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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 2/12/2007 9:31:01 PM | A person with a High IQ means that they can solve problems, puzzles and things logical in incredibly short time while the average guy is still scratching his head. They see the world slightly different to others because what they look at makes sense to them while others dont get it. Life comes easy to these people they're just average people like you or me they just have potential. On occasion people with the natural abilities and talents of higher IQ could be seen as bad people as they can study peoples reactions, responses and conversation and plan/use/manipulate/foresee/predict outcomes and shape them to what they want fairly easily -WHY?- well because they can!
Intellectuals on the other hand can be anybody! if you spend your entire life reading every book in the library chances are you'd at least remember a small part of that and that would make you feel like you knew more than everyone else who slacks off in their studies *coz you damn well would*. Heck even I self taught myself japanese from books it took me years but i did it coz the girls are hot and so i can play the video games! In general intellectuals lack the natural insight and ability to forsee far ahead that those with IQ have so they're just people like you or me. Yes there are people who have IQ and study up hard but those become the greatest of our society. Intellectuals are the cold and uncaring types because they had to work not play to get to where they are and can sometimes be seen as looking down on others because its easy for their personality to develop as such. They often develop interests in complicated fields and spend so much of their time devoted to their chosen interest that they dont spend time outside at parties socializing like other people. Because once you have a taste for knowledge you thirst for more. So yeah they are stereotyped as lacking common sense and often are due to eccentricity. Now that all of this major generalization and stereotyping has been smacked down on anybody reading this please stop and remember that no matter the education or ability of a person they could still just be a jerk. Just because they're smart doesnt mean they arent a jerk or are a jerk the ratio of jerks to nice guys remains constant. Chances are you people who had poor relationships chose poorly. If theres some brilliant super smart person a partner who is a vacuum wouldnt really be much of a conversation if you cant communicate any relationship would fall apart (unless that vacuum is super hot). People who have things in common get along better, people who can talk to one another and understand each other get along better this is a universal rule its pretty obvious. People should consider this before they start a relationship and if they still wanna try then work damn hard to make it work - i dunno read a book or something LOL. Thats my thoughts on the situation and as for doctors who can spell or cant spell or have neat writing or dont... my writing sucks but i'd rather somebody who has read all the books and knows how to save lives than somebody who can write neat or is grammatically correct. FYI my friend bet me that my IQ is highest in our circle of friends to test it we did 10 different online IQ tests which had varying results from 140-189 for me somehow I won but I still dont believe it. My friends all went to university, masters and PHD's and i just did basic tertiary studies after highschool im barely educated compared to them its hard for me to get a job. IQ makes no difference to a person im not too smart my best skill is I am good at playing the latest video games LOL im a computer geek. So as you can see the results are not accurate theres no real test to tell you how smart you are. If you wanna talk about playstation 3 then come see me but if its about computer geeks and relationships thats a whole different story dont go there! | |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 6:18:51 PM |
Intelligence Interval Cognitive Designation
40 - 54 Severely challenged (Less than 1% of test takers)
55 - 69 Challenged (2.3% of test takers)
70 - 84 Below average
85 - 114 Average (68% of test takers)
115 - 129 Above average
130 - 144 Gifted (2.3% of test takers)
145 - 159 Genius (Less than 1% of test takers)
160 - 175 Extraordinary genius
However, I think the list needs to be updated for the internet, put in simpler, more practical terms that everyone posting on an internet forum can easily comprehend, so here is my interpertation of this ranking system:
40-54: Vegatable, like that chick in Florida who starved to death after they pulled her feeding tube
55-69: Those people who took the short bus to school
70-84: You're still a 'tard, but don't worry, you can still be president
85-114: Average Joe, of course on the internet no one falls into this category
115-129: Snotty "intellectuals" who try to impress people with their intelligence by using big words, impeccable spelling and grammar, etc.
130-144: Typical internet IQ score
145-159: Everyone who posts their typical internet IQ score in a discussion forum
160-173: Super intelligent, pure intellecutal genius, the pinnicle of human evolution, the epitome of Nietchze's "Ubermensch". But their spelling and grammer still s*cks, and they sometimes go to work in their pajamas.
For the record, my IQ is 273, which is twice the IQ of the averge Mensan. But IQ means nothing to me, it is only an artificial number given by society to measure one aspect of intelligence. I don't care how high of an IQ a person is, it is how nice they are and their character that counts. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 10:36:04 PM | "(quietly) Umm, that's Rorschach*. And technically - the Rorschach inkblot test is a psychological projective test of personality in which a subject's interpretations of ten standard abstract designs are analyzed as a measure of emotional and intellectual functioning and integration - not an intelligence test per say."
GE&H....
Brother you were doing so well until you hit "per say". Its "per se".... Latin in origin meaning "by itself".
There are many different definitions for intelligence and there are many different tests to quantify it. Generally an IQ test will gauge the individuals cognitive aptitude for learning , reasoning, thinking and adapting. As an adult your IQ should be higher than a child's based solely on the fact that you have more life experience to draw from.
A difference in intellect is not as significant as a difference in interests. If you like watching "The View" and he likes watching mockumentaries on PBS dressed in his Star Fleet uniform I'm pretty sure it's not going to work out. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 11:59:52 PM | IQ does make a difference.
Only 2.5% of the population has an IQ above 130 - FACT
I would hope the first approach to discovering you have an IQ above 130 would be to check the validity of the test!
An individual with an IQ of 70 is vastly different from a person with an IQ of 100 just as a person with an IQ of 130 is vastly different from a person with an IQ of 100.
Children identified with an IQ of 13o+ by a qualified educational psychologist are at great risk, high school drop outs, socially inept, isolated, poor sense of self worth etc It is a very specialized field as it only pertains to 2.5% of the population.
"Giftedness is asynchronous development in which advanced cognitive abilities and heightened intensity combine to create inner experiences and awareness that are qualitatively different from the norm. This asynchrony increases with higher intellectual capacity. The uniqueness of the gifted renders them particularly vulnerable and requires modifications in parenting, teaching and counseling in order for them to develop optimally." The Columbus Group, 1991
Place yourself in the shoes of the child and try to imagine what the experience on your journey to adulthood, functioning on a daily basis, interacting with people whom 97.5% have an IQ of at least 30 points below you. If you consider yourself average, how would your life be if your daily interactions where with people whom 97.5% had an IQ at the most of 70? If you consider yourself above average, adjust the figures.
High IQ is not something to boast about, it’s not a badge to wear proudly and it can be a burden in so many ways, nurtured it can be a treasure. Personally regardless of how socially inept a person is when they display superior qualities it will always gain my respect.
But there for the grace of god go I! | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 4:35:36 AM | Nicely said, Retem!
Being from an era where children in the 'gifted' program were actually bussed to another school after homeroom, I can say it did carry a good bit of stigma from the other kids. I've now dealt with this same issue from the perspective of a teacher and parent....it hasn't gotten any easier for the child as the years have past.
Dating too far out of you range of intelligence becomes difficult if only for the lack of common reference points. For instance, I'm an absolute idiot when it comes to popular culture & never get the jokes based on quoting some hit movie character. I've had dates look at me like I was a leper for being so 'lame', while they themselves couldn't tell Bronte from Beowulf! 
Birds of a feather, I suppose.... | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 4:46:36 AM | You guys do realize that I said all that "tounge and cheek", right? I thought the irony of this thread was hilarious, people debating about whether IQ is important in dating, the absurdity or being all PC saying how it isn't important then bragging about how high their IQ is. Add to that the statistical improbablitlity that everyone here would actually have the IQ they claim to have.
Of course I don't have an IQ of 273, perhaps in the future with artificially augemented intelligence I will have the equivlant.
Anyway, it makes sense that there would be at least some sexual selection for intelligence, otherwise we would still be gorillas. Also, why do sperm banks stock their shelves with the sperm of Ivy League graduates and Nobel prize winners? Why do people on a dating site all brag about their alleged high IQ's?
I don't know WTF my IQ is, and I am not sure I even want to know. I took one real IQ test when I was a child, the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children, and I didn't get an exact score because I maxed out the test  So that is my shamelss bragging, I figure since everyone else can do it, why not?
Place yourself in the shoes of the child and try to imagine what the experience on your journey to adulthood, functioning on a daily basis, interacting with people whom 97.5% have an IQ of at least 30 points below you. If you consider yourself average, how would your life be if your daily interactions where with people whom 97.5% had an IQ at the most of 70? If you consider yourself above average, adjust the figures.
If I actually do have above average intelligence, here is my take on this. It is obvious to me when someone has an IQ of 70 or below, if not before then the minute they open their mouth. With "average" people, it is not so immediately obvious. However, if I really told them what was on my mind instead of making the usual BS small talk, then I could tell.
If you happened to live in the Seattle area in the late 80's and 90's you may be familiar with a comedy show called Almost Live. It was on just before SNL and frankly it was alot funnier. On popular skit they did was called the "Lame List" where they would "inteview" a bunch of stoner, heavy metal, grunge rocker types. The interviewer would start off by asking them simple questions about things you would expect them not to like. They would then chant in unison "lame! lame! lame!, that totally wallows in lameness dude!", and go on about how lame it is.
For the punchline the interviewer would then ask them some complex intellectual question about current events, physics, or whatever and they would all blankly stare at the interviewer and go "huh?, what?....uuhhh....?". It was really funny if you watched it. That is exactly how an "average" person would respond, no matter how well I knew them, if I cut the small talk and started to discuss things that I thought were interesting. | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/3/2007 9:03:19 AM |
Children identified with an IQ of 13o+ by a qualified educational psychologist are at great risk, high school drop outs, socially inept, isolated, poor sense of self worth etc It is a very specialized field as it only pertains to 2.5% of the population.
"Giftedness is asynchronous development in which advanced cognitive abilities and heightened intensity combine to create inner experiences and awareness that are qualitatively different from the norm. This asynchrony increases with higher intellectual capacity. The uniqueness of the gifted renders them particularly vulnerable and requires modifications in parenting, teaching and counseling in order for them to develop optimally." The Columbus Group, 1991
Place yourself in the shoes of the child and try to imagine what the experience on your journey to adulthood, functioning on a daily basis, interacting with people whom 97.5% have an IQ of at least 30 points below you. If you consider yourself average, how would your life be if your daily interactions where with people whom 97.5% had an IQ at the most of 70? If you consider yourself above average, adjust the figures.
High IQ is not something to boast about, it’s not a badge to wear proudly and it can be a burden in so many ways, nurtured it can be a treasure. Personally regardless of how socially inept a person is when they display superior qualities it will always gain my respect
This is probably as close to accurate as most of the posts on this topic.
People tend to interact and form relationships based on common points of reference. These are often cultural, linguistic and social references, but can also include philosophical, intellectual and religious references.
When an individual is highly intelligent, they start in the same place as everyone else, however, they tend to assimilate, process and synthesize information at a pace far faster than their peers.
During the early years of development the differences are minor, however, as they grow older, their accelerated rate of intellectual development translates into increasing differences in points of reference.
Many people tend to have a rather narrow view of what it means for someone to be highly intelligent. They associate intelligence with prodigious memory, extensive vocabulary or speed of problem-solving, however, intelligence (in the brute force sense) tends to be a little more multi-dimensional than that.
Let's take an individual that we will call Mister X, and we'll assume that Mister X is 20% more intelligent in major cognitive functions than everyone else around him. Now, when you think of Mister X in terms of 20% greater cognitive function, you don't immediately think that it's that much of a difference, however, let's take Mister X on a journey of learning.
Let's assume Mister X reads at about the same pace as everyone else, about 1 page per minute.
Mister X retains 20% more information per pass (improved recall). As a result, he spends 20% less time re-reading that information to grasp the entire picture (net of 44% more efficient in reading).
Mister X also is 20% more efficient at discovering causal relationships, so for every 100 conceptual leaps made by his peers, he makes 120. (net of 72.8% more efficient in making conceptual leaps and comprehension for the same time spent).
Using this extremely simple model, we now have Mister X reaching 72.8% ahead of his peers, even though they have spent the same amount of time covering the same material, or to put it another way, the rest of his peers are 42.2% behind Mister X.
Now imagine you were in school, and the course you were taking took 100 days. Now, Mister X has attended all 100 days, and you have attended 58 days. Now, Mister X wants to have a meaningful discussion with you regarding the contents of the course, and wanted your impressions of the meanings and ramifications of the material.
You would most likely be ill-prepared to have a conversation that was meaningful to Mister X in any significant way. You might have certain observations that were overlooked by Mister X (nobody knows everything), but for the most part, not only would your observations be either already considered by Mister X, but in some cases would be completed disregarded by Mister X as either based on incomplete information or insufficient analysis.
Now imagine that every day of your life is like this. Every day, every waking hour you are assimilating, processing and synthesizing information on every topic imaginable. Whether it is political, social, economic, cultural or scientific, everything you see, hear and touch is processed this way. Frequently you are amazed at what you see, excited by your observations and discoveries, sometimes confused and bewildered by the things that you don't fully understand.
Now imagine a world where there's nobody to share these observations with in any meaningful manner. Conversations become one-sided, as you enter a conversation and point out the flaws in your companion's analysis and compare them to your own. Except nobody enjoys one way conversation. Eventually your companions tire of your discussions. Nobody likes to enter a discourse where their opinions are not given the same weight as their partner's, even if they are right most of the time.
So eventually your companions seek to avoid conversation with individuals like yourself, not because you're "smarter", but because everyone likes to feel smart sometimes -- just as everyone likes to feel beautiful, even if deep down we know that most of us are just average.
And now you find yourself often alone with your thoughts.
What would you do?
Would you go hide in a corner? Would you go looking for others of similar intelligence? Would you try to "enlighten" everyone anyway? Would you just accept that that's the way things are and there's not point to "enlightening" anyone? Would you learn to conceal your intelligence in order to make others more comfortable? Would you just say "screw it" and display your intelligence no matter how uncomfortable it made people feel?
Now put this in the context of real life, where high intelligence is actually a social disadvantage during the childhood years. How often have you seen people called "cool" because they had the highest grades in the class? Or when they finished their homework far ahead of everyone else? Or when they scored the highest in the school on a standardized test? How many become teased and bullied, or quietly whispered about at the lunch tables at the edge of earshot?
Even in the work place high intelligence is sometimes a disadvantage. Many managers are uncomfortable supervising people who are as smart or smarter than they are. Similarly, many people are uncomfortable working on the same teams as the "stars".
In many ways, intelligence is a great asset, but superior intelligence, that which places you significantly above your peers can be very much a burden. Just as a man who's 7 feet tall can never find the right fits of suits, and is always gawked at no matter how "normal" they are in every other way, superior intelligence can leave a person isolated from their fellow human beings in a way that's hard for most people to understand.
As for all the people posting up their high IQ's, I find the numbers flying around a little bit suspect myself. I put little faith in online testing for IQ, and the actual statistical rarity of the super intelligent is greater than most realize.
Here's how IQ actually distributes in percentile terms, note that some will be ranges due to slightly different interpretations of the standard distribution.
130-132 IQ -- 98%, or 1/50 people
135-137 IQ -- 99%, or 1/100 people
139-141 IQ -- 99.5%, or 1/200 people
147-150 IQ -- 99.9%, or 1/1000 people
160-164 IQ -- 99.997%, or 1/30,000 people
164-168 IQ -- 99.999%, or 1/100,000 people
176 IQ - 99.9999%, or 1/1,000,000 people
196 IQ - 99.9999999%, or 1/1,000,000,000 people
So what does all this mean? It means that if there's 300,000 people on POF, if we assume a fairly standard distribution (ie, non-skewed), then you might see this...
196 IQ - extremely unlikely, maybe 6 to 8 people on the entire planet
176 IQ - highly improbable, you *might* see one or two people, about 1/3 chance
164-168 - probable, you should see 3 to 5 people in this range
160-164 - highly probable, you should see around 10 people as members
147-150 - almost certain, should be about 300 people at this level
139-141 - tons of em, maybe 1,500 people or so
135-137 - small army here, 3,000 people give or take
130+ - wave a stick and you'll hit one, figure 6,000+
So how intelligent are those with "superior" intelligence? Well, it's hard to put a hard figure on it, but saying that a person with a 150 IQ is cognitively functioning anywhere from 40% to 60% faster than your average person wouldn't be too far off the mark.
I'm sure most of us have seen these people. They are the ones that can excel at almost any career they desire (with the exception of professional athletics and acting), and not only will they be competent, but be able to rise to near the tops of their fields if they so choose.
These are the people that can sometimes find that their output is limited by the speed that they can type or talk. They are also the people that can skip classes for most of the year, cram the night before, and still get A's. They're the ones that repeatedly see solutions to intractable problems that has everyone else shaking their heads. And they're the ones that often see problems long before anyone else sees them.
They also are the ones that are highly prone to becoming very lazy due to a lack of intellectual stimulation.
And before anyone asks what my IQ is, I ain't telling!
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Posted: 4/3/2007 11:09:20 AM | | So where does character, emotional stability or EQ, the pursuit of your own happiness or the feeling of self worth come into effect with IQ? | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 11:28:14 AM | Personally, I'm more interested in how they score on the MMPI...... Gots to avoid the psychotics and social deviants out there, ya know.
But back to the original question. I find intelligence very attractive, as long as someone's not overbearing or a know-it-all. It's much better that the flip side of that; i.e., someone who's belt don't go through all the loops........
I do like and appreciate intelligence and have dated both intelligent and not-so-intelligent guys. I'm no rocket scientist, but if someone just isn't very bright, it's hard to dumb it down for them. In the alternative, if someone's really intelligent, I think I might learn a thing or two from them. Someone who's got common sense and intelligence would be my first choice. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 1:02:26 PM |
So where does character, emotional stability or EQ, the pursuit of your own happiness or the feeling of self worth come into effect with IQ?
I would think the predisposition from a genetic point of view wouldn't be that far off the normal predisposition of the bulk of the population for the most part, though there have definitely been some studies indicating that as you move further up the range (think 130+) there is a slightly higher probability of various neurological disorders.
One study out of Utah attempted to show a correlation between intelligence and a series of genetic neurological disorders in the population of Ashkenazic Jews (a specific ethnic group in central/southern Europe, that is especially useful as they rarely intermarry).
In describing what they see as the result of the Ashkenazic mutations, the researchers cite the fact that Ashkenazi Jews make up 3 percent of the American population but won 27 percent of its Nobel prizes...
According to the study, 23 of 1,000 Ashkenazim have an I.Q. of 140 and higher compared to four of 1,000 north European non-Jews.
These mutations are also responsible for four genetic diseases characteristic of Ashkenazi Jews, including Tay-Sachs and the Niemann-Pick and Gaucher syndromes, the study says.
Now whether the incidence of genetic diseases is predisposed because of intelligence, or predisposed coincidentally due to the restricted genetic pool is still up for debate. I suspect a better study would be to do a global study of the highly intelligent across socio-economic and ethnic boundaries and then examine the incidence of various genetic diseases in order to get a better handle of whether it's truly correlated or not.
Personally, I suspect that as the human brain becomes wired with those qualities that impart much higher intelligence, just as in designing a more sophistacated computer chip or automobile, there is some undefinable increase in the probability of portions of the brain being non-optimal in function if they become out of relative balance.
As for the environmental side of their character and emotional development, I would suspect that from the family environmental side, there are similar risk factors to the population at large (though may be slightly elevated as some parents can become more ambitious and exert pressure when their children are talented or gifted in any way).
As for the general environmental factors, depending upon their schooling environments, neighborhoods, cultures, etc, they may experience greater pressure to conform, perform, or isolate themselves.
This is one of the main reasons that many school districts have instituted programs specifically for gifted children, much as they have developed programs for the developmentally disabled in order to remove those additional external pressures from peers that come from being different. The theory is that by placing them in an environment where they are no longer exceptional, they are then free to pursue their own intellectual development while still being able to interact on normal social terms with others in their peer group.
As for feelings of self-worth and esteem, I'm not sure that it would be significantly different than the public at large. A significant portion of human beings, gifted or not, have issues with self-worth and esteem. We just tend to notice it more with the gifted as they stand out already. Not that much different than with public figures, exceptional athletes, actors, musicians, etc. | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/3/2007 1:09:56 PM | Well I think the ideal thing would be someone with a balance of all....There is definitely more to it than being a brain!  | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 1:17:21 PM | | I think you people generalize too much. I'm very intelligent, but my emotional intelligence is something that has been developed. I think what's important is that you can understand where the person is coming from in their beliefs, the things they hold to be true, besides that who cares? | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 2:03:37 PM |
I have a cousin who is extremely intelligent when it comes to books, but as dumb as a bag of hammers when it comes to people. He has next to zero when it comes to social skills, and no compassion what so ever.
He sounds to me like he's someone with either High Functioning Autism or Asperger's Syndrome. People like that often are unable to empathise or sympathise, it's not that they're mean or anything like that. Just deal with him on his terms and don't expect compassion from him.
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Posted: 4/3/2007 2:54:13 PM | | Higher IQ isn't a measure of processing speed as much as increased capabilities. You don't think stupid thoughts twice as fast, you think smarter thoughts at whatever rate they come. To understand how you look to someone much more intelligent, look at someone who is much less intelligent than yourself. Because there are so few others with whom a normal-for-you conversation can happen, relating to people is generally a translation chore, where you dumb things down and leave things out. People can get freaked out about examples of very high intelligence when they don't understand it. It can make them remember feeling stupid in school in front of their classmates, those times they didn't know the answer and everyone laughed. I have never had the good fortune to date someone more intelligent than myself. I have been other people's dating misfortune, the other way around. So far getting along depends on my ability to equalize the conversation so that nothing extraordinary appears. When people say they admire intelligence, they do, but not if it comes at the cost of them feeling stupid in comparison, which is an inevitability if they make the mistake of doing the comparison. The very intelligent people I know have usually struggled to understand that others are less intelligent. It's hard to imagine that the people around you can't see what you can. Y0u think they aren't trying, they could if only they knew to look, made the effort. No matter why it is, the difference is real and once you see it so there must be a kind of wall between you and most other people. Talking about yourself as having higher intelligence draws fire, scorn, resentment, hostility. And it is pointless because anyone who doesn't understand it, can't. Those who do understand are few. I'd love to find someone with a very high IQ, and I bet we would get along just because we could understand each other. When the ability to easily relate is so rare it becomes very precious, at least, for me it is. I wish there was a real place in the world where people were like the authors and poets I find in the library as books and plays, so that sitting down together over a cup of coffee was the creation of a world that otherwise only appears along a trail of words black in on white page, footsteps in the deep snow. Until then, great fun for what it is, and alas for what it cannot be. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 5:10:32 PM | Wanderer
You make some excellent points I would normally enjoy debating, however, it is blatantly obvious this is not your area of experise or knowledge as some of your statements directly contradict years of research by qualified experienced people. YOUR OPINIONS are valuable TO YOU, I dont dispute that, but please state your source of this information as I find it very contradictory to research and valued opinions from qualified professionals.
If you must insult other by statements such as, "This is probably as close to accurate as most of the posts on this topic." At least have a basic understanding of what you talk about ! And before you spout off again, let it be known I dont suffer fools gladly hence I wont respond to any more of your self serving uninformed dribble.
Jumbo Mumbo is spot on, but Wanderer you will never be able to relate to that! | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 5:16:49 PM | IQ really doesn't matter. I could care less if the girl I'm dating is really good at math, or recognizing patterns which is some of the things that happen on the IQ test. As long as she's nice, and fun, responsible, I don't care what her personality traits are.
If I'm doing something complicated, like if I'm making Spintronic Tunnel Junctions through thermal evaporation in Ultra High Vacuum, I do not care if she just understood what the hell I just said.
If I want to talk to her about work, I will get out a piece of paper and break it down for her. If she sits there and acts interested, I'm turned on! | |
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Posted: 4/3/2007 6:01:08 PM |
You make some excellent points I would normally enjoy debating, however, it is blatantly obvious this is not your area of experise or knowledge as some of your statements directly contradict years of research by qualified experienced people. YOUR OPINIONS are valuable TO YOU, I dont dispute that, but please state your source of this information as I find it very contradictory to research and valued opinions from qualified professionals.
Be specific. Choosing not to put forward your point of view while still complaining about your disagreement serves no purpose other than to register your disagreement, which, without rational discourse, is worse than worthless, as it only serves to obfuscate the issue.
And who are these "qualified experienced people"? An incredibly general statement.
As for not suffering fools, your indirect ad hominem attack serves no purpose other than to try to elevate yourself above the discussion. Which, if you had participated in the discussion, would actually be constructive. Otherwise, it does little in terms of adding any perspective clarity.
If you'd care to discuss some specific aspect, feel free. As for this being my area of expertise, what would you define as qualifying me? Would it be degrees? Perhaps years of observation? Maybe you'd prefer someone who had a "superior" IQ or was exposed to a wide variety of those individuals? Or are you using another criteria entirely?
What makes you think that I am unqualified? Or that you are more qualified to judge who would be qualified and who is not, knowing little about myself, and probably even less about the "qualified individuals"?
If you're referring to the Ashkenazi, try this link...
http://media.www.dailyutahchronicle.com/media/storage/paper244/news/2005/07/01/News/Ashkenazi.Intelligence.Mutations.Discovered.By.U.Scientists-960496.shtml
Or this one...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0718_050718_ashkenazim.html
Having an intelligent discussion is more than the discounting of other people's views. Discussion and debate is like a crucible, where untruths and obfuscations are hopefully burned away to leave some which is meaningful. Otherwise, there is little purpose to discussion, other than perhaps, at best, intellectual masturbation.
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If you must insult other by statements such as, "This is probably as close to accurate as most of the posts on this topic." At least have a basic understanding of what you talk about ! And before you spout off again, let it be known I dont suffer fools gladly hence I wont respond to any more of your self serving uninformed dribble.
Why would you consider this insulting? Did I say the other posts were inaccurate? Did I say that this post is exceptionally accurate? Given our limited understanding of the nature of human intelligence, it is difficult to ascribe a specific level of accuracy to most opinions, except those where we can use comparitive studies or our own experiences. Or did you interpret this differently?
Perhaps you instead interpreted this through a lens of your own experiences? I wonder why you would find this insulting? Or was there something that you found especially sensitive? Feel free to clarify.
As for self-serving uninformed dribble, feel free to "put it out there". Let it all out. I'm sure there was something more you meant to say, beyond the direct insult. I'm sure you had something meaningful to contribute, or are you "above it all"? Perhaps you yourself are so elevated above the discussion that we seem as ants from the heights of a building, barely worth noticing, or even having discourse with.... or perhaps you meant something else? | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/3/2007 7:34:04 PM | I guess nobody read my last post eh?
Maybe we should try to agree on what "intelligence" is first and go from there. Statistcs are useless unless you state the source and context. 2.5% of the population.....population of what? Adults? Children?Men ? Women? Guys in thongs with no shame (please see "orgasm" forum)....?
Anyone else think that Wanderer and TemperLady( didn't catch her profile name) have got the hots for each other? | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/3/2007 7:42:16 PM | | There is a fine line between the highest IQ, and total fruit loops. Comparing Doctors and Lawyers, they are the same. Some professors space out at times...glad I am just a little smarter than a dog.lol | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/3/2007 8:00:28 PM | | I can't say I have known or ever cared to have known the IQ of my partner. Cant they carry on an intelligent conversation and communicate with me well? That's what matters to me. | |
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| Dating Someone With A High IQ
Posted: 4/4/2007 5:41:04 AM | I always wondered how smart IQ-wise, are the people that make IQ tests. They must be super smart if the can create a test that they know the answers to but only a handful of people on the planet can guess.
Keep in mind that IQ is one resource that a person can utilize to solve a problem. I must confess that I use the "ask an expert", "read the directions" or "take more time to think about it" methods. It's not raw 'smarts', but I've manage to feed myself so far with these tactics.
The point is that there is more than one way to get the job done. If a person has a high IQ, then I want to know what they are doing with it. I think its just a number, but if that number instills the confidence in somone to give everything there best, then more power to them tooting their own horn. Chances are that this high-IQ'ed individual will realize that it's not the number facing the extrodinary challenges of their life, but their own determination and willpower.
In short...don't tell me about the shiny new race car you own. Tell me about the races you've won with that race car.
Have I dated a woman with a high IQ?...I dunno, but I have dated women who told me that they we're never wrong and always right about anything and everything. Does that count?
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