| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/27/2008 7:08:42 PM |
True love conquers all does it...if that's the case then there wouldn't be divorce in 50% of marriages?
Have you considered that the 50% of failed marriages are from people who coupled with their mate for external reasons? Is that really true love? Or are you saying that people only marry for true love?  | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/27/2008 7:53:42 PM | It's not 5'10" - it is 6' even.
Confirmed by military measurements. Boots removed.
I honestly don't understand WHY would short guys moan about SOME women not wanting them.
Geeez!
A guy doesn't want me because of my light hair or blue eyes or any other physical attribute, I take my monkey business elsewhere.
How difficult is that?
Trust me when I say that, it makes you WHOLE LOT better when your honey just can't keep her hands off you. Why be somewhere you're unwanted? Don't you have pride? Love yourself! Go where others appreciate you!
I'm sorry, but life IS NOT fair, quit ****ing and go after a chick who IS into you.
What's so darned difficult?? | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/27/2008 9:25:21 PM | Funny how it is all a matter of preference until you do not meet someone's preference and then it goes from preference to shallowness? I could not care if someone did not hair color(happened before) I do not go out an color it because someone did not like it. If someone does not like something about me, either something I can change or not, I move along. I do not sit down to ice cream, put on bad tunes and cry "why me."
We all like certain things. Short men have short man symdrome. S&M stands for Short and Male:and I'm pissed.
I date 5'10 and taller. It's all about the shoes.
~Carrie | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/28/2008 3:26:45 PM | I prefer men who are taller than myself, for the simple fact that it makes activities easier to accomplish 
I've dated shorter guys, and it doesn't make a huge noticeable difference, I think its just the convenience factor! | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/28/2008 3:42:57 PM | Of course they're external reasons. If I wanna see a gut pile all day I'd go shoot and field dress a deer!
Thank goodness I'm 6' tall. Plus, the way I always bounce around, people think I'm taller.
My own preferance, I like women shorter than myself. Just something about the way we fit. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/28/2008 5:19:15 PM | Gawd... it's soooo hard NOT to respond to these threads. I guess we all break down sooner or later....
I honestly don't understand WHY would short guys moan about SOME women not wanting them.
I don't intend to pick on anyone in particular since this is a common enough sentiment. Furthermore, the quotee does have a point in that the fraction of women for whom shortness is an actual dealbreaker is definitely overstated. As an aside, women who have weak tall-preferences, or that prefer short men, have a huge advantage over those who do not in terms of having available to them a large pool of high quality men that are undervalued on the dating market. That's just economics at work - you get more bang for your buck with short men because of lower demand.
But I digress...
I honestly don't understand WHY would short guys moan about SOME women not wanting them.
I'll assume that we're talking about SOME short men, since we all know about fallacies in generalization around here. What it boils down to is that people respond to how they see the world and not necessarily reality. What some, perhaps even many, short men see is a dating bias which is larger than anything short of a criminal record. They're not seeing SOME women not wanting them. They're seeing MOST women not wanting them. This is of course exaggerated ever further online. I don't know what the average perception of "most" is in this context, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was something on the order of 90% or so. Anyway, two things happen now. 1) The pool of available women looks awfully big compared to the number that will give the guy the time of day, and 2) the tallness preference looks more like a value judgment rather than an incompatibility.
I would encourage anyone to just consider this: take any single characteristic of yours, physical or otherwise. Now, imagine that you're single, looking, and have to be the initiator of a date (you have to do the asking). Now, before ANYTHING else, 90% of the people you ask out will flatly reject you on that single characteristic - the remaining 10% will reject you at the normal rate depending on other factors.
Trust me when I say that, it makes you WHOLE LOT better when your honey just can't keep her hands off you. Why be somewhere you're unwanted? Don't you have pride? Love yourself! Go where others appreciate you!
I couldn't agree more. The predicament some short men are in, is that they have absolutely no idea where those that would appreciate them are. (Any women who ARE open to this, put in your interests "short men"!) | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/28/2008 5:35:44 PM | IQF
Very well reasoned post and pretty much spot on. Height is a "must have" for some women and and a "nice to have" for others. We're not Kreskin so it would behoove us to test the waters and see how steadfast she is.
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 7/28/2008 5:43:24 PM | | In the past I dated men who were taller than me. In the recent past, they have been my height or pretty close. It doesn't matter either way as long as you are enjoying each other's company, lol. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/27/2008 10:36:04 AM |
True love conquers all does it...if that's the case then there wouldn't be divorce in 50% of marriages?
Have you considered that the 50% of failed marriages are from people who coupled with their mate for external reasons? Is that really true love? Or are you saying that people only marry for true love?
I'm saying that very few people get married without the feeling they are in love...if we could all put aside factors such as height, weight, annoying laugh, driving too fast, being a couch potato, drinking too much...then love would be truly conquering all. What I'm saying is that if you settle it's much worse--no matter how much you WANT it to work it probably won't. You can't change people and you can't save people....and sometimes you can't even change some things about yourself. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/27/2008 2:03:54 PM | for men, how short is short really?
5'6" - i consider normal.
5'3" - a bit short.
5' - abnormally short.
the thing that put women off abnormally short guys is not that much about the physical height, it is more of their napoleon's syndrome. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/27/2008 5:43:27 PM |
the thing that put women off abnormally short guys is not that much about the physical height, it is more of their napoleon's syndrome.
The science seems to indicate that "napoleon syndrome" is actually a false stereotype, and that shorter men are not more likely to be aggressive compared to taller men. Furthermore, it's more than a little bit offensive. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/27/2008 8:20:44 PM | A guy doesn't want me because of my light hair or blue eyes or any other physical attribute, I take my monkey business elsewhere.
How difficult is that?
I could not care if someone did not hair color(happened before) I do not go out an color it because someone did not like it.
There is one difference between hair or eye color and height. I highly doubt that a large percentage of men would reject a woman simply because she has blue eyes instead of brown eyes. However I think the majority of women ( at least on dating sites ) would reject a man simply because he is under a certain height. Therefore a shorter man would have a much smaller dating pool than a woman with a certain hair or eye color. If a woman is rejected by a man because of her hair or eye color, she could easily find a bunch of other men that would date her or at least don't have hair or eye color requirements. That isn't necessary the case for short men.
Short men have short man symdrome. S&M stands for Short and Male:and I'm pissed.
It's not necessary the height requirement itself that bothers many men. It's the false and stereotypical reasons why many women have a height requirement. Such as short men have Napoleon Complex, taller men can protect a woman better, taller men have better genes etc. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/27/2008 8:40:18 PM |
It's not necessary the height requirement itself that bothers many men. It's the false and stereotypical reasons why many women have a height requirement. Such as short men have Napoleon Complex, taller men can protect a woman better, taller men have better genes etc.
I agree. People should be able to date whoever they want. However when their requirements are based on false stereotypes and generalizations, then they should get some criticism for their viewpoints. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 12:47:08 AM | It's pretty much a given that every man, unless over 6'2" will exaggerate his height by at least 1 inch--but probably more like 2 or 3. So just subtract 3 inches off his stated height, and if you can live with that--then meet. We need to lower our expectations, but not our standards.
BTW: I used to date only tall men. I lowered my expectations, literally, and now have a preference for the UNDER 5'10", especially when they admit to me before our first date that they lied about their height on their profile to NOT get shut out before women could get to know them and learn how cool they really are. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 7:47:09 AM | I think there does seem to be a 5'10" standard.
To be totally honest, I wasn't even aware of such a standard until I 1st started checking sites like these, and noticing the number of women listing height requirements in their profile. I've also noticed enough forum posts on this site, by women claiming to have a preference about a guy's height. For whatever reason, 5'10" seems to be the height requirement most often listed.
It seems pretty shallow and superficial to me. But if a woman prefers to have a superficial preference, I guess that's her personal right.
It's pretty much a given that every man, unless over 6'2" will exaggerate his height by at least 1 inch--but probably more like 2 or 3. So just subtract 3 inches off his stated height, I honestly did not know that.
Stupid me, I was honest and listed my true height on my profile.
Do the women, who read my profile, all assume that I am actually 2 or 3 inches shorter than I listed?? | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 12:46:01 PM | I have noticed that "6" feet seems to be the standard. Now for all the tall gals out there, I totally understand (I'm 6'11" 1/4...think how it is for me!).
But I have noticed women shorter than 5'2", demanding only guys over 6...now that to me sounds a little ridiculous. I myself with someone over a foot shorter at times, feel like pedo sometimes... I have friends around the avg height ('5-10"?) and they have trouble at times, so i feel their pain.
IF there are women over 6 feet, please let me know!  | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 2:20:22 PM | Do the women, who read my profile, all assume that I am actually 2 or 3 inches shorter than I listed??
Some probably do, but definitely not all. People lie about numerous things on their profile, including their height. I think it's folly to automatically assume a person is a liar before you've even met them. I've read a few times on the boards how a man should take the number a woman gives him of how many sexual partners she's had and multiple it by 3. Frankly, I wouldn't want to deal with a man who thinks I'm a liar just because I'm a girl. I think it's always best to stick with honesty.
If you're worried about it though, you can always post a picture of yourself near a door. Just be sure to have someone else take the picture so the viewer can reference your height against the door. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 2:25:54 PM |
It's pretty much a given that every man, unless over 6'2" will exaggerate his height by at least 1 inch--but probably more like 2 or 3. So just subtract 3 inches off his stated height,
Some men lie about their height, but you can't generalize all men based on some experiences. That would be like someone saying that all or most women lie about their age or weight. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 4:54:28 PM | True most people lie over...
In my case if i was lying, that means im really 6'9"? lol. But alas if anything im giving my height at the end of the day! I may be 7' in the morning, then shrink to 611" by the end of day 
Not many people lie, saying they're "heavier" though ironically... | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 6:05:40 PM | Why taller though & not thicker/stronger? Why do women focus on height, specifically? Do women think they have bigger penises or what?  I can understand a very tall gal wanting a guy a bit taller than she is, but what is up with these shorties (women) wanting guys that are 5'10" or more tall? Weird.
I know plenty of 6'3" guys that are of average build or are toothpicks & they don't seem to have any exceptional confidence. Most dudes of 6'5" move out of my way on the rarity I'm in a club or bar & walking in a straight line towards them. It's a great feeling! I even notice that very tall guys work out less often & less intensely, on an average. Trust me, after 19yrs in gyms, I know.
I'm 5'11" but weigh a muscular 246lbs & am insanely strong. I used to weigh a measely 153lbs (17yrs ago) & had a little man complex which is what got me into football & then bodybuilding. I decided to get huge because I felt small. Ironic, eh? I love my development now but being young & insecure sure sucked. I can relate to these short & small guys as I felt that way for over two decades.
My best buddy is 5'5". I think women are pretty cruel to discount some guys of great character, some are even quite built, just because they're not tall. 
Time to  ...
~ Alex.  | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 6:47:58 PM |
I think women are pretty cruel to discount some guys of great character, some are even quite built, just because they're not tall.
It seems pretty shallow and superficial to me. But if a woman prefers to have a superficial preference, I guess that's her personal right.
It goes both ways actually. Men discriminate because of a woman's weight. Do you think that men are cruel, or shallow, or superficial when they specify that they are only interested in slender women? That's not a big deal, really. It's called preference. Just try to date people who find your body type attractive. | |
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| The 5'10 Standard...Truth or Myth?
Posted: 8/28/2008 7:04:05 PM | | I'm 5' 10" and I had no idea until right now that 5' 10" was the generally accepted cut-off point of stature. I always thought it was 6'. | |
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