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 thundergod71

Joined: 1/31/2006
Msg: 26
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 12:41:43 PM
I'm sorry, but most of you don't have a clue what your talking about. Fidgeting, shifting, face touching, all of these things can be signs of deception; but they can also be signs of many, many other things and the only way to know what they indicate for sure is to develop an understanding of the individual.

People, please stop looking for the easy, beat all end all miracle lie detector....THERE'S JUST NO SUCH THING!!!

Also, if you go into it expecting that you'll be lied to, then that's most likely what you'll percieve. Go into it with an open mind and open ears. Listen closely and carefully to everything he/she tells you. In time, if the person is a liar, you'll catch them......but for God's sake--don't start pushing people away because they're nervous, twitchy or restless. Many people that exhibit these behaviors will loosen up over time and prove to be honest, trustworthy individuals.
 thundergod71

Joined: 1/31/2006
Msg: 27
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 12:44:47 PM
Ms Adventure is right on the money. Listen to her people!!!!
 nymphoeorpata

Joined: 1/24/2006
Msg: 28
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 12:53:02 PM
I must have this built in and use it subconiusly. I just caught a guy in a lie last night and just kept giving him "the look". I was finding holes in each story he came up with and eventually he confessed. Why do people not understand that telling the truth is alot easier then trying to build that trust again?
 oddsocks

Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 29
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 11:57:40 PM
the eyes have it....try it yourself

also you can not remember a lie but truth has a history so liars always come undone, it takes a little while at times
 louispointe

Joined: 8/9/2005
Msg: 30
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To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/16/2006 8:14:19 AM

also you can not remember a lie but truth has a history so liars always come undone, it takes a little while at times


That is very much true. If you have a good memory, you may notice that certain details about the liers stories tend to shift and change over time. They often forget the details about what they told you a long time ago, and hence screw up and tell you something contradictory.

Also, it helps to keep in mind that often liers don't out and out lie. Rather, usually what they do is massage the truth into a more palatable or interesting version. If it's just exaggeration for the point of a good story, no big deal ... but if it's changing details for their own nefarious purposes, that's a ****. Example: I was out till 11 with Sam, when you were really out till 3 with Sam AND Nicole.

If you want to lie successfully it helps if you have a good memory.
:)
 CANADIAN BELLE

Joined: 10/12/2005
Msg: 31
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/16/2006 4:01:26 PM
Neuro linguistics.. the eyes shift a certain way when a guy is lying..
 sunshineface03

Joined: 3/5/2006
Msg: 32
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/28/2006 5:28:07 PM
someone was emailing me last week and we were getting along.

Emailed him back on Friday wishing him a good weekend.

He never responded (which is fine. I didn't care about that), but I saw that he had been on the forums during the weekend as I saw a few of his postings by accident.

But here's the part that bugs me: He emails me today and said he hadn't been on all weekend and was only now able to check his emails.

Man, don't lie. I don't care that you didn't respond right off. I'm a grown-up and can take it. Why lie?
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 33
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/28/2006 7:28:04 PM
I dont know if I buy this. My little brother is a master liar. He do it without looking to either side, staring you in the eye, straight faced.

So could my ex...
 tiffs_popular_22fca

Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 34
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/29/2006 8:10:46 AM
lying online isn't that far out there. Old news.

Unless your meeting the guy anytime soon, you just gotta take people at face value on here since we can't really prove beyond a doubt anything they say.
 verysweet

Joined: 1/31/2006
Msg: 35
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:26:24 AM
The "eye thing" may not be true with some as for me i have a cyst on my brain so can't always look up the left. Does this mean i am always lying because i look to the right, i am not and the thought that someone could think that i am always lying is very troublesome for me. I really hope that there are people out there who do not believe this.
 steak79

Joined: 2/1/2006
Msg: 36
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/29/2006 9:04:40 AM
Don't worry sweet - anybody that would buy in to the theory of distinguishing decisively between fact & fiction entirely based on something as arbitrary as eye or hand movement is either:

1 - someone you sould be avoiding in the first place, or
2 - going to be gullible enough to buy into an equally idiotic theory (try: you were born in the southern hemisphere, so toilets drain backward, and liars look to left)

I contemplated this theory for a while - began smacking everyone I talked to whenever they looked to the right when speaking. Anyone hiring?
 verysweet

Joined: 1/31/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:10:34 AM
Wow would i ever get smaked around in you presence,lol, yeesh. And i wouldn't even be lying.
 denimandlace46

Joined: 11/26/2005
Msg: 38
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/29/2006 9:29:25 AM
Thank you thundergod!

Montreal Guy, myself also being left handed I tend to use my left more than my right no matter what i'm doing!

Geesh! IMHO, the only way to tell is to catch them in a lie.
 Bikeman_

Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 39
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:27:11 AM

Neuro linguistics.. the eyes shift a certain way when a guy is lying..

For bad liars, yes. Good liars won't do this, lying to them is an art form. A good liar will trick you if this is the only thing you do to detect their lies. I read this in an article. Really!
 kindheartedgentleman

Joined: 4/13/2006
Msg: 40
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 4/27/2006 1:37:57 AM
I have a great trick to catch liars. If you have a conversation with someone say for example the person tells you they are an atty. Later on in the conversation change it and say something like 'OH IT MUST BE EXHAUSTING BEING A ' DOCTOR' . You can catch people on age too by changing the age or many other things for that matter. Its a great trick .
 ~kasie~

Joined: 12/26/2007
Msg: 41
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 1:45:42 PM

How about give that person a reason to lie and see if he/she will?


In my opinion...it works EVERY time. Tried and true method for me..





Also, it helps to keep in mind that often liers don't out and out lie. Rather, usually what they do is massage the truth into a more palatable or interesting version. If it's just exaggeration for the point of a good story, no big deal ... but if it's changing details for their own nefarious purposes, that's a ****. Example: I was out till 11 with Sam, when you were really out till 3 with Sam AND Nicole.


I also agree on this one.

I had (the massage the truth) this version happen very recently..He said he had told someone it was over when in fact, he simply was NOT taking her calls or returning them.. makes sense to me for sure..!!!!!!

 kevinmach

Joined: 3/29/2007
Msg: 42
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Posted: 3/24/2008 2:09:55 PM
Don't succumb to media hype about fool proof tests and miracle lie detecters. There's just no such thing. Every single person is completely different and their reactions, even the unconcius ones, have been shaped by their own unique experiences and personality.


This is partially true-there are patterns in individuals with certain types of personalities, but they certainly are not universal. The idea of your eyes to access different parts of the brain in not a new concept, and the material I've read on it observes it in regard to determining someone's personality type, more than it acts in accordance applying the same rules to everyone. In other words, eye movement could be useful in the context of that particular individual, but it's not the same for everyone you meet.

I.E. Information thats good to know, but dangerous when offered as a universal method to determine peoples intention.

Incidentally, the left/brain right theory and it link are starting to be abandon by many in the last 5-10 years, in favor of a upper brain and lower brain theory, suggesting this relationship is far more important, and that too much emphasis has been placed on left/right in the past. Not sure what effect this has on what has been posted here, but nonetheless serves the purpose pointing out that none of this is vert cutting edge.
 outofthedesert

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 43
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:18:26 PM
For some people if the mouth is open and sound is coming out----it's a lie.
 Mister Incognito

Joined: 3/3/2008
Msg: 44
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:19:38 PM
*note to self* : When lying my ass off, look to the right.. point with right hand.


Thanks for the tip!
 Mister Incognito

Joined: 3/3/2008
Msg: 45
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:32:59 PM
One last addition..

OP : When i read your post i noticed two things :


1) The beginning of your sentences started on the left side of the page and we had to read them going from left to right.

2) Also, in your post... your nickname and spot where your picture should be is located on the left.


thats why i know you're lying... and...





It seems the only people to ever dispute this are indeed liars.


so don't bother disputing it.

 TrialSize

Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 46
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To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 3:02:09 PM
Sorry OP but the info you are supplying is dated and has already been debunked. As many other posters have stated there is no universal language of the body therefore all body language cannot be interpreted the same way.

I think that if you know someone well enough you may be able to pick up on nervousness or contradictory info, but not always.

That's why I don't trust a guy again once I have caught him in a lie. If he was willing to act without integrity once, he'll do it again. I have better things to do with my time than become a detective.
 HappyGirl5668

Joined: 12/8/2006
Msg: 47
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/24/2008 3:15:50 PM
Interesting stuff. I have "lazy eye". I look up and to the right a lot because it's the part of my field of vision where my eyes work well together. No wonder people trust me!
 silentwhisper54

Joined: 4/18/2007
Msg: 48
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Posted: 3/24/2008 5:23:48 PM
Perhaps someone on this thread could tell me . . . are there any good free sites to do international background checks?
 SlyKnight

Joined: 1/21/2007
Msg: 49
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/25/2008 6:30:24 AM
The eye-thing is extremely unreliable at best... for a start there are six directions you need to look at, not two.

Up & left - Visually constructed
Up & right - visually remembered
Left - auditory remembered
Right - auditory constructed
Down & left - feeling/kinesthetic
Down & right - Intenal Dialog

For some people the six locations are switched around, and for some people there's no reliable or consistent correlation at all. The best you can say is that most people are consistent over time, and most people also follow those directions.

From there, you *still* can't really assume that one is a lie and one isn't. Suppose someone tells a lie by taking an existing true story and asking themselves how to adapt it. What might you get? Up and to the right, perhaps down and to the right?

What if they are telling the truth and imagining how they felt at the time... down and to the left?

Left = lies and right= truth is a vast oversimplification.

It's a nice party trick which will work often, but never rely on it for anything that's actually important to you.

Edit: And everything thundergod said.
 So2Speak

Joined: 1/21/2008
Msg: 50
To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/25/2008 6:44:22 AM
Why would anyone want to let the TRUTH get in the way of a good LIE...

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