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| | Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?Page 32 of 33 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33) | Nope.
I don't waste my time with greedy, paranoid people. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/6/2012 4:35:42 AM | absolutely,
and I think the relationship should be renegotiated every few years too.
say a three year contract review.
There is nothing more damaging to your financial status than a divorce.
If you are going into a marriage all polly anna - you will find out the hard way when the venom comes out (and I have yet to see a scenario where there wasn't and indeed, I know entirely too many lawyers that would agree with the battlefield of divorce - the man is pretty damned unarmed)
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/6/2012 6:41:33 AM |
Oh please, everyone knows (including them) that Hollywood marriages are doomed from the get go. AND If you are stupid like Jennifer Lopez and marry someone who makes 1/10th of the money she did, I'd say it was a good idea...
So you're saying that a prenup IS a good idea where there are inequalities in the relationship. Since there are very few marriages where the parties make exactly the same amount of money and will continue to do so for the duration of the marriage -- then a prenup is simply a good idea.
Usually such a differential is financial.... in fact, I believe a prenup is for the intents of equitable distribution (or redistribution) of money in the event of a split. A marriage is a contract and liable for termination of some sort. A prenup merely spells out the intent of the couple IF that occurs. A prenup protects assets you bring into a marriage IF the marriage is dissolved. A prenup doesn't cause a divorce. It's like a map to delineate what happens if you happen do end up in Divorce City.
I'm all for prenups, post-nups and periodic marital agreement updates; not simply for the overt theme of "sharing" what the married couple, as a single entity, makes; but also to ensure that both parties are in agreement with the direction of their finances and that they are both aware of the financial situation they live in.
And, except for the recent Kardashian fiasco, I don't believe that most Hollywood couples go into marriage believing they're doomed to failure. | |
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Tryns
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/6/2012 11:02:15 AM | Nobody goes into a marriage thinking it is a temporary thing....yet we still have 50% + divorce rates...so yeah a prenuptual agreement doesn't sound like such a bad thing.
However you should be realistic too...if you don't have anything to protect then why even bother?
In my case I own a small business and have other assets that I would want to protect and pass along to my children. I would want those assets protected by a prenuptual so that there would be no question that my kids would still inherit and continue running the business.
For those of you who think prenuptuals are a bad idea that's your choice....but I think you're being naive. Either you have nothing you need to protect, you don't believe people can change (for the worse) requiring a divorce or you really are looking to cash out should a divorce happen. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:46:08 AM | We signed one, the conversation around "what if" was really easy for us to have.
Of course we're planning on being together till death do us part but who knows what could happen? We both should be protected so as not to have one of us broke or destitute if the "big D" should transpire... | |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 1:24:57 PM | Funny you say that raina-kd....Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones have just that in place. She stands to pocket several million if he is unfaithful...
Honestly it seems like almost a joke these days, but here are a few zingers I really love!
"Adding a few extra pounds can cost more than the price of a new wardrobe. One wife's prenuptial agreement limited her weight to 120 lbs. Penalty for being over the fighting weight: she gives up $100,000 of her separate property.
Another prenuptial agreement included a $500 fine for each excess pound the wife gained. All's fair in lifestyle clauses - one wife added a maximum weight stipulation of 180 lbs. for her husband"
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"One client's prenuptial agreement limited her husband to watching one Sunday football game with friends. For a dedicated sports fan, such a choice could be tough. No word on if there was a clause about watching the first half of one game and then the second half of another.
In-law issues were covered in one prenup barring the mother-in-law from sleepover visits. Another prenuptial agreement encouraged one husband to curb his tongue around the in-laws. The consequences? He has to pony up $10,000 each time he's rude to his wife's parents"
AND FINALLY
"Sexual issues in prenuptial agreements can include how often a couple will have sex. One elderly pair settled on once a month while a younger couple agreed to 3-4 times a week. Other couples stipulated mandatory sexual positions"
Get my point?? | |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 2:41:53 PM | | Well hell yes! If I were to ever get married again, and I feel sure I won't, I would have a prenup! I lived with both, yes, both of my ex-husbands for years. Bought a house with one too! I am lucky, I am friends with both now! Unfortunately when you are divorcing, rarely are things nice and easy and agreeable! If you have your own money and your put it into the marriage account-you have now co-mingled money and can't get it back! Maybe I sound like a ****, but protect and take care of yourself! You get one shot! | |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 9:30:48 PM | | Some might say marriage is a contract, but it's a contract of love and commitment not finances and material things. That's a business deal. To save me from the aggravation, I would prefer to be with a guy that does not have much except love in his heart for me. I am not in love with his money. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/6/2012 9:48:18 PM | A pre-nup isn't about being paranoid, or disrespecting the woman that you are about to marry--although it certainly does get taken that way.
A pre-nup is just an insurance policy. Luckily, when I got divorced my ex-wife and I handled the arguing outside of court, and the problem was resolved--but had she been the kind of person to make a show out of it, she certainly could have hit me in the wallet. But she was completely against the idea of a pre-nup, and not wanting to make an argument out of something I assumed would be a non-issue anyway (we were going to be together forever, right?) I went along with it.
As much as I, and most people, would like to believe that marriage is about eternal love and commitment, bad things do happen and people do change. A pre-nup is the ONLY recourse that you have when it comes to planning ahead, legally.
And yet, women see this as some sort of high treason. I can see why: Many women feel that the playing field is unfairly balanced against them already, and that a pre-nup is just another way for a scheming, evil man to take advantage of you. That is an incredibly unfortunate way of viewing things. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/6/2012 11:48:41 PM |
Perhaps some might say I'm blinded by my emotions, but what kind of love is it if your materialistic objects and finances are streaming through your head before you've even begun you've journey?
Lol, if I had "tons of cash", the only way I don't sign a prenup is that person was with me from day one, when I didn't have $#@!, if not it has to be signed. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/7/2012 1:25:44 AM | I understand the reasoning and I cannot fault the widom. The arguments are rock solid.
I'm still not convinced.
A pre-nup is just an insurance policy
Sure, but against what? That is the question that stopped me in my tracks before my marriage. To move forward holding that thought in my heart did not jive with my understanding of what love is. To me, the pre-nup is about business and business has no business in my business.
Now Tryns up there, makes a totally valid point. Any woman he marries better agree to safeguard their assets for the sake of the children. What happens if you marry a single mom though? Presumably she might want to have the same assurances.
If I had a pre-nup then I would most certainly be in a much better financial situation right now. And that money would have come directly out of a teenaged girl's mouth. I couldn't live with that no matter what her mother did.
Doing the right thing and doing the smart thing are not always the same thing. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:51:29 AM | "Some might say marriage is a contract, but it's a contract of love and commitment not finances and material things."
Umm, that is exactly what marriage entails. One can appreciate your sentiment but you are factually incorrect.
"Finances and material things" explicitly come into play with the marriage contract and, in fact, financial issues are the primary factor in most divorces. Without a prenup, the Courts and the particular laws in your jurisdiction (which can change during the couse of a marriage) decide the financial issues upon divorce. If you want the marriage contract, why not make it as complete as possible like every other contract and work out the dissolution details in advance? When it comes to legal matters, it is always better (and less expensive) to know rather than to guess. Marriage IS a business contract and nobody starts either a marriage or a business anticipating that it will fail but most of them do. If you don't want the contract, then simply cohabitate -- works well for a lot of people.
Just don't understand why people who insist upon a contract would also insist that it be as vague and indeterminate as possible. It's okay to have a difference of opinions on prenups but one's opinion should be based upon facts and not rhetoric. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/8/2012 6:59:07 AM |
Some might say marriage is a contract, but it's a contract of love and commitment not finances and material things. That's a business deal. To save me from the aggravation, I would prefer to be with a guy that does not have much except love in his heart for me. I am not in love with his money.
I couldn't agree more Brenetha... I'm really shocked at all the yays on her for pre-nups. Kinda sad that what someone's *worth* weighs in as more important than what *we are all about*
Just my opinion | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/8/2012 9:51:35 AM | | Yes, I would sign a prenup. I was a struggling single parent, living way below the poverty level for many years. My children are my sole beneficieries on everything, pension, life insurance, bank accounts, etc. Also, my modest home is in my name, & that would go to my children also. They stuck w/me through all the hard times, & there is no way in hell anyone else would get what I've accumulated, as modest as it is. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 10:00:36 AM | I'd have no problem with a pre-nup as long as it was focused on distribution of assets in the event of a divorce.
Anything relating to the conditions of the marriage itself, however, would simply mean endless litigation and destruction of the assets in that process. Can you imagine the cost of trying to prove some of the stuff that was just posted--like, how do you "prove" you had sex (or didn't have sex), x number of times? It's can be very difficult to prove infidelity--that is one reason why states eventually decided that "no fault" was better, b/c litigating the "his fault/her fault" thing destroyed families and their assets.
What does "being rude" to someone's inlaws mean? I might say I'm just being funny and you might think I'm being rude. . .
Those kinds of things are all good to discuss and try to have an understanding on, but to prove? Waste of time and money. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/8/2012 3:10:21 PM | if my potential partner had much more than I, I would sign one.
that would give her and her family one less thing to worry about.
I bring it up. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/8/2012 3:40:42 PM | Absolutely!! Why not!! 
I've heard too many horror stories and men (more often than women I think) get screwed TOO MUCH and TOO HARD!! And I would not blame a guy for asking for one and it would certainly NOT hurt my feelings if he did!!
I'm not with him for his MATERIAL things!!  | |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:06:27 PM | "I thiink I´d prefer a pre-nup, with a clause about infidelity"
It´s already on the book.
I believe it sets on a million dollar per year lived together the compensation amount to be paid in case of divorce between Douglas and Zeta-Jones due to infidelity for anyone of them toward the other. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 6:28:26 PM | So many women who would refuse to sign the pre-nup...isn't it tantamount to the man just saying "Let's not bother with marriage, our love is enough."?
I'm sure that would send many women running for the hills and their grubby little mitts on someone else's fortune/potential fortune instead. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/8/2012 7:41:35 PM | marry at 20, both have nothing.
now, at 40 plus, it's a different story.
gold diggers and unrealistic dreamers might not what to sign on. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 9:51:01 PM | I must admit, this question has been on my mind since I first saw the OP.
My initial reaction was too harsh I think. I wasn't really considering the scenario where say I was interested in Tryns up there. I suppose if I was really into him, I could understand his argument and since I would have no reason or desire to take anything he brought into the marriage, I would probably sign a pre-nup.
Then again, it still wouldn't feel right and I might just walk based upon that alone. I don't know but I thought I'd mention that I'm not nearly as sure of my answer as I was at first. | |
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Tryns
| | Joined: 5/2/2011
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/9/2012 1:50:56 PM |
marry at 20, both have nothing.
now, at 40 plus, it's a different story.
gold diggers and unrealistic dreamers might not what to sign on.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Your answer to this question would vary considerably based on your age and accumulated assets.
I was married at 26 and had no need for a prenup because I had nothing to protect. It's a different story now though, and if I were to ever marry again I would never do so without a prenuptual agreement that protects my assets and business. It's just common sense really. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement?
Posted: 1/10/2012 11:09:11 AM |
Some might say marriage is a contract, but it's a contract of love and commitment not finances and material things.
Marriage is a social action that defines certain legal obligations upon each party -- usually in regards to making bonds of kinship or family. Marriage is even defined as 'the state of being united to a person in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law'. The original purposes of marriage were financial - the uniting of families, land, assets - and love had nothing to do with marriage.
Marriage is a contract --- which is an agreement of specific terms by two (or more) parties (i.e. individuals) delineating intentions or obligations. For instance, in a 'traditional marriage' he works and brings home the money while she cares for the home and children -- thus their obligations are defined.
Given that marriage is taking many more forms than the 'traditional', isn't it a good idea to be able to define expectations and obligations a little more explicitly? Isn't it a good idea to have your own imput into this legal situation? | |
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