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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:15:25 AM | "I think we are the creators of our own destinies ... to an extent ... but with realistic limitations. We can control our education, learning, what we choose to experience, career paths to take, how much effort we put into things ... but we cannot control what others may do to us, or being struck down by illnesses of varying types."
Annonimiss - In reference to what you wrote down how does one control their education? If we have the example of someone who lives on the streets; what control does that person have for their future. It is not easy to move away from that environment depending on the reasons why you are on the street e.g. domestic violence, sexual abuse, drug & alcohol abuse, mental health issues, unable to pay for rent, orphan, etc etc.
The opportunities that a child has e.g. nurturing, the socio-economic of the parents, the general health would determine if she/he has control of the education and therefore learning. There is no choice in that it's either there or not. An adult who has been deprived all his/her life often has little choices because they are not there to start with. The environment one has grown up in and is exposed to influences choices and the capacity for individuals to make choices for their destiny based on what they have around them. It is not a given.
I think we run the risk of blaming individuals for their destiny where as in my view if the individual has not been given tools (emotional, physical, financial) then there is no choice of destiny, but rather get driven by the will of others. Cheers. A. | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/26/2009 12:06:51 PM | I am not speaking for anyone else across the world, but here in Canada, I believe almost anyone has the power to create their own destiny. The public education is decent, there are many programs available to upgrade, student loans programs, etc. There are also many groups to help the marginalized citizens. If you take full advantage of any of these programs you have a shot at success.
I've lived below the poverty line, at the line, and now above it. Years of sacrifices and hard work has left me in a place where I make my own decisions and earn my income legally and ethically. Often those that do not believe they have control of their own destiny have not looked at all their options and usually want to take the easy road.
Do whatever it takes to be happy and successful, work 70hrs/week, don't drink/smoke, don't eat out, cable, cell, etc. are all just extras... | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/26/2009 2:33:30 PM | CarolinaLilly - "Often those that do not believe they have control of their own destiny have not looked at all their options and usually want to take the easy road."
To be able to look at all the options requires a levels of understanding, that there are options to look at, have the emotional maturity to follow through, have the physical capacity to do it and are emotionally free to do it. Not everyone is in that space. I live in Australia and there are at least 100,000 people every night sleeping on the streets. Now this is an affluent society who would think that this is the case ... yet it happens for multiple reasons.
CarolinaLilly - you demonstrate exactly what I am afraid of ... blaming the individual for all their deficits. I continue to assert there are other influences that impact on the capacity of an individual to determine his/her future. Cheers. A. | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/27/2009 2:58:54 AM | CarolinaLilly - you demonstrate exactly what I am afraid of ... blaming the individual for all their deficits. I continue to assert there are other influences that impact on the capacity of an individual to determine his/her future.
This poster has expressed her opinion, as you have expressed yours, annabelle1962.
My opinion is this; the courts are full of people who are no longer accountable for their actions.
Everyone looks for a "reason" other than looking to themselves. The drug affected blame "the drugs"..The child molesters, their own backgrounds and parents. The thieves, their lack of money...and the list goes on. We all have choices, even those who are marginalized. What about all those who came from those environments to triumph?. those who CHOSE not to take drugs, commit crime, or live on the street. Those of us conforming to rules everyday, and doing it tough, but having a belief in ourselves.
To continue to assert people have NO CHOICE makes me afraid. We then buy into, and feed a notion our actions can be excused away by circumstance. Tell that to Helen Keller- she was the first deaf/blind person to earn a Bachelor degree (Lucky she had a teacher that believed in her ability not her disability) or our own Frank Lowy...who became the richest man in Australia, from a life of despair and poverty.
We are the "rudders" of our own ships. | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:55:34 PM | "The future is not fixed; yet there is that force which is movement, which is on a collision course with other forces which are in movement, and when these energies come together, there can be much which is disharmonious as these energies reach their reconciliation. "
Magnetic720:
"Time", as in past, present and future is really an energetic line of movement that exists within each present moment. As such, anyone with pure intention can see clearly that the "war" between light and darkness is OVER NOW and that the Light has "won". Love IS the constant as "time" loops, history repeats itself and mass consciousness requires CHANGE/transformation. All is well, truly. No worries as Love IS. The idea of "separation" has ALWAYS been an illusion and is NOT a sustainable lifeform. | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 6/28/2009 1:31:42 PM | "CarolinaLilly - you demonstrate exactly what I am afraid of ... blaming the individual for all their deficits. I continue to assert there are other influences that impact on the capacity of an individual to determine his/her future. Cheers."
Annabelle:
There is NO blame or judgement involved with creating your own destiny. Simply put, our Souls are growing into conscious awareness of Self as Love incarnate. Unity Consciousness is the goal. Experience is our "Teacher" and how we can believe what is "real" and what is fake/fantasy. People born into belief systems that require "separation" from Love/God, get an opportunity to explore on a very experiencial level what this means and Learn SO much.In
Spirit all we experience is pure bliss, so imagine the Gift to be able to create a hollogram where you can experience opposites, pain/suffering vs. love/ecstasy...and as Stephen in the Bible, both at the same time!
Every Life, every experience, every "circumstance" is a Gift to teach us at a soul level WHAT Life IS, what the "meaning" of life is, who we truly are and ultimately where we BELONG. All of the "stories" of our life, our world are to be honored, respected, served, accepted as IS and valued for the opportunity to grow/move back HOME. As Mother Teresa said, " I will not participate in any demonstration that "fights" against anything. Show me a demonstration that promotes Love and I will be there." (paraphrased) It is very important that we understand in every experiencial way what it means to be separate from Love/God/Source....WE chose to DO THIS but it is NOT WHO WE ARE. Who we are IS eternal. We are just having a human experience right this moment, and even this experience is HOLY. | |
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| Do u agree with this saying that you are the creator of your own destiny!
Posted: 10/3/2009 1:38:16 AM |
The ancient Greeks had a saying: " Character is destiny ".
It's not so much what happens to you, it's how you handle what happens to you. Absolutely agree with this. There are things in life you have control over and things you don't have control over. But in the end, it is how you deal with what you are handed that creates your destiny. | |
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