime's against humanity???
