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 stoneside

Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 26
The end of this 'nice guy' epic
Posted: 3/20/2006 12:59:06 PM
*SIGH*
Guys, STOP calling yourselves "nice guys". Problem solved.
It's not about being nice or a jerk, it's about getting out there and going after what you want.
 cuteandreal

Joined: 3/10/2006
Msg: 27
The end of this 'nice guy' epic
Posted: 3/20/2006 2:05:22 PM
It is an overused clichée...

Man says he's a nice guy...can't get a date...must because women are shallow...blah...blah...blahh....
 Airtight31

Joined: 3/2/2006
Msg: 28
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Posted: 3/21/2006 2:27:02 AM
So what im gettin is females dont arent sympathetic to the guy who totes himself as the poor nice guy. Why dont yall ladies tell them that, these dudes seem to think that yall are on their side // or is there more to this
 stoneside

Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 29
The end of this 'nice guy' epic
Posted: 3/21/2006 9:17:43 PM
I'm not sure anybody knows what a "nice guy/girl" is anymore.
 Airtight31

Joined: 3/2/2006
Msg: 30
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Posted: 3/23/2006 9:58:48 PM
hey this is bullshit man- I was interested in finally culminating this topic here, but since they wanna delete all the fantastic original threads I think up, shit I guess I havta limit myself to topics that have been on here since jan 05-- ironically the same ones they like to caution against as "redundant" .. the fuk outta here
 Airtight31

Joined: 3/2/2006
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Posted: 3/23/2006 9:59:44 PM
maybe this shouldnt be the end of the nice guy series if I cant put any new material on these forums
 HazelEyes23

Joined: 8/23/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 5/31/2006 2:36:25 PM
Men dont get that women like nice guys, we just dont want mops. lol
 pjbrownIII

Joined: 5/25/2006
Msg: 33
The end of this 'nice guy' epic
Posted: 5/31/2006 3:10:59 PM
Have a backbone/spine,i agree,never ever put those words in your profile(nice guy) and never kowtow or kiss up to a woman,,Be confident!!
 Adam Taylor

Joined: 5/11/2006
Msg: 34
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Posted: 5/31/2006 3:24:33 PM
There is a massive difference between the "nice guy" which women want... someone who's romantic, caring, a real gentleman...

And the "doormat" which woman don't want. The guy who has no backbone. Who gets walked all over constantly. Who won't make decisions. Who won't take charge.
Basically what is often referred to as a "spineless loser".

I get really sick and tired of seeing all these posts about "nice guys never get the girl".
Cause it's total crap.

I'm a nice guy. I'm a romantic and a gentleman. I treat a woman like a princess.
But I also know how to stand tall. How to speak up for myself. Take charge of a situation. Make a woman feel like she can really depend on me. Make her feel safe.

I've "gotten the girl" lots of times...
Because I let them see that while I may be a "nice guy"... I'm no pushover. I'm fun, adventurous, and self confidant.

Sorry if I sound like a jerk here... but really this whole thing just gets irritating as hell sometimes.
 butterflygrrl29

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 35
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Posted: 5/31/2006 3:43:56 PM
Or how about "I'm a nice guy; to a fault"... What's up with that? It's a huge warning sign that I should have picked up on once before... I call it the "victim's syndrome". To me this is a sign that the guy feels horribly sorry for himself and thinks that every woman is after something... At the same time totally disregarding the fact that there are many other reasons that turn women off from him.

Also, the guys with victim's syndrome post things in their profiles like "I don't like players, users, or people who play head games." Who would actually like those things? So why does this "victim" feel the need to post that he doesn't like it? That's like saying "I don't like people who commit armed robberies"
 outdoregrl

Joined: 4/28/2006
Msg: 36
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Posted: 5/31/2006 3:49:32 PM
here's my perspective on some men

nice guy can also be a bad boy behind closed doors bad meaning naughty,adventurous,etc..

there's guys that come across as nice guys at the beginning but use it as a ploy to reel u in and when your reeled he becomes the opposite bad tempered,lack of patients,jealous,etc..

then there's bad boy who is just all about being a player and he's up front about

and of course there's the nice guy who is shy and doesn't take charge and who's boring.

i personally like a guy who's classy "nice guy" but has "bad boy" tendencies like adventurous,fun and full of surprises.
 luckyone38

Joined: 4/14/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 5/31/2006 3:54:47 PM
^^^^ i personally like a guy who's classy "nice guy" but has "bad boy" tendencies like adventurous,fun and full of surprises"


Theres a few of us around.
 genius101

Joined: 7/7/2005
Msg: 38
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:11:16 PM
I don't know why people spend so much time on this one.

I am one of those nice guys who never gets a date, but I don't blame it on me being nice. That's not it. It may be in some particular cases, but who cares?

Yes, maybe it's not fair that a guy as nice as I am ends up single for so long, while some wife-beater has the beautiful woman, but I'm not going to complain because life isn't fair. I have to change myself, not other people. And to a certain extent, I don't even want to change myself, just find someone who will accept me. If she's not interested, then I'm not either.

Sometimes girls have been abused and they seek out jerks because they are trying to recreate that trauma. Guys, you don't want those girls anyway. Not until they get their act together. And for those girls, go for us nice boring guys, even though we're boring because we will treat you right. But go get some therapy or I, for one, won't be interested.
 Adam Taylor

Joined: 5/11/2006
Msg: 39
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:16:54 PM
genius, you're different than most of the "nice guy crybabies".

And you've got it right. A woman should love you for who you are. Never change yourself for anyone.

Women tend to go for the "nice guy with bad boy tendencies" like someone else mentioned.
But even if you're not like that... it shouldn't matter.

The only problem is when those people start complaining about it.
If they're so unhappy with things, then do something about it.
But sitting there whining, isn't going to make the ladies think any better of them.
 pjbrownIII

Joined: 5/25/2006
Msg: 40
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:47:16 PM
Wow,,so many different opinions on this,,,yeah Genius101,,life and love aint fair to the nice guy.
Your also right about women seeking out the same man over and over again to recreate that trauma.
I dont consider myself a nice guy,,im a flirty person and i like to tease women and i also like to remain mysterious.
Its all in having a backbone.
 pjbrownIII

Joined: 5/25/2006
Msg: 41
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:47:27 PM
oops
 outdoregrl

Joined: 4/28/2006
Msg: 42
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Posted: 5/31/2006 7:03:45 PM
Who needs a nice boring guy when u can find a nice fun guy. I mean do u want a nice boring woman or a nice fun woman,lol,come on now.
 Stonewolf_II

Joined: 5/17/2006
Msg: 43
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Posted: 5/31/2006 8:26:17 PM
I love the nice guy threads and the BBW threads.

Constant entertainment.



Maybe someone should suggest that all the nice guys ask the BBWs out. That'd eliminate some threads.

Just think, no more "I'll grovel till she looks down on me and takes pity" or "If men weren't so shallow I'd be asked out" epic novels where no one seems to read the answers.

jeez louise

Lets see how much s--- that one attracts!
 HazelEyes23

Joined: 8/23/2005
Msg: 44
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Posted: 5/31/2006 8:49:50 PM
I always hear about these threads, the BBW ones and the nice guy ones, but I NEVER see them. I think if you are a BBW complaining that you cant get a date, you should get over it right away (no, Im not saying YOU, im saying them). I am Big and I have had plenty of dates and some REALLY good relationships. You attract what you put out.
Second of all Guys think they're nice, what they REALLY are is doormats. If I shake a guys hand and it isnt at least as firm as mine, Its not a good start for me. Everything you do and say says something about you. You can be nice and still have a personality, a lot of guys are failing to notice this. I want a guy that can stand on his own, take my joking around and being a smart ass and have a good time with me. If I say something, I expect a come back. I dont want to hear "Im too nice to respond" WTF? I want you to, I wanna play around, take the stick outta your butt, lol.
Anyway, just some INFO for you nice guys.
 genius101

Joined: 7/7/2005
Msg: 45
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Posted: 5/31/2006 10:50:57 PM
ourdoorgirl. Well, there are different ideas of fun. I'm a math student. My idea of fun is not the same as most. So by most people's standards, yes, I want a boring woman. Seriously, I don't know what I want.

You don't have to go to the extreme of dating one of the Boredom Gods like me.
 Markvegas

Joined: 4/12/2006
Msg: 46
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Posted: 5/31/2006 11:35:38 PM
http://www.heartless-****es.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml

http://www.datingdummies.com/nice_guy_test.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy_syndrome

http://www.nomoremrniceguy.com/
 outdoregrl

Joined: 4/28/2006
Msg: 47
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Posted: 6/1/2006 12:57:59 PM
genius, if u don't know "what u want",then sit down and think about it. U sit down and think about how to solve math problems don't u? Genius, fun is what ever u make it to be. It's up to the person. By the way,who cares if other people find your idea of fun boring.Here's an example of my kind of fun depending on my mood . camping,hiking,the beach,cooking,boating,bird watching,museums,reading national geographic or anything related to there topics and books on pyschology. i could go on and on. Listen to this,i had a boyfriend once who i would relax w/ lay back and read the bible or out door mags with. i enjoyed that,it was fun.
 Sarahv

Joined: 1/29/2006
Msg: 48
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Posted: 6/1/2006 5:25:02 PM
Nice guys are cruise'm use'm and lose'm . But only if they have at least something to offer otherwise where's the nearest biker bash ?
 thegreatrockyhill

Joined: 12/26/2005
Msg: 49
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Posted: 6/1/2006 6:46:17 PM
The whole "nice guys finish last" is a lie. It's rooted in sexism. It assumes that women are inferior to men, know it, and are comfortable with it. Therefore, they want to be treated like dirt by men. They want someone to "submit" too.

The idea emasculates men who respect and genuinely care about women because it makes them out to be unnatural since women are not equals and don't deserve to be treated well nor want to.

Women who love "jerks" fall into several categories...

1-They have low self-esteem.

2-They aren't nice people, and want someone with a toxic personality like them.

3-They are immature and like drama.

4-All of the above.

Bottom line- I don't wanna be with 'em anyway.

Villians may be cool and they may get away with what they do for a while, but they always get it in the end.

I consider myself to be a good person, and enough women have shown an interest in me for me to see the "women like jerks" mentality for what it is. Any women worth her salt wants to be treated well, and as an equal by her man. And any man worth a toss wants to treat his lady well and as an equal.

If you want to be treated poorly, then there is something wrong with you. Man or woman.

Thank you and goodnight. May we never se a thread like this again.
 thegreatrockyhill

Joined: 12/26/2005
Msg: 50
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Posted: 6/1/2006 7:09:33 PM
Let me say something else. The whole notion has also been used as an excuse for chavanistic attitudes and boorish, abusive behavior for decades.
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