| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 8:52:05 PM | Gaze4u if there is "Feminism" as you state it is because women have come to the same point this man has when making this post. There was nothing left but to become strong independent women because men in general couldn't be relied on anymore.
FYI I have been to New York, L.A., and while in the Navy I traveled the world for 17 years working for Naval Intelligence. Women appreciate a gentlemanly gesture all around the world in most cases.
I know the real reason men look for women overseas. They are used to being treated like crap in other countries, and dealing with full blown drunks. American and European men may still treat thier women like crap, but not as bad in most cases as men in thier own country and men from other countrie are better providers as well! I know this as fact so don't try and change my mind. I have been told this by foriegn women more then once so there is no disputing it as fact.
I am done on this BS.
Be well all,
John | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 8:54:00 PM | More and more women are chosing not to marry. I hear their attitude is "why buy the pig when all you want is one sausage". It's the same as "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free".
It's easier and life is quieter when you are not in a relationship. It's a temendous amount of work to have a partner in your life.
If men only wanted a hole they'd all be homosexual. Men haven't eradicated us because we propagate the species. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 8:54:11 PM | Proteus -
Perhaps you should examine the fact that you are feeling so low about yourself that you are pre-meditating becomming a player! You're actually considering this and asking others to help you decide whether this is warranted. Can you not see this and take responsibility?
Your post screamed...What's wrong with me? Someone tell me that *I'm* the good guy...there is NOTHING wrong with me. It's those evil, vile women and to compensate for them not being interested in me, I'm considering hurting as many as I can to make myself feel better.
If you were a solid, balanced, happy, human you wouldn't need to be discussing this issue at all! You would be looking within, taking stock of your life and figuring out how you can change your life to make room for a good person. Right now...you are NOT worthy. Based especially on what you wrote in your first post...what sane, intelligent, together woman would even consider dating a man like you????
Women are just a 'hole that needs to be plugged' indeed! I can't believe that most of you just brushed this statement off!
I don't have enough time to respond to the man hell bent on a mail order bride...that's for another time. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 8:55:20 PM | i would have to say this is the best post in this string.......We are all so quick to blame others for our hurt and pain, these life trials are what make us the people we become. Acceptance of our own role in these trials is the only way to grow from them. The only person capable of playing you .......IS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Valentines Day To All !!!
The love you have for yourself will pour out onto others around you.....Go spread that disease instead | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:00:28 PM |
You attract what you are...I said these words to a friend 2 months ago after
his constant "why me "? rants......
You cannot go on doing the same old things and expect different results...
A very wise old friend of mine told me shortly before he passed on......
there are only 2 things you can do to change your predicament...
1) Solve it - do what needs to be done
2) Let it be - you cannot solve it because the problem is BIGGER than you at
the moment
When you blame external factors , you cease to have control over the
situation ..your mindset ,attitude and eventually actions follow suit.
i would have to say this is the best post in this string.......We are all so quick to blame others for our hurt and pain, these life trials are what make us the people we become. Acceptance of our own role in these trials is the only way to grow from them. The only person capable of playing you .......IS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Valentines Day To All !!!
The love you have for yourself will pour out onto others around you.....Go spread that disease instead | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:01:41 PM | ***she merely kept seeing them becouse they gave her a free meal and took her out for free entertainment, and gave her a nice ego boost for occasions such as today when she was showered in gift's
Men have done this for sex for...blah blah blah....
**I've gotten to the point that I can see what she is going to say to me before she says it. I have a mental checklist going on during the conversation, waiting to check off the subjects as they come up.
**I go into each situation with an open mind.
Open mind? One sentence disproves the other...sorry...you expect this, this is what you get.
I say, give up women...for a while anyway...concentrate on you.
Squeak | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:06:40 PM | Well by your check check check perhaps you should try a crack addict.
You make it sound bad to have a past and then learn and do better
for yourself as a human. You must think your all that eh, no past?
Get it bud, we all have a past and I'm sure you do too. You get
from people what you put in. If you have no love in you you can't expect to
recieve it. Guess what if you have mistrust that is what you are offering.
Your personality(traits within you) are what you project to others.
Sorry my vote and yes I get one. I would rather be on a path to
truth and honesty rather then mistrust and self pity. You make your choises.
I hope you see my point....people are people at what point do we as humans
get a fresh start from all the pain of life, when we choose. I get the feeling
you want a fresh start so why do you find it so hard to believe others want
the same. Reguardless of there painful past. Good luck in the pond.. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:06:44 PM |
proteazeus why don't you take the empass to the freeway and just have some fun already . are you ugly or something ?
Hell, I don't know, if I am ugly or not. Another one of those little things I can't trust a woman about. When were talking or dating in the beginning it's all "your so cute, your so handsome" then after it's all said and done it's "Your disgusting, ugly, I have know idea what I saw in you"
So how the hell should I know, it's a matter of opinion. I am not Brad Pitt niether am I Quasimoto.
BTW, was the "proteazeus" done purposefully?
are you ugly or something ?
"Something" would be more descriptive in this context. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:10:49 PM | Ok I found the ugly question to be very rude...and would have said so...but figured I'd get yelled at for pointing it out...HOWEVER....your attitude in half of these posts is ugly. Remember ugly on the outside is not as bad as ugly on the inside. You are very negative in your posts...do you intend to find the woman of your dreams with that attitude? Come on. If you were on a date with a woman...and you said half the stuff you have said here...I can see why they bolt.
I do not mean to be rude...but come on! You need to work on the negativity. At this point it seems a must for you. Sorry. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:11:45 PM |
I give up on women! I refer back to a saying my grandfather always said. If women didn't have a hole between their legs, man would have eradicated the species by now!
And that is the truth my friends!
It's easy to see the 'nut' didn't fall far from the tree. Quite the display of mental incapacity and dogmatism. That's all I need say regarding that person.
OT: Proteus - you've had lots of solid advice here, but clearly you're not at the point where you need take responsibility for yourself given the situation.
I'll say it again; you won't fix what you won't acknowledge. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:14:38 PM |
Proteus -
Perhaps you should examine the fact that you are feeling so low about yourself that you are pre-meditating becomming a player! You're actually considering this and asking others to help you decide whether this is warranted. Can you not see this and take responsibility?
Your post screamed...What's wrong with me? Someone tell me that *I'm* the good guy...there is NOTHING wrong with me. It's those evil, vile women and to compensate for them not being interested in me, I'm considering hurting as many as I can to make myself feel better.
If you were a solid, balanced, happy, human you wouldn't need to be discussing this issue at all! You would be looking within, taking stock of your life and figuring out how you can change your life to make room for a good person. Right now...you are NOT worthy. Based especially on what you wrote in your first post...what sane, intelligent, together woman would even consider dating a man like you????
Women are just a 'hole that needs to be plugged' indeed! I can't believe that most of you just brushed this statement off!
I don't have enough time to respond to the man hell bent on a mail order bride...that's for another time.
I do not feel down about myself. I merely feel that my expectations of women have been let down.
And with this realisation, I must make a decision, to remain honorable or to level the playing field. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:15:32 PM | "your so cute, your so handsome" then after it's all said and done it's "Your disgusting, ugly,
THIS is your answer. The women are responding to your physical self at first and then when they get to know you, you become ugly and disgusting to them.
I'll tell you what this means. You are ugly on the inside.
Not once in all of your posts have you acknowledged that someone might have a point or perhaps it might be a good idea to look within for the answers.
You will not take responsibility and you will never be happy. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:18:06 PM | I ask you then...what are your expectations of yourself?
What good person would refer to women the way you do? What good person who loves themself and is balanced would consider becomming a player the solution to his problems? | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:20:26 PM | | To be fair to Proteus, the title of this thread is not "I have no respect for women," it's "I'm losing my respect for women." I think the concept of the initial post was a request- for his own betterment- for us to prove these negative feelings wrong. When the statement of these feelings were responded to harshly with attacks on men that do negative things, Proteus found it difficult to not respond in a similar way. I don't feel the initial post was an attack on women though, it was a call for affirmation away from an uncomfortable cynicism. I did not sense he was comfortable with these cynicle feelings at all and I believe he even said he wasn't. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:21:01 PM |
Ok I found the ugly question to be very rude...and would have said so...but figured I'd get yelled at for pointing it out...HOWEVER....your attitude in half of these posts is ugly. Remember ugly on the outside is not as bad as ugly on the inside. You are very negative in your posts...do you intend to find the woman of your dreams with that attitude? Come on. If you were on a date with a woman...and you said half the stuff you have said here...I can see why they bolt.
I do not mean to be rude...but come on! You need to work on the negativity. At this point it seems a must for you. Sorry.
No, I do not bring this up on dates. And despite what others here might think, I do go into each one with optimism.
I am new to women let alone to dating, so I have these perceptions taught to me by my parents and grandparents about who and what a woman is. It's disheartening to find that those women don't exist. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:23:36 PM |
I give up on women! I refer back to a saying my grandfather always said. If women didn't have a hole between their legs, man would have eradicated the species by now!
And that is the truth my friends!
It's easy to see the 'nut' didn't fall far from the tree. Quite the display of mental incapacity and dogmatism. That's all I need say regarding that person.
OT: Proteus - you've had lots of solid advice here, but clearly you're not at the point where you need take responsibility for yourself given the situation.
I'll say it again; you won't fix what you won't acknowledge.
See, the misconception is, I was not asking for advice, at least not in the beginning.
I've spent over a decade focusing on myself and who I am, I am clear in that.
I was mostly venting, but yes, I am also working new information into my head, as I mentioned in the last post, I'm new to all this, even after a year of it. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:24:57 PM | You are 32 how are you new to women or dating? Just curious.
I am sure it's disheartening...as it is when any relationship fails...but the choice is yours if you want to do the all women suck routine or if you want to get back up on the horse. To me...this is just an opinion...it seems you still have some battle scars that need to heal. Once those have healed...you will feel better..and then be ready to go into a relationship with an open mind...and an open heart. Again just an opinion. And I don't mean to bash...I will not say what half the others on this thread did..because to me it is obvious..that you still have fresh wounds. And..hey we have all been there.
You are at a point where how you choose to deal with this will help form your future happiness. Good luck to you  | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:27:24 PM |
To be fair to Proteus, the title of this thread is not "I have no respect for women," it's "I'm losing my respect for women." I think the concept of the initial post was a request- for his own betterment- for us to prove these negative feelings wrong. When the statement of these feelings were responded to harshly with attacks on men that do negative things, Proteus found it difficult to not respond in a similar way. I don't feel the initial post was an attack on women though, it was a call for affirmation away from an uncomfortable cynicism. I did not sense he was comfortable with these cynicle feelings at all and I believe he even said he wasn't.
Geez, at least someone has some reading comprehension skills. | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:30:26 PM | Jesus H. Christ people. There was no relationship. I am making a commentary on my dating experiances.
Let's make it clear.
I HAVE NEVER HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN MY LIFE WITH A WOMAN (or man for that matter lol)
Comprenday? | |
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| I'm losing my faith and respect for women
Posted: 2/14/2006 9:33:03 PM | | Oh for Christs sake...then why did you ask the questions to begin with? Folks offered you advice re: your op...and you disputed all advice....some folks tried the nice method...to help...and now you do the I have never bla bla bla. Sorry dude...but I think we thought you were asking for help. Carry on. Damn. | |
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