Regnis
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| Astrology? obviously not for everyone!!
Posted: 3/5/2006 12:56:34 PM |
I agree with you that too many people are looking for cop-outs, things to believe in fanatically or people/churches to blindly follow - astrology is not a cop-out or a reason to act like an assh*le (or not) - it does not ‘control’ or dictate anyone as a matter of fact - we choose our own paths in life, based on many different factors - astrology is a tool - to recognize where our strengths and weaknesses may lie based on planetary positions at the time of our birth - a tool if you choose to seek it out and use it.
Okay, that makes no sense what so ever. I quote:
Astrology does not claim immutability. Nonetheless a thought-provoking question can be raised: Future prediction necessarily implies a degree of immutability: it is the very reason which makes any prediction possible. But if the future is immutable, there is no point in knowing what can not be changed. | |
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| Astrology? for life and love...
Posted: 3/5/2006 1:14:58 PM | | Sugar - thank you for that, very interesting - I embrace and enjoy open-minded people that offer knowledge to my life, will definitely check into your recommendation. | |
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| Astrology? obviously not for everyone!!
Posted: 3/5/2006 1:39:23 PM |
I do take issue with those that nail it to a cross before actually investigating it and having a natal chart prepared - I would only hope in your lifetime you would be open minded enuf to get one and see for yourself.
No problem privatenites--as long as you pay for it.  Personally I wouldn't financially support these rituals, but I am open-minded and wouldn't mind being entertained by it, just as long as I don't pay for it or it isn't too time consuming. This sounds like palm reading or reading tarot cards--very entertaining stuff. | |
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Regnis
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Joined: 2/27/2006
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| Astrology? for life and love...
Posted: 3/5/2006 2:26:28 PM | I have to call it science, with sacred attached to it. I am not an astrologer, but I have spend years in the study. The math is mind-boggling, before the advent of computers, casting a chart was done by hand. It would take an average of 8 hours. Now it takes seconds. Astrology answers questions as to 'why we are here.'
Jyothish offers remedies, being aware of the planetary transits one can see why some days it is better to just stay home and chill, or if it is favorable to begin a relationship and the karma that has to be worked out. Largely it is about being the best you can be and knowing yourself.
For anyone interested in Vedic Astrology
Sites of Interest...
http://www.paramdhaam.com
http://www.cyberastro.com
http://sjcerc.com
http://www.sanatansociety.org
http://www.astrogyan.com
http://www.astroastro.com
One love. | |
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| Astrology? for life and love...
Posted: 3/5/2006 4:50:15 PM | apart from attempting to categorize one's lifestyle within a framework of 12 very badly conceived and cliched-to-hell slots, i see absolutely no use for Astrology as a substitute for plain common sense and brutal honesty. This reminds me of "SpinalTap"
I'm all for philosophizing about the meaning of life. But, to actually apply this in the dating sphere? omfg wtf rtfm n00b
To be honest though, and being polite, i cannot help but wistfully believe in astrology. I have gotten my natal chart done and i know where my planets are. kinda fun. Venus in pisces, Mars in scorpio. hahaah funny! | |
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| Astrology? obviously not for everyone!!
Posted: 3/5/2006 5:29:35 PM | To all those who tried to argue agianst me...lol you just did #7
In other words, you are REFRAMING the responsibility for ME TO PROVE IT WRONG.
that's BULLSHIT. Psychics are FRAUDS who steal money from the stupid.
Try to rebutt all 7 of my arguments...you can't
CASE CLOSED. PSYCHICS ARE FRAUDS. ESP IS BULLSHIT.
You guys should take any LOGICS class to learn how stupid your arguments are. You don't know what you are talking about.
People who claim to know this stuff are experts in ESCAPISM - getting out of accusations and REFRAMING THE BLAME. | |
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| Astrology? obviously not for everyone!!
Posted: 3/5/2006 5:40:47 PM | | ever seen a ghost, dude? i have. Chill on the flame bait 'tood. Besides, i don't think this thread can be classified as SPAM...yet | |
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/5/2006 6:30:25 PM | Muffy^^^thank you for your post - a natal chart is cool indeed
geesh Challenge - all that wisdom at the ripe old age of 19 - good luck with life and love my friend - with all the anger and hostility and the superior knowledge base from which you draw on - you will most certainly need it!! 
funny thing is the thread isn't and never was about ESP and "Miss Cleo"
maybe some reading comprehension classes would be in order - don't they teach that in high school anymore?  | |
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/5/2006 8:26:11 PM |
CASE CLOSED. PSYCHICS ARE FRAUDS. ESP IS BULLSHIT
That is why the United States government spent over 20 million dollars on project "Grill Flame"..
Even Russia hs spent millions of dollars on psychic research...not to mention Hitler researching it heavily druing world war two.
Canada has gotten into the act also....Project MK Ultra was exposed publicly in 1970 through law suits filed by Canadian survivors and/or their surviving families. These brave persons received the cooperation of Canadian Intelligence individuals and others who uncovered one of the CIA's original mind control research mental health facilities based in Montreal, Quebec Canada..
And lets not forget the numberous police agencies using them around the world...
There are a lot of things....in the world that can not be explained... | |
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Regnis
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Joined: 2/27/2006
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/5/2006 9:24:54 PM | Mind Control does not mean psyic or astrology. Mind control can be done using ELF waves or drugs.
Lets see, Hitler belived and spend millions on Egenics but its all bullshit. So did Canada and US, does that mean Eugenics is a real sicence? | |
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| Astrology? obviously not for everyone!!
Posted: 3/5/2006 10:34:23 PM | | privatenites the ony thing i can tell you is your destiny is created by you and no one else remember that don't believe in that black magic crap it only brainwashes people minds like some one i used to know!its pure entertainment thats all!if you believe in that crap you have to wonder and take a real good look at yourself in the mirror.. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 10:40:28 PM | Eugenics or as you like to call it.....egenics deals with breeding of races...
What does that have to do with astrology?
Eugenics is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of human hereditary traits through social intervention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
What the governments engaged in was..remote viewing..
Remote viewing (RV) is a procedure developed by parapsychologists at the Stanford Research Institute to perform clairvoyance under controlled conditions.
The process of remote viewing was first developed by Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff at the Stanford Research Institute at the behest of the CIA in 1972. The program -- initially codenamed Scanate -- apparently came as a response to Soviet research into psychic phenomena, on which the USSR was believed to have spent 60 million rubles in 1970.
I don't believe anyone is saying...let astrology led you by the nose....just have an open mind.. | |
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/5/2006 11:32:36 PM | privatenites
1) you're attacking me (ad homme? I think its called - too lazy to look it up) instead of the issues
Thanks for again adding to the #7 (escapism).
Next, I'm a university student and yes, I am pretty sure I am more worldy than you. Yes, that's arrogant, but you brought it up. Are you intimidated?
Look the hostility comes from the fact that these "reverons on television" and john edwards MAKE PROFITS by lying to the public.
They give harmful advice and are FRAUDS. Peter Popoff or the FRAUD who does FAITH HEALING ON TELEVISION was caught with microchip. Miss Cleo is a fraud.
Please prove to me ESP exists. I am guessing there is a psychological need for you to feel you have more control with your life and, without ESP, you are ordinary average JOE and life is less special. | |
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Regnis
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Joined: 2/27/2006
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/5/2006 11:41:40 PM | your claim that astrology is real is based on the fact that governments blew millions on it.
my point was that governments blew millions on Eugenics, so by your arugment it should be real. In the 1930, Canadian gov't sterlized thousands of disabled individuals in name of eugenics. Hitler's final solution was the same thing. So does that make Eugenics a real isntead of fake?
And what was the results of those research? ZIP. They concluded it was bullshit.
Astrology, Psyhics, etc. has never been demostrated scienitifically to be any more accurate then random chance. By that I mean in a controlled verified experiment of pyshic or astrology. No heresey, no I belive, demostrable facts. | |
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Regnis
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Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 43 | |
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| Astrology? for life and love...
Posted: 3/5/2006 11:47:29 PM | | You people have to be joking surely , personally I like the "abducted by aliens "idiots , they are much more entertaining , it's sad that people try to escape to an alternate reality to get out of their boring lives. | |
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Regnis
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Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 45 | |
| Astrology? for life and love...
Posted: 3/5/2006 11:49:14 PM | you know what though I changed my mind totally, I am now a full supporter astrology.. it is totally real.
Its like what Marx said about religion.. it keeps the masses idiotic and happy... less people rioting and protesting.. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 10:52:14 AM | thechallenge: The correct spelling is 'Ad Hominem' (a personal attack on someone) used by morons who play the martyr game. So she said some mean things about you. boo hoo. Her basic point, which you failed to even address because you'd rather hijack this thread with a non-sequitur.
Since i'm being helpful and don't want to get a decent thread locked just because some troll is trying to flame away to get that exact result, i'll post a link to 'non-sequitar' just to help you out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur
Actually, to be more precise, your attack on this thread is based on one assumption: that someone previous to you actually mentioned the words ESP and psychic. Which, of course, never happened. Thus it's obvious your first post here, TheChallenge, was a complete 'strawman argument'...and your subsequent trollage is totally offtopic and designed solely to get a half decent thread locked and deleted.
since i'm feeling generous, here's a link to a very helpful guide. might help you address some anger issues: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lilyth/strawman.html
ON TOPIC: as for the 'miracle on 42nd street' validations of silly stuff based on what governments spend money on? ohhh puhleeeez. You're basically trying to prove that santa claus exists. He does. now, let's move on shall we? Anyone else had a natal chart done? ever helped you in real life? mine certainly bloody didn't. Helps me understand and make some assumptions about my choices in life, but as for foresight? forget it. | |
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| Astrology? obviously for the enlightened
Posted: 3/6/2006 1:00:14 PM | your claim that astrology is real is based on the fact that governments blew millions on it.
regnis..I hope you don't work for a newspaper or you would get sued for libel....why because if you are going to use a staement or a quote...it should be verbatim.
Again..I made the FACT known there was research done in the field of remote viewing and that certain governments funded such research...understand now?????
no I belive, demostrable facts.
Well sorry regnis...not sure how to explain or answer that statement...tried to find a definition for demostrable...no such luck.
Its like what Marx said about religion.. it keeps the masses idiotic and happy... less people rioting and protesting..
regnis in your profile it states you are Christian...so does that mean you are among the idiotic and happy???
True, but astrology does not explain the unexplained...
Neither does scientlogy classes in Florida
Anyway you believe in what you chose to believe in...if you believe in a certain political party to save the world...fine if you chose to believe in what your next door neighbor tells you...fine.
If you chose to believe drinking a beer will ease the strees of your day fine.
Bottom line being the choice is yours...you make your decision on what you chose to accept and chose to ignore or dismiss. | |
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