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 _artsy

Joined: 7/19/2006
Msg: 501
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 8/14/2006 5:34:43 PM
OK. I just have to say thank you to everyone involved in this thread. My ex dumped me about two months ago, for no apparent reason, and I have felt worthless ever since. The stories and advice I'm reading on this thread are making me see so many things about my relationship and about myself. It WAS already fading out. I have to accept that. I miss her so much, but I'm getting better everyday as far as that goes.

Right now my problem is the confidence thing. Before the breakup, I was as confident as ever. I really thought my life was heading toward "perfect". But now... I feel like a peice of manure. Since I don't know what it was that she disliked about me, or where I went wrong, I assume everything about me is unappealing. I don't just wallow in misery about myself, its more like when I think of individual good traits about myself, say sense of humour for example, I assume its boring. Even with this website, every time I send out a message (and I do), and I don't get a reply, I assume that they see some "loser" quality in me that I've never known about and that no-one will tell me.

I really like what everyone has said here, and I would like to know if anyone has any advice for me. I'm sure there's already been lots said, but I skipped a few pages here and there, so Ill keep reading.

btw -- That journal entry thing -- from the girl who did the dumping...I think it fits my situation well and I'm glad I read it. It makes me understand better. I want to send it to my ex, but thats probably a bad idea?
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 502
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 8/14/2006 5:57:09 PM
It doesn't matter what she thinks of you or why she dumped you.

All that matters now is what YOU think about yourself. You have to learn how to love yourself again and rebuild your confidence and self-esteem.

Never tie your self-worth to what others think of you. That is an exercise in futility.
 _artsy

Joined: 7/19/2006
Msg: 503
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:21:02 PM
ok I'll work on that. I just don't know how to think I'm great again.

..but I will prevail.
 avidskier33

Joined: 7/30/2006
Msg: 504
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:40:18 PM
Dude, don't send your ex anything...
Jarb is so right when he states the no contact rule. It not only works on getting your ex back (if that's even remotely possible) but it also works on YOU getting your self-esteem back and doing what makes YOU happy.
Don't worry about it brother - it's her loss.
Not sure if you read my thread but although I was the one that cut it off with my ex I'm hurting as bad or maybe more. I miss her terribly as well. Although she was confused, she was adamant about us never working out. So, I made a decision to cut it off and move on. I'm not going to be disposable nor am I simply a temporary fling to fulfill her "being lonely until she moves on with her life" void.
My only consolation is that I did everything possible to make it work but in the end we are two different people who want different things out of life.
Don't feel bad about this website, I don't get responses either...we live in a disposable and materialistic society and if you don't have the looks and body of Adonis and the bank role of Rockefeller you unfortunately, often times, overlooked.
One day at a time, one day at a time.
 avidskier33

Joined: 7/30/2006
Msg: 505
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:46:40 PM
artsy,

I hope that's not a pic of your ex on your profile. Do yourself a favor and put everything - that even slightly reminds you of her - away. As far as your concerned she is a distant memory and photos are only going to remind of things you've done together.
I went as far as purging all the clothes my ex ever gave me. Some people may think that's extreme but they reminded me very much of her so they were gone!

Remember dude, "out of sight, out of mind"
 levelzero

Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 506
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 8/14/2006 6:55:20 PM
OK so I need some opinions.

My ex moved out 3 weeks ago (we havn't communicated since) and left behind a few things, one being here china which she really values. She said she would come by and get the rest of her stuff in a week or two. When we first broke up she said she didn't feel like she had anything to offe me and that she needed to be on her own. She said she hopes she could find herself and beg me to let her back into my life. I proceeded to push her and asked her if there was any other way. So instead of her leaving me and me needing to forgive her, now it seems like I am trying to get her to take me back.

I want to try and work things out, and she hasn't given me a clear sign that it cant happen. Shs has repeatedly told me things could change and that she was sorry it had to be like this. So what I am trying to do is decide the best way to deal with her things. I see two basic options.

1. Do nothing and wait for her to call. Just go about my life as best I can with knowing I will see her eventually. Even when she was moving out we had fun hanging out and I expect that this would be the same. It also gives her a chance to give me closure or express anything she wants. This route will draw out my healing process but it gives me the opprotunity to show her I am not sitting around idle, that I am working on myself and becoming happier with who I am. I also see this as being supportive of her desision.

2. I can pack her stuff up and drop it off at her parents house. I'll include a note that says "I'm sorry but having your things around the house was making it hard for me to move on with my life.". By doing this I will ensure she has no reason to see/talk to me unless she wants to. It also will enable me to get back some of the control I stupidly gave up during the beginning of the break up. The drawback is I don't get to see her, and have no chance to show her any of the improvments I have made. I also could send the message that I am mad at her and make her scared to contact me. At the same time it forces her to think about what she is losing, instead of having one foot in the door still.

I'm not looking for advice on what is best for my healing process, I know what that is. I am specifically looking for opinions (preferrable well thought out) on the best course of action to move in the direction of a reconcilliation. I love her enough to use extra amounts of strength to heal and drag that process out if it gets us closer to being together again one day. I will also suck it up and give up what could be my last chance to see her for a long time if it gets us closer to me trying a new. I am trying the determine the best course of action to work on the relashionship in the near (1-4 months) future.
 jpantoja

Joined: 7/10/2006
Msg: 507
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:57:12 PM
artsy dont contact your ex when you are feeling weak!

It has been hard for me too not to contact....
And even later, when he had called and we had a good conversation...
and had plans for dinner... i cancelled last minute cause i felt insecure...

i did finally meet up with him when i felt strong and it went great...
unfortuanetly he went from hot (contacting me a lot) to cold (me needing to contact... i do know he is really busy at work)

so this has made me insecure... my life is going on though...
not what my decision will be...
but for now i am strictly working on myself and enjoying my life without him!

thats my mini-goal: no contact until i feel strong again.... until i feel my life is good without him... until i dont feel needy...

take care of yourself and treat yourself well - u deserve it!
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 508
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Posted: 8/14/2006 8:24:39 PM
My ex moved out 3 weeks ago (we havn't communicated since) and left behind a few things, one being here china which she really values. She said she would come by and get the rest of her stuff in a week or two. When we first broke up she said she didn't feel like she had anything to offe me and that she needed to be on her own. She said she hopes she could find herself and beg me to let her back into my life. I proceeded to push her and asked her if there was any other way. So instead of her leaving me and me needing to forgive her, now it seems like I am trying to get her to take me back.


That was bad. In hindsight I would have said "OK". See you caged her in. She wanted to see how free she was to come and go and you basically tried to cage her. It's human nature to want to break free of cages. In this instance, the cage was clinging on to her. The best way to react when someone wants to leave you is to say "No problem. Take care...." and leave it at that. That shows them they are free of the cage.


I want to try and work things out, and she hasn't given me a clear sign that it cant happen. Shs has repeatedly told me things could change and that she was sorry it had to be like this. So what I am trying to do is decide the best way to deal with her things. I see two basic options.


If she is not giving signs then your only choice is to assume she isn't coming back and look forward, not backwards.


1. Do nothing and wait for her to call. Just go about my life as best I can with knowing I will see her eventually. Even when she was moving out we had fun hanging out and I expect that this would be the same. It also gives her a chance to give me closure or express anything she wants. This route will draw out my healing process but it gives me the opprotunity to show her I am not sitting around idle, that I am working on myself and becoming happier with who I am. I also see this as being supportive of her desision.


Do this but with no expectations of hanging out or seeing her again. Do your best to erase her from your mind. Pack up any reminders of her (that is not hers) and put them in a box, tape it up and store it away where you can't get to it easily. Delete her from your messengers, delete her number, erase old emails. Basically erase anything that will tempt you to call her or remind you of the past. This is a must in order to implement NC and to move on as quickly as possible. As another poster said "Out of sight, out of mind."


2. I can pack her stuff up and drop it off at her parents house. I'll include a note that says "I'm sorry but having your things around the house was making it hard for me to move on with my life.". By doing this I will ensure she has no reason to see/talk to me unless she wants to. It also will enable me to get back some of the control I stupidly gave up during the beginning of the break up. The drawback is I don't get to see her, and have no chance to show her any of the improvments I have made. I also could send the message that I am mad at her and make her scared to contact me. At the same time it forces her to think about what she is losing, instead of having one foot in the door still.


Pack her stuff, drop it off at her parents with no note. If you feel the need to write, write her a letter. Pour your heart into it -- then burn it and NEVER send it. It will do you no good to remind your Ex of the past. She already KNOWS the past and any reminders you give her will serve only to remind her WHY she left. It won't draw her back to you.

The best thing to do in a situation like this is to be COUNTER-INTUITIVE. In other words, whatever your heart is telling you do, do the opposite. No letters, no calls, no emails. Nothing. Disappear. She can not miss you unless you go away.


I'm not looking for advice on what is best for my healing process, I know what that is. I am specifically looking for opinions (preferrable well thought out) on the best course of action to move in the direction of a reconcilliation. I love her enough to use extra amounts of strength to heal and drag that process out if it gets us closer to being together again one day. I will also suck it up and give up what could be my last chance to see her for a long time if it gets us closer to me trying a new. I am trying the determine the best course of action to work on the relashionship in the near (1-4 months) future.


Clinging to the hope of reconcilliation is the one thing that will KEEP YOU DOWN and INSURE a reconcillation will never happen. Your ex will never want you back if you are down in the dumps and pining over her. The BEST way to get an ex back, in my opinion -- and if it's to happen at all -- is to live your life. Start dating someone else, hang out with friends, invest time into hobbies and rebuild your confidence and self-esteem. BE HAPPY!

How do I know this? Ever seen someone down in the dumps over an Ex? Someone of the opposite sex? Not too apealling are they? They are sad, depressed and a real downer. No one wants to be around that. People are attracted to CONFIDENT, FUN, HAPPY people. You can never be any of those things if you are PINING over the loss of your ex.

It didn't work for my ex, it won't work for yours. You have to MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE and assume they are never coming back. There are two advantages if you do this:

1. You will be happy, confident and have good self-esteem again. To an ex, this is appealing. If they see you moving on they might be tempted to wonder how you could move on so easily. They may decide that you weren't so bad after all and if they see your new levels of confidence and self-esteem (and you being happy) they'll remember why they liked you. If you are down in the dumps, it will serve to push them away.

2. If the ex never comes back, you will have healed up and be happy and attractive to SOMEONE ELSE.

So you see, my friend, your only option is to STOP LOOKING AT THE PAST and start looking to your future. The past has been written. It's your future that is still in doubt and you will NEVER get an ex back by plotting a way to win them over. The only time I have ever seen a successful reconcillation is when the dumper has moved on with their life, rebuilt their confident and self-esteem and met and dated other people.

I hope you take my advice to heart. If you want to heal quickly and have a life, leave the past behind.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 509
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Posted: 8/14/2006 8:25:34 PM
Artsy, you'll be fine if you follow my advice. I promise you that.

Look forward, not behind.
 _artsy

Joined: 7/19/2006
Msg: 510
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Posted: 8/15/2006 10:59:56 PM
Avid skier, Jpantoja and Jarbarian....

I'm taking all of your thoughts and advice to heart. Thank you.
That is in fact a picture of her on my profile. Funny that you figured that.

I didn't even realize how badly I was tying my self worth to others' opinions until you pointed it out. That's terrible. I am a pretty cool person.

Seriously though, like magic, since reading this thread and writing my first post here a couple of days ago, I've been getting responses, meeting people and generally feeling really good. I'm not sure if you all know how grateful I am, cause I certainly can't express it. I owe you all a beer, for sure. You can hold me to it. In the meantime I'm going to keep climbing this mountain until I truly reach the peak. Thanks again.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 511
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Posted: 8/15/2006 11:14:29 PM
Artsy, you are welcome and you will be FINE!

But start with getting rid of her picture on your profile :)
 4rums only 4 this account

Joined: 1/30/2006
Msg: 512
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Posted: 8/16/2006 3:35:53 AM
Artsy

I enjoy reading the forums as well, it has helped me deal with my broken heart as well...Jarbarian has alot of good things to say and you will see as everyday goes by, the pain will get better....time will tell, if your meant to be with that person or not....continue on with your life and it will bring you good things....all negative reactions or stress will only bring you negative energy......you have to be positive and you will see good things come your way......you never know what the future might hold

Trust yourself and be good to you

Good luck
 avidskier33

Joined: 7/30/2006
Msg: 513
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Posted: 8/16/2006 1:31:44 PM
May be a bit of a stretch to come to edmonton for a beer or vise versa but I appreciate the thought.

I'm glad I could shed some light...

As for me, I had a rough night last night and in the face of adversity the only thing that keeps me going is hope. My ex and I exchanged some words over an email which made me feel worse about the situation.
Jarb, I broke the biggest rule, again. Back to square one. I did pick up a new hobbie, raquetball - what an awesome sport!!!

These threads are great therapy. Just being able to express your feelings and passing on some experiences ultimately helps not only your own endeavors but those of others as well.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 514
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Posted: 8/16/2006 1:56:27 PM

Jarb, I broke the biggest rule, again. Back to square one. I did pick up a new hobbie, raquetball - what an awesome sport!!!


I am glad you are picking up new hobbies. Stay close to friends and family. We all need to be around friends/family even if no words are exchanged. Just them being there will make you feel better.

Nothing good ever comes from breaking NC when things have no significantly changed. I'm in NC mode with my Ex right now. It's the only way to go. I want to move on with my life and meet someone much better for me and I can not do that if I have any form of communication with my ex.
 hamham

Joined: 6/9/2006
Msg: 515
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Posted: 8/16/2006 8:35:17 PM
I made a post on here a few months ago after my ex left me, because the comments on here just inspired me and made me feel so much better. I just read artsy's post, and it made me want to respond, and give a brief summary of what has happened since then. At first I felt that getting into hobbies and socializing with people wouldn't help me, because it would just be a front, and it wouldn't really heal my true feelings of hurt and anger, etc. But soon I realized that it was truly therapeutic to get myself to do the things I loved, or always wanted to try, and to be out there and explore and be a part of the world at large. It was very liberating, and it forced me to be out there on my own (as well as connecting with friends and family and making new friends).

I think that what works for everyone will be slightly different, but for me what has helped the most is understanding that we can never explain what someone else did, or get the answers that we want from them (my ex disappeared without a word). We can't change anyone else but ourselves, so the only thing we need to concentrate on is ourselves. Although I didn't get an answer or explanation from my ex, I don't need one anymore. He's just now trying to contact me again, but I don't want or need an explanation from him because I've moved on, and I feel healthy being my own person, in my own skin. It's an amazing feeling, and it's definitely been a learning and growing experience for me.

I just wanted to say thank you again to Jarbarian and also to everyone else who's posted and shared their experiences and feelings.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 516
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Posted: 8/16/2006 10:25:01 PM
hamham, you are welcome and I hope your experience inspires others to realize that they don't NEED someone in their life. They need to depend on themselves for happiness and look to another to compliment but not complete them.

I am glad to hear you are doing well. You're on the right road and I am sure someone special will come into your life in no time.

The sooner you heal, the sooner you can love again :)
 hypoxic

Joined: 7/2/2006
Msg: 517
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Posted: 8/17/2006 11:28:31 PM
Well Levelzero...Jarbarian is right. Sounded way too familiar to me, when I read your post. It's all too business like now isn't it... The reality is that, it really is business now. Each person out for themselves in a way, seeing as how you want to heal and she's on her own. In my own situation, she left, basically telling me that she was sorry "it had to be that way" while I'm going "huh!?". Now it's been over a year and a half, I've talked to her all of twice...actually tried calling her the other day...not the wisest thing I've done in 2006. Anyways, it's a scary road now, but it's gonna be just fine. A huge thing that I needed to figure out early on, is that the phone doesn't ring, because someone isn't calling you. The bed feels huge, because you're the only one there. The hallways are white, because pictures are gone. All of these things are gonna bug you for a bit, but if you just let reality happen, it will be easier to adjust, and then one of two things. One: She comes back. Two: She doesn't. And in keeping with the old bit of "If you love something set it free, and if it doesn't come back it wasn't yours"...well you see what I'm saying.

Just please be careful that by cutting off all of your ties you don't give her the impression that you are totally gone and ok with what's happening. If you see her, acknowledge her, but don't hang on her. You are "you", not the "two of you".. I don't know for sure, but I'm worried that my cutting off all ties, made her decide not to come back... kinda like a what if she was picking up the phone and just couldn't hit send? But remember that if she can't find it in her to get over her own fears, and anxiety then where would you have really gone? Regardless... you sound like you're doin pretty good, especially seeing as how there isn't a book on how to do this kinda stuff :)

Nick
 Montreal_Guy

Joined: 3/8/2004
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Posted: 8/18/2006 2:55:19 AM
I can pack her stuff up and drop it off at her parents house. I'll include a note that says "I'm sorry but having your things around the house was making it hard for me to move on with my life.". By doing this I will ensure she has no reason to see/talk to me unless she wants to. It also will enable me to get back some of the control I stupidly gave up during the beginning of the break up. The drawback is I don't get to see her, and have no chance to show her any of the improvments I have made. I also could send the message that I am mad at her and make her scared to contact me. At the same time it forces her to think about what she is losing, instead of having one foot in the door still.


The secret to moving forward is ripping those rearview mirrors off your soul.

Since you are still pretty new to the situation, the way you are thinking is completely normal.

My advice would be to drop off her things at her parent's house. The note isn't needed. They are her things, and not yours, and you are simply returning them. A note, in this case, implies needing to "tell her" something.

Both of you know everything you need to know.

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, and today is all you are ever going to really have for sure.

You are still seeing yourself, subconciously, as a part of something that no longer exists. Basing any of your actions on the other person is still being tied to them. What's needed is to cut those last emotional references, and sail forward into the future.

It's scary at the start, and all voyages of discovery are. You are in unknown territory, and those comforting landmarks you used to have are all gone. The secret is to enjoy the voyage, and not to worry about the destination. Concentrate on yourself, and your interests and needs. So something you always wanted to do, but were always putting off.

A lot of people here in this thread have made that voyage, and sailed some pretty stormy seas. I'd dare say most of us don't regret the effort it took to get to where we are now. I look back at those first weeks of being single, and my reaction, with some humour now.

I went through a really bad time for a short period, but I came out of it a far better and stronger person than I ever dreamt of being before my voyage started. Everything you need is sitting there looking you straight in the face, as much as you don't realize it at the moment.

Stay strong, and go forward.
 levelzero

Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 519
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Posted: 8/18/2006 2:07:20 PM
I appriciate everyones advice, but I have chosen to ignore it at my own risk. I talked to her yesturday and we cleared the air about a few things. She was hurt by things I said or did, and didn't feel like I loved her enough or that I really wanted to marry her. She said what I have thought and thats that we just weren't ready for the relashionship and life threw too much at us to be able to keep it healthy.

I am going to let her come get her things, and I'm sure we will talk some more. I have no set plans except to focus on making myself a happier and better person, but I do intent to stay open to her and communicating with her. I may even make little gestures of romance from time to time. My insticts seem to have been right so far and I'm going to go with them. I going to follow my heart and play it to the bone. If she is not the one for me I will find out, it will hurt more then walking away now but I will have no regrets. Pain is a temporary emotion, regret can last a lifetime.

This thread is about second chances, even if it does talk all about healing yourself. I will heal myself and I am strong enough to do that and still be open and love her. I am also strong enough to make sure she can not take advantage of that. I think in my situation she needs to see me act on my feelings, to know that I do love her while still giving her space. To see me change and accept her as she changes. I will hit a point where I give up, but that point is not here yet. I know we both have to do this becasue we have some baggage that needs dealing with, but we have always been a good couple and without that baggage we could easily spend our lives together very happily.

At least that is my desision for today, things seem to change quickly and without notice during stuff like this.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 520
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Posted: 8/18/2006 2:19:41 PM
levelzero, I do think you need to follow all the steps outlined in my first post. The issue here is you need to be 'over' her before a second chance will work. If you follow your heart right now, especially when you are breaking up, you will ruin any chance of a reconcillation.

How?

Remember this golden rule of relationships. Most relationships are like a dance. When one person is leading all the time, it becomes a chase. Nobody likes to be chased to the point they start running. Once you chase (cling to her in any fashion) the dance is over. She'll RUN from you. If you stop chasing her, she'll wonder why she is running.

When you cling to someone, you put them in a cage. They don't feel "free" in the relationship. Women have a deep desire to chase and be chased. They don't want to do all the chasing and they don't want to be chased constantly. Just as you see winning her as your ultimate goal, she should see winning YOU as her ultimate goal as well.

In your situation you need time and space apart. She needs time to miss you and appreciate the things she had with you.

I would highly recommend you cut your contact with her down to a minimum and don't be initiating it often. Certainly not every day. In fact, I think a few months of no contact would be best. That will give you some time to work on you.

You said you have no plans right now to heal. That's the worst thing you can do. You need to take some time out to reflect on what happened, what areas you need to improve upon and start to really be happy single and with who you are.

Women are attracted to happy, fun, confident, independent men. Be that, and not only will your ex remember why she liked you, but other women will be attracted to you as well.

You see, healing/improving yourself is not only good for second chances. It makes you attractive to someone else should you never reconcile.

Best of luck...
 harryv05

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 8/18/2006 2:30:27 PM
I THINK MEN ARE INCLINED TO GIVE WOMEN A SECOND CHANCE, BUT WOMEN DO NOT. (WAS SHE A VIRGIN WHEN YOU FIRST HAD SEX WITH HER? ACTUALY IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.) AS A FAMOUS BEAUTY QUEEN ONCE SAID: "AFTER A WARM BATH, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE DIFFERENCE"
 levelzero

Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 522
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Posted: 8/18/2006 6:17:41 PM
Well I will now be following the guide to a T. I'm not going to get into it but I recieved what I needed to move on.
 Wanderlust angel

Joined: 8/15/2006
Msg: 523
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Posted: 8/19/2006 10:14:38 AM
the guidelines are pretty much smack on, without even thinking about second chances but more just for you to heal. i made the error of emailing and pouring out my emotions, insecurities, hurts, etc to someone i cared about very much when he left my life. looking back i am so embarressed.

the good news is that i have managed to crawl back up from that experience, dated other men, had men since then not work out but have overall been able to restrain from contacting them. the first love, i lost my dignity not only in the experiences with him but also afterwards. as a result of hitting rock bottom, i was able to finally look internally rather than relying on an external source for my confidence, self-esteem, etc. after that, dating became a lot more fun and a lot easier in many ways.

it isn't about hoping for a second chance--what it is about is self-healing, dignity and perseverance. good tips OP. and for everyone who is suffering with a broken heart, hang in there, it will get better :)
 jpantoja

Joined: 7/10/2006
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Posted: 8/19/2006 10:32:57 AM
Jarbarian,

How do you really let go? I feel like I am on a rollercoaster....

one day i have a lot of fun without him the next hour its hurts and i want to hear from him...

thinking its over for real and forever sucks out all my energy and motivation....
it sort of starts my negative thinking.... i guess

when i think i can give it time and i know he will come to me...
its sooo much easier...
i am positive about it and i am using this time to work on myself, improve myself...
go after new interests, go to the gym, friends, small goals....
i am more like i will use this time for myself and enjoy it...

this is keeping me of really letting go....

it took me some time to break up cause he was confused...
i set a time limit of 5 months and did it after 1...

now he is hot and cold... and only coming halfway...
redicoulus cause its the same situation except i have had drawn a line:
either a real relationship or none at all....
i want to keep that... but i feel like its the same thing all over...
he halfway tells me that he misses me but does not say he wants a real
relationship....

the only managable solution i can see for myself right now is to keep my distance...
and continue taking good care of myself...
i can see what comes from him within one month... maybe totally NC
after that time limit i hopefully will be strong enough to say i have given him
enough time and space it will never change...

its so difficult... i am so mad he gives me hopes and then goes from hot to cold...
and i do want to tell him somthing like look i told u its not working when u are there
one moment and not the other... but i realize telling him that is clingy and actions are louder and stronger than words....

feels good to vent...

- stuck
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 525
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 8/19/2006 10:43:04 AM
j,

You have the right idea. Keep your distance. One month of NC is not long enough. You need at least 2 full months of NC to really let your own healing set in. If you can go longer, that's better.

He may never know what he wants but as long as you cling to hope you will not heal. The goal then is to HEAL FIRST then decide what you want to do later. Don't leave your future in his hands, take it into yours and run with it. If he's not going at the pace you want, move on.

The only way to let go is to forgive him and implement NC. Do what you are doing, hang with friends, invest in hobbies, etc. He will creep into your mind but when he does, try to remember the bad things about him and not the good.
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