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nicki1
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Joined: 4/23/2006
Msg: 351 | |
| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 11:10:17 AM | | i dont date smokers, if i did i would have the same rules for him as i give my friens even my builder, you dont smoke in my car, while im eating and not in my house if they want a ciggy they get sent into the garden even if it rains. | |
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Shaps
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Joined: 4/23/2005
Msg: 352 | |
| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 12:44:02 PM | Lake Erie
We ALL !!!! do things which can affect another person. Non-smokers just like to think smoking is to blame for everything.
I lost my arm cause of a smoker, or I can't get laid cause all women smoke, or I dropped my baby on his head cause I was running away from a smoker.
One day, and it might happen today or 5 years down the road. A smoker will have an impact on your life, a positive one. Might be saving your life or helping you with opening the door. Just cause of a habit ( which everyone has one ), which you don't approve of, doesn't make us anymore different then a non-smoker. We pay taxes ( actually more ), we drive, we work, we want to love.
Once you can get pass that rude viewing of us you can move on with your life.
Anyone ever think that your comments in this thread and other rude ones made in the past, has affected your chances of finding love.
I mean, anyone who has typed something mean and rude about smokers I have really thought twice about chatting with.
Hell I have had 3 females who are non-smokers from this post contact me saying "Oh smoking doesn't really bother me, wanna chat and maybe meet "
2 faces all the way and a BLOCK for you lol | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 1:25:06 PM | I'm gathering all the people who say "wouldn't mind if smokers were just killing themselves but we're affecting other people".....guess you all walk everywhere....don't drive...because actually, the exhaust from our vehicles are more poisonous then the bit of smoke you may encounter from smokers...I'm saying the bit of smoke you encounter because smokers aren't really allowed to smoke in many public places anymore.
Again, just my 2 cents. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 6:44:43 PM | "After all...those of you who say it's YOUR body affected & noone else's, you're delusional in that misinformation.Second-hand smoke has been [scientifically] PROVEN to be far more harmful to the non-smoker than the actual smoker who is inhaling."
Ummm.... how could that even be remotely possible? The smoker is inhaling the smoke directly (which the non-smoker is not) and indirectly even more so than the non-smoker due to proximity to the cig.....
Talk about delusional.....
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 6:58:54 PM | I'm delusional. yeah. Not always. Sometimes...BUT....
Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet
March 2006
Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke, is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.1
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Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).2
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Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths and 35,000-62,000 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.3
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A study found that nonsmokers exposed to environmental smoke were 25 percent more likely to have coronary heart diseases compared to nonsmokers not exposed to smoke.4
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Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of ETS in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.5
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Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada.6 Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.7
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As of 2005, 9 smoke-free states prohibit smoking in almost all workplaces, including restaurants and bars (CA, CT, DE, ME, MA, NY, RI, VT and WA).8
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Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.9
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Secondhand smoke exposure may cause buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits per year. Secondhand smoke can also aggravate symptoms in 400,000 to 1,000,000 children with asthma.10
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In the United States, 21 million, or 35 percent of, children live in homes where residents or visitors smoke in the home on a regular basis.11 Approximately 50-75 percent of children in the United States have detectable levels of cotinine, the breakdown product of nicotine in the blood.12
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New research indicates that secret research conducted by cigarette company Philip Morris in the 1980s showed that secondhand smoke was highly toxic, yet the company suppressed the finding during the next two decades.13
For more information on secondhand smoke, please review the Tobacco Morbidity and Mortality Trend Report as well as our Lung Disease Data publication in the Data and Statistics section of our website, or call the American Lung Association at 1-800-LUNG-USA (1-800-586-4872).
Sources:
1. California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.
2. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung
Cancer and Other Disorders. December 1992.
3. California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.
4. He, J.; Vupputuri, S.; Allen, K.; et al. Passive Smoking and the Risk of Coronary Heart Disease-A Meta-Analysis of Epidemiologic Studies. New England Journal of Medicine 1999; 340: 920-6.
5. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Report on Carcinogens, Tenth Edition 2002. National Toxicology Program.
6. Shopland, D. Smoke-Free Workplace Coverage. Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine. 2001; 43(8): 680-686.
7. Halpern, M.T.; Shikiar, R.; Rentz, A.M.; Khan, Z.M. Impact of Smoking Status on Workplace Absenteeism and Productivity. Tobacco Control 2001; 10: 233-238.
8. American Lung Association, State of Tobacco Control: 2005.
9. California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.
10. Ibid.
11. Schuster, MA, Franke T, Pham CB. Smoking Patterns of Household Members and Visitors in Homes with Children in United States. Archives of Pediatric Adolescent Medicine. Vol. 156, 2002: 1094-1100.
12. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. America's Children and the Environment: Measures of Contaminants, Body Burdens, and Illnesses. Second Edition. February 2003
13. Diethelm PA, Rielle JC, McKee M. The Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth? The Research Philip Morris Did Not Want You to See. Lancet. Vol. 364 No. 9446, 2004 | |
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TishC
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Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 357 | |
| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:05:39 PM | | .everone wants to bash smokers and how they smell and all that, but what about us who don't drink beer or whiskey or the other smelly drinks and wake up to their breath in the morning. so you non-smokers think you are so self-righteous and clean smelling, etc and want to hang all over women when you are drinking, why don't you stop and think of your own faults. There is nothing sexy about a drunk and that goes for men or women. | |
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TishC
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Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 358 | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:21:58 PM | See above statistics. "Smell" ain't the issue. And....It DOES affect your non-smoking pals. BUT...They love you so they tolerate it. Fair? Who can say.
Aside from that...I do believe the average non-smoker on this thread has been clear that they simply do not LIKE smoke, cigs,etc., and have a difficult time in the attraction arena. Simply put...personal preferences.
I have noticed that the smoking faction here has been (seemingly) hostile and defensive...which I can understand. ANY addiction, esp one that is no longer widely accepted and condoned, creates defensiveness. (Drinking too!)
If ya like to smoke great. Go for it. Just expect some negative feedback. And remember those who don't smoke. Every habit involves consideration for others.
Interestingly...my friends, AND family, who smoke, constantly b*tch how much they hate it and wish they could quit. And it's not for my benefit...they really mean it.
I have one girlfriend who is a heavy smoker...and she looks 10 years older than she really is.
She comments on it all of the time...has desperately tried to quit...and fails everytime.
So...for many it CAN be less than pleasurable. Even the ones who find momentary pleasure in it...  | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:24:06 PM |
just curious..guys..you know when u see a really good looking girl across the room and you look at her for a while..studying her moves and getting the courage up to go and talk to her?...what happens when she whips out a smoke and starts smoking..i dunno i get totally turned off..just wondering if anyone else is like that?..ladies feel free to change the sexes around in the question.
Yeah, I'm the same... total turnoff... although it's ingrained into me: I'm a Californian 
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 7:31:36 AM | | Right on gurl you tell them! Why should we put up with somebody else's nasty habits. As for smokers, they are blocked from emailing me anyways. I don't want to know any smokers. Why should we pay for another persons nasty habits? Why should a mother get lung cancer, who never smoked in her life ,just because she had to work in bar to support her family?Why should I have to inhale you second hand smoke while I am trying to eat? Why should I have to step in some person chewing tobbacco spit because he chose to spit all over the place? Why should and innocent have to die or be maimed for life because somebody decided to drink and drive?Bad habits are alright, but when they affect innocent people I definately have a problem with that.Why should I pay for your dirty habits? Drinking is fine, just don't get behind the wheel of a car! Smoking is fine, just don't do it where other people are compromised by your second hand smoke.All I am asking is some common courtesy. Don't draw me into your nasty habit kicking and screaming because I have no choice in the matter. Smokers and drunks inconvience others with their habits.Why should we have to put up with it? I never claimed to be better than anyone else. I just don't want to be affected by other peoples nasty habits. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 10:43:03 AM |
"After all...those of you who say it's YOUR body affected & noone else's, you're delusional in that misinformation.Second-hand smoke has been [scientifically] PROVEN to be far more harmful to the non-smoker than the actual smoker who is inhaling."
Ummm.... how could that even be remotely possible? The smoker is inhaling the smoke directly (which the non-smoker is not) and indirectly even more so than the non-smoker due to proximity to the cig.....
Talk about delusional.....
Its possible if you think about it for a moment. You are inhaling FILTERED into your lungs. A lot of what we get as second hand smoke is the UNFILTERED smoke that comes from your burning cigarette. That is in addition to your exhaled smoke that we are also forced to endure.
Also, its time to stop bringing other pollutants into this discussion. Sure cars pollute, we all admit that. However, driving is not an option in our society. We all have to drive to get to work etc. Some of you wise *sses will say its optional. but if you think about it, it is not. Our society cannot function without motorized vehicles. Smoking, my friend, is optional. Society as we know it would not grind to a halt if no one smoked. It would if we stopped driving.
Brining other pollutants into this discussion cannot justify smoking. Nor will bringing in other topics like drinking. I think we would probably all agree that someone that has been drinking all night does not smell very attractive. Again, that does not negate the initial premise of this post.
The premise of this post is a simple question. The majority of the responses have been a resounding yes that smoking is a turn off. The important thing to remember here is that these answers are opinions. Having page after page of smoking vs nonsmoking debate if pointless. No one on either side of this are going to change your minds.
I, for one, will continue to avoid smokers as potential date companions. And I will continue to be disapointed every time I an attractive woman catches my eye only to be follwed by her placing a cigarette to her lips.
My hope is that the smokers out there will read this and see that a majority of people find smoking disgusting. And maybe, just maybe, they will take the steps to quit as they see it might be a contributing factor to why they are alone. We all have enough reasons that are out of our control why a potential date may not consider us. Height, build, hair color etc are all reasons why someone would not want to date us. Why add something optional (and disgusting) to the list of things that take you out of consideration.
Perhaps if smokers won't quit for their own health and the health of others, they just might quit when it starts to impact their ability to get laid!  | |
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Shaps
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Joined: 4/23/2005
Msg: 365 | |
| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 10:53:14 AM | Notice how everyone is still only talking about their dates or meeting a smoker.
Come on your shallow people -- cut smokers out of everything you do and all places you go.
Remember only you can make a difference lol
BTW last night I recieved another message from a woman who stated that she did not mind that I smoked. Worst part in her profile, she has the restriction up lol
I bet when your sitting at home, all alone, and you just finished having sex with your keyboard/video/BOB/hand/blow-up doll lol -- being around a smoker will be the last thing your thinking about when you send out your next message | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 12:33:16 PM | Notice is how everyone is sticking to the original premise of this thread? The thread is about getting turned off by smokers. As such, it would relate to dating, not so much about the rest of our lives. We have control over who we date and who we find attractive. We don't have control over the rest of the people we encounter in our lives. Having preferences does not make us shallow, that is what makes us human. So, just becuase we do not care to be around smokers does not makes us shallow. Frankly, it is not the smoker we dislike as much as it is the habit. If you didn't smoke we would then judge you against our other dating criteria and see if we would want to date you. Smoking just happens to be a deal breaker for most people.
I really don't see a time in my life, no matter how lonely I would become, that I would be around a smoker in a dating situation. That is how disgusting I find smoking. I tried dating a smoker once and I find that I just can't do it. There is simply no way to get around the taste and smell or the effects it has on the skin. So I guess if my choice os to be home alone or out with a smoker, I will be home alone. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 2:03:51 PM | I've dated a couple smokers in my time and both times became quite complicated to the point that the relationship did'nt work out.
I'm at the point now that I do get turned off by any woman that smokes. I tend to find that "most" smokers (not all, for those that want to be politically correct on here) are very selfish and inconsiderate when it comes to us nonsmokers. That thought alone makes a hot babe who is smoking a total turn off. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 3:57:15 PM | | I'm 33 and haven't even been in a relationship but the idea of a smoker is just so distasteful to me that it wouldn't matter if they were "into" me, I just couldn't do it. And I take responsibility for that, including remaining alone, just as they take the responsibility for smoking. Its all personal choice, but everyone's entitled to their opinion and the consequences of such. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 4:09:17 PM | does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
HELL YES I DO!!!...especially if she smokes my last cig without asking!
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ok...that was too easy. the thread was started with "does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?" answer yes or no with some explaination if desired and be done. islgurl, wow, that's a lot of info...we can all google. i agree with you its personal preferance. the thread is not "does second hand smoke really hurt other people. lake_erie_treasure, wow, why are you so angry? it's a simple question. you don't like smokers, then don't date them. no need to chastise them. we all have our vices, don't we lake_erie_treasure?
now to seriously answer the question, yeah i rather date a non-smoker than a smoker but don't give the issue much weight. i smoke when i drink but not otherwise (i'm a former pack a dayer). i don't like the smell. if i'm with somebody that doesn't like cig's at all then i won't smoke...not that big a deal for me. more a habit with a drink than anything else.
jpneok, that might be the most intelligent post on this thread...well said.
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 4:43:42 PM | "islgurl, wow, that's a lot of info...we can all google."
 APPARENTLY some people can't....so I just helped them/him out.
Seems many are determined to argue, lamely, that their "habit" affects noone else...ain't a lick of truth to dat! Not if they venture out of the closet.
Like I stated way back when....everyone's personal choice. BUT...I notice MOST of the non-Smokers are not attacking the Person as much as the actual Habit and Activity.
I have yet to hear any friends/family who smoke state that they are GLAD/HAPPY they smoke.
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/11/2006 5:15:56 PM | "islgurl, wow, that's a lot of info...we can all google."
APPARENTLY some people can't....so I just helped them/him out.
yeah...this is true. and to debate second hand smoke does not harm others is not a debate at all...scores of scientific data supports this. I do believe the dangers of second hand smoke are overstated in many cases though, but there is unquestionably dangers.
i have many friends and family members that are happy smokers, enjoy their smoking, and feel the risk does not outweight the enjoyment they receive therefore have no desire to quit. again, personal choice.
~Football "incorrectly assume everyone has some thread of intelligence" Penguin | |
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vhdc
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Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 372 | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/13/2006 5:06:58 PM | I dont minda smoker but step away while lighting that thing lol. I dont smoke but i have dated women that do & they were very ok with due respect..So goes both ways men & women smoke lol..
But.. smoking near anyone eating or near children kills em its told so is so nasty come on here .. have respect. glad there is a by law for smokers now. its the bad smokers who reck it for the other smokers that have respect..hava nice day i will:) | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/14/2006 4:43:35 AM | | I would have to say yes i get turned off by smoking, and would most likely NOT date someone who smokes, especially because I am an ex-smoker and now I find it completely disgusting.......not to mention ever watch someone die from lung cancer? I have and dont want to see that ever again, although with 75% of my family being smokers, im almost positive Im going to experience it again. But as for dating someone with the possibility of being with them forever? I would like SOMEONE to outlive me so I have someone holding my hand in my last hour. | |
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| does anyone get as turned off with a smoker as i do?
Posted: 8/14/2006 1:22:19 PM | Yes, Totally turned off by smoking! Love it when a guy says he doesn't smoke and you go on a date and all you can smell off him is cigarette smoke, hmmm.. what is he thinking... I'm allergic to it, so really bothers me.You know, men get ticked off that I won't date them just because they smoke. yuck, the yellow teeth, bad breath.. that go with it! ughhh... The looks and personality go out the window.... LOL ......
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Choirgirl.... | |
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