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 atrkyhntr™

Joined: 12/20/2005
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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:35:01 AM

I wish he never filed for divorce, he really had no reason to do so

aww look at it as his loss not yours and not your sons either...
I know the heartbreak you talk about when thinking of the family life your child will lose...
I watched my 5 yr old daughter playing with dolls talking about mommy and daddy, like interacting, and I wondered where she got that from having not lived in the situation and I wondered how much she is missing because we divorced and I know she wishes we were not... Our children are fine and we do allot of stuff and take allot of photos when we do something so we have our own memories... Maybe someday we'll marry someone and they can have their family but it does not take a mom and dad to make a family it only takes us and them......
You don't need your X breaking you done to something you are not... He is the loser not you and your far better off without him... Myself I have tossed me into my kids life and have not even dated since my divorce + seperation was over 4 years ago... I need my kids more then someone else in my life still.... maybe that will change maybe not LOL
 YEAIDID

Joined: 1/24/2006
Msg: 77
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Posted: 3/8/2006 9:11:34 AM
Heard enough about money already.

If a PARENT does not have/make TIME to properly raise/teach/guide the kid...then the CUSTODY arrangement should change if applicable. Like in my case....PRIMARY custody here I come baby! Dont want to 'take' my kid from his mother like it may seem. the petition reads "UNTIL SHE FINISHES SCHOOL". Career students need a push sometimes.
 PyxieBell

Joined: 3/1/2006
Msg: 78
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Posted: 3/8/2006 9:36:06 AM
Hi, I am new here.. I was just reading everyone's postings because my best friend just recently went through this. She is 22, had a 4 month old Son. He ex and her lived in a different state at the time, cause he was in the military. She had another child from a previous relationship, and that child was molested. The dept of Children services suspected it was her husband that molested her other child. They were ivestigating it, and she left him and moved back here to our home state while the investigation was in process. He came back here to Ohio on leave, and was visiting his Mother and she didn't know he was even home. So she lets her Son go to visit her soon to be Ex mother in law, and they never gave the little boy back. They went and lied their butts off to get a temp custody order. I KNOW for a fact what type of mother she was. She never did drugs or drank, took her children to sunday school, took great care of her kids, they were well nourished, the house was always clean and well cared for, she was a very loving mother. He had ties in the court system. His mother and sister worked in the system, his father was the retired cheif of police, and the Judge was a personal family friend. She had NO hope walking into that court room. So it's not always true that only bad mom's have their kids taken away. There was nothing but lies that they could use to make her look like a bad mother! The system works in favor of either who has the most money, or who has the bigger name and ties into the system.. at least thats how it is here!
 Bibstar

Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 79
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Posted: 3/8/2006 11:41:02 AM
[/The system works in favor of either who has the most money, or who has the bigger name and ties into the system.. at least thats how it is here]

I dont quite agree with that, but than again I only have my case to compare to. My ex makes a lot more money than I do, plus he kept the house that we lived in. I moved to a smaller apartment. And I am not a US citizen. I still got primary custody, so I dont beleive that whoever has the most money always gets custody.
 atrkyhntr™

Joined: 12/20/2005
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Posted: 3/8/2006 12:14:58 PM
$$$ don't mean chit...
My income was 4 X what the X makes plus she already had 6 other kids to support and they still gave our 3 to her... Figure that BS out... Now mine live in poverety when with me they would not...
I am going to fight for them again since there has been no impovement in their living conditions and other reasons...
But $$$ don't mean squat...

Hey bibstar too bad your X is a jerk you seem like a decent, caring and attractive woman to me... I don't think you'll be on your own for long...
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
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Posted: 3/8/2006 12:21:39 PM
At, you sound very bitter. Whats bs about it? Just because the kids dont live with you doesnt mean they live in poverty. Im assuming you help provide financially for them as well as having partial custody/visitation? Id assume you are paying child support as well? Which is what it exactly is..supporting the child......
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 1:23:20 PM

At, you sound very bitter. Whats bs about it? Just because the kids dont live with you doesnt mean they live in poverty. Im assuming you help provide financially for them as well as having partial custody/visitation? Id assume you are paying child support as well? Which is what it exactly is..supporting the child......


I think you better go back and read this whole thread because that would be the only reason you posted your assumption (not up to date on me or mine)... I will not repeat myself for those too lazy to become thread wise

Have a nice day
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
Msg: 83
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Posted: 3/8/2006 1:57:19 PM
Yup, very bitter. I rest my case.
No reason to be pissy to me. I was stating my opinion BASED on your last post. Its obvious you cant handle critism, as the only thing you can do is slam another for putting their opinion out there and covering with comments such as "lazy".
Eh...good luck to you muh darlin and no, you, have a blessed fun filled bright sunshiney day!
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 2:07:47 PM
You need to know the whole story not ASSUME which you know what that does, don't you?
When you do not allow yourself to know everything that goes into an equation then you only make yourself look foolish...
I rest my case...
YOU sound like a gold digger who has kids just for the cash and bennies they bring you.... hmmnmnmn yea that sounds allot like you after reading your last couple post
 YEAIDID

Joined: 1/24/2006
Msg: 85
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Posted: 3/8/2006 2:38:08 PM
Bad Riverbabe! Bad bad bad
ROFLMAO @ riverbabe being a gold digger!!!!!
I still love ya and know that its ok! Gold diggers need love too
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
Msg: 86
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Posted: 3/8/2006 4:21:36 PM
Now I aint sayin she a gold digger (Well I'm in Need)
But she aint messin wit no broke broke(can you feel me ma)
Now I aint sayin she a gold digger (When I'm in Need)
but she aint messin wit no broke broke(i gotta WEED)
get down girl go head get down (all yall need)
get down girl go head get down (all yall need)
get down girl go head get down (all yall need)
get down girl go head

HAHA!
Yup! Thats me! Im not getting any child support and Ima golddigga!!
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
Msg: 87
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Posted: 3/8/2006 4:27:43 PM
You need to know the whole story not ASSUME which you know what that does, don't you?


Actually, no I dont. I will assume what I choose based on what you put out on a public forum.


YOU sound like a gold digger who has kids just for the cash


Awww! How sweet! I see I got you upset and now you are ASSUMMING as well. Hmm, arent you "scolding" me for doing EXACTLY what you just posted right here?
BTW, go back and READ my profile, and you will see I have one child. Maybe you should do exactly what you want me to do: READ AND KNOW THE FACTS before you post. I dont recieve any outside payments nor do I recieve child support, so that heavy assumption was a big waste of piss breath for ya.

Just for shits and giggles, what, in my post to you, makes you think Im a golddigger? Because I called you out, pissed you off, and put you in your place? I questioned your ignorant comment?

You need to relax babe. Its ok if you want to call me a golddigger because you are pissy and acting ****y. Im not dating you, so no worries, your money is safe.
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
Msg: 88
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Posted: 3/8/2006 4:30:22 PM
yeaidid,
Nuttin' but love for ya baby! Hey look! Something shiney! jk.
hahahahahhahahahahahaha
 That Guy Him

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 89
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Posted: 3/8/2006 4:49:14 PM

$$$ don't mean chit...
My income was 4 X what the X makes plus she already had 6 other kids to support and they still gave our 3 to her

Doesn't that prove that the $$$ is what it's all about? I mean here:

I am going to fight for them again...

They're getting your money again. It's a "Pay me now or pay me later" kind of deal. Spend $50,000 up front and get the home run right off the bat, or spend your $50,000 over the course of the next 5 years tying everybody up in court. They're going to get your money one way or the other because that's what you are to the courts/lawyers... a meal ticket.

And maybe it should be asked why good parents lose custody. There are lots of good fathers who lose custody to mothers who are subpar as well. Again... the answer would be money.

If people weren't so vengeful and vindictive, prevention would be the best solution. However, with all the getting back at someone who's hurt you, people are just more concerned with how they can hurt the other person back or make them pay, so they use their children. The only time children ever win is when both parents check their pride at the door. Sadly I have only ever seen this scenario happen once. It's truly unfortunate because it only takes one parent being unable to do it to create the messy custody disputes that so many of us have found ourselves in.
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 5:29:20 PM
..see that is where you are wrong...
tsk tsk tsk
I want my kids because they could use a better life then what they have now...
They walk to my house, only two streets away, because they do not like being over there and the courts will not let them have their say till thye are 12 years old thus they will stay with her till then...
Since you are too lazy or what have you here is some of what I have posted:

crane man
...you are being transparent against the custodial and non-custodial parents to think anyone can simply go get a higher paying job within 6 mos... That statement is utter nonsense in every sense of the word... You are P O'd because you have your children but pay more of their living expenses???
I'll gladly trade places with you pal any day of the week... gezzzzzzzzzsus some people don't know when they have it good... I treasure my children and even though I am non-custodial does not mean I should pay more or less due to my X's current employment situation... I'd would give up half my current pay to have custody...

tsk tsk tsk
I still stand by that fact...
I have, even though not required, paid my X's rent, purchased and or fixed her vehicles and brought food to them on almost a monthly basis... I will not sit and watch them suffer if I can help but in the same token I also think it would be far better for my children to live with me and since it is their wish when they turn 12 we'll go to court and I'll fight again for a better life for my children...
I am not mad I am very happy at what will be

BTW my X would have to make over 35 grand not to be concidered in the pouverty level here in Ohio and she only makes 11K, in a good year, not her fault it is just a fact...
 jason1077

Joined: 2/23/2006
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Posted: 3/8/2006 5:49:16 PM
maybe they just turned out to be lousy mothers?
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 6:27:05 PM
My X is a real good Mother she simply does not have the means to support them even with the support I send (190.54 each week) and the extra I try to do for them...
Not her fault but the children should not suffer...
 Bibstar

Joined: 12/27/2005
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Posted: 3/8/2006 6:57:48 PM
Why do you think they suffer? You know you dont need much if you have love and you pay 100% attention to your kids...money isnt everything....you know your children may be happy with her.
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:15:52 PM
gezzzzzzzzzsus...
When they tell me that they are not happy, they are hungry, they have to sleep on the floor or couch, that their clothes are dirty or don't fit or don't have enough, there shoes don't fit... They tell me they are not happy DOH... and I tell them their Mom is doing the best she can... The older kids are home schooled and have friends over day/night the younger children are suffering because of that too... They do not get a good nights sleep on some school nights... I will go to court and fight for them because they will (have told me) tell the court they want to live with me... At 12 its there call...
100% love does not take care of their basic needs but it sure don't either...
Some people look for things that just are not there.....
 Jackie6969

Joined: 4/23/2005
Msg: 95
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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:40:30 PM
I'D HAVE TO AGREE WITH INTRIGUING77 ON THIS ONE, AS A FRIEND OF MINE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT SITUATION AND THERE WERE SEVERAL CHARGES ON THE "FATHER" 'S CRIMINAL RECORD (POSSESION AND D&D......ETC) BUT BECAUSE BOTH PARENTS WERE DETERMINED TO "WIN" THE CHILDREN, THE JUDGE GAVE THEM JOINT CUSTODY. THE "MOTHER" DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD, AND THE FATHER'S RECORD TOOK PLACE THE YEAR BEFORE THE CUSTODY BATTLE. THE JUDGE STATED THAT NO ONE LOST BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN HAVE TWO PARENTS AND THATS SOMETHING TO BE GRATEFUL FOR. ANYWAY I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH INTRIGUING77
 LOTRfreak

Joined: 3/1/2006
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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:41:07 PM
I lost custody of my daughter when she was eight. Her father never met her until she was almost six. Not because I never told him about her but because he never had any intrest in her. One day out of the blue he shows up and two years later won custody. I stayed home with her until she was in school all day, doted on her, she was my heart and soul. He won because he could afford a big shot lawyer and I couldn't afford one or get one appointed because I made too much money. Go figure. Anyway, now I get all kinds of grief from him at every turn and he never makes things between my daughter and I comfortable. The day will come when she will be old enough to make the decision to come home to me and she will understand that he only did this to hurt me and she will never forgive him for keeping us apart.

I dont understand how the judge ruled in his favor knowing dad was never in her life, didn't pay child support on a regular basis, was living off his gf and the state, and it was proven in court that he lied about several of the "issues" he used for grounds of the filing for custody. I'm convinced he had won before we ever walked into that court room, but I'm also convinced that he will eventually get what he deserves.
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:47:33 PM
..see that is out and out wrong..
I am sorry to hear that...
 River Girl

Joined: 8/26/2005
Msg: 98
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Posted: 3/8/2006 7:51:41 PM
I find it quite ironic that at speaks the way he does about it not being about money, but yet, all he claims is, IS about money....

Sounds to me you are a bit too wrapped up in the money issue.

It does not require just money to raise a good stable environment for kids. Sure, it goes hand in hand and is a part of raising children. But did you ever stop to think that maybe YOUR perception of what a good mother is revolves around the money issue? Maybe she is a good mother and provides for them. Not every parent has to have a goldmine to ensure the better parent. Hey, Im sure your a great parent too. Shit happens. You are still in their life. Just focus on being a good dad and work with what ya got.
 That Guy Him

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 99
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Posted: 3/9/2006 4:51:37 AM

..see that is where you are wrong...
tsk tsk tsk
I want my kids because they could use a better life then what they have now...

That's right... because you have money right? Just like riverbabe said. And again... it is about money for the courts because if they just gave you custody in the first place, if their mother is as broke as you say she is she cannot afford to go to court to try and get custody back. How are they going to get any more money out of your situation if the person with money has the children already?

It is about money. I would be willing to bet that over 90% of all custody battles have money at the root. Whether it's someone wanting more time to get out of paying support, someone who wants to make sure they get support... whatever. Whether you want the money for yourself or not, even you are basing your ability to provide financially for your children as means to prove that you are a better parent. I commend you for wanting the best for your children, but you have to step back and you will see it is about money.
 atrkyhntr™

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Posted: 3/9/2006 6:28:04 AM
My X has a lawyer assigned, from the start via legal aid...
Again you do not know what you are talking about and show your obvious ignorance to the subject at hand... You can try to twist what you perceive as the truth but it is not the truth its only your uneducated/bias guess, at best...
I simply have more money now because I did what it took to get a higher paying job and now reap the rewards. I do not stand still I move on...
Bottom line is I can and will provide a better life for my children and if I am guilty of anything it is that I live for my children and value them over myself. I am guilty as charged I will do as my children ask and go to court to let them have their say in the matter...
Whether I had more money or not I would still do what my children ask...
If I was a bad Father/Parent the court should not give me the children no matter how much money I have, and I would hope that is what happens in the higher % then not. Here they look into your background, talk to neighbors, relations and your current employer. All that helps in making the proper decision as to who should raise mine and other children...

I'll take that bet you so elegantly offered
My children and I can always use the extra money... That is what this is all about, not the children but the money

Have a nice day
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