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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/8/2009 10:49:58 PM | xeno07,
Only a handful of those people were actually ever leaders in the mainstream feminist movement.
And I could easily find plenty of quotes from men, including well-known famous men, about hating women or doing bad things to women.
You cannot handpick certain kinds of quotes to provide an accurate picture of a political movement... That's lazy intellectualism. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/8/2009 11:50:13 PM | xeno07,
What's holding you back?
Because I know you didn't find those quotes on your own -you ripped them off a list somewhere.
But heck, you want some good ones that are foundational to our culture, start with the /Bible/. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/9/2009 6:03:48 AM | SO, NOT ONLY ARE YOU A SEXIST, BUT YOU ARE ALSO DISCRIMINATING AGAINST MY OPINIONS BECAUSE I'M YOUNG? I "PULLED" THIS OFF THE NET, SOURCES FOLLOW.
This is a global comparison, so it's not "accurate" for the US, but I've figured out one thing about discrimination: unless it directly effects you, you can't understand it. No one can create that ball of fury in your belly faster than someone who's insulted you, your family, or your culture/race/sex...
? Women represent 60 per cent of the world's 550 million working poor who are unable to lift themselves above the $1 per day threshold.
? Women's share of managerial positions in some 60 countries ranges between 20 and 40 per cent.
? An average woman who works full time will earn over $400,000 less than the average man over her working life.
source: g e o c i t i e s . c o m : Global Gender Inequality
UMMMM... let me think here. Maybe it's because we don't have the "right" skills (aka upper-body strength). But, we do earn less over a lifetime, not to mention the fact that we still do three times as much child rearing/housework as a man. I am not a "feminists", but I do realize that as a woman I'm going to have to work twice as hard to be taken seriously (especially in the man-controlled genre I plan on entering aka politics).
WE ARE THE UNNOTICED MINORITY, FUNNY THING IS, THERE'S MORE OF US. WE'RE JUST TOO DAMN BUSY RAISING BABIES TO RAISE CANE ABOUT IT. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/9/2009 11:23:28 AM | Not only are only a handful of the quotes by actual leaders in the feminist movement, the quotes encompass all of the different branches of feminism. Feminism, in and of itself, is the belief that women have equal political, social, sexual, intellectual and economic rights as men do. Most men, while not calling themselves feminist, feel the same way.
xeno07 lumps all the ideologies of feminism into one group--from the radicals to the liberals. He is either ignorant to the actual workings of feminism or intentionally misleading. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2009 5:28:40 PM | | I'm pro-life, Palin was not prepared for that role, she probably just "bought" the chance 'cuz McCain was running low on funds. Women get****d around more at auto shops, plumber/other construction stuff, etc... guys take advantage of the fact that we might not know that much about it. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/9/2009 5:54:21 PM | Is that part of victimhood doctrine from Women Studies?
Because equality doesn't means preferencial treatment but, to be treated like everyone else. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/9/2009 6:35:50 PM | Well... whatever you want to call it. Everytime I take my damn car in the gas mileage goes down. I suppose the fact that my uncle's footing the bill via American Express has something to do with it. I'm having to call my ex in to get it in shape. I guess there's good and bad mechanics everywhere...
Men will never understand what women go through. We have to choose between family/career choices, and keep a "ladylike" attitude about it all. Society has trained you all to be the bread winner; no guilt trips for "not being there" for your child. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/9/2009 7:31:18 PM | Sometimes I believe that men and women don't understand each other anymore.
After 40 yrs of brainwashing campaing to perpetuate animosity is time to acknowledge the programming is working.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self evident.
Some people are still in denial.
Perhaps, in another 40 yrs, once the real problem are understood we can stop blaming each other and find where the fault really is.
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 2/10/2009 5:27:44 AM | | No feminism isn't sexism lol. The goal of feminism is what I strive to achieve. I am a feminist, I believe that women should have EQUAL rights with men. I do not understand how some women confuse EQUAL with SUPERIOR rights to men. Therefore, in a child custody case, I do not want to be awarded custody of my children just because I am a woman, now that is sexism. There is a difference between feminism and feminazism. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/24/2009 8:48:23 PM | I don't think feminism is sexism, not in the least bit. They've been fighting for equal rights for how many years now and it doesnt look like much has progressed over the last 20 yrs. or so.
Personally speaking, I think their just fighting a losing battle..but what do I care.. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/24/2009 8:56:34 PM | Like in their personal relationships where men are expected to pay for everything by being ckers...er...um..."gentlemen."
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Hmm if I didn't know any better, that sounds like a typical goldigger mentality to me..lol | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/24/2009 9:09:00 PM |
I don't think feminism is sexism, not in the least bit.
You should look up on what Christina Hoff Sommers says about feminism.
Also, have you ever stepped in a forum based on feminism? Try to make an opposing opinion about some thing they say and wait for the sexist abuse fired at you. This has happened in every single feminist forum I have been in.
That being said, not all feminist are feminuts. There are level minded ones out there. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 12:07:01 AM | | ^^^Oh yeah, I stepped in a few of those forums myself. Once you post an opposing opinion, thats the first thing they'll call you...a sexist, then next would be the all time fav for some....women hater,lol. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 12:25:22 AM | Not only that but yes, most are shameless hypocrites how they think they can have any opinion or opposing opinion all they want and that doesn’t mean they are sexist but when a man does, he is.
Believing that you can have double standards makes anyone sexist
The opinions that feminist make are based on "my way or the highway" (you are sexist and wrong if you don't agree). But if a group of men or a man had that same mentality, it would be classified as sexism and chauvinism. Or men acting like cavemen | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 1:25:49 AM | The vast majority of hetreosexual feminists are with partners
They could't achiev that without it
In Essence, to to quote a legacy feminist magazine "Spare Rib", 'Fighting for Womens Rights doens't mena Fighting for Women Domination, it just mena Fighting for the Human Right of Respect'
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 2:26:22 AM | The opinions that feminist make are based on "my way or the highway" (you are sexist and wrong if you don't agree). But if a group of men or a man had that same mentality, it would be classified as sexism and chauvinism. Or men acting like cavemen
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The "its my way or the highway" mentality is the typical norm for most of them. Regardless of what we do, they'll always blame us for everything. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 2:47:05 AM | Is feminism sexism?
I guess. Especially when it's targeted.
Is a roundhouse kick to the face painful?
I suppose. Especially when it connects. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 7:46:58 AM | | Feminism is man hatred pure and simple. At the very root is resentment toward men because of the inherent advantages men have over women. It's no different from socialism or communism which plays on popular resentment toward the achiever/wealthy class. Notice that feminism and communism always go hand in hand and many notable feminists were self avowed communists who wanted to do away with the capitalist society. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 8:08:46 AM |
Well, we still get paid an average of 40% less just for having a vagina
That's because whichever way you look at it, penises do more work and are more productive than vaginas. Equal pay only for equal work. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 11:22:03 AM | Guys taking about feminism who have never read a book about it or taken a class in women's studies are akin to the primitive who upon looking at the horizon, claims the world is flat.
There is a ton more to it than that.
Comparing the Nazis to feminists is about as absurd as it gets. When has a feminist ever rounded up men into concentration camps and gassed millions? Right. What have the feminists done? They've gotten women the vote, into the workforce, more equal raises, more childcare, a better criminal justice system.
The results speak for themselves.
As for the relationship between men and woman... far more damage has been done by the 'sexual revolution' than anything else. Thankyouverymuch. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 11:41:54 AM | Comparing the Nazis to feminists is about as absurd as it gets.
Not at all. The word feminazi is reserved only for militant feminists to whom abortion is a sacred act that must be performed as widely and as frequently as possible. To them it does not matter if a woman is strong, successful and independent -- if she is pro Life. Being pro abortion is the ultimate test to being such a feminist.
Look at Sarah Palin. She should have been their ideal woman. Strong, independent, tough, and an achiever who came from a modest background and nearly ended up a hair's width from the most powerful position in the world. But they sought to destroy her. Why ? Because she didn't pass the litmus test of aborting her own ' Downer', or supporting Feminazi causes in general. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 11:42:07 AM |
Guys taking about feminism who have never read a book about it or taken a class in women's studies are akin to the primitive who upon looking at the horizon, claims the world is flat.
You don't have to take a class in something to learn about it. When I was an undergrad, I learned far more outside the classroom than I did inside of it.
There is a ton more to it than that.
I know there's more to it than that, but on the other side of the coin, there are a lot of people who like to pretend that the crazy radicals don't exist or aren't important. The problem is that they not only exist but are the most vocal, and therefore give the more moderate, reasonable feminists a very bad name.
And even when I do hear from the more moderate feminists, I really don't hear them speak out much against the true man-haters who are tarnishing the name of feminism. I don't hear them questioning the oft-repeated statistics such as the "wage gap" mentioned earlier in the thread.
What have the feminists done? They've gotten women the vote, into the workforce, more equal raises, more childcare, a better criminal justice system.
You're being rather one-sided, however. I don't deny feminists have done all these things, but they have also done a lot of harm as well. We may have a better criminal justice system, but we still have a blatantly one-sided family justice system. We may have more women in the workforce, but we also have more frivolous sexual harassment lawsuits.
Frankly, it seems to me that men these days are more and more being made to apologize just for being men.
The results speak for themselves.
Only when you look at all of them and not just the ones that suit you.
As for the relationship between men and woman... far more damage has been done by the 'sexual revolution' than anything else.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there. | |
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| Is feminism sexism?
Posted: 10/25/2009 12:15:30 PM |
Comparing the Nazis to feminists is about as absurd as it gets.
Nice try.
It may seem exaggeratedly polemical to compare feminists with Nazis. The reason for doing so is to point out the intolerance of many feminists, and the way they have brainwashed and tried to bully and browbeat people into being unable to contemplate a non-feminist view on many issues. In short, feminism is a one-party system of gender politics which allows no dissent before the name-calling and accusations commence.
I won't mention all of the similarities between feminazis and Nazis, but one that is worth mentioning, however, is blood guilt. Just as the Nazis thought that any Jew was guilty just because he/she was a Jew, it would be difficult to deny there's a prevalent sentiment within feminism that all men are guilty, or at least very suspect, of something on account of their being men, that there is something inherently bad about men.
Another similarity is that the Nazis thought that certain categories of people (homosexuals and the physically and intellectually handicapped) were unworthy of life. Most feminists believe that all unborn children who are unwanted by their mothers are unworthy of life.
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