| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/12/2009 4:59:15 AM | "I think it's a personal choice as to what we ride and how we ride it. while it does crack me up to see someone (you know who you are) who goes and buy's a harley and every peice of harley attire you can afford, then all of the sudden your a hells angel out to stick it to the man. And as far as the people complaining about loud pipes, you must not have ever ridden a bike then. because loud pipes save lives whether you think so or not. multiple times ive been riding and some jackass on his phone doesnt hear or see me and cut's right over onto me damn near killing me.
I'll keep my loud pipes, atleast that way you'll notice me... because i really get tired of punching people's mirror's off because they damn near run me off the road."
Uh...ever hear of a friggin' HORN? Funny thing, they invented this thing 80 years ago and installed them in cars so that in case somebody pulls over into your lane you can honk at them!!! You've got to be kidding me trying to justify that idiotic noise. You do realize that every single car on the road could make that noise but that's why they invented mufflers so the highway wouldn't sound like the Indianapolis 500. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/12/2009 5:43:35 AM | in case somebody pulls over into your lane you can honk at them!!! you're kidding. right? you must be. either that, or you have never had any highway/heavy traffic experience on a motorcycle. because until they install horns that sound something like a peterbilt on every motorcycle, tooting your itty-bitty little motorcycle horn at cars obliviously moving into your lane because drivers have all the situational awareness of your average slug is about as useful as waving a hankie at a charging bull. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/12/2009 6:42:18 AM |
Uh...ever hear of a friggin' HORN? Funny thing, they invented this thing 80 years ago and installed them in cars so that in case somebody pulls over into your lane you can honk at them!!! You've got to be kidding me trying to justify that idiotic noise. You do realize that every single car on the road could make that noise but that's why they invented mufflers so the highway wouldn't sound like the Indianapolis 500.
You can't be serious. This summer we had an experience with a semi driver. He was was well aware we were on the highway. He saw us as he merged on to the highway. After a few minutes behind the semi we started to pass. Suddenly he decided he needed to be in the left lane for no apparent reason since there was no one in front of him. We passed on the right instead. If he 'forgot' we were there then he should have heard us because our Harley is sooooo loud. If they don't hear the bike...do you seriously think they are going to hear the horn? | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/12/2009 10:00:29 AM | well those little horns don't do shit but make the bikes "street legal" and this past year claimed 2 of my very close friends because they were run off the road. give it one of the car drivers was drunk but the other was a middle age mom driving her kids home from school. i'll keep my loud pipes and you keep that bitter attitude because your girlfriend dumped you for a biker
Just because you traded in you ball's for a little compact carbon nuetral chick car, does NOT mean everybody's as nutless as you are. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/12/2009 11:11:45 PM |
...in case somebody pulls over into your lane you can honk at them!!! I was out hunting one time when I came upon a goose. I distinctly remember him honking at me right before I blew his brains out with my 12 ga. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 9:55:26 AM | | You can't tell me that a horn can't be installed on a motorcycle that makes as much noise or more than a car horn. If the horns aren't loud enough then that's something that HD needs to address or the rider themself. I'm sorry but there is no justification whatsoever for that amount of noise and I truly don't understand how it's legal but it shouldn't be. To me it just shows an extreme lack of courtesy to continuously blast that stupid racket out in public where people who don't want to listen to it have to. I don't see how this is any different than smoking in a restaurant and that's why it's outlawed. If you want to go ride your stupid ass bike out in the country where nobody has to listen to your god awful noise then go ahead...just don't do it around me. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 3:20:53 PM | By the time a situation warrants the use of a horn, it's usually too late for a motorcyclist, unlike those in a car. Sad but true, we have to wake people up in advance. Because there's no minor fender benders on a bike. The police in my city are very well aware of this, some ride Harleys on duty, more off duty, and they will only ticket non baffled pipes exactly for that reason. If a person doesn't care about these issues, then I would consider them to be a self absorbed queen who deserves to be annoyed by me. Maybe they should try dating a biker. A couple of weeks riding around on the back of a bike would change their attitude. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 4:08:17 PM | | 1fitguy...I don't think anybody could tell you anything. If you don't want to listen to that "stupid racket" buy some ear plugs. Just how does the sound of a Harley compare to smoking in a resaraunt? Let us all know where you are going to be and when so we don't disturb your little world. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 4:46:13 PM | How about women who ride Harley's....?
..............YUMMY............... | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 6:23:31 PM | I hate Harley's, they are noisy, polluting machines. And the whole bad boy thing is really over-rated. I don't get the attraction to jail-bait. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/13/2009 11:49:45 PM | ^^^ seriously ...you have nothing to be worried about.
For many years I rode a Ducati 900SL
pieces of crap!!! and I use that term loosely...I wouldn't be caught dead in the ditch on one ....and if I do it will be on a Harley..at least I go out in style and not looking like I hopped off a football I was humping for 3 hours.... | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 8:34:08 AM | "If a person doesn't care about these issues, then I would consider them to be a self absorbed queen who deserves to be annoyed by me. Maybe they should try dating a biker. A couple of weeks riding around on the back of a bike would change their attitude."
So I'm self absorbed because I don't want to hear your idiotic noise on your motorcycle? That's a good one. So if I came by your car and blew a foghorn in your ear you'd have no problem with that, huh? I'm sorry man but if you're that worried about driving out there on the roads then maybe you shouldn't be doing it. I lost 3 friends to motorcycle accidents in a 6 month period last year (one was my manager who had his girlfriend on the back and they both died) so I really don't see a bright future for you out there on a highway...it's just a matter of time. If motorcycle riders are really that insistent on the noise thing, install a loud horn and any time you're passing a car honk that sucker. I'd much rather have that than your stupid ass racket disturbing my peace and quiet. Oh and by the way I'm very familiar with bikes as I ride dirtbikes out in the country all the time...WHERE IT DOESN'T BOTHER PEOPLE!!! | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 9:59:45 AM |
For many years I rode a Ducati 900SL pieces of crap!!! and I use that term loosely...I wouldn't be caught dead in the ditch on one ....and if I do it will be on a Harley..at least I go out in style and not looking like I hopped off a football I was humping for 3 hours....
Ducati is so much better than Harley it's ridiculous. When is the last time The Motor Company had racing team, much less one that was competitive? HD lives on their image of years past while Ducati continues to add to theirs. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 2:54:13 PM |
Ducati is so much better than Harley it's ridiculous. When is the last time The Motor Company had racing team, much less one that was competitive? HD lives on their image of years past while Ducati continues to add to theirs.
That's because Harley Davidson was building motor cycles when Ducati wasn't even a figment of some one's imagination.What's your point.
Men riding Harley's boils down to consumer preference.....not how fast I want to take a corner. I'd like to get there alive. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 3:05:16 PM |
That's because Harley Davidson was building motor cycles when Ducati wasn't even a figment of some one's imagination.What's your point.
My point was that Ducati is far from "crap". The only negatives I can come up with for Ducati is that their bikes are expensive and very fiddly. However, Harley has the same problems without the performance or fit and finish of any Ducati while costing the same or more.
[quality]I'd like to get there alive.
The why do Harley riders, who talk so much about "loud pipes saving lives", are the least likely to wear any sort of protective gear, or substandard gear that exists only for image? | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 3:38:07 PM | I understand your points....but
The only good thing that came out of Italy were recipes for spicy meatballs , Ferrari's , and Luciano Pavarotti (all 3 of which I enjoy)
The why do Harley riders, who talk so much about "loud pipes saving lives", are the least likely to wear any sort of protective gear, or substandard gear that exists only for image?
No need for concern I'm sure laws vary and are enforced, Men who ride concerning protective gear are less likely to dump it in a corner at high speed.
It would be interesting for one to look up crash ratio's do to negligence and diver ratio concerning cars to bike's???
I mean come on look at the street racer and some of the stupid stunts they pull with FULL protective gear?? racing etc..... | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 5:01:30 PM |
No need for concern I'm sure laws vary and are enforced, Men who ride concerning protective gear are less likely to dump it in a corner at high speed.
It would be interesting for one to look up crash ratio's do to negligence and diver ratio concerning cars to bike's???
I mean come on look at the street racer and some of the stupid stunts they pull with FULL protective gear?? racing etc.....
I'm not saying you can't be stupid while wearing full gear, but it seems awfully inconsistent to justify loud pipes because of safety and then choose not to wear any safety gear. I mean, if saving lives was so important, why not wear the gear required to save lives as well? Sure, CE approved armor isn't a law in any state that I'm aware of, and Snell/DOT helmets aren't required in some, but if you truly are interested in safety why would you choose loud pipes and no safety gear? The only logical answer to me is that a person that would do that is interested in image, and not safety. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 5:03:20 PM |
I lost 3 friends to motorcycle accidents in a 6 month period last year.... so I really don't see a bright future for you out there on a highway...it's just a matter of time Ok, now you are making more sense to me than you ever did. Your loss has naturally caused you grief, and some of that has turned to anger. You will not blame your friends, you will not blame car drivers, so you simply blame the system that allows anyone to ride a motorcycle on the road. You think that anyone who rides will die riding sooner or later. So you don't want anyone riding on the roads. Thats fine. But try to see it for what it is. It is you trying to get through the grieving process. So, my point is, is that you are perhaps not in the best emotional state right now to argue the issue. If 6 of your friends had died in car accidents in a 6 month period last year, perhaps you might argue that sooner or later every driver will be in a fatal accident and that nobody should be on the roads in cars. And speaking of dirtbikes, I knew a guy whose kid brother was riding a dirtbike and the thing landed on his kid brother and squished his head a bit and he was left in a permanent comatose state. I'm not so sure the offroad dirtbike stats for fatalities are a whole lot better than the onroad stats.
The only logical answer to me is that a person that would do that is interested in image, and not safety I find it ridiculous for a person to imply that image and safety are necessarily mutually exclusive goals. In the case of loud pipes, they can coexist perfectly. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 6:17:41 PM |
I find it ridiculous for a person to imply that image and safety are necessarily mutually exclusive goals. In the case of loud pipes, they can coexist perfectly.
Not if, at the same time, the said person with loud pipes isn't wearing any safety gear. Loud pipes won't help you if you hit a oil slick in a corner and go down, or if you have to avoid something and high-side. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 7:57:46 PM | LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!!!!! So I'll keep my 2 into 1 4 inch exhaust with the baffles removed. You can complain but I won't hear you. I like to drown out the imports with the bumble bee exhaust & stereos that rattle their own windows & decklids. Harley Davidson has had an active racing program since it's birth in 1903. They are the front runner in dirt track racing & NHRA drag racing. And have been so for years. Besides Ducati running road racing what do they do??? And I'd really like to pull up beside the ducati on my V-rod next to the guy who keeps b!tching about pipes. Bikes are cool because people think they are. But they are also economical & ALOT less polluting than the cars & trucks on the highway. Maybe you people should get your facts straight before you rant about something you're obviously clueless to. Now I know why I hang out with bikers. Not outlaws mind you. Just normal people who ride to live & live to ride. Lastly, I have just as much right to ride as you do to whine about it. Bottom line is people don't pay attention. Because it's a smaller vehicle you think you can bully us. But when we ride in packs you get the hell out of the way don't ya??? | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/14/2009 11:36:32 PM |
Not if, at the same time, the said person with loud pipes isn't wearing any safety gear I also find it ridiculous for a person to resort to the use of the bullsh!t tactic of bringing in a completely unrelated issue in an attempt to salvage his flawed implication that in the case of loud pipes, image and safety cannot coexist perfectly. Again, loud pipes are a preventative safety measure, so that you hopefully don't get into a bad situation in the first place. Anyone but a fool can see that is the same truth, whether the biker with loud pipes is riding in his speedos or a full suit of armour. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/18/2009 11:07:53 PM | I like the noise,,and my bike ,,which is a Honda,, makes it!!! Why,,, so you hear me !! then i am able to enjoy my ride,, i agree,, sleep at home and learn to share the road..  | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/19/2009 8:41:25 AM | " Am I wrong to want that Bad Boy? (Of course he has to have a good boy in there somewhere too.) "
I've been told that most Harley Owners are fairly normal and are often accountants, doctors and lawyers. Two of my friends have Harleys (a third has an Indian Motorcyle) and they remind me more of the guys from Wild Hogs, than the Wild One.
Some want Porsches, others Harley's for their mid-life crisis. So are you referring to Harley owners or Hell's Angels Bikers. | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/19/2009 3:45:47 PM | | Lighten up a little bit, dude. There's Harley and Victorys, and, if you are very lucky, an Indian, and Kawasakis, and Hondas, and Yamaha's, and BMWs, and a half dozen more. Pick your ride and enjoy it. A little friendly argument is expected, but who cares how fast I get to the next stop on a poker run?! Enjoy! | |
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| Men who ride Harleys Posted: 1/19/2009 4:00:10 PM | | I ride a 1200 sportster. The men I come across are not bad boys but boys that can be bad. There is a difference, look for that in a man and you will have fun. You don't want the bad boys that can't be good. There might have been a good guy in there in the past but apples do get rotten. | |
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