| The problem with Sagittarian men
Posted: 3/1/2006 6:35:21 PM | Sagittarius is the last of the Fire signs of the Zodiac and the only one to also belong to the Mutable group. Those born under this sign tend to be enthusiastic about life. They are friendly, warm and seek to make other people feel good too. They are also as generous with information as they are with gifts. They tend to be optimistic, bright and sociable. Their life quest is to experience life to the full – incorporating adventures: mental and physical.
As one of the mutable signs those born under the sign of Sagittarius have a high degree of adaptability. They enjoy variety too. The true Sagittarius enjoys cultivating a world-view. They are curious and gather knowledge with ease. Some people think of them as walking encyclopaedias. They have of thirst for education though they do not always enjoy the formal indication provided at school. They are also driven by the need to arrive at fair and balanced judgement.
Sagittarius people are idealistic and have high expectations. They have a thirst for travel and freedom of movement is important to them, they always manage to raise their sights a little higher each time. As a result they usually travel far and wide. They are usually prosperous and successful.
The Sagittarius’ word is his bond. Those born under this sign will never offer what they cannot deliver. A high code of ethics is never far from their surface. They are benevolent and quick to offer support to those less able to fight for themselves. They are chivalrous and enjoy being seen as knights in shining armour. They have high standards but are playful and even light hearted in pursuit of these.
Sagittarius-born people often enter people's lives like thunderbolts or whirlwinds. They are also notorious for being known as the eternal bachelor, but when they finally commit to someone, it's for real and what a CATCH.
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| The problem with Sagittarian men
Posted: 3/1/2006 6:38:21 PM | I fell in love with a Sag., tumultous at best, I never knew where I stood, only wanted me in the meantime, until he found someone better... best of lovers, left me breathless... always, but the emotional wounds inflicted with a self centered, self serving rightiousness, left me no option but to relegate him to a safe place as friend... worth knowing and brilliant, but one has to be extremely confident and secure within to spend any time with them. Otherwise they are slayers of self esteem in their critisizms. They call only when they want or need something. Not at all generous with time, or love, it gets doled out in measures.
I wouldn't do it again... for me Scorpios are tragic, Leo's Rock. Arians are karmic, Taurean men are the most gentle, romantic and generous. Cancer men are too sensitive, Virgo's allergic, Libras are lovers, but undecisive, there are too many Gemini's, Pisces men are prone to delusions and drug abuse, Aquarian men are flacky, Caps are a pain in the ass... and Sag's are... as above.
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| The problem with Sagittarian men
Posted: 3/1/2006 6:44:36 PM | | It's like you met my husband! We are divorcing after a 6 year relationship/2 year marriage filled with nothing but what you described. These guys will pull you in with their charm, sex appeal, and their intellect. Mine was the most intelligent man I've ever met. After you've lost your heart to them, then they start with the games and denials. They are totally restless and need constant attention and stimulation. There is always something or someone to conquer. I loved my Sag with all my heart, but could not live with him and his lies. Never have I connected so deeply and yet been so hurt by someone. I knew how he was before I married him and I still did it, that was my fault. I am learning from this, picking up and moving on to healthier and happier times. He, however, is now dealing with a side interest that he got pregnant. Our divorce was final today. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 6:54:51 PM | The Sag men you may be referring to could quite possibly be undeveloped and immature, at any age, lacking social skills, morals, ethics, etc. - as with any zodiac sign. There are those that don't care to explore astrology to the extent of heeding the advice given toward their negative tendencies and therefore don't ever get the opportunity to enhance the positives, horoscopes are only meant as a guide - not a hardfast rule of who we are but rather who we could be........
the newspaper horoscopes are truly trash, for entertainment purposes only - anyone who is interested should get a "natal" chart on themselves, including time and place of birth, they would see how accurately it describes them. I've seen many peoples mouths drop open when I ran a chart for them. There are also many factors influencing our basic personalities in addition to our zodiac sign - including our home environment and those that raised us, blah, blah.
It's a really cool science if anyone is interested - I studied it for a long time, alot of people I know poo-poo astrology but it's very complex if you scratch beneath the surface of the magazine and newspaper garbage - above all else it can be used as a tool to help one become more self-aware.......
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| The problem with Sagittarian men
Posted: 3/1/2006 7:24:37 PM | *******PRIVATENITES..........
From one Sag to another Sag, I really like what you have to say and am a complete believer in the power of knowing and studying astrology. It has been a passion of mine for many many years. You are right it is not about reading your standard horoscope in the paper, it is about many more things that make up a specific forecast for each individual. May it be your place and time of birth ......or yes even your upbringing does play an important role as well.
Dating a Sag male...........some things from the posts I am finding true whether it be in the negative or positive, but for the most part I believe that because we are so similar that we have a better understanding of each other and our diverse natures.
Wonderful posts private........
Thx
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:36:36 PM | Nature - thank you for being an open minded Sag sister! and seeing the bigger picture. It's important we all realize there are good and bad in all signs, both genders -
Sag males can be a tad "adventurous" to say the least, but given our position at birth we have to help em out here  | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:50:21 PM | Adventure is what we both seek and I think that is what is the hugest appeal with him.....whatever I suggest he is game for, its quite cool.
Emotional levels I find we are different though.......the Sag male can be kind of aloof to his feelings and emotions. Not always open in that department, wouldnt you agree? Open in every other aspect though.
Sagittarians are very open minded..........nothing suprises or shocks me! | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:40:32 PM | The problem Sagittarians.....are the ones that have not yet evolved....do not truly know themselves...have issues etc....just like the rest of the men out there of any other sign....in other words...the "players" or the "problematic" Sag's are only that way due to life influences...and can be carbon copied to every other sign in the zodiac. It is not their "sign" that has made them that way.
Sagittarian men that aren't players or all messed up with "issues"......are really just misunderstood by the rest of us folks in the remaining 11 signs of the zodiac. Sag's do value their freedom....as in they do not want to feel confined, fenced in or controlled by another. They do feel they have a lot to offer...and most do ( most people no matter the sign have a lot to offer...if given the chance to show it). They will not "settle" down with a woman, until they feel that they are "understood" by the other person...they will not settle down if they don't feel you offer value to their lives ...they will not settle down if they don't feel they offer value to your life and they 100% will NOT settle down with you...if they do not respect you. Sag's have high morals and high standards for themselves....they sometimes stress themselves out beyond what is "normal" because they like to be the best...they like to learn/do something to it best and to its fullest. You don't have to have the same high standards and morals...they dont expect you do be just like them....and you dont have to be the best. If you have no real morals...dont stand behind what you say...try to deceive them...back them into a corner....and really have no plan or direction in your life....you will not keep a Sag for long though. Sag's respect people that are open and honest with them...they respect that even if your opinion is different then there's...that you are strong enough to stand behind what you say/believe in. It is largely because of this...that many Sag men are in fact single...they will not settle for just "anyone". They may have fun with "anyone" though, till the find someone that they feel is valuable enough to keep.
If you are successful enough to get into a relationship with a Sag...as mentioned many times before in this thread....they will do many things for you...and gladly without even a second thought. Sag's...male and female...can be very self-absorbed....but really do not honestly realize it till it is pointed out to them. If someone of value points out any flaws in their character....and goes about it the right way...they again...respect that...and do try to make a conscious effort to be more aware. Ultimately....if with a Sag ...it is inevitable that there will be moments of self-absorption....but they are easily brought back to earth...and truly don't mean to offend anyone. To keep a Sag from straying away from you..once he is yours....you must always keep him on his toes....they do bore easily...and like adventure. They will be forever loyal to you....and forever yours...if you respect them, understand them and value them...only if you yourself though....respect yourself, understand yourself and value yourself. If you ever lose any of those qualities....you can start counting the days it will be before he walks out the door and doesnt look back. Once a Sag is completely "done" with you....once you lose their respect.....good luck every earning it back.
So if it happens to be true that there are more Sag's online then any other sign ( which I dont doubt )..it is not just that they are players...or looking to be eternal bachelors. It is more that a woman has not yet truly understood him....a woman has not fully earned his respect...a woman has not yet managed to light his fire. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:56:53 PM | | i`m sorry someone had a bad experience with a sag,but i`m not sure if it`s directed towards just the men sags or women,,but you have you good and bad apples in anything and everything,,maybe someone is just male bashing or ex bashing im` not sure,but they really need to move on with their lives,,,,i myself can say that,,i`m a sag and i feel can be very romantic and ,,we tend to be very comitted to the 1 person,,atleast i was for 18 yrs,,so mayb some of you shouldn`t be so prejudice,,there are alot of good guys out,,rgardless of sign or anything else,,,good luck in lifes venture,,,,take care all....signed a good hearted sag........ | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:02:04 PM | | hello,,i just wanted to say thank you to privatenites and naturelover70,,it`s good to that not all sag men are being bashed,,,,,take care........ | |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:26:43 PM | | this is in regard to msg 49 sarah02,,i was wondering if you was the one he cheated on his wife with and what was the other womans sign..it just seams like people always want to say some guy cheated..hmm,guess what ,,,so did the other woman,,,,i`m sure she probably also cheated on someone...i mean why is it always looked at as the guy cheated what about the woman that was involved also,,ok,,i feel better have a nice day..lol.. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 4:07:36 AM | Not a problem at all SETUPMAN, I speak the truth .
I need to retract an earlier post though about Sag males not showing their emotions or feelings. I was very very impressed with what my Sag did last night.
I have a thread going on "24 hrs of magic ...ideal dream date" and his post last night was a total shock because he definitely showed me his emotions through his post on there.
He made it a point to let me know that he really has been listening and paying attention to what it is that I am passionate about (when I didn't think he was lol) and that if he could he would fulfill all of my desires.
SAG MEN TOTALLY ROCK..........romantic, funny, sweet, caring, lover of animals and people, very giving, .........I could go on, but will stop. lol
Enjoy the day and ......SMILE.
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Posted: 3/2/2006 4:39:10 AM | This post has given me insight into the friendship I have with a Sag...I've been reading through it thinking to myself 'OMG, that is so him'! Maddeningly brilliant, charismatic, obliviously selfish and everything on his terms, damnably good in bed...and single, lol.
The problem for me is not the Sagittarian man, but that I'm irresistibly drawn to him in spite of these traits and the emotional wounds that are inflicted!
Perhaps we should start a support group?  | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 6:07:46 AM | | Ok now just hang on a second here. Enough with the sag. man bashing. Ok so some of our ranks have treated women badly. I know some of my own mates who are sag's are prime examples of what some of you ladies are talking about. But the fact of the matter is that we are not all like that. Every sign has strenths and weakness's and it just so happens that I've had a very bad run with cancer women. But that doesnt mean I'm going to stay the hell away from a girl the minute I find out what her star sign is. Thats just stupid. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 6:30:36 AM | Why you should ask,cause of woman like you who beleive in that bullcrap.GO READ YOUR NEWSPAPER AND SEE IF YOU SHOULD WAKE-UP TODAY
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| The problem with Sagittarian men
Posted: 3/2/2006 6:46:57 AM | I would have to totally agree with you....being another
Sagittariun Woman I would and will agree with every statement that you have made...Saggitariun Men and Women are open...honest...sensual...ertoic and have the ability to see the real person at first glance...I have noticed that the only person suitable for anothere Sagittariun man or woman is another Sagittariun partner....but all you others out there should really try to get on board with us at some point beacuse you have no idea of the incredible SEX that you are missing out on.......and the intellegence to know how to use it. I have never found a Saggitariun male that I did'nt like...want...or need........
If you truly want to know a Sagittariun then listen up...
We are.......Honest....Loyal...Flirtaceous....Sensual..Erotic..Intellegent...Earthy...Mind Readers...and sooooooooo much more........
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Posted: 3/2/2006 6:50:51 AM |  I couldn't agree with you more!! lol You are soooo right in what you are saying! We Sags are 1 of a kind and we are what we are--truthful, honest and PLAYFUL. We get bored easily on account of our intelligence is too high! The "games" people play get old real quick.  I have never participated in this forum before, but after reading this, I had to. Sagittarian men have a problem alright....it's being too popular and women get jealous, show their insecurities and call us players. Hey, why not, an example being- you test drive a car before you buy it, right? You try the pants on before you buy them to see if they're a good fit, right? Why can't other people see this logic? Now you think you're being categorized right? Hmmm....lol...Why were we Sagittarian men picked out of the lineup anyway and not all "fire sign" men. I think because we do have the happy go lucky attitude and we're fun to be with as long as you give us our space. This whole subject has hit a wild nerve in me and it makes me just shake my head....lmao!! Everyone is different in their own way.  I'm getting in my later years and still find it difficult to keep a long lasting relationship because of most women being so "clingy" and wanting to have the story book romance that is only in story books. Wake up!! This is reality. I'm sure there will be ALOT of people talking about this and also feathers will be ruffled! I love it! We Sags should speak out alot more!!  | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 9:12:17 AM | ****DON12858:
That's right you speak up for yourself and glad to see you've tried out the forums. This is an excellent thread, because yes every Sag likes to talk about themselves and what incredible things we have to offer.
I agree with you wholeheartedly about Sag males needing to find the right woman before commiting, it will take a special someone to hold their interest as it is always flying from one thing to the next. I say this because I am a Sag female and I know that it will take someone really unique to hold my interest. Personally I find so far that only Sag males can meet me on a mental and creative level.
Two Sag's will never be too clingy with each other.......because they totally understand the need for space , freedom , and individuality.
to all!
Rock on Saggitarians.........we have the vision and know how to use it. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2006 9:18:59 AM | this is a cool thread and now i know why i cant spell its a sag trait too. It sort of makes me feel normal and understood, thats something people have trouble with but when they take the time to really know us they love us. We want to make a difference and dislike procastionation. We are non conformists and believe rules are made to be broken especially if its fun and some uptight moron finds it offensive. We want to live and love and experience every possible pleasure there is. We are very emotional and yet have the abbility to bounce back and fight the fight back out of the black hole. And guess what WE GET HURT AND FEEL EXTREME HEART ACHE TOO. And as we are optomists we grow and learn from it and use it to help others who are in pain. We are the first to help those who are doing the best to help themselves and who would do the same for us. We are all as vulnerable to love, pain,rejection
bad people who use our need for sex to manipulate and trap us into more commitment and then try to control us. As the guy above said we welcome constructive critism as we cant see how others see us and we sure dish it out. When we find the stong sensual mentally stimulating soul mate we desire we turn into a love sick teenager and we can be very romantic and caring so if your strong enough to take risks find a sag and your ride will change for ever on this magical mystery tour called life.:          | |
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| The awesomeness of a Sagittarian
Posted: 3/2/2006 2:06:49 PM | EXCELLENT CHANGE: Saggitarians are very awesome and very cool!!!!
Really enjoyed this thread, and would like to hear more from Sag males.......give me a better idea of what I am dealing with in a partner lol
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Posted: 3/2/2006 2:17:05 PM | I was in a relationship ( not just dating ) a sag man... and he was controlling, liked
to argue, was calculating, possesive and manipulitive.
If he wasn't so good looking I would maybe have noticed sooner. Lesson learned the hard
way and not likely to be repeated.
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Posted: 3/2/2006 2:28:14 PM | CrazyJesster... I am a sag female and I have the worst time with cancer males...
and it seems its always the male cancers that seem to want to date me..
I won't turn one down because of his sign..but when the whinning and clingy starts I am reminded why cancers drive me crazy..
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Posted: 3/2/2006 2:46:12 PM | | Finally a true Sag speaks out! Being a Sag myself, and married to a Sag, she will agree with everything you said.lol | |
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