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 Im listening

Joined: 7/17/2005
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Posted: 8/3/2005 1:36:37 PM
R-Dub,

“listening, Have I learned anything? yes I have learned that if you write a book full of stuff that people want to believe it will be assumed true and passed off as fact regardless of the truth.”

That sword cuts both ways R-Dub and so my question stands

Very funny. How could you even write such a thing?
See below



http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha03101.html


http://www.jackherer.com/chapter08.html


http://www.coolhemp.com/en_home_review4.htm
 rwhprism

Joined: 7/18/2005
Msg: 252
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Posted: 8/3/2005 1:57:24 PM
don't point me to a pro hemp website! formulate your own opinion! I don't want plagiarism, I want a debate.
 Trewq36

Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 8/3/2005 2:32:32 PM
Debate what? When all you do is dismiss?
I gave points for each of yours, now fair is fair where's my money?
 Im listening

Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 254
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Posted: 8/3/2005 4:42:01 PM
ah Dub Bro? ya took de Bait rotflmao

now all that remaims is the REAL ya in
all puns intended
 carribeanking7

Joined: 4/10/2005
Msg: 255
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Posted: 8/4/2005 12:57:31 AM
As Bob Marley said


Legalize It
 ChronicTom

Joined: 4/3/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 6:17:15 AM
rwhprism

yes I have read the side effects. To which medications are you referring? There are many side effects. Of the thousands of medications I aware, I know of precious few that can actually produce cancerous tissue and I don't think you know them. Prove me wrong! I'm not talking about clinical trials here so don't tell me about transposons. I want to know which pharaceuticals which are given to patients will produce carcinomas.


You are a moron.

No matter what anyone says on this thread, you just deny it and state irrelevant information that is somehow supposed to support your argument.

Prove you wrong? I wouldnt even take the time to spit on you if you were lying in a ditch.

The fact that you would sit their and say something as stupid as you just did tells me all I need to know about you. You have no place in a debate. You have been offered argument after argument and your response has been the same. "Your wrong, I'm right, I know everything and you know nothing" S go crawl back under your rocka dn let people who actually want to have discussions about this do so.

I will give you partial credit though, I only know the drugs that have been prescribed for me over the years, and although there are quite a few of them, the numbers aren't anywhere close to the thousands that you supposedly know. As for me listing any of them. Why should I? You'll just say, oh those are just a few isolated incidences, and it wouldnt matter if I listed a hundred of them.

If you know so much and are so smart, go prove your claims and make a claim for the 100k. This isn's a rumour, its a publisjed challenge. If you could prove his claims wrong, the courts would be more than happy to enforce his publically made and published claim.
 Herkimer

Joined: 5/17/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 6:58:48 AM
mpp.org.....a credible unbiased source for information there.....and this link..http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.57309. is not a valid link but came from mpp.org.

flawed science!
 passionteman

Joined: 3/7/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 7:54:03 AM
Drugs aren't good. Stop using them and justifying them as medications!!!!
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 8/4/2005 8:11:54 AM
You just have to use them properly, and not have them use you.

Coffee is a drug too, you know. So are many other things...
 sanktspirit

Joined: 7/30/2005
Msg: 260
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Posted: 8/4/2005 9:41:26 AM
The day is coming when Mary Jane will be decriminalized in Europe and Canada and the Americans will be able to enjoy their tea without the fear of their tyrannical legal system. Lets keep working for that day.
 PatsFan69

Joined: 6/15/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 9:57:55 AM

I have learned that if you write a book full of stuff that people want to believe it will be assumed true and passed off as fact regardless of the truth. You simply want to these items to be true.


Just as people have written on how bad this stuff is, people that want to believe it, will.

We want these items to be true, just as bad as you want them to be false.

The only difference is we have provided an abundance of information, that can be followed up on.And the non believers just say "No, it doesnt work that way."
 PatsFan69

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Posted: 8/4/2005 10:04:03 AM

Drugs aren't good. Stop using them and justifying them as medications!!!!


I thought medications were drugs. Or is drugstore just a clever name?
 wegoted

Joined: 8/3/2005
Msg: 263
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Posted: 8/4/2005 12:47:22 PM
trewq, OMG where do I begin with you posts: Lets start with a few of the minor ones. Apparently you are not aware of the recently released Cornell University findings: Biomass has not proven to be a sustainable alternative fuel. In fact it is a net waste of energy to produce it. Now I was certain you would be aware of what a waste of energy was all about.



In terms of energy output compared with energy input for ethanol production, the study found that:

corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced;
switch grass requires 45 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced; and
wood biomass requires 57 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced.
In terms of energy output compared with the energy input for biodiesel production, the study found that:

soybean plants requires 27 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced, and
sunflower plants requires 118 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced.


Stil trying to insist that this weed was 80% of the economy at any point in history? You seem to have backed off of that percentage substantially and wisely so. It's stupid to think so.


Substances or groups of substances, and medical treatments that are known to be carcinogenic


are you trying to suggest that these chemicals are used for medical treatment? r-dub didn't ask for a list of carcinogenic compounds. Is that what these words mean to you?

Chronic Tom said


Have you ever read the side effects of most medication you get prescribed? Most have carcinogenic compounds in them, amongst other harmful attributes.

r-dub just asked him to give him an example of a MEDICATION that has carcinogenic compounds in it.
I can't go through all of them obviously so let me just pick a few out and have you tell me what fool doctor would prescribe these to his patients.

Arsenic - if your doctor prescribes this for you, you must be OBL

Benzene – drink your favorite organic solvent. That makes sense if you’re smoking crack!

chloromethyl methyl ether – maybe you can inhale it and get really high before you die of cancer. Doctors give this stuff out right and left - don't they?

Acrylonitrile - in case you want to make nylon out of your body while it kills you. Do you actually believe this stuff is prescribed?

1,3-Butadiene – does your doctor want to make you rubber? Maybe you’d be more fun.

Polychlorinated biphenyls – yes – that’s it . doctors always want patients to fix their health by licking the ground around Love Canal, Niagara falls. Just f- in stupid.

Silica, crystalline
Quartz – silicates and quartz are the same basic structure but you are suggesting that doctors prescribe sand and glass. Do you even know that?

Urethane – Oh – of course another doctor prescribing automotive paints for their best patients. I know I take it on a regular basis

Progesterone-
Estrogens – yup – duh/ all those derivatives of the perhydrocyclopentanophenanthrene nucleus are all alike.

Do you think I don’t know what these compounds are? Obviously you don’t or you wouldn’t suggest them as medications. Before you just look us a list of suspected carcinogens and use it to justify use of marijuana - get your facts straight. Stupid.

Don’t make me go into the less common ones. I was only hoping to find those everyone would recognize.
 Trewq36

Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 1:51:59 PM
I realized not every thing on my list was used as a Human medication, for example some are for your pets. But here are a few of the ones on the list which are sold as Human Medications.


GENERIC NAME: conjugated equine estrogens
BRAND NAME: Premarin
DRUG CLASS AND MECHANISM: Estrogens are one of the two major classes of female hormones. (Progestins comprise the second major class.) Estrogens are used primarily to treat the symptoms of menopause and states in which there is a deficiency of estrogen, for example, in women who have had their ovaries removed.

DRUG NAME: DIETHYLSTILBESTROL
SYNONYM(S): DES, Stilbestrol, Stilboestrol
COMMON TRADE NAME(S): Honvol® (Baxter), Stilbestrol® (Wellspring)

DRUG NAME: MELPHALAN. SYNONYM(S): L-PAM, L-phenyalanine mustard, L-sarcolysin. COMMON TRADE NAME(S): Alkeran® (GlaxoSmithKline) B.

Cyclophosphamide is used to treat: lymphomas, multiple myeloma, leukemias, mycosis fungoides, euroblastoma, ovarian carcinoma, retinoblastoma, breast cancer.


I am still reseaching your Biomass claims, I'll get back to ya. But I suspect the fault is with the use of Fossil Fuel in the "test", It really is not a very effective fuel.
 Herkimer

Joined: 5/17/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 2:11:43 PM
DES has been outlawed for YEARS!
Alkeran...a drug to fight cancer causes it..how rich!
 wegoted

Joined: 8/3/2005
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Posted: 8/4/2005 6:05:40 PM
I know they aren't but you were asked to find medications. Equine estrogens used to treat menopause was the best you could come up with? Would you rather that doctors not treat menopausal symptoms or not extract the hormone from a horse?

You have found some of the cancer drugs used which are actually carcinogenic. Good work. They are extremely damaging to tissues and they hope is that they kill more bad cells than they generate. Like radiation treatments which can also develop malignant cells you just try to blast the affected area and hope the body can mop up.

This does not exactly support ChronicToms claim that doctors are prescribing medicines all the time that cause cancer - does it? Seems the only real medicines are the extreme toxins used to treat cancer.

Researching the biomass claims? Please don't rely on some guys website. You don't have to go very far. Just google search the Cornell University study. It is released within the past 3 weeks and Cornell is a very well repected agricultural college. Fossil fuel is not an effective fuel. Again you are challenging me. What fuel do you know of which makes an engine operate more efficiently? And please don't feed me bullsh** . I'm fully aware of carnot efficiencies and I contend that the third law of thermodynamics says fossil fuels are relatively efficient in engines. Show evidence to the contrary. I'm waiting.
 ChronicTom

Joined: 4/3/2005
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Posted: 8/5/2005 5:01:18 AM
My claims? lol, look up anti derpression and anxiety medications...

As for your cornell studies... these are the same people that said that passive solar energy models don't pan out. Of course that has nothing to do with their grants from utility companies to do their research...


I contend that the third law of thermodynamics says fossil fuels are relatively efficient in engines.
Oh yeah for sure... you can tell how effecient they are by the fact that they stay so cool, right? Becasue if they weren't effecient, there would be all this excess heat that was being produced instead of it all turning into torque. Oh wait... I guess this would be the bullshit your talking about right?

Well, lets not jump to conclusions here... lol


Third law of thermodynamics
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The third law of thermodynamics was developed by Walther Nernst and is thus sometimes referred to as Nernst's theorem.

This states that the entropy of a system at zero absolute temperature is a well-defined constant. This is because a system at zero temperature exists in its ground state, so that its entropy is determined only by the degeneracy of the ground state. OR It states that 'it is impossible by any procedure, no matter how idealised, to reduce any system to the absolute zero of temperature in a finite number of operations'.


hmm... oh yeah, I can clearly see where that proves that fossil fuels are efficient..
 PatsFan69

Joined: 6/15/2005
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Posted: 8/5/2005 6:53:56 AM
Seems the only real medicines are the extreme toxins used to treat cancer.


Real medicines are extreme toxins <---If this isnt an oxymoron, I dont know what is.



I'm fully aware of carnot efficiencies and I contend that the third law of thermodynamics says fossil fuels are relatively efficient in engines. Show evidence to the contrary. I'm waiting.


I contend if it gets to be -460 degrees, Im not gonna worry about if fossil fuels will run efficiently in an engine. Cause the metal to metal contact wouldnt allow the crankshaft to spin in its bearings anyway. Why? Cause it would be frozen. I also dont think they make crankcase heaters that could withstand such temps. So your precious petroleum would be frozen also. Did I mention we'd all be frozen?


Hydrogen is more efficient, and less dangerous, the only exhaust you get is water.
 Trewq36

Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:34:31 AM
Alcohol vs. Gasoline


Critics of Pimentel's study cite questionable deductions, for example; 1,000,000 Btu per acre for labor, 5,656,000 Btu for machinery, as well as additional deductions for steel and concrete production and construction of ethanol refineries, while not saying from where these numbers were derived. (Shapouri, Hosein, James A. Duffield, Michael Wang. The Energy Balance of Corn Ethanol: An Update. USDA: Office of the Chief Economist; Office of Energy Policy and New Uses. Washington, DC. July, 2002) It’s only fair to hold gasoline to the same standard that ethanol is being put through. The focus of the USDA report, and others, was on ethanol and the energy balance equation, but according to a report by the Minnesota Department of Agriculture, when taking into account the energy needed to extract, transport and refine crude oil into gasoline, the final energy product of gasoline has an energy ratio of 0.805. That means ethanol production is 81% more energy efficient than gasoline. Continuous refinements to ethanol production procedures have much improved the benefit/cost ratio, and most studies of modern systems indicate that they now have a positive net energy balance. Also, when ethanol is mixed with water vapor and converted into hydrogen, it does not need to be as pure as when it is used in a combustion engine, making the process more efficient..............
A 2002 report by the United States Department of Agriculture concluded that corn ethanol production in the U.S. has a net energy value of 1.34, meaning 34% more energy was produced than what went in.............. The study also concluded that the energy used to produce and convert the ethanol was from abundant domestic sources, with only 17% of the energy used coming from liquid fuels, therefore, for every 1 Btu of liquid fuel used, such as gasoline or diesel fuel, there was a 6.34 Btu gain. MSU Ethanol Energy Balance Study: Michigan State University, May 2002. This comprehensive, independent study funded by MSU shows that there is 56% more energy per unit volume of ethanol than it takes to produce it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_as_a_fuel#Net_fuel_energy_balance


And this knowledge is not new!

Studies of alcohol as an internal combustion engine fuel began in the U.S. with the Edison Electric Testing Laboratory and Columbia University in 1906. Elihu Thomson reported that despite a smaller heat or B.T.U. value, "a gallon of alcohol will develop substantially the same power in an internal combustion engine as a gallon of gasoline. This is owing to the superior efficiency of operation..."62 Other researchers confirmed the same phenomena around the same time.

The U.S. Geological Service and the U.S. Navy performed 2000 tests on alcohol and gasoline engines in 1907 and 1908 in Norfolk, Va. and St. Louis, Mo. They found that much higher engine compression ratios could be achieved with alcohol than with gasoline........ "In regard to general cleanliness, such as absence of smoke and disagreeable odors, alcohol has many advantages over gasoline or kerosene as a fuel," the report said. "The exhaust from an alcohol engine is never clouded with a black or grayish smoke."USGS continued the comparative tests and later noted that alcohol was "a more ideal fuel than gasoline" with better efficiency...
The British Fuel Research Board also tested alcohol and benzene mixtures around the turn of the century and just before World War I, finding that alcohol blends had better thermal efficiency than gasoline ...

http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Fuel_of_the_future.html


What, I guess you also believe the alcohol prohibiton was for "The Peoples" health. Guess what, same people and same reasons for both the Hemp and Alcohol prohibitions, Corporate Profit$!
 Im listening

Joined: 7/17/2005
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Posted: 8/5/2005 8:47:41 PM
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html


Given the millions afflicted with herpes this alone ought to increace the sales of bcbud

OH lighten up!
 Im listening

Joined: 7/17/2005
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:07:47 PM
http://www.cannabis.net/thc/index.html
get the restat the site cited
THE NECTAR OF DELIGHT

from
Plants of the Gods -
Their Sacred, Healing and Hallucinogenic Powers
by Richard Evans Schultes and Albert Hoffman
Healing Arts Press (Vermont) 1992


Tradition in India maintains that the gods sent man the Hemp plant so that he might attain delight, courage, and have heightened sexual desires. When nectar or Amrita dropped down from heaven, Cannabis sprouted from it. Another story tells how, when the gods, helped by demons, churned the milk ocean to obtain Amrita, one of the resulting nectars was Cannabis. It was consecrated to Shiva and was [the godess] Indra’s favourite drink. After the churning of the ocean, demons attempted to gain control of Amrita, but the gods were able to prevent this seizure, giving Cannabis the name Vijaya (“victory”) to commemorate their success. Ever since, this plant of the gods has been held in India to bestow supernatural powers on its users.

The partnership of Cannabis and man has existed now probably for ten thousand years – since the discovery of agriculture in the Old World. One of our oldest cultivars, Cannabis has been a five- purpose plant: as a source of hempen fibres; for its oil; for its akenes or “seeds,” consumed by man for food; for its narcotic properties; and therapeutically to treat a wide spectrum of ills in folk medicine and in modern pharmacopoeias.

Mainly because of its various uses, Cannabis has been taken to many regions around the world. Unusual things happen to plants after long association with man and agriculture. They are grown in new and strange environments and often have opportunities to hybridize that are not offered in their native habitats. They escape from cultivation and frequently become aggressive weeds. They may be changed through human selection for characteristics associated with a specific use. Many cultivated plants are so changed from their ancestral typed that it is not possible to unravel their evolutionary history. Such is not the case, however, with Cannabis. Yet, despite its long history as a major crop plant, Cannabis is still characterised more by what is not known about its biology than what is known.

The botanical classification of Cannabis has long been uncertain. Botanists have not agreed on the family to which Cannabis belongs; early investigators put it in the Nettle family (Urticaceae); later it was accommodated in the Fig family (Moraceae); the general trend today is to assign it to a special family, Cannabaceae, in which only Cannabis and Humulus, the genus of Hops, are members. There has even been disagreement as to how many species of Cannabis exist: whether the genus comprises one highly variable species or several distinct species. Evidence now strongly indicates that three species can be recognised: C. indica, C. ruderalia, and C. sativa. These species are distinguished by different growth habits, characters of the akenes, and especially by major differences in structure of the wood. Although all species possess cannabinols, there may possible be significant chemical differences, but the evidence is not yet available.

We cannot known now which of the several uses of Cannabis was earliest. Since plant uses normally proceed from the simpler to the more complex, one might presume that its useful fibers first attracted man’s attention. Indeed remains of hempen fibers have been found in the earliest archaeological sites in the cradles of Asiatic civilisation: evidence of fiber in China dating from 4000 B.C. and hempen rope and thread from Turkestan from 3000 B.C.. Stone beaters for pounding hemp fiber and impressions of hempen cord bakery into pottery have been found in ancient sites in Taiwan. Hempen fabrics have been found in Turkish sites of the late eighth century B.C., and there is a questionable specimen of Hemp in an Egyptian tomb dated between three and four thousand years ago.

The Indian vadas sang of Cannabis as one of the divine nectars, able to give man anything from good health and long life to visions of the gods. The Zend-Avesta of 600 B.C. mentions an intoxicating resin, and the Assyrians used Cannabis as an incense as early as the ninth century B.C..

Inscriptions from the Chou dynasty in China, dated 700-500 B.C., have a “negative” connotation that accompanies the ancient character for Cannabis, Ma, implying its stupefying properties. Since this idea obviously predated writing, the Pen Tsao Ching, written in A.D. 100 but going back to a legendary emperor, Shen-Nung, 2000 B.C., may be taken as evidence that the hallucinogenic properties at very early dates. It was said that Ma-fen (“Hemp fruit”) “if taken to excess, will produce hallucinations [literally, ‘seeing devils’]. If taken over a long term, it makes one communicate with spirits and lightens one’s body.” A Taoist priest wrote in the fifth century B.C. that Cannabis was employed by “necromancers, in combination with Ginseng, to set forward time and reveal future events.” In these early periods, use of Cannabis as an hallucinogen was undoubtedly associated with Chinese shamanism, but by the time of European contact 1500 years later, shamanism had fallen into decline, and the use of the plant for inebriation seems to have ceased and had been forgotten. Its value in China then was primarily as a fiber source. There was, however, a continuous record of Hemp cultivation in China from Neolithic times, and it has been suggested that Cannabis may have originated in China, not in central Asia.

About 500 B.C. the Greek writer Herodotus described a marvelous bath of the Scythians, aggressive horsemen who swept out of the Transcaucasus eastward and westward. He reported that “they make a booth by fixing in the ground three sticks inclined toward one another, and stretching around them woollen plets which they arrange so as to fit as close as possible: inside the booth a dish is place upon the ground into which they put a number of red hot stones and then add some Hemp seed … immediately it smokes and gives out such a vapour as no Grecian vapour bath can exceed; the Scyths, delighted, shout for joy….”

Only recently, archaeologists have excavated frozen Scythian tombs in central Asia, dated between 500 and 300 B.C., and have found tripods and pelts, braziers and charcoal with remains of Cannabis leaves and fruit. It has generally been accepted that Cannabis originated in central Asia and that it was the Scythians who spread it westward to Europe.
 bonesbklyn

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lol
I agree with everyone that says we should tax it and free up cops and prison for real criminals
 pazoozoo

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Yes it should. Back in the good old days, I really enjoyed smoking the stuff,and before I die, I would like to sit back in a cloud of happiness again.
 kabiosile

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Well time to resurrect this thread. ..

This from the WSJ Enjoy!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123552248140364907.html




* FEBRUARY 25, 2009

California Legislator Sees Benefit in Legalizing Pot
By STU WOO

SAN FRANCISCO -- A state legislator proposed legalizing the sale of marijuana in California, saying the plan would generate more than $1 billion annually for the cash-strapped state.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano introduced a bill Monday that would legalize possession and sales of the drug for people aged 21 and older. The legislation would impose regulations and taxation similar to those for alcohol sales. Federal law makes it a crime to possess or sell marijuana, so the measure, if passed, would likely face an immediate legal challenge.

Mr. Ammiano, a San Francisco Democrat who is well known in the state as a champion of liberal causes, proposes a tax of $50 on an ounce of marijuana, which sells for a few hundred dollars on the street.

California's dire financial situation was the impetus for proposing the bill, said Quintin Mecke, a spokesman for Mr. Ammiano. The state, which last week closed a $42 billion budget deficit through steep spending cuts and tax increases, should be making money on pot sales, Mr. Mecke said. He estimated that marijuana is a $14 billion-a-year crop in California.

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Assemblyman Tom Ammiano says taxes on drug sales could help the state.
Assemblyman Tom Ammiano says taxes on drug sales could help the state.

The pot-legalization bill will be up against significant opposition. "It's one of these [proposals] that is based on fallacious assumption that if we could only legalize marijuana, that we will have fiscal and social Shangri-La," said John Lovell, a lobbyist who represents three California police groups.

California has been drifting toward more-permissive approaches to pot. Various ways of decriminalizing marijuana have been considered for years in the state. In 1996, state voters passed a ballot initiative legalizing medical-marijuana use. Medical-pot regulation has been left largely to local jurisdictions, rather than statewide agencies.

But last summer, California Attorney General Jerry Brown created controversy by issuing restrictive new guidelines on how medical-marijuana operations should do business. He said that they should be small nonprofits and indicated that larger operations may be operating illegally.

A Zogby poll commissioned by a group that backs legalization found last week that 58% of West Coast respondents approved of selling and taxing marijuana like alcohol or cigarettes. A Rasmussen poll last week found that 40% of people nationwide support legalizing marijuana, with 46% against.

A spokeswoman at NORML, a group that backs legalization, said about a dozen states have decriminalized the use or possession of pot in some way. Alaska has one of the nation's most-relaxed rules, with no penalty for possessing one ounce or less in a residence.
—Justin Scheck contributed to this article.


I think it is high time the government get out of peoples business and stop the prohibition mentality it is only causing organized crime. At least if made legal it would no longer be a criminal issue. If you live or have visited out west you can see first hand what prohibition laws cause. Just like with Alcohol during it's time of prohibition the organized crime groups spring up all over the place to cash in. Legalize it and they have to go find some other way to make money. Same thing goes here as well. It's a no brainer really. The laws are causing more harm then the substance ever could....

Glad to see California leading the way to a more sane approach. I wont hold my breath it will pass but, glad to see the discussion being started. Some day it will be legalized... When people get tired of organized crime they will wake up and legalize. It worked with Alcohol and would work with this even easier..
 betterlate

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YES, I dont smoke at all but it may be the only thing that will save California

The only reason it is agaisnt the law is because the cotton farmers paid for the law and had that film made, Refer Madness to scare the crap out of everyone. They didnt want hemp farmers in the United States.

That is history again, greed and corruption in our government ...
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