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Posted: 2/20/2005 7:40:29 AM | | Thanks Sidhe! Later tonite I'm going to change the pic to one of my hero, La Pasionaria, Dolores Ibarruri. :) | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 8:47:57 AM | | This tripling of depression is an example of how you can lie with statistics. In 1970 you pretty much had to attempt suicide to be diagnosed depressed. As the diagnostic rules relaxed more people - men and women- fell under the category. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/20/2005 8:51:18 AM | | How can I lie with statistics to make it look like I am getting laid more often? | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 8:54:38 AM | How about something like "Koople gets laid 99% more than all the men on POF"
You know, so it seems like you mean all the guys combined but you don't really
come out and say it that way. So its not really a lie....
Wait, come to think of it thats probably not much of a helpful comparison..... 
(Sorry. Had to go there.) | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 9:53:55 AM | | Sidhe, NO! ahahaha! I do NOT have a picture of La Pasionaria's butt! | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 10:03:16 AM |
the world continuing to become a sh!ttier place. you also seemed to be saying that women were happier when fewer people were getting divorced.
Sentence 1, agreed. Sentance 2, false. I never said that. I pointed to facts, but never stated an opinion.
Do you know that the rates for suicide among men are always sky-high, while those of women are not? Perhaps you need to take depression into context with suicide.
True. Over twice as many women "attempt" suicide than men. The only difference is the men get it right and finish the job the first time. It's been suggested "attention" are reasons their counterparts fail at their attempts. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 10:16:17 AM |
In 1970 you pretty much had to attempt suicide to be diagnosed depressed. As the diagnostic rules relaxed more people - men and women- fell under the category.
True, the ever expanding definitions of things like depression, rape, SH, and abuse make us all potential perpetrators - victims. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 10:23:16 AM | ^^^ I feel personally attacked by your sweeping
generalizations concerning women. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 12:06:29 PM | Actually he's right.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm
Males:
-Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003)
-Males are four times more likely to die from suicide than females (CDC 2004)
Females:
-Women report attempting suicide during their lifetime about three times as often as men (Krug et al. 2002).
Males are FOUR TIMES more likely to die from suicide than females. Exactly what "FRIENDS" said earlier.
I did a report for a psychology course I took on Suicide, Depression and BiPolar. My findings showed that the women that had attempted suicide did it for attention. To get their boyfriends to love them more, to get their husbands to help out more, etc.
How many times have you heard a guy **** because his girlfriend is threatening to kill herself? How many times have you heard a girl **** because her boyfriend is threatening to kill himself?
He never said ALL women do it for attention, but a very very high percentage of them do. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 12:17:22 PM | Paperdoll, I disagree vehemently that women attempt to take their life for attention. If that were the case, women would automatically call someone upon having swallowed pills, or would dial someone on the phone just prior to putting a bullet in their head.
However, if what you're trying to say is that men are FAR better at killing others, and also killing themselves, that is true. Women simply aren't too good at killing others or themselves, are they?
To say that anyone obliterates their life for fun and games, is incredibly irresponsible on your part. No one kills themselves for the same reason that they might have breast implants put in. Ridiculous and absurd idea.
Once again, sexist ideas surface. Now it is the one about the woman killing herself to get people to notice her. F*cked up sexist ideas. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 1:13:21 PM | 1- While women usually don't call someone right away it doesnt mean they didn't attempt it for attention. If I were so inclined to tell you a story I would, but it has no reason here. If you wish to e-mail me, you are more than welcome to.
2 - I never once said men were "far better at killing others and also killing themselves" do not put words into my mouth.
3 - I also never said "that anyone obliterates their life for fun and games", again don't put words into my mouth.
To me, you are appearing more and more like a militant "feminazi", as in the small percentage of extremists I happen to not like. I am sorry you will die alone because everything said with the word "woman" in the sentence gets your panties in a bunch because it must automatically be an attack about women. Can't you just face the facts and accept the statistics? Must everything be a fight?
I am only sexist against women and men like you. I am done with this thread, I'm getting ill reading the bullsh*tthat people are using in attempts to humiliate and insult others with valuable oppinions. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 1:19:32 PM | Paper doll is a woman - does that make her sexist against women?
On a relevant note, I had a manic depressive girlfriend (15 years ago) who put 2 razor blade cuts in her wrists shortly after I broke up with her.
She was indeed gorgeous, and alleged she was never dumped before.
After mandatory therapy, she stated her female psychiatrist told her it was no big deal, and the majority of girls do it for attention.
Arguing otherwise is arguing against proven clinical diagnosis throughout the world pertaining to this issue. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 1:25:27 PM | FRIENDS, why couldn't a woman be sexist against her own gender? Look at Clarence Thomas and his attitude against his own people. There are people that hate their own and will attack their own. Why? Myriad reasons.
I think it's an illogical conclusion to arrive at, that females attempt suicide for the same reason they wear stiletto heels and a thong. Really stupid and illogical concept. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 1:44:53 PM | Well, I don't see others calling your concepts “stupid,” myself included. They are your opinions, however illogical or unfounded others may find them. If you are in disagreement, I’m going to point out it’s mandatory to respect the individual by avoiding personal attacks. Think you can handle that?
Regarding the Science in question:
An example to disbelieve this issue is similar to arguing the world is flat - despite the evidence.
We believe it because current science has extensively studied this and backed these theories with overwhelming worldwide evidence, testimonials of hundreds of thousands of patients, thousands of scientists, and doctors.
It is unlikely millions of people are all lying just to disagree with you. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 2:37:30 PM | FRIENDS, who are these millions of people who are "disagreeing?"
As I said already, it's irresponsible, absurd and illlogical to think that women who are trying to take their life or who have committed suicide are trying or have done so for the purpose of getting the attention of others. A female's ineptness at killing, whether others or herself, does not constitute an attention-getting device.
One could likewise say that a male's success at taking his own life is an attention-getting device, as he is carrying it out so well, so as to get everyone to notice.
Absurd. Ridiculous. Illogical. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:30:59 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:31:11 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:31:16 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:31:24 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:31:33 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:31:39 PM | I am a FEMINIST!
People have these pre-conceieved notions that all feminists are these man hating, hairy, lesbians. This is a stereo-type. It takes a village my friends, all walks of life with different backgrounds and sexualities can comprise of a group.
Women make 76.5 cents for every dollar a man gets for the same job
Women are penalized at the workplace when they are pregnant
Women comprise of a small fraction of the government
And I could go on and on, one of the most ridiculous things I stumbled upon in an article dealt with certain professions that are dominated by women, with more females holding PhD's in their prospective area than their male counterparts, and YET all the head and top positions were held by men???
My point is these are not fair playing feilds, women should not have to strive to be an exception to the rules, they should have a fair crack at things. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2005 3:33:40 PM | | WOOOPS, sorry, I did not mean to flood the page! | |
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