| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 4:00:44 PM | | Shappy - I believe you have posted the most intelligent post I have seen in a long time. No rudeness, no juvenile comments, no hurling of insults, just an intelligent post, telling it like it is. I thank you. (And I am a non-smoker). | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 4:19:29 PM | | I am also a smoker, and it's not something that I like about myself. But as the one girl above - sugar said, it's better we keep doing it so we're not ragging beyatches!! lol... but seriously, when I started at age 15 I didn't think i'd still be smoking at 26. I thought it was cool at the time, now I often try to hide it. I know it's something I have to work on, but it seems I keep putting it off. Reading these articles will help tho!! :P | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 5:08:00 PM | Hey Seekone
N/p, I am just seeing how everyone is making it sound so bad. I have no problem against non-smokers, hell I am even seeing one. Yet all these people who make us sound like the devil. You'd be surprised if you do back in history of who was a devil and smoked, and who didn't lol
When I was out in Ottawa I was speaking with a politican about smoking laws and stuff, and I made one comment to him
" I have seen maybe of you guys break the law, make millions off of the smoking tax, and get away with it " his reply was - yeah and we're mostly all non-smokers. Go fig lol | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 5:28:42 PM |
all these people who make us sound like the devil [/unquote]
Not the people - the habit. Have you ever had someone try to shove their tongue down your throat after eating limburger cheese or something equally as vile? Same premise. The taste and smell of that stuff is reprehensible to a non-smoker. [cigs, not limburger]. Some of us get physically ill from it. Therefore, we like clean kisses. And no - mouthwash or liquor does not get rid of that horrible taste and odor. Matter of fact, makes it worse. I don't go out of my way to be insulting to someone who is addicted to nicotine, any more than I go out of my way to be unkind to someone with any other addiction. But I choose not to date an addict. Bad enough I have no choice but to breathe the air that is fouled with it. Live and let live, I say. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 5:59:25 PM | You could just as easily insert annoying "habits" like cellphone-mania, really BAD perfume or cheap after-shave, compulsive blabbering... the list is endless.
Everybody has their preferences... why blubber endlessly about 'em..? | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/5/2006 6:27:28 PM | (It is my sincere hope that smoking is completely outlawed in my life time. Will that happen? Of course not, the Government makes way too much money on this filthy habit for that to ever happen.)
Hey "Newandready", I've already said that I have been a non-smoker for a long time, but I hope to God they don't outlaw it. The government is in our lives too much already. You think there's a crime problem with "illegal drugs" now? I hate to see what would happen if they outlawed cigarettes. Look what happened when they had prohibition. Heck, they could stop the illegal drug problem instantly by making them legal and taxing them just like they do the other two "dangerous" drugs. Then the politicians would have even more money to waste. Like I said, I would be hesitant to date a smoker, but I probably would make the "sacrifice" if she was a real "Hottie"  This has been a real good forum. Most of the posts make very good arguments pro and con on getting turned off by someone who smokes. I've enjoyed reading them all.  | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/6/2006 4:48:21 PM | | Hi ya'll, I have been reading about the debate on smokers........I am ashamed to say.......I am one. I am also in the health field so I know exactly what it is doing to myself and others. I have tried to quit several times, only to start up again. I would love to get this monkey off my back for good and a good dose of willpower and maybe a patch would be a good start. I personally appologise to all of you that have put up with us smokers...........it isn't a pleasant habit............this is a day and age where smoking is totally out!!! I am addicted and I need to shape up and beat this thing..........so, yes, smoking is a total turn off and I don't blame any man who responds to me and says "no thank you" because I smoke.......one more reason to give the filthy habit up!!!!!!! | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/6/2006 5:02:50 PM | I'm a 12 year non-smoker so smoking is a HUGE turn off for me. The stuff stinks...plain and simple.
I actually had to quit seeing a guy after the third date because I could not get past the smell of his cigarettes. It is not fun trying to kiss someone and you end up gagging.
I wish more people would quit. It really is a disgusting habit. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/6/2006 8:27:42 PM | I have to confess a love/hate relationship with smokers. I wouldn't date someone who smokes regularly; not only does everything stink (and just TRY getting the smell out of long hair the morning after!), but I'm allergic, so it's not pretty. And both my grandparents are dying fairly ugly deaths from smoking, so I have no desire to be with someone who is going to go through that at some point.
On the other hand . . . my first serious boyfriend smoked once in a while. Not so much that he smelled like it, but maybe once a week. And I have to admit, that occasionally I'll walk by a good-looking guy and catch a faint whiff of tobacco, and it'll give me the shivers. Damn limbic brain and its smell associations . . . LOL | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/6/2006 9:46:40 PM | | I smoke- its not the healthiest thing in the world , but I am hurting only myself. I think drinking and driving should be more of a matter to fuss over. Back off the smokers. I never heard of anybody getting killed by a smoking driver. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/7/2006 8:05:07 PM | | I know how you feel...it's the most disgusting thing!!!!!!!!!! BLEH! Who wants to even be around that...the stentch on the clothing, the lovely yellow stained teeth and fingers and of course ashtray mouth...YICK! So I guess the answer is yes, it's gross and it a total turn-off. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/7/2006 8:13:49 PM | I agree with you Angel
We aren't talking about people who smoke, just the fifthy habit...I personally won't date a smoker as I have problems breathing myself and require an inhaler...so when I am ready to start dating someone, I won't date someone who smokes...that's my preference....I have plenty of friends who smoke and I do not discriminate against them, I just remind them that I want them to be around for along time......and I will kid around with them because they are my friends when they say "God I could go for a cigarette" my reply is you mean "A cancer stick" | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/7/2006 11:15:11 PM | Wow, I never knew how strongly non-smokers felt about smokers until this thread. I started smoking when I was 11 (just a mixed up kid) and now TODAY is my 50th. birthday. Yeah, I still smoke. I've smoked longer than I haven't smoked. Funny thing, my mom died 3 months ago with colon cancer....she never ate anything that wasn't good for her, never smoked nor did she drink. but she passed away with cancer at the young age of 66.
I would never bring down a smoker or a non-smoker, out of respect for my fellow man, but especially those who have quit, seem to easily bring down smokers. We know not what we will die from, so no need to say smoking will kill us........my mom is proof of that.
If a non-smoker doesn't want to date me, well that's ok too, he can just move on as I intent to.
No need to quarrel here......its just a thread to give our opinions.
Jane
www.freewebs.com/jaynedoe/ | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:37:42 AM | Hi Jane.
First of all, I'm very sorry to hear about your mother. I agree that to pass away at 66 is too young, and it makes you wonder what life is all about sometime. That said, I'm sure she had a purpose on this earth (she obviously raised a beautiful caring woman) and now that her job was done, perhaps she was needed elsewhere. (Sorry for sounding so deep and spiritual.)
Second : Happy belated 50th B'day Fifty isn't old at (if you're a tree) 
Actually, I just turned 51, and to me, it's just a number, as the heart always remains young if you want it to.
As far as people being ticked off at us smokers, tough noogies !!
I respect the non-smokers, and do my best not to smoke in their presence, especially if I'm in an enclosed area. I don't even smoke in my own house, and very rarely in my car, but not if I have a passenger (especially kids). The worst complainers I find are the EX-smokers. The feel they have the right to push it down our throats that smoking is unhealthy and sociably non acceptable. Hell, I'm not the one that made them quit, and if they're miserable because of their decision....live with it. Don't get me wrong, I will probably end up quitting the dirty habit myself, but I'll do it when I'm good and ready to do so, plus I'll do it because "I" want to quit, not because people are suggesting or tellng me to quit. I think what I hate most about being a smoker is the smell it leaves on our clothes and breath. Most of us smokers don't usually smell it ourselves, but having quit once for about 6 months, I did notice the odors from other smokers, which I admit can be a turn off for certain people. You'd wonder how none smokers put up with it back in the 50's and 60's when almost everybody smoked. How times have changed.
Anyway, I don't want to get into an argument here either, just wanted to say I understand how you feel about it, as well as wish you a belated B'day wish.
Oh, and by the way, I found your picture quite cute (for what it's worth) and you actually only live about a half hour from me (Hawkesbury Ontario area)
Take care, and best of luck in whatever you are searching for.
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 8:19:30 AM | I'm a non-smoker...and have friends/family who DO smoke. BUT...I cannot stand it for prolonged periods. My eyes swell,sinuses stop up, etc.
After all...those of you who say it's YOUR body affected & noone else's, you're delusional in that misinformation.Second-hand smoke has been [scientifically] PROVEN to be far more harmful to the non-smoker than the actual smoker who is inhaling.
That aside, I did have a relationship with a couple of heavy smokers...and I loved them dearly, they tried their best to be considerate, but it did affect my feelings in the intimacy dept.
And, I haven't read all the previous posts (whether, or not, THIS was mentioned), but there's another factor involved...involving oral-adventures! I quickly discovered you REALLY are "what you eat"!! I SWEAR there is a blatent "taste difference" in a heavy smoker vs non.  Make for a great gubbermint-funded survey, eh. Heh Heh. | |
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Posted: 8/10/2006 8:24:54 AM | I agree midnight rider. It's funny how smokers, even occaisional ones such as myself can go so fart out of their way to be respectful of the feelings of non-smokers, but they in no way feel the need to return the courtesy. Now me, I don't want to turn this into a raging smoker vs non smoker debate, but um yeah watching a woman down numerous "Martini du jours", or giggling like an idiot as she drunkenly cavorts with her friends in public, yeah that is dead sexy..not! And its so safe too! Interesting, I never hear anyone ever calling for an increased sin tax, or a ban on that in public, go figure huh?
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 9:26:48 AM |
but I'll do it when I'm good and ready to do so, plus I'll do it because "I" want to quit, not because people are suggesting or tellng me to quit.
Yes, I agree. It is so annoying having people bug you about something - in fact it made me rebel even more. I never suggest or tell people to quit - I know exactly what that is like.
I know a couple of people who are ex-smokers and who really rag on smokers. It drives you crazy. I mean, here you are knowing that you are doing something that is bad for you and you want to quit and people are making you feel worse about it so you have a cigarette to make yourself feel better! Bugging someone will not make them quit, it will only annoy them.
I found it easy to quit (was more of an occassional smoker), but not everyone does. Unless you've been through an addiction or really try to understand it, one cannot relate. I've seen some addictions worse than smoking and it is not easy for some people.
I do not enjoy the smell and do not want it around me on a daily basis, hence could not commit myself to a smoker so do not feel it fair to even date someone who smokes. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 9:40:07 AM | I personally smoke but am careful when I smoke (don't smoke in someone's home if they don't smoke...it's called "manners") and always have gum or mints so has never been a problem for me (if the opportunity of a kiss came up, lol). Btw, never ever had any complaints either.
Really wish the "smoker-bashing" would stop. Just my 2 cents. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 9:52:22 AM | I get truned off if I am in a park and I see a really good looking man and then he lights up, I'm immediately not interested. I've taken care of a lot of elderly people and I can tell you from experience smoking is very bad. The people I've taken care of smoked most of their lives and at the age of 60 they started having serious health problems. Some are on oxygen now and when I ask them how many years they smoked they tell me if they knew then what they know now about cigarettes they would not have smoked. They have to transport the oxygen wherever they go and it can be a real hassle. Some people cannot even leave their houses. My brother is a plumber and worked for a man that was sitting on his front porch with his oxygen tank next to him, smoking a cigarette. My brother who used to smoke said he was afraid the man was going to blow up the house, since your not suppose to smoke around oxygen tanks. I dated a man once that said he did'nt smoke and then after we had been seeing each other for about a month he lit up a cigarette, he was a courtesy smoker. After he smoked he would go in and brush his teeth, so when we kissed I did'nt taste the nicotine. But I prefer to date non smoker's and people that have never smoked, that way they should be healthier as they get older, granted this is no guarantee, but it sure does help. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 10:27:06 AM | ^^^^ It is a shame that a lot of really good looking men smoke. It is an instant turn off for me as well.
PS. I am not saying this to hurt the feelings of any smokers. I was a smoker myself at one time. Now I am a nonsmoker and being with a nonsmoker is simply my preferred preference. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 10:56:18 AM | | I wouldn't mind smokers if they were just killing themselves. But a smoker can't smoke without if affecting other people. Who wants to go in a bar or a nice place to eat. And have to deal with choking clouds of smoke? | |
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