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Posted: 8/22/2006 5:30:56 PM | So Jealous I am (yoda talk) Yes, I'm a little geeky...I like sci fi too SO WHAT
And with regard to Nickelback comparison? NO comparison. Tool at least has time signature changes on a regular basis....oh yeah! Learning "Vicarious" on guitar as we speak...! Have fun at the concerts to come dudes... | |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 5:40:31 PM | ^^^Thanks guitarchick. September 25th in Cleveland, Ohio (Cleveland rocks!).
Their music is actually pretty complex and yes I do enjoy the time changes and how tight the band plays them. They didn't become so popular by accident while remaining as anomymous as possible. Some people may complain about some slower spots but for me being a progressive music lover as well, it fits nicely.
Heck I can sit down and listen to Umma-Gumma from Floyd all the way through and enjoy every note. If it is good, it is good. Period. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 11:48:03 PM | I still miss the pure power and ferocity of Undertow. This will be my favorite followed closely (very) by Aenima. Then probably 10,000 Days followed by Lateralus.
I have to second this. In my opinion, nothing has equalled Undertow or Aenima. Though I reference Salival in my profile, it's more in the context of the included video DVD; Salival, in and of itself, is not an outstanding disc.
And, btw, love them or hate them, Tool's videos, though far too few, are awesome. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 12:15:08 AM |
Salival, in and of itself, is not an outstanding disc.
I think Merkaba and No Quarter make that album VERY CLOSE to outstanding....
I also think the diversity, lyrical imagery, and flow of Lateralus put it above Aenima...
...shit...Lateralus even flows perfectly from Third Eye....
...but the diverse elements (talk box, percussion, vocal styles) and constant shifting time of 10,000 days makes it their best album yet...
...Yup, in my mind they just keep getting better with each release...that even holds true for the artwork...f*ckin' unbelievable....
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Posted: 8/23/2006 2:17:22 AM |
Yup, in my mind they just keep getting better with each release...that even holds true for the artwork...f*ckin' unbelievable....
OMG, I don't think anything will surpass 10,000 Days in that regard, even Salival. My very first Tool CD was bought at one of those big-box stores that sold the bar-code version of Undertow, so it took me a while to fully appreciate the beautifully twisted artwork.
Trust me, I will never shop there again. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 6:01:08 PM | I have been putting a more critical ear to this release over the past week. This is a very intelligent record, period. The more I listen, the more I am getting into its complexity and it does rock out! It gave me goosebumps a few times tonight listening while doing housework. Goosebumps are a VERY good sign.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:45:38 PM | Thanks for the info Lotslove! I'll have to put that on my calendar, would LOVE to see them live. Do they actually pull it off live? Hope so... You can hear a Rush influence in their music. This CD is definitely intelligent and has a lot of depth to it. It's a very dynamic record, I can't get enough of it! One of the better releases in recent daze....
Goosebumps are a good sign... | |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 1:04:54 AM | There are parts of Pushit that sound like Rush.
The new album is great. Not as instant as the rest of their albums, though. It's tough trying to make out their time signatures. They love 7/8.
I guess their next album will come out when? 2011? | |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 3:39:57 AM | One of the guys I am going to the show with says it's a show that you sit and watch because it is that "unexplainably awesome".
He says after the show you just keep saying how great the show was but you can't explain it to anyone who didn't see it. It has to be seen.
He says the crowd is more set on "watching" the show instead of going insane like a Slayer show for instance. He says you HAVE to see Tool live. | |
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| new TOOL album - 10 000 Days
Posted: 8/30/2006 10:04:57 PM |
I actually started listening to Tool because of Bill Hicks
That's funny because I first heard Bill Hicks in '99, started listening to Tool '01, yet didn't know of the "relationship" until this year. Yea, I'm outta the loop, but it's still kinda weird. (Twilight Zone theme)
I have been listening to this CD non-stop. I think it is one of the few CD’s in a long time that I have been able to listen to from beginning to end without finding a bad track
I couldn't agree more. Tool is one of three bands I can press play and let it go. The skip button is banned and I don't touch random.
Before I bought the album I read several customer reviews on a [cough]music[cough]website and thought I'd paraphrase some of the more interesting comments.
"with 11 tracks on the album, 5 or 6 of them are actual 'songs' with Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot being the stand out tracks...the rest are fillers."
"the packaging for this CD is the best I've ever seen...the artwork is an experience in itself."
Filler? Yea, I'm sure they were so hard up for material and just couldn't get the ol' creative juices flowing after 5 years sitting on their butts, so they just whipped up a few jingles on the four-track. Lazy musicians. I must have missed the day in music theory when they explained that an album is only considered "complete" if it consists of at least 10 songs, in AABA form, and 3-4 minutes in length. But I'm sure glad they made a kicka$$ CD case. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2006 1:17:42 PM | ^^^I couldn't agree more with your post. This album is perfect just the way it is. It is like an adventure. I read that exact review some time back and just laughed.
The thing is this is the type of album we will still break out 5 or 10 years down the road. For me that is how I guage how good an album is. This is not the "flash in the pan" so many current artists are putting out that have a "wow" factor up front but the novelty quickly wears off.
This kind of music is too intelligent/complex a style for some listeners who listen to music as a "trendy pastime" rather than appreciate what it takes to put together something so diverse and meaningful. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2006 12:08:29 PM | I saw the show Monday night and it was soo awesome an overall show I can't even begin to explain it. Loud, clean, and visually mind-blowing.
If you can get there, go no matter what it takes | |
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Posted: 9/30/2006 2:22:16 PM | | The new cd is okayyy. I'm a long-time fan so I just had to go see them at Street Scene. Maynard looked dead sexy, but I was being crushed in the front, so I had to enjoy them from the back. That sucked. :( | |
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Posted: 9/30/2006 2:42:54 PM | I think Tool are overrated. Maynard has a good voice, and some of their material is the best prog metal I have heard in the past 10 years (and yes Tool are metal whether the band or their fans will admit it or not).
But they screw around too much. Half of the songs on their new album just sleep. The two best songs "Vicarious" (which made me buy the album) and "The Pot" are both excellent prog metal songs. They are also the two singles from the album which isn't surprising. But overall, Tool are a little pretentious and self-indulgent for me. I have never liked "Sober". That song bores the crap out of me. Why it's considered a classic I will never know.
I tried to finally break down and get into this band this year, but my feelings that they're overrated have been pretty much confirmed. Aenima and Lateralus are pretty good albums, but I've heard way better.
I dunno. I don't quite get the cult that surrounds this band. I guess it's their mystique (the costumes earlier in their career, the long delays between albums, their album packaging), radio/media hype/push and cryptic lyrics. I also don't think their fans have been exposed to better, far more exciting bands. Give me Nevermore, Opeth, Hammers of Misfortune, or Blind Guardian anyday.
Of course those bands have never had a gold, platinum album or top 40 hit, so they must suck. 
Maynard sexy? Hmmm. I finally saw what they looked like on a cover of Revolver. I can see why they didn't want anyone to know what they really looked like for so many years.
This kind of music is too intelligent/complex a style for some listeners who listen to music as a "trendy pastime" rather than appreciate what it takes to put together something so diverse and meaningful.
If anything, Tool are mainstream and not great in that regard. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 1:59:51 PM | very dissapointed by 10,000 days. Saw them in concert since the release. Best lighting/stage show of all the tours (I think this was my 7th tool show or something like that...)...but worst set list. When they performed Lateralus it was the highlight of the whole show...but it wasn't the last song... As for the artwork - they perfected that with the collateral produced for Lateralus with Alex Gray. The culmination being the last 30 seconds of the Parabola video ...which is just the greatest damn CG thing you'll ever see... Again - new album just had a 3D gimmick. It was "cool" but not very artistic....see the problem? Adam seems to be stylistically stuck in a rut too - the videos (other than the Alex Gray parts) have been the same for ten years now... gray weird looking couples from Ossius Labrint (not sure the spelling) with things coming out of them...growing out of them...falling from them... weird claymation people running around... teeth...white/gray windowless rooms.... C'mon guy...stop milking this formula...
These guys are in their 40s now though, most of their core audience at this point wasn't even into double digits when Opiate came out (hell, I was only 11). They've gotta just be too fat and happy now to put any serious thought into it... | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 12:39:50 AM |
Give me Nevermore, Opeth, Hammers of Misfortune, or Blind Guardian anyday
I love Opeth too...one of the greatest prog metal bands ever....but how you can compare these bands to Tool is beyond me....the ONLY thing that makes Tool "metal" is Jones' "chug-a-chug" rhythm style....they are prog rock plain and simple....
If anything, Tool are mainstream and not great in that regard.
Oh common...they may have gained the popularity of a semi-mainstream band...but try focusing on the music instead of the fact that they are getting more publicity now....
...it's funny that your two favorite tracks on the album are the most "accessable"....
99.9% of the mainstream bands CAN'T compose anything remotely close to what Tool puts together....
Danny Carey is a monster...and he shows it more than ever on 10,000 days....
...but then again...to a lot of people...a complex time signature may go unnoticed...
he drives that band...and Maynards spiritual, personal, and FAR from cryptic lyrics make them just a little more special....Jones is not my fav....but I've begun to appreciate the "less is more" attitude that he has...
...but in the end...OBVIOUSLY anyone who still thinks that Tool is metal is gonna be disappointed in their new album.... | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 5:06:46 AM | The new album doesn't fit the current "instant gratification society" trend so some will put no effort into giving it a fair spin. I have well over 600 cds at the moment and this album in no way dissappoints. It's just not for the ADD sufferers.
No matter what album they put out, there will always be those who will cry about it.
The show was amazing AND the artwork in the cd was amazing. Show me another cd with better artwork. Show me a better show.
I hear so much rubbish out there today. So many bands trying to be different and have their own sound and yet they just end up sounding the same or like they are trying too hard to be different.
Quit crying. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2006 11:07:15 AM | "I still miss the pure power and ferocity of Undertow."
I have to completly agrre with statement,shit I play undertow atleast 4 times a week,and when it comes to the new album. I love it,maynard was really reaching on this one,the whole band was. I am bais though. In my opinion maynard is the ****ing very best song writer yet to walk on this planet. Undertow was such a heavy hitting album. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2006 9:33:33 AM | | i found tool this year late i know it has been the album of the year they a band i would love to see live my boy loves this cd to but for him trivium the crusade has been the best this year. my friend says the best this year is a matter of life and death iron maiden. so does 10,000 days get it or is there a better album this year | |
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Posted: 12/10/2006 3:52:34 PM | | It took me a really long time to get into this new album but i defenitly cant put it down now..the lyrics and Maynard's vocals are fantastic!! | |
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Posted: 12/16/2006 7:15:02 PM | I'm jealous of all the people able to see Tool play live. Not going to happen in my part of the world.
10,000 days has grown on me, but will never see as much time in my CD player as Undertow or AEnima. The music just isn't as technically interesting and exciting, and the themes and lyrics have become too mainstream.
For better or for worse, they are a much different band than they were ten years ago. | |
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