| Bob Dylan...
Posted: 3/22/2007 9:58:18 PM | I've enjoyed pretty much all covers of Dylan's songs except one. G&R's take on Knockin' On Heavens Door. I thought I was gonna throw up when I heard it. Dudes voice virtually destroyed the song. The way he sings "Dooooor....yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah..." Man oh man that sucks sooooooooo freakin bad!
But hey thats just my opinion. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 5:46:27 AM | | Well, I'm not a fan of Dylan. Not to say he isn't a talented song writer and has made important contributions to classic rock music. But I think he is a terrible performer and can't sing to save his life. But when other artists have performed his music it was just fine. | |
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Posted: 3/26/2007 3:25:54 PM | only 1 song off Nashville Skyline?whaaaat?...country pie(funky)/tonite Ill be stayin here with you(george jones would be proud to sing that+tell me that it isnt true)..dont think Lay lady lay best choice for a single...but thousands bought it+it IS catchy..the prominent tomtoms etc..
..1 glitch Id say on the whole album...he should have layed off the harmonica on Nashville skyline rag+got charley mc coy...would have made that a superb track....all in all though its a "Nashville" record+ the "heads" in music soon jumped on the bandwagon....Gram Parsons et al...(yeah Gram liked country but Bob gave him permission) | |
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Posted: 3/26/2007 11:22:30 PM | | ^^^ actually, I believe the International Submarine Band's "Safe At Home" album was out before Nashville Skyline...as well as The Byrd's "Sweetheart Of The Rodeo" album....even Dylan's 'hints' of country rock on John Wesley Harding album was put out after these two important (Parsons) releases. Gram Parsons hardly needed Bob Dylan (or anyone elses) permission to do what he did best... | |
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Posted: 3/28/2007 12:42:38 PM | I take exception to that...
Jimi Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower" is probably Jimi's masterpiece. It revealed his deep love and respect for Dylan and took what was a very auster musical poem and turned it into symphony. It was made at the first 16 track recording studio, Electric Lady Land and Jimi used that enhanced capability to fully express himself. Listening to it, I think you can hear that he wasn't just making a cover, but pouring all his mastery into it, with the greatest care.
The smartest man I ever met, who was the father of a friend of mine who was a professor of history at Cal State LA, said that someone like Dylan only comes along once ever 100 years.
Zimmy has a cafe in Santa Monica, California, the 18th Street Cafe. Its on Broadway at 18th Street. He is known to show up there. The only thing about the place that's a drag is that it closes relatively early, like 8 PM. | |
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Posted: 3/29/2007 7:48:20 AM | | Hawkwind...after listening to most of Dylan's originals, I now hav a difficult time listening to any covers...The 60s stuff like Blowin in the Wind by Peter, Paul and Mary and Mr Tamborene Man sound too sanitized and cleaned up...I hear the elements of rawness and emotion taken out of the record cos maybe that kind of music just doesnt sell to the masses who want overly pretty music...Dylans originals are more authentic and honest to me | |
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Posted: 3/30/2007 12:01:58 AM | Dylan is a brilliant songwriter, guitar player and singer. He had a knack for making his guitar playing seem more natural than it really is, which some people confuse with amatuerishness. The same with his singing. Dylan tapped into the deep well of American folk music and learned all about phrasing, pushing and pulling the beat, microtonal phrasing, and so many other techniques that just don't have a name in the classical music lexicon.
Other people have a knack for making their music more difficult sounding than it really is which impresses the shallow. Because Dylan's brilliance can't be analyzed he's often looked down on by fools. I'm sure he doesn't mind.
"Something is happening and you don't know what it is--- do you?" Ballad of a Thin Man | |
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Posted: 3/31/2007 10:57:17 AM | apologies in order on chronology re:Nashville Skyline/Gram Parsons....
still think there is no comparison in quality of songs/performance/professionalism...
...Clarence White about the only authentic country player out of tbe lot of them...
Im not offering definitive musical opinion here...its quality Im talking about...and yes thats subjective...but let me be subjective....Gram sang out of tune+Hickory Wind way too slow.a dirge even.
..Kris Kristofferson sang out of tune,but he had good songs that could stand it...Jerry Lee Lewis(total country singer)COULDNT sing out of tune...Bob Dylan didnt sing out of tune(except for his harmony with Johnny Cash on Girl of the North Country...not a good track towards the end+think he blew an otherwise great rendition..
reaching that age where i dont care,even if im wrong... | |
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Posted: 3/31/2007 1:41:05 PM | | Bob Dylan is one of my favourite artist. Been listening to his work for a long long time and I never get tired of it. Way too many favourite songs to list but one of the standout songs for me would be Jokerman. Love the video too. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2007 7:17:25 PM | Being in and out of tune is, too a small degree subjective. One man's vibrato is another's quaver. Gram was off sometimes like lots of singers, sure. But some of what you're talking about are those little micro tonal ornaments bending into notes, which are really important to country and blues. I hear similiar things in appalachian music. I agree about hickory wind though, def not my favorite gram song. And there are some out of tune harmonies on some of his recordings and sour notes. He still has brilliant moments.
While we're on the topic of folk/poets/auteurs, how about Leonard Cohen, Scott Walker, Townes Van Zandt, and if anyone's heard of them, Alex Chilton and Daniel Johnston?
I found Cohen unlistenable until I got sucked into Songs from a Room. Townes is great, but so many of the arrangements are sub-par. I'm just now getting into Scott Walker's early and middle stuff. And I'm a long time disciple of Alex Chilton and Daniel Johnston. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2007 11:02:55 PM | One day one of the members of the notorious group Milli Vanilli mentioned that he was better then Bob Dylan and others like Keith richards from rolling stones and he even called himself the "New Elvis".
The wierd thing is, I beleive him when he said he is better then Bob Dylan.
Sorry OP and any other Bob Dylan fan, but ....lol.....thats just my opinion and many others too perhapes.
The guy can't sing | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 8:23:16 AM | I am a big fan, especially of his pre christain music.
I find his lyrics to be amazing, and will often quote them..... | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 10:04:57 AM | | hi, i first started listening to dylan when i picked up a "cassette" in bangkok when i was travelling at 18 !! ...god 22 years ago ! i got stuck with bobby d on the island where they filmed "the beach" for nearly three months so i got to know every word ,its funny how even years after i can hear a certain tune and it takes me right back to a special moment ...he's a poet !!! | |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 5:40:53 PM | Distant ships sailing in through the mist,
You were born with a snake in both of your fists, while a hurricane was blowing.
I really like the album Infidels, I think some of his best songs are on there, it could have been better if he spent more time on that album though. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 7:07:09 PM | | Yes indeedy I have to concur with my two bob's worth. I feel very strongly that ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER BY JH IS THE ONLY GOOD DYLAN COVER EVER | |
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Posted: 4/13/2007 10:41:08 AM | | Van Morrison - when he was with 'Them' in the mid sixties - did a haunting version of It's All Over Now Baby Blue | |
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Posted: 4/14/2007 4:40:36 AM | | Yes I'm sure they're out there.....I'll qualify it. There must be at least half a dozen. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2007 8:26:16 AM | | You know, a lot of people like Dylan myself included but I caught him in Vancouver last year and I couldn't believe he'd put out that garbage. I liked the album, hated the concert. To me it sounded like a highschool band warming up with everyone playing whatever...and Dylan just kind of humming along to the garble. He must be sitting back laughing at all of us chumps who paid big dollars to have our ears offended. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 11:42:40 AM | | Saint...Im a big Townes fan here...He played alot in Austin, Texas during the 70s but ,alas, I was too young to know about or appreciate him then, even though I grew up only an hour away from Austin!..Next to Dylan and Young, I consider him an incredible poet of music..Taken away from us when he was far too young | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 11:51:42 PM | | is one of my favorite artists though sometimes the man says some of the most arrogant sh*t. I love how he got his name and how he followed in the footsteps of some of the great folk singers. He stands up for what he believes in and uses his artistic talent to move his audiences. I give him 5 out of 5 stars for graphic nudity and lude bahavior...(yes I know that doesnt make sence but....what are ya gonna do about it) | |
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Posted: 6/3/2007 11:33:54 PM | "The Concert For Bangla-Desh" features a great Dylan set. Bob on acoustic guitar, George Harrison on electric lead, Leon Russell on bass and Ringo shaking a tambourine. They ran through "A Hard Rain's A Gonna Fall", "Mr. Tambourine Man", "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry", "Blowin' In The Wind" and "Just Like A Woman".
The DVD features "Love Minus Zero (No Limit)" from the afternoon show, and "If Not For You" from a rehearsal.
I'm not sure, but the DVD leaves out one song that was on the original 3 album set - "Mr Tambourine Man".
This was my first introduction to Bob Dylan's music.
Anyone ever heard the Firesign Theatre's "Eat Or Be Eaten" album? There's a funny Dylan parody on it. "Bob Dylan's back! Now he's singing OPERA!" | |
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Posted: 6/4/2007 1:00:51 PM | Saint you said "Being in and out of tune is, too a small degree subjective that is a load of crap" you are either in tune or not. mabey if you do not have a ear its subjective but for me its very exact . every one stole from dylan he was a pivotel songwriter in history music would not be the same with out him but the cat can not sing come on get real. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2007 4:41:24 PM | I saw Bob Dylan play in Austin,TX (1991) at the same time that i was buying my ticket for the concert NIRVANA (!) was doing an in-store appearance...
favorite dylan tune---'All I Really Want to Do'
and agree--- Gram Parsons, Leonard Cohen, Townes Van Zandt AND Daniel Johnston are all great songwriters too.
ohhh, also love Kris Kristofferson.
plus i will add one more--- Elvis Costello (another great songwriter IMO) | |
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Posted: 6/4/2007 5:15:39 PM | | notable women: Suzanne Vega, Liz Phair and PJ Harvey | |
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Posted: 6/4/2007 9:13:32 PM |  Been to two Dylan concerts and each the halls were smelling like pot smoke, and the way dylan performs is he always from a little lyrical meat outthere to see if people can figure out what he saying in his songs. Still, Neil Young for me has similar type songs but at least he easier to understand lyrically. Dylan is poet in song writing, and where Neil Young says it like it is, and I love both of them. | |
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