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Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 26

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 9:49:36 AM
when one has to jump on the differences like 2cheeky did, I sense resentment. I say that attitude earns him the name Mascunazi.... amen, sister! his lame comments about 911 really p!ssed me off. we should learn to celebrate our differences, without putting each other down. there are a lot more women in police, fire, and ems than there used to be, and we hold our own. if some of us have to work out more to do the heavy stuff, so be it. we accept that, because most of us hate the thought of being a burden on our partners. i know i do, and i work my @ss off. i'm five-foot-two, 140 lbs, and have never had a male partner accuse me of not keeping up. it's endlessly annoying when you have a female partner and you show up at some guy's house only to have him say, "they couldn't send a man?" this happens way too often, and they were always shocked when we did our job well, and DIDN'T have to call fire for a lift-assist. fire/ems is a dangerous profession, not only do we accept that, some of us really get off on it.(guilty-adrenaline junkie here) people call us "professional heroes", and there's not any of us, man or woman, who would refuse to answer the call, which is why so many of those(men AND women) who died september 11th were first responders.

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 27

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 9:54:20 AM
Sid I have never met ya in person but I love reading your comments...you are my hero...man, that is one job I could not do...and I know it....

LaurenB

Joined: 12/5/2004
Msg: 28

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 9:54:25 AM
A lot of feminists have lost their way. they are really opposed to men and boys. I am not a feminist. I am just a gal trying to get by, find love, make it in the world, ect. Feminism has come to equal man-hating in recent times. btches give women a bad name just like *stards give men a bad name. I am glad that I am a decent gal and surround myself with decent folks. Most of my friends are male. I prefer it that way. Females are "funny" and not always in a good way.

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 29

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 9:57:56 AM
to the guy above, i feel bad for you. that really sux, but it's not the norm. i have never gotten any kind of help from my daughter's father, and i could really use it. i applaud your attempts to do right by your kids, and really wish more men felt that way.sigh i have a hard enough time getting my ex to call his daughter on her birthday. can you believe he forgets the date? always told him i wouldn't harass him for cash, as long as he did the daddy thing, but he really sux at it, so his @ss is about to find himself in court. it's really hard to have to tell a little girl, when she asks you why her daddy doesn't love her, that's it's not HER fault, he's just a sh!thead.

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 30

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 10:01:17 AM
Sid My ex was the same way - when he left me, he left the kids too....spent 21 yrs raising my kids - I would call him at thebeginning and beg him to come get the kids and he kept saying he did not have time...now he won't acknowledge the grandkids....his loss...

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 31

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 10:04:58 AM
Sid I have never met ya in person but I love reading your comments...you are my hero...man, that is one job I could not do...and I know it.... wow. thanks, squeak. i really enjoy reading your stuff too. i have always been one of those people who wanted to take care of the people around me, which got me into some REALLY bad relationships, with people who didn't deserve or appreciate the attention. i got into ems because i figured that it would be more productive, and emotionally satisfying, to channel my maternal instincts into something besides bad relationships. had thought about going back to school, and becoming an md, but the september 11th tragedy was what made me sure that ems is where i belong. i just wanted to be there sooo bad.

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 32

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 10:07:05 AM
...his loss. d@mn straight. sux that there are so many men like that, makes the good ones look bad.

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 33

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 10:10:23 AM
specially about the grandkids...everyone who has em knows they are perfect... Back to the thread tho Guys - you are loved and appreciated.....

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 34

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 10:37:43 AM
... as often as possible.

Joined: 1/21/2005
Msg: 35

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 4:56:43 PM
The women's movement has a side effect of casting men as the evil testosterone empire. Never mind that it takes two to tango, all is laid at the feet of the male. The men who are progressive, supportive, and all for equity still face the modern woman's premise that most men are stards and good ones are rare. That is a huge chip on the woman's shoulder. So when as a man you go out looking for romance, you see a flock of narrowed eyes glaring out from behind a row of shields and spears. Dating is not about romance and flirting, it is running the feminist gauntlet to prove you're the rare exception. In other words, it's no fun. If you do make it past the screening ordeal, there is something that is the opposite of the benefit of the doubt. It is the presumption of evil. The woman is on guard against the emergence of your true evil male soul, which she presumes is just below the surface trying to break through. In any conflict her suspicions are confirmed. And then when it goes bad she returns to her female companions to bemoan the lack of good men, and how she was deceived once again. When a relationship fails, it was because he wasn't a good man. If a relationship succeeds it is because he is a good man. Women are assumed to be good in both cases. It is comical to me seeing how 99% of the time, give or take a few bushels, the women's chorus sings their anti-male anthem, but then stops once in a while for a Hallmark moment to strike a loving pose. The overall message that comes across is that the woman doesn't like men, doesn't need one, and won't go two steps out of her way to make him happy. There is nothing inviting about an angry woman who dislikes most men. She says something like: "You're not an *hole like most men". And that is supposed to be a compliment. Holy Hottentots. Somehow I am supposed to understand that this is a time of adjustment while women gain equity. I can see that. It just doesn't change the fact that the general tone is antagonistic and hostile. It doesn't take more than a few hostile women to make the dance floor look like a boxing ring. Besides, men don't making sweeping generalizations, women do. I saw that other thread saying nice things about men and my eyes bugged out like a cartoon critter's. Here in the middle of the raging battle of the sexes is an olive branch. The irony is that however well intentioned it is, and it is, the fact that saying nice things about men is an exceptional thread kind of says how it is mostly otherwise. Romance has been a casualty of feminism, as has the general attitude towards men. Younger women reject the premise that men are evil, and replace it with the premise that men are simply stupid. It's like the heterosexual female population adopted lesbian attitudes about men, but still want to have them for sex and car repair. Yes, all of them, every last one and most of all YOU! OK, now who wants to play kissy face and tell me what a great guy I am? Was it something I said? I didn't mean it like that, you took it the wrong way. Hee hee hee. [This message does not reflect the opinions of its author, this site, or the country in which it was written. Any resemblance to persons living, real, or otherwise is unintentional. Void where prohibited by law. Do not use near sparks or open flame.]

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 36

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 5:30:14 PM
oldsole...i have no idea where you are meeting women but maybe you should stay out of womens prisons?

Joined: 1/21/2005
Msg: 37

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/24/2005 8:29:04 PM
huh?

pedicure

Joined: 10/29/2004
Msg: 38

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 12:20:15 AM
I don't think anyone here really knows what feminism or sexism is. Feminism is the concept that women should have the same rights that a man does. In America, they do. Some people would say that because expectations and stereotypes of women v. men are different, that we are not living in a feminist state. That is taking it wayyyy too far and is ridiculous. Sexism is dividing labor or roles among the sexes. The most common one is the woman who stays home, cooks, cleans and raises children while the man works and provides for the family. It was predominant because when a woman is pregnant and raising children she can't easily work heavy labor. So feminism and sexism are two different things. However feminism can overlap sexism if the woman isn't forced to be domicile.

pedicure

Joined: 10/29/2004
Msg: 39

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 12:26:30 AM
right on. Feminists and Nazis are polar opposites. Just look at how they discuss each other. I am a feminist. Ooooooooooo! Go ahead, burn me alive if you must. I vote, own property and earn my own money. I do not hate men or wish to be the dominant one in the relationship. However I won't give up my job or ability to make decisions just because someone tells me to.

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 40

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 6:31:55 AM
ditto, squeak. sounds like a guilty conscience to me. by the way, i happen to like men, in general. just can't stand the condescending attitude that comes with so many of them. a lot of it is unconscious, and a product of social conditioning, but it's no less annoying for that.

Joined: 1/21/2005
Msg: 41

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 6:35:27 AM
are you truly unaware that what you just wrote describes exactly what you just wrote?

LaurenB

Joined: 12/5/2004
Msg: 42

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 6:41:45 AM
When it comes to men, take the good with the bad. You can run into a really nasty guy who got this way because someone messed him up and now he hates everyone. You can also run into a charming and nice guy who sweeps you off your feet and you fall in love with him and want to be with him always. you wish you'd met him sooner. you cannot live without him. you'd die for him. I know I have. I love my sweetie. I love him so much it scares me sometimes. I cannot imagine living in a world without him. Oh, and to answer the post, I am liberal and not a feminist. I just dont like "isms". They scare people. l8tr.

Joined: 1/21/2005
Msg: 43

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 7:06:47 AM
unlike liberalism which attracts people today my irony sensor is coloring everything I read maybe I am due for an oil change or my spark plugs are fouled this is the punishment I get from the coffee gods for going decaf a feminist is a woman who explains as you change her tire that she is capable of doing it herself

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Joined: 1/10/2005
Msg: 44
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Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 2:29:50 PM
agree

Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 45

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 8:03:13 PM
Well a live one, nice to see, and thank you for educating me on an aspect that the media did not cover here. want to talk about 911? there were a LOT of female medics and firefighters who were killed that day, not just men, including the WOMAN who was new york's paramedic of the year that year In all the reports that I saw on 911 not one delt with women helping and giving with their lives. I am sorry not for my opinion, but for not being informed of that fact. ^^^you are cordially invited to bend over and kiss this "uppity" woman's @ss. kissin your butt might not be much of a punishment...However if my dad is in a building that is on fire I'm not sure that I would have the strength to carry him far. And I'm not weak just a realist. My dad is not light. I'm sorry you resent my comments, but you have that right.

Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 46

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 9:03:54 PM
In order to be "truly equal" the federal and state, and in some cases larger cities (dallas being one) a minority, be it woman, black, hispanic, pacific islander, eskimo, or indian can bid on a contract for goods and services for 5% higher that the lowest bid, and be awarded the contract. you know it is better that our system of back scratchers, masons and the like... most are thievs and are not held accountable but you and I we are to pay all our taxes or else...go figure. Equal rights, can it ever really be equal? I am not like every other person be it male or female. My work ethic will be slower than some and faster than others, So then our pay should be for work done, not the time it take to complete the task. Bell phone operators were all men in the begining but ole alex was ticked with the language the guys used while working and fired them all and hired mild manered women...because they were better for the job. Oh and wipe the coffee off your computer after unplugging... but you know that...lol Oh and my tax dollars buy golf balls with a PM's sig on it...wooohooo.

Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 47

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 9:28:09 PM
Takes both men and women to run this ol world.....we may have different skills but come on, not all women have one and all men another...attributes are distributed within the species...when one has to jump on the differences like 2cheeky did, I sense resentment. I say that attitude earns him the name Mascunazi.... No, it takes vision to rule the world, male or female or both. I jump to the diffence of education, their are many diffrences. One fem...(is that better?) even had the audasity to state that men have one less rib...cuz it says right here...lol. Intelligence for example is not shared equally, there is a higher number of really bright men as compared with women. There is a higher number of avrage to above average women as compared with men. So the average will mean women are slightly smarter...however few will be brilliant. So now inject fem ideas and force 50% gender non-bias into all roles and guess what? caos. but fems want to preserve areas that are traditionally female oriented...and that my friends is sexist. Oh and the resentment, yes I need to get it off my chest, thanks for helping. You explain it to my kids when they have the same problems k? Ignorance is bliss. And I think it would be Mascunazi of me to start using bad language but alas like smoking, I grew up some years ago...lol

Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 48

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 9:50:42 PM
During that time I paid an average of 500 a month. when the arrearage past 5000 they tried to throw me in jail. My point is, the feminist movement has a lot of nice goals. But, it has taken things too far in some areas. Sounds like another case of dependant wife not kid. Now did you know that a higher proportion of women don't pay child support? And they rarely get prison time for non-payment. (dead beat dads are a problem but there are more dead beat moms by %...chew on that.) I must admit there was a time when I was earning very little, and got into arrers. When I got a better job I called them to make payments and it took me two weeks of calling almost daily to get the forms...go figure. They apologized to me saying it is unusual for the dad to call us, we normally do the calling.

Joined: 12/18/2004
Msg: 49

Is feminism sexism? Posted: 1/25/2005 9:56:50 PM
A lot of feminists have lost their way. they are really opposed to men and boys. I am not a feminist...Females are "funny" and not always in a good way. wow honesty...rare...showing your age...lol but nice to read. When you have a family teach equality not feminism.