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Posted: 4/19/2007 8:57:59 AM | !Somewhere: Us southern Ontario urbanites are not all of the same cloth! Some of us realize that life is different in different areas!
Mind you, I did grow up a farm boy. There are plenty of folk in the urban centres who are not ignorant donkeys. DJ Smak is the exception, not the rule. It just makes us Ontarians look bad that these exceptions are so vociferous.
^^^I understand, but when I was in Saskatchewan last I immediately was treated different (and rudely) for being from Toronto at the time. I had to prove I knew just as much about birthing cattle as the other farmers I was with to be accepted. Just the flip side of that. Toronto and southern Ontario has its own peculiarities making life difficult. Just not based in Animals.
Hehe. When was the last time someone had to prove their salt by going shoulder deep in a cow? It had an element of the ridiculous to it. I do understand that folk from my region think that TO is the centre of the universe! Some really do! And I lived there (and not far from it now) | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:20:26 AM | all while the rest of Canada isn't laughing at their jokes, we're laughing at them and the welfare state they call a province.
Hmmm well I guess the only question I have for you is ... with you head sooo far up your a$$ .. do you have a good view of your tonsils???
I am quite offended at the generalization you've made Smak (as well as showing that YOU can't even spell your POF name correctly). Newfoundland is not a welfare state based on your crude assumptions. Its attitudes like yours that give the rest of us living in Ontario a bad name amongst citizens of other provinces (assuming you have ever ventured outside Ontario).
Yep quick to generalize and condemn, without realizing that as a consumer, we utilize products that are tested on animals everyday... have you ever eaten meat??.. well an animal had to die for that... worn leather ??? used cologne?? or are you as synthetic as your comments???
.. yes I guess I AM antagonizing... Newfoundlanders and people down East are great, and hardworking people... and I am PROUD to call myself a Maritimer.....
Heres a Newfie joke for ya....
Whats black and blue and floats in the Bay of Fundy??
..... A Mainlander after telling too many newfie jokes
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:48:22 AM | If I have judgement on a place or people, it's because I have experienced it first hand, as in been there, seen it, done it..etc..not like you...coming up with dumb conclusions that you have either thought up or read about on IFAW,PETA or a GREENPEACE websites
again, the assumptions you make don't help your cause, you assume i read from PETA, IFAW etc. That would be rather silly wouldn't it, to only read one sides views on an issue, as if those places are the only ones that offer information on the subject matter. Tisk tisk. I realize they promote propaganda, just as much as the words from newfies and the government.
you're probably one of the people that keeps them rich...seems like you have too much time on your hands..
again, assumptions, I have not donated to any of those organizations. Too much time on my hands for what, getting an education and learning about issues that i care about? If you think that's a problem, perhaps that can help account for the dismal conditions out there.
You don't understand Newfoundland humour anyway...so don't even try!! No wonder you can't find a woman...lol
Nfld women would chew you up and spit you out!!!
Now, where did I put my sealskin coat?
FLIPPER PIE, FLIPPER PIE HAHAHA!!. You are right, I don't understand your humor, nor do i care to. And dear, I am engaged to be married so I have no need to find a women.
But what most people, in any area of rural Canada don't want, is to have a person from the city, try to tell them how their way of life should be lived. Specially when the city person has no idea what that way of life is.
Again, assuming I have no connections to rural communities is just plain stupid. I live in an area that has a strong history of making it's living by fishing and crops. My father grew up on a farm, i visited my grand parents farm often in my life, I know how it is. Most of my family is from rural communities.
Likewise I don't expect a Newfoundlander, or an urbanite from southern Ontario, to come to the prairies of Western Canada and insist that the lifestyle of most people here is wrong. a Newfoundlander wouldn't do that, but for some reason, an ignorant urbanite from southern Ontario would likely try.
You wouldn't expect it because it wouldn't happen. I don't know of many people who get up in arms about grain, other than grain farmers and the issue of fair trade.
People who've grown up along the coasts of eastern and northern Canada, seeing seals throughout their lives, have no huge moral objects, to the seal hunt. Just as a livestock farmer who's nurtured sick calves and lambs, has no moral objections to eating meat. The native trapper who's spent his life living in the wilderness near wild animals has no objections to someone wearing fur.
and these are the same people who had no problems overfishing either, and the incompetent government didn't help much.
But the people who do seem to suddenly find these actions, (which mankind has used to sustain his life since the dawn of history) offensive are almost always urbanites, who've never been close to a live cow, or sheep, or seal, or cod, or deer, or mink, or ...
you mistake history with greed. There is no justifiable reason to participate in this stuff, the only reason is money. As far as urbanites not being close to a live cow or whatever, I'm sure there are many who haven't, but not this urbanite.
You lost this argument over a year ago. Since then you've made a considerable number of posts in this thread, that didn't sustain any further discussion on the topic, they simply bashed seal-hunters or all Newfoundlanders.
who are you to say who lost or who won? Yeah, my latest threads have been in response to the bashing that is going on against the people who do not support it.
I am quite offended at the generalization you've made Smak (as well as showing that YOU can't even spell your POF name correctly). Newfoundland is not a welfare state based on your crude assumptions. Its attitudes like yours that give the rest of us living in Ontario a bad name amongst citizens of other provinces (assuming you have ever ventured outside Ontario).
Good, I'm glad you're all offended, coz I'm quite offended as well, especially when someone assumes that I misspelled my name as if it were a mental mistake. It's not, just as a band named Korn spelled it with a K.
Yep quick to generalize and condemn, without realizing that as a consumer, we utilize products that are tested on animals everyday... have you ever eaten meat??.. well an animal had to die for that... worn leather ??? used cologne?? or are you as synthetic as your comments???
go through the thread and read it, I'm not hear to hold your hand and make it easier for you. That issue has been addressed umpteen times now.
yes I guess I AM antagonizing... Newfoundlanders and people down East are great, and hardworking people... and I am PROUD to call myself a Maritimer.....
Good for you. Hardworking is what you call collecting a welfare check? Hey guess what, I am antagonizing to. I remained civil throughout this argument but of late, the people posting don't want to play by the rules, they wish to make assumptions, stupid comments, and basically cause problems, so why the surprise when someone does it back? | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 10:00:09 AM | I'm not hear to hold your hand and make it easier for you...
Thats good Mr Smak... sorry I dont swing that way... Oh and btw. its HERE 'um not HEAR.. thats ok tho buddy.. I'm sure you had to study REEEAAALLLLYYY hard to pass those entrance exams to kindergarten....
Hardworking is what you call collecting a welfare check? Hey guess what, I am antagonizing to
hmmmm well don't visit your personal circumstances on the rest of us big fella.. I actually WORK for a living... gee maybe that will open me up for MORE assumptions from you which are unfounded and baseless....
May I suggest you loosen up that bandana Mr Smak.. 'er Smacked... maybe the bloodflow is getting a LITTLE cut off ....
If I didnt know that your words were actually serious.. I may be laughing....
maybe in the haste to save the seals.. you took a few too many clubs to the head..??? | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 10:49:48 AM | So you've been to a farm and have gone fishing. Goo for you (yes goo, not good.) You still are showing a huge ignorance for other ways of life. How long is a cow's gestation cycle, Mr-I-know-the-country-and-farming-'cause-I've-been-there. Common, do it without google...
Good for you. Hardworking is what you call collecting a welfare check? Hey guess what, I am antagonizing to. I remained civil throughout this argument but of late, the people posting don't want to play by the rules, they wish to make assumptions, stupid comments, and basically cause problems, so why the surprise when someone does it back?
Yup, still ignorant. You give the rest of us Ontarians the bad name we have throughout the rest of Canada.
Funny how you did not address my post on how rich Newfoundland would be if they were given the same rights to their oil as Alberta has. Nope, you are calling them all welfare recipients. You definitely have never been to the rock.
After this I do not suggest to try it. That attitude will leave many sour on you. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:09:53 AM | the people posting don't want to play by the rules, they wish to make assumptions, stupid comments, and basically cause problems, so why the surprise when someone does it back?
.. and my whole problem with your (a-hem) "arguments" is the generalization you have made about an ENTIRE province.. scroll back and read your comments just in case you have forgotten already... sooooooooooo if you cant take criticism and heat, don't dish it out !!! especially when what you are saying is baseless and CLEARLY shows your lack of knowledge and education, and the inability to see beyond your own limited scope.... Not to mention your uncanny mispelling and grammatical errors in your posts which FURTHER make you appear to be uninformed !! | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 12:01:55 PM | Again, assuming I have no connections to rural communities is just plain stupid Maybe you do have some conection to some part of rural Canada.
BUT you have no apparent connection to rural Newfoundland. Nor do you seem to posses any understanding, or willingness to understand the lifestyle and people of that area. Yet these are the people who's culture and lifestyle you've begun attacking and insulting.
Likewise I don't expect a Newfoundlander, or an urbanite from southern Ontario, to come to the prairies of Western Canada and insist that the lifestyle of most people here is wrong. a Newfoundlander wouldn't do that, but for some reason, an ignorant urbanite from southern Ontario would likely try. You wouldn't expect it because it wouldn't happen.
Activists and groups like PETA, (who's support is almost entierly urban) regularly target lifestyles and economic activities in my part of Canada. Such as livestock and dairy farms, meat slaughter and processing facilities, sport hunting and fishing operations, etc....
these are the same people who had no problems overfishing either, and the incompetent government didn't help much. the government which allowed it was based in central Canada. Was elected by population to represent all Canadians, and as a result consisted mainly of a elected officials from urban Canada, elected by urban Canadians.
But the people who do seem to suddenly find these actions, (which mankind has used to sustain his life since the dawn of history) offensive are almost always urbanites, who've never been close to a live cow, or sheep, or seal, or cod, or deer, or mink, or ... you mistake history with greed. There is no justifiable reason to participate in this stuff
People have always relied on these activities as sources of food, clothing, and medicinal products.
I guess early man wasn't smart enough to walk into Wal-mart and just buy these things?
Or maybe a nomadic hunter gatherers killed animals, not for meat clothing and shelter, but for monetary gain????
who are you to say who lost or who won? I'm sorry.
Since you know longer post any points related to the pros or cons of the seal hunt, and resort to bashing people. I assumed you conceded that you had no wits left to make any valid arguement.
go through the thread and read it Maybe that's good advice for you???
I'm sick of re-stating things that were said 1 year ago, just to respond to one ignorant person who keeps this thread alive, despite his not having any valid to contribute.
What the fuck has this got to do with seals????
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FLIPPER PIE, FLIPPER PIE HAHAHA!!. You are right, | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 1:13:24 PM | and these are the same people who had no problems overfishing either, and the incompetent government didn't help much.
Mis-management by the federal government, who turned a blind eye to the problem with foreign overfishing...which is still going on today.
Unfortunately, you would never understand Nfld humour...lol
Smak's new name is Flipper Pie. Well..that's what we'd probably end up calling you anyway. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 2:23:54 PM | So you've been to a farm and have gone fishing. Goo for you (yes goo, not good.) You still are showing a huge ignorance for other ways of life. How long is a cow's gestation cycle, Mr-I-know-the-country-and-farming-'cause-I've-been-there. Common, do it without google...
Do you show an ignorance to people who choose to make money by selling their bodies, such as escorts? Or do you proudly proclaim to care equally and treat all choices of employment with the utmost respect? And honestly, I do not care to know the gestation cycle of a cow, its irrelevant as I've not once stated to be an expert in farming or fishing, or seal hunting for that matter. I didn't jump in this topic without knowing my sh1t though.
Yup, still ignorant. You give the rest of us Ontarians the bad name we have throughout the rest of Canada.
funny, I used that same logic when i mentioned Newfies giving the rest of Canada a bad name, hey kettle, hows it going?
Funny how you did not address my post on how rich Newfoundland would be if they were given the same rights to their oil as Alberta has. Nope, you are calling them all welfare recipients. You definitely have never been to the rock.
I don't disagree, but in the meantime, I don't care
and my whole problem with your (a-hem) "arguments" is the generalization you have made about an ENTIRE province.. scroll back and read your comments just in case you have forgotten already... sooooooooooo if you cant take criticism and heat, don't dish it out !!! especially when what you are saying is baseless and CLEARLY shows your lack of knowledge and education, and the inability to see beyond your own limited scope.... Not to mention your uncanny mispelling and grammatical errors in your posts which FURTHER make you appear to be uninformed !!
Have you even read the ENTIRE thread? If not, i suggest you do so. Obviously it's some of you that can't take the heat. What were ya doing when the others made generalizations, huh? Paid no mind, right? I won't name names but most of them came from the very people you choose to defend. Next time I see someone call a member a tree hugger or some other negative name, I'll get back to you right away so you can scoop the proverbial BS to them, alright? As far as attacking my grammar and spelling, those are tactics of someone who has their backs up against the wall and cannot think of anything more witty, or intelligent to say.
If you think my apparent lack of education and knowledge is to blame, then please debate me some more.
Maybe you do have some conection to some part of rural Canada.
BUT you have no apparent connection to rural Newfoundland. Nor do you seem to posses any understanding, or willingness to understand the lifestyle and people of that area. Yet these are the people who's culture and lifestyle you've begun attacking and insulting.
You see, when people can't find work here, and when times are hard, we do things differently, we go to where there is work. We attempt to make our lives better. We don't let tradition and family history get in our way of living a better life. Sure, many people go on welfare, it's like that everywhere, but it's not a running joke throughout Canada the way it is out there. Don't blame me, I didn't start that joke, I simply mentioned in here to stoop down to other people's level.
It happens.
Activists and groups like PETA, (who's support is almost entierly urban) regularly target lifestyles and economic activities in my part of Canada. Such as livestock and dairy farms, meat slaughter and processing facilities, sport hunting and fishing operations, etc....
Pfft, PETA, PETA is not something anyone should ever affiliate themselves with. Also, perhaps I should have made it more clear that....an ignorant urbanite from Ontario wouldn't go to the prairies because he doesn't care.
the government which allowed it was based in central Canada. Was elected by population to represent all Canadians, and as a result consisted mainly of a elected officials from urban Canada, elected by urban Canadians.
I'm glad you admit to the people overfishing, shows just who the blame should really be on.
ot greed. Survival
People have always relied on these activities as sources of food, clothing, and medicinal products.
I guess early man wasn't smart enough to walk into Wal-mart and just buy these things?
Or maybe a nomadic hunter gatherers killed animals, not for meat clothing and shelter, but for monetary gain????
It is greed, plain and simple. The fishermen make a decent living without having to partake in the seal hunt, this hunt allows them to earn even more money. The fact that the hunt itself is almost like a competition should clue you in that the more pelts one brings in, the more money they make. How many Newfoundlanders are walking around in sealskin coats and heat their homes with seal blubber, or make tools out of bones to aid in everyday life, the way the Inuit do? The Inuit hunt seals to survive, Easterners hunt seals for greed.
I'm sorry.
Since you know longer post any points related to the pros or cons of the seal hunt, and resort to bashing people. I assumed you conceded that you had no wits left to make any valid arguemen
Dude, wake the hell up, is it only me that has bashed people? It must be nice to have selective vision.
Maybe that's good advice for you???
I'm sick of re-stating things that were said 1 year ago, just to respond to one ignorant person who keeps this thread alive, despite his not having any valid to contribute.
What the **** has this got to do with seals????
I've been participating in this thread for much of the duration of it, I've read everything, k thanks. The ironic thing here though is that I to, am sick of restating things that have been said a year ago, because people can't read, or only chime in after reading one page. Also, I have not been the only one posting in this thread lately, so i guess you're guilty of keeping it going to?
What the **** has this got to do with seals????
I'm not even going to explain it to you as OBVIOUSLY, you haven't been paying attention.
Mis-management by the federal government, who turned a blind eye to the problem with foreign overfishing...which is still going on today.
Right, don't take any blame for yourselves, pass it on to the foreign trawlers.
Unfortunately, you would never understand Nfld humour...lol
Smak's new name is Flipper Pie. Well..that's what we'd probably end up calling you anyway.
And I care because?? Hey there's only one mammal that deserved to be associated with the name flipper, but unfortunately some dumb prick from the rock shot him and sold his organs to China. (Ya know, flipper, the dolphin, just in case ya didn't catch on, I'll forgive you this one time)
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Posted: 4/19/2007 2:33:06 PM | Personally, I'm a card carrying tree hugger. I love animals, I love the environment and I love human beings. I just have a problem with absolute bullshit.
- How about we just keep the topic to the seals and the seal hunt for now everybody. Smak has gotten his 15 minutes of fame. We're just keeping it going and getting wayyyy off topic.
If anybody else would like to lynch him, I would suggest sending him a personal email and duke it out there.
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Posted: 4/19/2007 2:33:59 PM | Tell ya what Smak. If you want credibility as a "rural roots" boy. The next time you want a burger go kill a cow yourself, and then butcher it. No plastic and foam containers.
It is greed, plain and simple. The fishermen make a decent living without having to partake in the seal hunt, this hunt allows them to earn even more money.
Okay one minute all Newfies are welfare bums the next they are all just a bunch of soulless capitalists? Pick one side of the fence before you fall off and hurt yourself.
BTW as for this ....
Mis-management by the federal government, who turned a blind eye to the problem with foreign overfishing...which is still going on today.
Right, don't take any blame for yourselves, pass it on to the foreign trawlers.
The Japanese and Spanish are DOCUMENTED as both overfishing and taking immature fish (i.e. haven't spawned to sustain the population).
A few destroyers patrolling these waters and taking illegal fishing vessels as "prize" to be auctioned off to pay for the effort of managing these stocks and the crews sent home in shame sans illegal fishing vessel would both send a very strong message to these countries and remove the financial incentive they currently enjoy for raping our waters.
EDIT: lol sorry ocean something in me just can't let that level of ignorance go unchallenged. Guilty as charged I too went off topic. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 3:20:43 PM | Smack I would debate you anytime.. but as far as intellectual weaponry .. you are SADLY unarmed and I wouldnt want to take advantage of you...
The term "tree hugger" is a FAR less offensive term than calling an entire province a "welfare state" .. As for reading the ENTIRE thread .. I don't really need to to get the gist of what is being said.. What I am commenting on is the obvious lack of mental and practical intelligence that you have in your distinct reference to Newfoundland.
I really am not sure how to make this any more simple, so that it can be a concept you can grasp. Speaking of reading, maybe you should do a little research on Newfoundland and he natural resources it possesses, while there may not be many historical textbooks on the subject with BIG pictures and foldouts, but I'm sure if you look hard enough, you may be able to find someone to explain this to you.....
... its funny with the amount of people taking issue with your comments, you seem Mr Smack to feel compelled to argue your ridiculous point to the point of making yourself look like a buffoon.... To which I say.. HAVE AT 'ER... maybe its the devious side of me that enjoys watching your "argument" crash and burn... BUT PLEASE KEEP UP THE WORK!! I am very entertained by your apparent lack of intelligence on the subject.....
Dude, wake the hell up, is it only me that has bashed people? It must be nice to have selective vision.
'um does the comment "Newfoundland as a welfare state" ring any bells in your noggin?? or are you REALLY that forgetful about your own words?? Anyway, that comment made ME jump on board.....
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Posted: 4/19/2007 3:24:23 PM | Total tangent here guys with this entire Canadian regionalism crap but the fact is that Albertans are no less judgemental of people from other provinces than Southern Ontario suburbanites. Here we just try to make it like anybody who isn't from this province is Lazy (Sask and Manitoba) Dishonnest (Ontario) Communist hippies (BC) or stupid (entire east coast). Every province is like this. A big reason for it is that provincial governments, like all governments can never completely provide what everybody wants. In Canada we have a simple scapegoat, other provinces and the federal government. The fact is, that our local governments make great headway in convincing all of us that we're getting a raw deal.
I mean mine still ****es about the freaking Energy plan. That was over 30 years ago now. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 4:01:07 PM |
Smack I would debate you anytime.. but as far as intellectual weaponry .. you are SADLY unarmed and I wouldnt want to take advantage of you...
Judging by that post alone, it seems your weaponry is as outdated as the Canadian military, now shut up before I proverbially punt you like the crippled puppy you are ... mentally speaking. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 4:15:17 PM | Much of the world allows the senseless slaughter of baby cows (calves) to be force-fed milk to produce tender veal, then be killed for their flesh simply because obese disgusting "gourmands" like to shovel the tender flesh into their gaping maws.
Also cute little baby chickens raised in stifling crowded chicken coops, unable to move so their flesh will be more 'tender' for the disgusting humans who choose to cram it into their yaps & digestive systems..
Chicken embryos (called 'eggs' ) taken from the nests of the mothers and cracked open to produce cholesterol-laden "food"; smashed before they even had a one-second chance at life..(to hatch).
Ah, but not as cute as the lil' seal pups ?
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Posted: 4/19/2007 4:53:47 PM | You see, when people can't find work here, and when times are hard, we do things differently, we go to where there is work. We attempt to make our lives better. We don't let tradition and family history get in our way of living a better life. Sure, many people go on welfare, it's like that everywhere, but it's not a running joke throughout Canada the way it is out there. Don't blame me, I didn't start that joke, I simply mentioned in here to stoop down to other people's level.
I guess you know less than I thought...with all the Nflder's that have actually went to Alberta for work only last year and this year alone. I know of alot of fisherman who fish from April to November, and then go to Alberta on the rigs for 4 months, and do the same thing year after year. You probably wouldn't have enough energy to do that. So...before you start calling all of us a bunch of welfare recipients, do your homework for God sakes and stop making such an ass of yourself. I have never collected welfare in my life, and I hope that I never have to.
On the other hand you talk about the greedy Nflder's..but I guess in order to have the standard of living that most of us want, we work for it, and don't mind working for what we have around us. I wouldn't have it any other way personally, and I certainly wouldn't want a lazy ass for a husband, if that reqiured him to go sealing... fishing...or Alberta for part of the year, so be it. I would admire anyone who could do that!!
The only level you're stooping to is your own there Mr. Smak, and the more you speak..the dumber you sound!!
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Posted: 4/19/2007 5:16:40 PM | Obviously I have not read all the material on here, but I have recently researched into the use of animals within the fashion industry and cruelty to animals in general and if you are for it, then please take a look at the PETA website and see the video footage and images there. I’m sure it will change some of your attitudes on the matter.
It doesn’t matter if the animal is considered cute or not, what it comes down to is that we are an evolved species, so with fake furs and such why kill an innocent creature for the sake of fashion? I am a fashion student at Uni, and ok fashion to me is a big thing, but I no way in hell consider murder as a necessary part of it. That’s what it is at the end of the day, murder! A lot of people are under the impression that the animals used for their pelts are also the animals used for their meat, that’s not the case. Animals used for the two are from different captures. So do you still think that killing these animals is ok?
Did you know that the hunters of these animals are on one of the lowest paying incomes there is? So come on I don’t care how much someone could offer me for that job I wouldn’t take it, and definitely not for brass buttons. Also most of the animals captured for their pelts are considered ‘TRASH’ a life has been taken for fashion and then discarded and considered trash. But that’s not even how it starts, most of these animals have been left for days to bleed to death, nor away limbs that have been caught in traps, …. I’m sure you can imagine. If captured these animals such as the fox, are put into small cages with another 2, left to starve and turn cannibalistic on one another, go cage crazy where they walk the small cages continuously, bleed to death or die of infection from capture wounds. To die there in the traps is more humane than what comes next for these foxes, they’re pulled out of these cages with a metal noose an hung up by that and their tails, then analy electrocuted, skinned, then discarded onto a carcass pile. But most aren’t even dead when this happens, one video footage on the PETA website shows a skinned fox on the carcass pile lift it’s head and moan in pain, with only it’s eyelash’s still in tacked. You think my typed version seems gruesome? Watch the video clip!
The seal hunts are just as gruesome, trails of seals left behind these hunters to die slowly. It isn’t just one blow and their gone, it’s many and not all have even that, they are left to bleed to death then gathered together. No human person can say this is an evolved way of thinking. This is a sick and twisted world for anyone to say this is ok to do. And for the top designers to use animal pelts is disgusting, they create garments that people aspire to have, to create the desire for fur, for murder, makes me wonder about my future career path.
Animals for food, again after the PETA site, a particular fast foods murder bar that the singer PINK for example has protested against. Where they over feed the livestock to gain excess meat have their legs buckle underneath them, stepped on, kicked, thrown into small huts and then boiled alive. Wonder why your meats tender?
Not yet convinced that animals shouldn’t be used this way, then please spare the time to look at the PETA website, please don’t be ignorant to the facts. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 5:49:36 PM |
If you're cute you get to live, if not; too bad, you die..
Food for though, phine.
If baby cows were slaughtered out in the open, in fields of snow and ice, do you think there would be more of outcry for it to stop?
Also, there seems to be a heck of a lot of people who care for the welfare of elephants. Do you think they're cute? | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 6:15:18 PM | pssshhaaawww gee shorty ya got me shakin' with the threats... now loosen up that fruity bandana and let some oxygen in that noodle of yours ....
.... and judging by YOUR post its no wonder why most in the forum know what I said about intellectual weaponry is true.... surely you can do better than that !!.. I'm disappointed!!
Go Smak yourself dude!! and AGAIN its PROVERBALLY.. learning proper spelling is half the battle in at least TRYING to sound somewhat intelligent... but why do I have the feeling this concept keeps flying over your head???
Your REALLY not worth my time and effort.. your lack of couth and spelling and grammar skills quite frankly bores me !!!
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 4/19/2007 6:48:37 PM | I'd just like to give a big old shout out to the maritimers.  I grew up in rural southern Ab, and was lucky enough to be embraced by lots of great people from the maritimes. You guys are awesome. Ignore the people who bash you and insult your provinces. You guys are workhorses, your lifestyle is hard and you do well by it. You also kick ass on the oil fields..in the bar,... at a party ...as a friend.....lol in the bed... Always great times when a maritimer s in the room. Hearty laughs, great food, hard work, and a great sense of community thats rare to find nowadays is what Ive always known you guys to be about, and there aint no shame in that!! | |
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 4/19/2007 7:05:37 PM | vicky1010, (sorry this is so long)
As gross as that sounded and I don't doubt there are those videos on the PETA website... that's exactly what the organization wants people to see. What you described about the foxes is NOT standard procedure and I wouldn't have any doubt in my mind that PETA themselves produced this whole video so it could look as gross as possible to help their cause.
My brother and cousins are certified trappers. First off, if you want to get any money at all for the pelts you are selling, they have to be in the best shape. Meaning that the animal is trapped in a way that their fur is not messed up (mostly neck traps, so they are killed instantly and don't suffer) and handled after the death with care in order not to peirce the skin.
Putting several foxes in a cage together, starving them and then letting them attack each other is an obsurd practice for fur traders or anyone in the fur business. If the animal is not being fed, the fur will fall out and become coarse and if they are attacking each other the fur is going to be matted and there will be tears in the skin. No company who deals in fur will take a pelt looking like that. Don't you see that PETA lures you into beleiving that every animal killed is done so in a horrible manner? This is what they are good at.
I don't doubt that there are those people out there who mistreat animals, but to actually beleive that every animal being killed for their fur is killed in the way you describe, is false. I really think that your ignorant of the facts and PETA is the reason for it.
Before you take PETA's word as the honest to god truth... take a look elsewhere and do some more research.
I grew up on a farm and we once had PETA activists in our town protesting the welfare of the cows on various farms. They managed to sneak onto a farmers property and videotape the farmer cutting the cows horns. It's a very necessary practice for alot of farmers and the reason they do it is to protect the other cows from being gored as well as the horn from growing into the side of the cows own head. Anyways... when they cut the horns it's very bloody and uncomfortable for the cow (at the moment they cut it), so on tape they had a cow that was bleeding and squirming inside the gate, and this is the video they were going to show people. Not a video of the cows horn possibly goring other cows or a video of the horn growing sideways into the cows head causing a large hole and discomfort. Needless to say the PETA protesters were chased out of the town with their tails between their legs!
PETA wants you see THEIR side of it, not the whole picture. If you don't want to eat the slaughtered meat, then don't... but shoving these images down peoples faces is in very poor taste. Why do you think animal activites have these pics of the baby seals... because they know they'll get a reaction, not because it's the entire truth. | |
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| Canada's Disgusting Seal Pup Hunt
Posted: 4/19/2007 7:27:07 PM | If you people can't stay on topic without the addressing of the topic, without personal attacks and bringing in off topic provincial cultural bashing, then
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