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 cableclown
Joined: 9/9/2005
Msg: 126
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man i really messed up my prior post that i was trying to reply to other comments not been on for ever forgot how to respond to this stuff. but Brit stand up to that girl toss the can threw the window or some sh#t like that let them know you wont stand for it, i get followed around the stores like i am going to jack there sh#t in my small town been like that a long time. from the day my mom was adopted to this white area till now all the same . been called names i have kicked alot a a$$ now iam all big and grown i dont get much problems, no more war cries sh#t in school or the timber name,or the jungle bunny, referring to my ojibwe heritage . due to all the forest area that the Lac Courte Oreilles Band of Lake Superior Indians occuppy. yep racisem is alive and well in the good ol USA
 yugmde
Joined: 1/15/2007
Msg: 127
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Posted: 3/11/2007 7:28:09 PM
That was the hardest thing I have ever had to read. Cripes, Go to school please. Maybe the people who reacted to you poorly in the past did so because of your obvious ignorance. Not because of being native? I understand you have some issues and valid ones at that but, They would be better understood if you could air them in a more understandable Language?
 Soylent_Green
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 128
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Posted: 3/15/2007 11:06:37 PM
HAHAHA, one more note to the moron who thinks indians get everything for free from white people. It's so sad to even respond because clearly you suffer from severe brain damage and i feel terrible for making fun of you; but you said that Indians don't pay taxes for things that are "white made goods"....those don't exist....what have we white people ever made? Everything i own is made in either Mexico or Taiwan...HAHAHA, good one though, i'm sure if your brain donor friends & family could read this, they would have high fived you from their Camaro's......YAY!!! hey, did you see the one where Ricky and Julian.........yah!! way to make that point of yours dipshit............

sorry to the other people who read this, it's painful i know, but i'm in a mood right now that pains me to know that i'm white. I know that i made reference to the Trailer Park Boy's, and yes, i do enjoy that show, but it's the "white Trailer Trash" Mentality that is what i am poking fun at. This guy, who thinks indians go to white hospitals, and indians pay no taxes on white made goods?!? good god, if that's the mentallity of the average joe, then this forum site might as well close up shop for good, because what hope do we have of changing people's view's, like this ***hole's, if those are the facts he's basing his opinion on. They aren't even close to Fact. It sicken's me to know that in today's day and age, we still have complete and utter stupidity to deal with. I mean, i know it's there, but GODDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!! It is so stupid!!!! there isn't a better word to describe these people....STUPID..... That's it.

I don't think i'm coming back to this forum; i like and respect the people's opinions, The aboriginal's view's because you all actually live with this shit everyday, and for that, I am so sorry. It's just so draining to see people who can't change their minds.
 pwamowin
Joined: 6/14/2006
Msg: 129
aboriginal racism....still happening today?
Posted: 4/10/2007 3:22:39 PM
Well...I live in a small northern ontario mining city of Timmins... want to see racism at it's best...come here...!
A report that was conducted by the Canadain Hertitage and University of Nippising was recently released, the reports states in it's findings that Timmins is at the top of the list with a 87.5 % racist attitude toward native people...

Go figure eh...! I send out messages... just to say hello and introduce myself to other on POF... 90% of the time...I don't get a response...! after all look at my picture...I'm native...it shows.
My nephew , who was making a good living and doing well...finally gave up and had to leave...!left everything...his Job, his home, his friends....just got sick of it...!
I'm a bit more thick skinned...but I do get it...! and I do get it alot...! not just once in awhile...alot!
One incident not only hurt me...but also disrupted my Daughter to a point that she still cries about it...She mentioned to me if that is the way Native people are treated...then she doesn't want to be Native anymore...!
hmmmmm.....! I would imagine that I'll be leaving shortly as well...! it's a real sad place...!
 NathanMeade
Joined: 4/4/2007
Msg: 130
aboriginal racism....still happening today?
Posted: 4/11/2007 9:36:47 AM
Racism is still happeneing today. I was rejected from one of the Law Schools I applied to. I had a 154 LSAT and a 3.78 gpa; both above the mean scores of acceptence at this particular school. I didn't get in. I know of several minorities with scores lower than me get in, the worst with a 142 (extremely low score) and a 2.6 GPA that got in.

So yea racism still goes on. Affirmitive action=racism.
 *~*Red Queen II*~*
Joined: 9/13/2006
Msg: 131
aboriginal racism....still happening today?
Posted: 4/11/2007 10:24:46 AM
Tansi! I'm proud to have Aboriginal Ancestry (Mother is Cree). Although I appear caucasian (white), I remember the negative reactions that some people had towards me, once they discovered that I come from an aboriginal background. I have learned that thier racist attitudes & behaviours are thier problem & what goes around comes around.

Brittney: I'm very sorry to hear that you went through this.
I would just report this "business/store" to the Better Business Bureau & to the Human Rights Commission. Be sure to tell your friends & family to not spend thier hard-earned money at this business. Rise above & walk with your head held high, my girl!

Brunette: Thanks for all of your valuable information! It's very helpful & informative.

All the Best!
 Dannyboy64
Joined: 2/9/2007
Msg: 132
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Posted: 4/12/2007 1:57:27 AM
Hmmm, there are GOOD reasons for the stores acting these ways, but it should be done in a more sensitive manner.

In Lethbridge there was a convenience store on 3rd Avenue that was busted for selling alcohol without a liscence because a high percentage of their sales was Lysol.

A friend of mine worked at a Lethbridge supermarket and was deeply offended because management knew what the stuff was being used for, laughted about it and implemented no controls over it's improper use.

I was concerned when a clerk sold Lysterine to a scraggly looking person who was already drunk. It doesn't matter what race he was, sometimes it is obvious what it is being (mis)used for.

There was a guy from Coaldale who bought a case of mouthwash and took it to parties. He was of a white european ethnicity 'famous for being cheap.'

A man buying Lysol is perhaps a little suspicious - that is just not something we clean with. No super duper chemicals that nuke the caked on dirt. In your case it was stupid for the store to question, but retail people often are not experts in everything.

If these stores can prevent one person from drinking that stuff they deserve our sympathy and support.

If the vast majority of the people using these substances improperly are Aboriginals, we should work within our community to prevent it. People don't form negative stereotypes based on myths, but on personal experience. As aboriginals we ought to pressure those who enforce the stereotypes, not the poor whiteys who have to deal with the problems.

If we keep our noses clean, the problem of racism will be greatly reduced.

 chinua
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 133
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Posted: 4/12/2007 9:51:06 AM
'white european ethnicity famous for being cheap'??? Do you have personal experience with that? I was talking about a stereotype with a friend last night- we both have scottish ancestry- talk about enforcing a stereotype; that nobody knows where the origin is. Unless you're talking about a different 'ethnicity'..........but even so; it wasn't nice to say.
I live in a small town; there are a lot of natives (4 local reserves) and yes, there is a lot of racism here. I work in a Rona- and i'm tired of being sent down an aisle to watch someone who might steal; I ask the person(supervisor) who tells me to watch why...........do you know that person?? the answer is no, so I assume that the suspicion is based on that they are young and native. The supervisor isn't white; she's filipino. She was shocked when I told her that I discovered a couple of young white people who were taking a propane torch out of a cabinet(that was supposed to be locked)- when I came around the corner and they saw me- they put it back and took off.
I agree that everybody has got to do something about the drug/drinking problem; instead of just ignoring it. The store owners/managers could be working with the police, and community groups. My friend and I are working with the local group who holds our fall fair; and are doing what we can to get all groups involved; including the local reserves- I don't think anybody has ever asked them to get involved so people can see another side to them(which I HAVE seen). I think that would help with the stereotypes.
 MS1970
Joined: 6/29/2005
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Posted: 4/12/2007 12:22:55 PM
I am from western South Dakota. I grew up on the Pineridge reservation there and I can say without a doubt that native rascism still exists in some of it's worst forms. As a child I remember walking with my Great Grandfather down the street and listening to people call him a Prairie N***er. Iwatched his eyes go cold and hard and start to turn from the loving, honest man I knew to someone that felt he had to face those idiots down. I have never seen hurt like that in anyones eyes before or since.

Will it ever end? Will it ever become something that fades by the side in human history? All I can do is say that I hope so. Until then all you, or I or anyone can do is teach our children, talk to one person at a time and chip away at the kind of stain that rascism in ANY form, against any peoples, leaves behind. It is the fallback of the weak minded and ignorant that they need to downgrade someone else to feel superior.
 Dannyboy64
Joined: 2/9/2007
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Posted: 4/12/2007 7:44:30 PM
One of my friend used the term Prairie N**ger once. It was because a common friend had been knifed to death by a group of aboriginal thugs.

I like the approach taken by Jarome Iginla in his GQ interview. He is the anti-Sharpton and has created the best stereotype of an Afro Canadian.

Again, we are the ones who can best change what the public thinks of us by our actions. People in my home community respected the Japenese because they are the most respectable and industrious people around. We could learn a thing or two from them.
 chinua
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 136
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Posted: 4/12/2007 9:00:52 PM
^^ and I heard they are also very stressed and have a high suicide rate.
 KarmaTiger
Joined: 3/9/2007
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Posted: 4/13/2007 8:49:41 AM
^^ which is a bit of a media-hyped stereotype in and of itself.

As to aboriginal racism, I've seen many sides of it.

I lived on a reserve off the coast of Northern BC and was constantly reminded by my native peers of how inferior I was because I'm half white (other half is chinese, BTW, but with my peaked eyebrows and a slight epicanthal fold they presumed the other half was Salish indian).

I've seen friends of mine - Cree, Dene, and Blackfoot - hassled by the cops for things that cops wouldn't look twice at a white person for.

I've seen thriving, successful bands in BC where they earn millions per year not through casinos, but by leasing out land to shopping malls, or selling Cowichan sweaters or bent-wood boxes over the internet for hundreds or even thousands of dollars per piece. And the band members are happy, confident, self-assured people living alongside whites harmoniously, but with a unique and colourful culture of their own.

I've seen corrupt bands where the chief and his family absorb the provincial and federal funds the band receives, while alcoholism and domestic violence rip through the poverty-stricken reserve... and whites blame the situation on the 'indian culture'.

And recently, when a native teen was convicted of hitting a gas station attendant with his car and dragging him to death, the court reduced the driver's sentance to 7 years including time served awaiting trial for, among other thing, his "aboriginal status". Now, the other factors (abused as a child, etc.) could be argued as a factor in why he didn't stop even as he left a bloody trail of his victim's flesh for blocks, and surely heard his victims pleas when he stopped at intersections... But racial status reducing a sentance? That has some very dangerous ramifications.
 backwarduck
Joined: 3/22/2007
Msg: 138
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Posted: 4/13/2007 10:37:04 AM
As we see, racism is alive and well.

What ever happened to the dreams of the 60's?

Oh ya, the propaganda machine got a hold of them and turned them into paranoid nightmares so that the Filthy Rich could continue to steel our resources.

I live close to a reservation; it's amazing that such ignorance and intolerance still exists. It’s embracing.
 This is Now
Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 139
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Posted: 4/13/2007 11:09:03 AM
My youngest son is part native. His father was adopted at age thirteen but his father was full and his mother was zero.

But my son is also a special needs child. And yes, discrimination is huge. Over the years I became sorry in some ways that I ever disclosed his ancestry to school boards or social workers when we were planning programs for him.

Not all but far too many treated him like a write off. I know it wasn't just me taking things wrong because my friend's eldest child is half native and she had an even worse time.
 chinua
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 140
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Posted: 4/13/2007 7:37:47 PM
Karma; I had a boyfriend who is half Haida- most people thought he was Japanese. He was even asked by some Japanese students where he learned such good english People definately make quick assumptions; the old 'judge a book by its cover' thing. People who get angry about racism when it comes to other races (other minorities) don't think twice when when it happens to natives; they even do it themselves. Why is it that its so accepted??
 Soylent_Green
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 141
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Posted: 4/17/2007 9:40:19 PM
dannyboy states : "People don't form negative stereotypes based on myths, but on personal experience" ...........that's the dumbest thing i've ever seen.

where do you get that from? all racism and stereotypes come from myths and theories and never from personal experience. what a dumb comment.

i lived in a community with zero natives and when they found out my step dad was native, alot of my friends stopped coming over. they all ASSUME natives are all drunks and unemployed and hooked on Lysol and blah blah blah, but instead of actually investigating it and becoming educated they just continue spreading their ignorance through their lies. so get a clue pal, your soft spoken words of proper enforcement for stores selling lysol is still degrading. it's rude to assume what it's for, and even if it's obvious to you...it isn't always the way it is. my step dad was buying some groceries, like a whole cart full, and when the clerk got to the mouthwash she still gave him a funny look even though he was standing with my mom who is white. So you know what? it's bullshit regardless of what you may think the stores should be allowed to enforce in their sales.
How many bars and pubs still sell booze to patrons even though they are stumbling and falling down drunk...why isn't that a concern? those places should be fined, or shut down; but any native at a store gets "the look" or "the questions" regardless. I think it's extremely condescending and degrading.
 Soylent_Green
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 142
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Posted: 4/17/2007 9:47:06 PM
dannyboy again writes: "One of my friend used the term Prairie N**ger once. It was because a common friend had been knifed to death by a group of aboriginal thugs."

what is your point?

Were they thugs? or did your other friend call them Prairie N*****'s first? what was the cause of the fight?
 JordanMardan
Joined: 4/22/2005
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Posted: 4/17/2007 11:27:09 PM
Has anyone ever seen the movie "Quigley Down Under," which stars Tom Selleck?

Selleck's character was hired by a white Australian to help kill off Aboriginals, but once "Selleck" finds out what he's been hired to do....he ends up killing his employer.

Scenes in the movie include the Aboriginals being driven over cliffs by the whites to get rid of them.
How accurate is this to what actually happened during the genocide?

Very horrifying.
 KarmaTiger
Joined: 3/9/2007
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Posted: 4/18/2007 4:06:43 AM

Karma; I had a boyfriend who is half Haida- most people thought he was Japanese. He was even asked by some Japanese students where he learned such good english People definately make quick assumptions; the old 'judge a book by its cover' thing. People who get angry about racism when it comes to other races (other minorities) don't think twice when when it happens to natives; they even do it themselves. Why is it that its so accepted??


Interestingly enough, the reserve I lived on was a Kwaquitl one. There were many wondwrful people on that reserve, people who didn't judge by colour or creed. But a few were as racist towards Haida - or moreso - than they were towards whites.
 MustangGirl_
Joined: 3/29/2007
Msg: 145
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Posted: 4/18/2007 1:47:43 PM
racism will always be around. As long as there exsist differences in the world such as religion, skin color, way of life. I think asking those questions or being told to ask those questions is quite rude and unethical. You should contact that stores head office and give them shiit.
 stormee-d
Joined: 1/28/2007
Msg: 146
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Posted: 4/20/2007 7:03:38 AM
Actually, Soylent green, negative stereotypes CAN BE FORMED, AND BASED ON personal experiences.

As for questioning what solvents/chemicals are for ... really, is it that offensive? Does anyone - who is not so defensive - really care if they are asked what a chemical/solvent is for ... if by questioning, the store is potentially temporarily saving a few people a week from self-destruction??

But, I suppose it's like what happened to certain pharmacist who tried to put a stop to the abuse and misuse of prescription drugs ... she wound up losing her licence and business because she "cared".

A 16 year old Treaty boy I worked said one day "I have a headache", and ran across the street to the clinic/pharmacy. Within maybe 7-8 minutes he came back with a prescription pill bottle! (I can't recall what it was filled with, but they were stronger than anything off a shelf, or that I would take). Coincidently, his associates were pill-poppers. Now, who do you blame for that kind of b.s. happening?? The doctor for prescribing it (clearly without any exam), the pharmacy for filling the prescription, the boy himself for knowing darn well how easy it was to get drugs, or the band he was from for accepting and allowing free drugs that are not medicine or penicillin based??
 Soylent_Green
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 147
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Posted: 5/7/2007 11:43:54 PM
"Actually, Soylent green, negative stereotypes CAN BE FORMED, AND BASED ON personal experiences": if this was the case then it isnt' a stereotype; it's a personal opinion: there is a difference.

As for the 16 year old kid with a headache, you don't know what his history was with his headaches (or you didn't mention it). Maybe he had a head injury before, maybe this was a relapse, maybe anything; you don't know, you are speculating. Why didn't you just give him an asperin if you KNEW what was wrong? What exactly is your point? I thinks it's disrespectful to anyone, of any race to be asked any question beyond "can i see some i.d?" in a convenience store. It's funny, my dad (who is a Treaty Indian) refuses to buy any mouth wash products regardless of the other amount of groceries he's buying...regardless of how he's dressed (very respectable), how he acts; anything...because he's Native, he always gets a "funny" look when purchasing those products. He makes more money than anyone i know, and pays more to taxes than anyone i know. Yet he's questioned with racist looks when he wants fresh breath??? NO Stormee D, i think you are silly.
 Soylent_Green
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 148
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Posted: 5/7/2007 11:50:14 PM
"A 16 year old Treaty boy I worked said one day "I have a headache", and ran across the street to the clinic/pharmacy. Within maybe 7-8 minutes he came back with a prescription pill bottle! (I can't recall what it was filled with, but they were stronger than anything off a shelf, or that I would take). Coincidently, his associates were pill-poppers. Now, who do you blame for that kind of b.s. happening?? The doctor for prescribing it (clearly without any exam), the pharmacy for filling the prescription, the boy himself for knowing darn well how easy it was to get drugs, or the band he was from for accepting and allowing free drugs that are not medicine or penicillin based??"

This entire speal makes no point beyond your own limited thought process. You can't recall what the pills were, yet they MUST be stronger than your own? His friends are pill poppers? says who? did you see him give his friends those pills? What free drugs that aren't medicine based or penicilin based are prescribed by a doctor? Or was that a different reference to something else? You sound like a typical ignorant white person; hold on i'm going to look at your profile.....yep, you are white...figures.
 stormee-d
Joined: 1/28/2007
Msg: 149
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Posted: 5/8/2007 8:20:34 AM
go deeper... personal experiences of families, generations, and all one has grown up witnessing , and hearing about.. It is so much more than being about a personal opinion. I will back up to say that all this does not "start" the stereotype - it only adds to, confirms, and magnifies it.

As for the 16 year old, no..I am not speculating. I would not have mentioned it at all if i was not sure of his intent ... and how he laughed about it. He & I had a good relationship, and I assure you, it was not an aspirin he was looking for.

I'm really not surprised that you do not understand my point. I don't know how to make it any clearer to you, besides stressing the fact that IF PEOPLE QUESTIONED MORE , AND CARED enough to try to stop PEOPLE from SELF-DESTRUCTING WITH PILL/DRUG/SOLVENT/ALCOHOL ABUSE ... maybe a few would be saved, even if it meant "offending" a few innocents.

But, you truly are correct - I am silly - downright stupid in fact ... to think that the people who recognize the problems and TRY to stop them could ever be seen as anything but racist or 'bad'! In my 'twisted' way of thinking, I think it is worse for others to live in denial, in a state of defensiveness, and just continue blaming all the present self-destruction on others and the past... than actually attempt to do something about it.
 yna6
Joined: 1/21/2007
Msg: 150
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Posted: 5/8/2007 8:52:31 AM
Hmmm....some businesses are looking for compensation for lost revenues because of illegal road blocks. The courts routinly award them to other victims, so I can see it coming. Sometimes it is the instigator that pays., the gov't garnisheeing wages at 50% until it is paid up. Perhaps the gov't could "garnish" tribal and welfare payments until the victim are compensated. This could go a long ways towards making others think twice before shutting down a major road.

Anyhow's....I figure that some "status" natives didn't share the wealth when they sold lands to a developer, and PO'ed the rest of the people. It is an "in-house" affair, that should never have affected the developer.

Hmmm....I could well be off base on that one too....ah well....
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