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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/3/2006 11:03:17 PM | I wish I could sound outraged, but I have leather parts to my shoes and I'm
no vegan either.
WWF (world wildlife fund) is supporting this?!?! WTF? I heard that on Larry King tonight.
Anyway, PM Harper sent his representative to Larry King and expressed his
full support for the hunt. This won't change during Harper's REGIME. | |
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Joined: 12/17/2005
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 12:53:30 AM | The fur trade is brutal around the world. The standard with "fur farms" is to shove red hot pokers up the anuses of sables, ermines and chinchillas, for example, to kill them and not ruin the fur. It is not standard to stun them or snap their necks before administering the lethal poker. This is just as disgusting and painful as clubbing baby seals on the head and sometimes skinning them while they are still alive. The best way to kill the fur trade is to kill the demand for fur. Stop buying animal products. Of course, there is a down side to killing the fur trade.
Even when the seal fur industry in Canada was supposedly shut down in the 90's due to fur purchasing bans, the hunt went on. The Canadian government sanctioned the hunts to cull the seal herds and protect them against disease and starvation. (As mentioned earlier, this had to do with depleted fish stocks along the Grand Banks and Canadian inland shores.) Unfortunately, the carcasses rotted and the pelts were destroyed. The hunt goes on, whether the pelts and meat are bought or not.
I'd like to point out that animals are treated inhumanely in the agricultural industry as well. Slaughterhouses, do not always outright kill the animals selected for termination. They have stun guns, which sometimes work and sometimes don't. It is not unheard of, for cows to wake up as they are being skinned and gutted. Horrible to consider, but true. All the regulations in the world won't prevent some tragedies like this from happening.
As to the cottage industry farmers such as chicken ranchers, it is not unusual for farmers to snap the necks of chicks who they find unsuitable for rearing. They will slit the throats of pigs, hand them upside down on meat hooks and let them bleed to death, sometimes skinning them while they are still alive. Then there is the force feeding of baby cows and ducks to produce certain types of gourmet cuts of meat. What kind of life does a baby cow have who is crated from the moment it is born, and force fed through a tube in its throat?
Then, we can move onto animal research. I've done journalistic stories on this. Animal research facilities raise their own animals. I've seen cages full of kittens bred at the facility, who were selected for brutal testing regimes and eventual termination. I've seen monkeys in restraints, with their brains exposed. I've seen dogs undergo surgeries where they were purposefully allowed to die during the surgeries. I've seen pain studies done on higher life forms, like pigs. These tests are supposed to benefit mankind, just like the fur industry is supposed to clothe us and the agricultural industry is supposed to feed us.
So, what can we do to improve the quality of these animals lives and deaths? Pressure our governments to find more humane ways to deal with these industries, become vegetarians and refuse to wear animal products. We can't get rid of these industries...but we can make them more humane.
How many of you have put your money where your mouth is? I still wear leather shoes and coats and have wondered if I should stop doing this. I eat meat which I sometimes purchase from local farmers who I know treat their animals with dignity. I never wear real fur products anymore. I will not use makeup or other hygiene products that test their products on animals. I do use medicines that have been tested on animals. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:36:30 AM | I do not support the use of animal pelts as decorative fashion for humans. The consumer demand for fur needs to be addressed to deal with this problem.
The only justifiable circumstances (in my view) in which pelts are used for clothing are subsistance situations, when the animal is used for food as well.
Faux fur is so well done these days that we don't need to take animals' lives away for the sole purpose of making an exotic fashion statement.
Any situation in which an animal's life is taken for exploitation of just one part of its body is disgusting.
Leave the fur on the animals.
Leave the ivory on the elephants.
Leave the gallbladders in the bears.
Leave the hands on the gorillas.
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Joined: 2/28/2006
Msg: 54 | |
| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 2:51:48 AM | What do vegetarians/vegans gain by protesting animal rights? Self satisfaction. Grow up a bit. You're probably the same kind of person who believes BS the phamphlets about the slaughterhouses.
Obviously there's going to be cases of people doing things in sickening ways, and those are the cases that get publicised...not everyone follows the rules now do they? So while you're at it, how bout start protesting killing everything that breathes. Danny Williams, as much as I don't like him, said that if you put a white sheet down you're going to seee the blood, obviously it looks bad up there.
You may not swallow the gov't 'bs', but you sure do seem to swallow bs that comes from not-so-credible sources. And this comes from someone who's actually got some knowledge about the hunt, not someone who just wants to argue for arguments sake. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 3:09:29 AM | We've seen what happens when the hunt is not allowed to go on....fish stocks plummetted to the point where people were out of work...not just fishing, but canneries, and the transportation industry, not to mention all the spin-off jobs lost. Sure...a lot of fishing goes on...we have to feed ourselves, and the European nations have their quotas allowed by the Canadian gov't at the expense of Canadian fishermen. BUT...with uncontrolled seal populations, the whole industry went down the drain. We have to think about this one carefully....the hunt IS limited in number, allowing fish stocks to grow, which allows more jobs for the region. What else can they do? The gov't tried to develope new jobs there...they built hydroponic greenhouses, which were supposed to employ 25-100 people. Whee.....thrills there, huh? The jobs paid minimum wage and there was no huge market for the produce...so it was a dismal flop. The oil industry gets pilloried for opening up new resources off the coast, and again, there are only so many jobs, and often, the locals do not get these jobs...labour is imported because they want "experienced" people only.
When the means justifies the end then we can only try to come up with something that satifies both sides of the issue...
I am a hunter but am appalled that there is not a better way to solve the problem of over population... But I also know what over population can do and an example is when the seals food source is diminished a clubbing is not as cruel as starvation... What will we say when a whole industry (fishing) is wiped out because we saved the seal? Will we then turn our rage towards the fishing industry for not supplying us with that which we require to sustain our need for fish products?
I did think the clubbing stopped and was replaced with a single shot, off memory, is that wrong? What is the correct answer? If you do not try to find one then all this spouting off only lites the fuse of discord not defuse it...
I have no answer so I let those who are in the know make the decision or those with a better mind/idea work their magic to alleviate what many consider an act of barbaric proportions...
Have a nice day 
BTW
No problem, Hezron. Trigger words, 'tis all. Was afraid another thread would get swallowed.
I'll reserve judgement on the Iraq comparison. No 'innocents' are being sought out to be killed in Iraq, IMO, and non are killed in the name of fashion.
Bush is doing it for oil.
Oil is the wrong answer... His place in history would be closer to the truth and what has transpired I dare say is not the result he envisioned  | |
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 3:14:27 AM | #1 - maybe a moderator needs to step in and stop the people from ****ing abut the iraq war!! Yes it is bad but if you want to **** about it then start your own thread!!! That is not what this thread is about.
#2 - I eat meat.. I have no problem with raising animals for FOOD or even clothes but there is no reason to torture an animal! If you must kill the creature then do it and get it over with. What I read about this seal hunt is horrible. It seems some of the these men are just cruel people who have a chance to take out their bully attitude on these baby seals. I cannot understand how a person knowing a creature is suffering not care. I'd like to hook one of them!
I can't believe that just a FEW people are doing the clubbing and torture, if there were people taking pictures and those men went ahead and did what they were doing then obviously it didn't matter and there are NO RULES to this hunt. I've seen other people in Alaska and other countries who also hunt seals and it's like they do not think these creatures have feelings. I do not understand how anyone cannot be bothered when they are causing that much pain to anything, I do not care how cute it is!! yes they are cute but that has nothing to do with my thoughts on it. If it was a baboon that this was happening to I'd be just as upset. Why don't the Canadians stop this? Usually if there is enough bad publicity it will eventually get stopped.
As far as the people would do something different.. I don't think so.. I think these men get too much enjoyment out of LEGAL CRUELTY. How else can they make money so easily as to walk up to a defenseless seal pup.. hit it over the head and get paid for it... I think some of you people are full of BS!! To even think this is ok. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 3:24:55 AM | well id rather be a seal pup than a lobster
keep you in a tank,wait for someone to choose you then put you in boiling water alive
or a fish being pulled up by a hook to the mouth,
but i guess they arent real pretty,so it doesnt matter.
still doesnt make them any less intelligent than a seal.
thats what is always wrong with the argument,its always the pretty element.
we kill shearwaters[migratory sea bird lives on krill] over here
pull them from their burrows and ring their necks,they are dead in around 3 seconds
the animal liberationists are onto this now.most states with bigger city populations have stopped duck season over here as well now.i wonder if the commercial interests are financially backing some of these groups. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 3:39:41 AM | | I agree about the poor lobster.. I have always thought that was mean and cruel. I think it is overrated anyways.. I just as soon eat good shrimp.. and they are dead before the boiling water or grease. I fish.. and I'll hunt too... it is just the way certain animals are killed that bothers me. I used to raise rabbits for food.. but I did research and found the most humane way to kill them. I petted the older rabbits.. let kids play with them as pets too. I'm not a vegetarian and probably never will be. I know animals will be killed, they should just be treated better. I never heard of the shearwaters... | |
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Ooli
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Joined: 12/17/2005
Msg: 59 | |
| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 3:46:35 AM | | Btw...the seal pup cull in Canada has been illegal since the '80s, according to a news report I saw last night. The government sanctioned seal hunt is for adult seals. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 3:47:28 AM | Canada's 2003-2006 Seal Hunt Plan
The harp seal hunt is sometimes represented as a part of Canada's culture, not unlike indigenous whaling, but in truth, it is just another commercial hunt. Canada's Department of Fisheries and Oceans reports issuing 11,185 commercial sealing licenses in 2001. The seals are killed for their pelts, their penises (which are used to make aphrodisiacs in Asian markets), oil (which Canada promotes as a health supplement), and meat.
The country's commercial seal hunting season runs from November 15 to May 15, but hunters do most of their killing in the spring. At the beginning of the season, hunters use a club or a large ice-pick-like hakapik to kill the younger seals. As the season progresses, hunters switch to rifles for both young and old seals.
If the above numbers do not wake us up to the truth then nothing will...
NOT a few, as some have posted, but 11,185 licenses sold in the year 2001...
Nothing is wasted, as some have posted... But I am sure, as in any industry there is waste, that is a given...
Canada's Ministry of Fisheries and Oceans' three-year seal-hunt quota allows fishermen to kill 975,000 harp seals over the three years; in two of those three years, sealers may kill as many as 350,000 harp seals annually. This means hunters can kill 75,000 more seals a year, starting in 2003, than in the last five years.
975,000 is a number that screams of over population...
I saw somewhere, not sure where, that if these seals looked like rats there would not be a problem "kill them all", but as is with the Bambi crowd way of thinking, if it has a cute face and looks all cuddly then we must stop the carnage...
Nature is far more cruel then humans can ever be... Just a fact... I am not happy that clubs or spikes are uses I'll say that much. I also understand if they built a huge slaughter house up there and simply did their job behind closed doors then this discussion would be very minimal at best.......
It is, again, far better to come up with a viable solution then to go off uneducated in the matter at hand as many here have done...
Still after all is said and done there must be a better way then clubs and spikes... I hunt too and love nature almost to the point of it being religious but clubs and spikes goes against the grain... | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 4:00:22 AM | | I agree.. If there are too many of the seals then they will suffer anyway.. starve or cause deseases. It is just the way it is done, I think the Gov should regulate it more and if people do not use all the seal (pelt, meat, oil) then they should have their licenses taken away the next year. If they kill the seals with clubs or picks ... skin them alive or anything else that is unethical and considered cruel.. then they should have to skip a year!!! there should be laws and regulations should be abided by. I bet if they didn't make that money for a year they would follow rules!! | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 8:50:43 AM | "how can you be so upset over the seal when you condone the slaughtering of human beings"
The seals aren't committing any terrorists acts that I have heard of.
And oddsocks, a friend refused to take me to one of those restaurants where you pick your own live lobster because,"I know you. You would give it a name, put a leash on it, and take it home as a pet before you would let them boil your new buddy." And yes, he followed that up by a considerable amount of laughter. I know I am a sucker for critters, so I wasn't mad, he was right. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 12:30:35 PM | That is how I hunt... I harvest all my game with the intention of a clean ethical kill shot... I still wonder if they were rats or snakes would we still hear this outcry and outrage???
I fear not!!
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 12:58:27 PM | Well I believe that there is a place in this world for all of God's creatures...right next to the mashed potatoes..Ok having said that, I obviously have no problem with the harvesting of any animal for food,pelts or any product of use that gives people jobs,puts food on tables or makes products people use, IF as Ticket stated, those animals are not endangered.However one thing I've learned living in the sunshine state is that you really have to watch those numbers and question their accuracy.Back in the '60's in Florida the number of alligators was erroneously counted and there was a moratorium on killing gators for about 20 years.This resulted in a massive alligator population explosion and today in Florida they are a nusicance,not to mention the fact that the moratorium messed up a livliehood for many Floridian families.
My only question concerning the seal hunts is why use the method of clubbing them and skinning them alive?Cruelty aside, it seems grossly ineficient.I'm not a hunter nor do I work in the meat or fur industries, but my dad worked all aspects of the meat trade and I have a cousin in Alaska who is a game warden.Both gentlemen will tell you that meat is best, if the animal is killed,cleaned and dressed as instantaneously as possible so the glands aren't left to be pumping hormones and other bodily chemicals through the meat. It would seem to me that if the seals are shot through the head by say a .22,wouldn't that leave less damage on the pelt than clubbing it over the head?Furthermore,if the animal is dead and limp,wouldn't skinning it be easier this way than if it is still alive and thrashing?What am I missing? | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 12:59:18 PM | | Read the news. They most certainly do still club them to death. It much cheaper than shooting them. Who buys these furs anyway? I've never seen even a picture of someone wearing baby harp seal fur. But it doesn't stop here nor is this method of killing unique to Canada. The standard method of killing cows and hogs in the U.S. is a blow to the head with a sledge hammer."Cuz Oscar Meyer's got a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a." | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:02:33 PM | Well I believe that there is a place in this world for all of God's creatures...right next to the mashed potatoes
I just had to say that made me laugh so hard. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:05:26 PM | It much cheaper than shooting them.
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Someone's not thinking like a businessman here.If you sent some guys out armed with.22 rifles, you could send fewer guys who could kill more seals in less time than more guys with clubs.Depending on how good the shooter is,one guy, armed with a cheap .22 semi automatic rifle could bag around 10 to 12 seals in less than a minute.That would make for fewer guys with less on the payroll.Are these guys union?Then that would explain it, job security. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:10:05 PM | McCartney's wife did have a point: there is a boycott on Canadian sea-food, I
believe it's the lobster - a $100 mill industry. If that's boycotted over a measly $12 mill in pelts, why do we continue with the seal hunt? Maybe it's a political blame game - let's blame
the lack of fish/cod on the seals and not blame the fishermen and gov't that
allowed the depletion. Economically, it's a loss - this is a political posture to gain
votes....it's simply not making sense in Canada's interests to allow this to happen.
That seems to make the most sense - polls count more than common-sense.
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Posted: 3/4/2006 1:20:45 PM | Well, I seem to yet again be on the fence! The methods of killing really are dependant on the reasons of killing in the first place. All killing morally and sensibly would be swift. The build up of lactic acid (caused by stress of fear and other causes), is not good for the quality of meat. Being that bussiness' are involved, they have a bottom line regarding finances, ie costs. Thats would explain a possible reason for not using firearms, which they do as a follow-up method for 'mercy'. As for many of the prior posts references, one really needs to take a good think. It has been proven that persons conducting studies are influenced by where their pay is coming from, even if the intent is to be objective.
As for the arguement about being humane,.... lol! Well, we humans are no better than a pack of wolves anyways,... so whatever humans do, really is what humane is! And given population figures,.... maybe we are the ones that should be 'culled'? Not trying to hijack the thread, but isn't that what Hitler, Stalin, Polpot etc. were doing? Maybe what they did was "good"? What kind of diseases would exist and afflict our society if the prior culling of humans didn't occur?
I do support the seal hunting, but in a moral method. In a humane way? I think anyone using that term is really being subversive and is following anothers lead. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 2:18:44 PM | I do support the seal hunting, but in a moral method. In a humane way? I think anyone using that term is really being subversive and is following anothers lead.
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What surprises me is that in this day and age of technology replacing humans for economic reasons, no one has invented a quick,safe, economical way to mass kill a number of seals in order to get as many pelts as possible in as little amount of time.I shouldn't think it would be too difficult.Stick some electrodes in the ice and send a charge through?Gas them??Clubbing just seems so ineficient. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 2:29:40 PM | Umm can I point out that the seals destroy the economy because the seals are endangering the cod fish and lobster industries?
Also those whitecoat adorable seals that all the celebrities who are against the seal hunt pose with have not be included in the seal hunt since 1987 when hunting the whitecoat seals became illegal.
A 2002 study by the Canadian Veterinary Journal found that 98% of the seals were killed in a humane fashion.
The fact that Paul McCartney and his wife are freaking about it disgusts me. Comment on Canadian politics if you must, but at least know what the hell you're talking about. | |
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 2:30:35 PM | Well I believe that there is a place in this world for all of God's creatures...right next to the mashed potatoes..
That's my Man !!! Gotta think with your Stomach too ... 
As an aside ... we slumped back into the couch on a quiet Sunday evening with a bucket of popcorn in our laps where PBS illustrated a pack of Hyenas ripping down and eating a live Water Buffalo. And if the Show demonstrated the coverage really well, we said "WOW" ... the gorier, the more realistic, thre better. That's life, thats reality.
My only question concerning the seal hunts is why use the method of clubbing them and skinning them alive?
There is no such approved method of skinning them alive, but unqualified Hunters doing a job they know not of. Its a training problem. Both courses and certification should be mandatory.
It would seem to me that if the seals are shot through the head by say a .22,wouldn't that leave less damage on the pelt than clubbing it over the head?
A bullet that misses by a inch can give the appearance the Seal is dead when in fact only severely injured and stunned. A competent and experienced clubber will crush the skull everytime, 'missing' any vital point on the skull not an Issue. Again, it really comes down to experienced personal. Further, People that go to work being drunk, on drugs, sick, tired, etc. could also be expected to screw up, but that is not exclusive to Seal Hunting only. | |
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 3/4/2006 2:31:12 PM | Canada, still a youthful country in the eyes of many of the leading developed nations of the world, has come under attack in the recent years for reinstating it's annual seal pup hunt. The controversy, now brought to light again by Paul McCartney's involvement as a spokesperson for Animal Rights groups, has again brought this Canadian tradition under scrutiny by the internation community, opening the quiet, polite nation up for criticism and vehemenent reactions from people distanced from the event.
The hunt, often referred sensationally as a 'cull' or 'slaughter' has been depicted by advocate groups with aptly described images of cruelty and stomach turning acts of 'barbarism.' As inciteful as the images may be, as horrific as the specific choice moments brought to the world arena, they are not typical results of the hunt, and the language and images used to describe the events are often taken out of context. It is not my intention to outright justify this event, nor to lead a return barrage attacks on those that are attempting to interfere with our domestic issues. The address of this is to point out some of the other sides to this issue, to give out a fairer assessment of the activites that go on here in Canada.
One of the first arguments that has been brought to attention was the issue of cod, both as a comparsion to the hunt, and for reasons for the hunt. Cod, since Canada's inception as a colony, has been a strong drawing force for settlers and industry here in Canada. When adventurers first ventured through the Grand Banks off of our maritimes coast, the fish were literally choking there surface they were so plentiful. It was postulated in theory that the decline in their stocks was due to the over population of the seals in the area, however, unpon investigation it was concluded that it was a matter of human overfishing. Canada's governent has taken several strong steps to protect those fish stocks, and encourage their regrowth. Full towns, reliant on this industry have been shut down and abandoned because of the Governments commitment to this. They have essentially shut down the fishing industry in the Maritimes, limiting the fishing to such low levels that it is hardly worthwhile at this point. Most now survive on lobster, as well as catching other fish stocks (now similarly regulated). Canada has even gone so far as to impound and arrest foriegn fisheries that have attempted to circumvent Canada's authority on it's own shores. Statistics and reports have shown that it has been the actions of European nations such as Spain that have heavily contributed to the near extinction of the Canadian Cod. Canada has shown a growing responsibility towards the resources and stocks of the wildlife under it's care.
In keeping with taking a more educated approach to the hunting and fishery industries under it's duristiction, Canada has outlined strict and descriptive regulations governing not only the seal hunt, but all activities in this regard. The 'cull', as it has been called is both an economic boon to Canada's fishermen, as well as an effort to manage an explosive mammalian population. The base number that Canada will not allow herd numbers to fall below is a little less than 4 million animals, and we are by no means close to that number even after a cull of 300,000 thousand animals. The numbers allowed for culling are adjusted every year, based on enviornmental conditions and predictions on breeding habits from experts. The seals are in no danger of extinction.
The regulations regarding the method of killing although seemingly cruel, specifically outline that "No person shall attempt to kill a marine mammal except in a manner that is designed to kill it quickly." I entreat the reader to explore all of the "Prohibitions" outined in Canadas Marine Mammal Act (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-14/SOR-93-56/118970.html). The weapons outlined and methods for killing the animals, are thus far the only solutions and best ones we have to date short of not doing at all (in which we did, operations were suspended for nearly two decades at one point to allow stocks to regrow). In some areas, guns ARE the preferred weapon to use, however they are actually _less_ effective at a 'quick' kill than a club, or the most effective, the 'hakpick'. The gun, usually fired from a distance, often only wounds the animals, and sealers are loathe to put more holes in the valuable pelts than nesseciary, as it reduces their value. Also, shooting the animal, if not killed, will stun it, giving it the appearance of being stunned. The clubbing method crushes the skull, killing the animal fairly accurately, similar to the methods we slaughter cows. The varying 'reports' from 'vetrenarians' observing the hunt don't actually contain any hard numbers on the exact basis of 'cruelty'. The term 'likely' comes up more than once when talkng about whether or not the seals are concious or 'alive' when being skinned. Now, as a practice, if it is happening, that is illegal and in contrary to the rules outlined in the MMA. Failures in these areas would probably be more in line with a lack of regulated training. However, 'proof' is contextual and often weak that it is a 'widespread' practice.
Arguments have been made against the economic viability of Sealing, and the honourable Mr. McCartney has suggested that ecotourism would be an equivalent industry in value. However, the numbers suggested by animal advocate groups suggest that the earnings from sealing is approximately 1/20th that of their annual salary from a seasonal career. One must keep in mind several factors when considering those numbers. The first being that fishing is a seasonal job, that the actual income varys from season to season, and can be drastically different from year to year. The averaged numbers, however, actually speak to a division of about a quarter, to a full third of their income from regular sources. It is estimated that 4,000 fisherman earn an additional 10 - 20,000 dollars in a matter of two - four weeks, compared to 40-60,000 of the 'regular salary' for four to six months of work. Hard Work.
Although Europe and The United states have had long standing boycotts on Canadian Seal products, Russia, China and several other nations make use of the animals - pelts for clothing, seal oil and meat is consumed as well. Very little of the seal, according to reports, is wasted by responsible and active fishermen. Comparisons to the value of the lobster business is not exactly accurate either - the lobsters are fished from all of our coasts, and the price of some of the lobsters and crabs (the snow crab or king crab, I can't remember which) is of a much higher value, and often comes at a high human cost to retrieve. Seals are hunted in one area on the ice floes in the northern reaches of the maritimes.
Canada has a strong record of conservation, animal rights protection, and is adjusting laws and regulations to improve those further. We are being as careful as possible with our resources, which is more than can be said about some of those that are so quick to judge us over a few seal pelts. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 2:39:07 PM | Paul McCartney's is a has been pot head burn out !!! I am sure while out of the ice flow that he probably puffed a few. He should just stay in the recording studio and puff on his bong... FN hippy! I saw a blip on tv of him talking and he sounded more burn't out than Ozzy for f*ck sakes!
I thought the seal hunt had been cancelled already???? That's what I had heard on the news earlier this week... that it had been closed back in the late 70's early 80's. Guess I heard wrong. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2006 2:45:39 PM | | It has been. It was in active for nearly two decades. See the "Beluga Act." It's recently been revoked, re-instating the allownances for the seal hunt. | |
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