| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 3:07:29 PM | | Even if you live with someone it is a requirement . This protects you and him . IF , I owned a mansion and had 64 million in the back she could wife me out . come to think of it . even having $24 ,000 in the back she can wipe that out . take off with the house . | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 3:16:58 PM | A pre=nup, in layman's terms, states:
"if ever we end up hating each other, I got your word that you won't attempt to spitefully get a grab at my earnings."
I see nothing wrong in making that promise legal. Marriage is the legal promise of love and faithfulness, after all. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 3:43:01 PM | | Absolutely would. If and when I marry again, it will be for love, not for his money. What better way to show him that it's the PERSON, not the financial situation, that I'm marrying? | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:12:08 PM | | The people who don't want to sign them are usually the ones that have nothing to lose. I have worked hard for what I have, and I would want to keep it all if the marriage were to go 'down the shitter' - so to speak. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:15:32 PM | This is quite the interesting post. I have read everyone's reads and now I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for an opinion. lol.
A little background. I have a great job and have started to establish myself. Let's leave it at that. Pre-nup? People work hard for their money and unfortunately statistics show that divorces are rampantly high with marriages. Latest article I read said 37% for first time Canadian marriages. Now entering into a marriage you have some savings, RRSP's, real-estate, whatever. With people marrying at a later age these days, more than likely they have started to accumulate a little wealth. Now when going into a marriage you should know someone very well but we all know that people do change as time goes on and life does go down unexpected routes. Now when things go sour, which can happen, that person who is feeling hurt or angy may have that natural tendancy to take the other person for all they are worth and actually go through it. Cold, but by no stretch of the imagination it can be true. All a prenup is saying that before we entered the relationship I'd like to keep my assets intact and retain them (more below on this). Everything accumulated during the relationship though then depends on factors such as kids, who's making more money than the other, etc and should go fairly to the two person's. Shi* can happen and when it does it only makes sense to plan for it. People who believe that things will always be rosy and that nothing bad can happen to them, are fooling themselves, just look at the statistics. Chances at keeping a marriage intact are difficult to say the least.
Now this isn't to say that when the divorce happens and the pre-nup is active that I wouldn't help that other person out. Of course depending on what instigated the divorce. If she cheats then I'm going to be less likely to want to help her out. If it's mutually agreed that we just don't get along then we can work things out in a respectful manner. I believe this can be put in the prenuptual agreement as well. It's not like I'm saying, OK no matter what, I'll take everything I had before marriage and keep it all to myself. It all depends on the situation and financial needs. This should all be included in the prenup and be fair to each party. Why get the courts involved if you can settle everything in the pre-nup? | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:20:36 PM | Most definately....
I have worked hard for a very long time to build a future for myself and my children, and also to ensure I will have a good retirement.
Why should I risk losing that to someone who maybe hasn't planned for themselves the same way?
I would not think twice about signing one or asking that one be signed.
Has nothing to do with love, love can be fleeting or lasting, there is no guaranty. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:34:12 PM | if i were to EVER marry-again you bet yer BIPPY there would be a pre-nup one can't 'file for marriage' we all know that it can take ONE to DIVORCE WISE UP folks! | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:37:34 PM | Hehehe, I see everyone's point now but this thread is making me even more leery of the idea of marriage. "Sure I love you and all, but you need to sign this in case you decide to screw me over."  | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:50:20 PM | just have them sign something that GUARENTEES 'NO screw over' tis a common misconception that it is we WOMEN who care most about $$$$$$ tis really zee MENfolk whom place ALL value on this if you want to ensure a LIFElong commitment 'ALL monies aquired post divorce -by FILER- shall be disbursed TO party SERVED' if BOTH agree to/sign THAT? well... | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 4:54:33 PM | I have a real problem with the men out there that say "she" will take you to the cleaners! Let me just say that "he" can also take you to the cleaners, especially if "she" is the one who had more assets entering the marriage. I know... been there done that.
Fran: I don't know what the laws are there in the US, but here in Canada, anything inherited or given to you while married is considered a "gift" to both of you. It is to be split up evenly, even if you have a bank account solely in your name its considered both of yours( unless of course he doesn't know about it). Which to me would be considered dishonest.. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 6:25:54 PM | | if and when I am in the circumstance to go thru the marriage thing....I would think that I had gotten to know the fella, having spent time getting to know him before such a proposal came about. Right at the beginning of getting to know him....no matter what his financial background would be....it would be a non issue as I would love to share....and with being that way during the entire of courtship and he, hence, proposed....I would then say "yes"...BUT if it came about that all of a sudden he felt that a prenup was needed....I would wonder who gave him the idea and NO I would do it....easy to say now cuz that isnt in the cards at the moment tho | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 6:30:59 PM | | when my son and his girlfriend moved in together almost 3 years ago....he basically supported her....she had a part time job....he paid for her car insurance, food, rent, and took her shopping wherever she wanted to go...she spent the money she earned on tanning, nails and hair....she had a great personality and was a major home body.....but they split up about 6 months ago....the reason I put this in is....they did not marry and ya know what? she got absolutely every material thing....so...I guess she did not need a prenup hey | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 6:37:59 PM | I'm on the fence on this.
Shouldn't have to sign a prenuptial agreement but when you are older you have more assets, you may want to protect some of those interests. (i.e. pension plan, property, family gifts (inheritances etc..)
I say that what each partner brings into it before the marriage is theirs and what is acquired after that should be split 50/50.
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 7:08:10 PM | "Sure I love you and all, but you need to sign this in case you decide to screw me over."
usually get screwed before you sign
have to take it for a test drive before you buy
oppsss,,,sorry people,,I just HAD to say it!! | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 7:15:55 PM | I would absolutely have no issues whatsoever signing a pre-nup. If it isn't about the money and you would never consider being unfair then what is the problem with signing it? I think if someone needs that little piece of paper to assure them that I am not able to take them for everything they are worth then......so be it! I would rather know that I am marrying someone who is using emotion, reality and logic along with love before marrying me. It would assure me that it isn't just a decision they have made without thinking about all possible endings including the possibility of divorce. As much as this lacks in the fairytale thoughts it is logical and would make me feel safe knowing if he is looking at all possible angles before making the marriage decision and would assure me that the decision was thought through completely. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 7:22:47 PM | | yep!!..I sure would sign a prenup..After all, You gotta keep what you accumilated durring your life till just BEFORE you get married!!...You gotta protect yourself. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 7:43:11 PM | I would not buy a car much less drive it if I had to get car insurance - I mean that's just like setting yourself up with the expectation of an accident - Don't you trust your self? It’s insulting and self-deprecating. It's like when I was on the hi wire with my partner - no way would I use a net - that would just give her the idea that I didn't trust her and it would create a self-fulfilling prophesy.
[It's insulting as can be because it says that he believes "money talks" when it comes to me.]
How about he wants money to not get in the way of your ability to talk? Maybe it's about being clear and fair while things are good and healthy so you don't have to let all the greedy materialistic peripherals muddy the waters if you grow apart - so when communication really is necessary you aren't distracted by dollar signs or worse using them as bartering tools like couples will sometimes use kids -
A simple pre-nup of fairness should be part of the wedding contract - we contribute 100 percent raising kids, sex, communication, finances etc and we leave with 100 percent -
If I meet you and we date and start falling in love and you have 3 cars and I have 1 - at what point should we each part with two cars? | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/18/2006 7:51:46 PM | | In all honesty I do believe in prenuptial agreements to some degree. I ve worked very hard in my life to have a solid career with a future. A few of my friends got married without a prenup and they've had to pay dearly. In this country woman are favored in divorce proceedings and even though they haven't been the breadwinners they come out with more then her fair share in my opinion. | |
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| Would you sign a prenuptial agreement? Posted: 3/19/2006 3:38:57 AM | ^^ Agreed. Especially when it comes to solid assets (house, car, mortgage) which can be agreed upon to be liquidated or another arrangement made so that one partner isn't stuck with the bill but no access.
Since pre-nups don't include gains DURING the marriage, thats out. However, I think it is important to protect yourself- no matter how well you know the person. Bad things can happen, and bad things can make people spiteful.
so OT yes, I would sign a pre-nup, and no, I don't think its a prelude to divorce. | |
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