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Lindac
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Joined: 12/6/2006
Msg: 951 | |
| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 7:26:10 AM | WOW!! You are great at giving this kind of advice and anyone who has gone through or is going through this kind of trauma should follow your excellent advice. However, I am not going through wanting an ex back but like to read postings to see what is going on with others.  I am only in the stage of meeting and hoping to find a serious relationship. Linda  | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 7:44:33 AM | | this is not only for people looking for a second chance but excellant advice for the broken hearted as well. thanks for posting this, i think it will help me out a bit. | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 7:51:12 AM | Thank you, that's actualy pretty much what I've been thinking....just needed to hear it from someone else.
Appreciate it. | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 9:43:31 AM |
so you copied that from Catch him n keep him....no great insight from you
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I must have read an e-book on "How to catch and keep a guy...."
Read "Love Must Be Tough" by Dr. James Dobson (copyright 1983) if you want to know where a good majority of the information came from. And if you read the thread, which it appears you just read snippets, you'll see where I have credited him several times.
The advice is from his book and from personal experience of trial and error.
Cheers. | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 10:16:21 AM | | funny, your exerpt all 13 steps, including the disclaimer.....word for word come from that bood.....I have read and reread the thread and there is no mention of you giving credit to Dr. James Dobson, but you take full credit for the insight.....have forwarded your forum and email to the copy right department for catch him and keep him....best of luck to you...it's great insight, but word for word including disclaimer...not yours. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 10:25:29 AM | see everyone, I challanged the origion of Jarbarian's so called personal wisdom and he sent me an email attacking my name and then blocks me.....very cowardly.....your a htter and runner.....
first off, why is when most men feel threatened they immediately feel the need to attack, must be insecurity or guilt.... a name is just a name and you know nothing about my life accomplishments, I can assure you "jarbarian" my mother is very proud, as all my work is my own.
I am personally not a coward as after I sent my opinion, left the option open for your response.
You all.....the tread is great advice, but not Jarbarians.....best of luck to you all. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 10:32:27 AM | Wow you must really be insecure that you'd take it upon yourself to make some very wild and incorrect assumptions. I feel sorry for you.
If you read THROUGH the thread you will see where I credited Dr. Dobson.
You're the first person I know of to "assume" that I read an e-zine book on how to win a guy back - especially considering I am a guy. Ask the author of that e-zine to search and see if I ever purchased anything from them (I haven't). Heck, call the FBI and have them search my hard drive for the information. They won't find it because I've never read it.
Good, sound advice usually follows the same train of thought. Whether you believe me or not doesn't matter. If you read 100 books on this subject I am sure the thoughts and ideas of human pyschology would not differ greatly.
If someone feels I have "stolen" their work, let them be the first to question me. I'd be HAPPY to answer where I got my information. After all, Dobson's book came out long before any of the so called e-zine books.
If anything, they plagurize him.
Last but not least, the advice in this thread is universal. If it helps someone, great. But it's NOT a copy of any e-zine. It's a brief summary of some of Dr. Dobsons suggestions along with some of what I have personally gone through. Some of it was also directly from my Counselor. I'm aware most people won't read a long book which is why I posted the summary of some of Dr. Dobson's thoughts mixed in with mine.
Also, it's not like I am charging for anything nor looking for accolades. E-zine book writers are looking to make a buck. I'm just trying to pass on what I've learned - free of charge. If that bothers you so much, so be it. All you've shown is just how insecure you are.
Cheers. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 10:46:39 AM | not insecure at all, again with the name calling.....I feel sorry for you as, I am not the one resorting to name calling,....that is usually done by abusive men when they feel threatened or challenged......Just really can't stand liars....like I said, the ideaology behind the thread is great, but again, word for word, including the disclaimer....copied, more than just the same train of thought....other than the name calling, I doubt you have had an original thought.
one of my best friends is male and reads everybook that he can to try to get an understanding on females.
I notice that you make no statements on your cowardly actions, but instead deflect attention from your cowardizm by commenting on my character.....hmmmmm ...not much insight required there.
Please feel free to post if you ever do get an original thougth | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 11:08:27 AM | Who cares? Even if it is copied at least its useful information that people will want to read. Leave it alone. | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 11:40:53 AM | | You are right on! Re runs in the long run DO NOT WORK. Becautious when children are involved. If you can re kindle your love between the two of you, just do it for yourselves. Your children will be forever grateful | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 12:03:56 PM | If you have read the thread, you would see where Jarbarian gives Dobson credit. he never said these were his ideas, and that they were the bible, just sharing what has worked for him. Also, as he siad, these ideas are based in common sense, therefore, you would see the same theories elsewhere (except I havent seen these ideas in catch him him and keep him)
I cant figure out why you are attacking him, he has shared much insight FOR FREE, is one of the most honest guys on this site, and I have learned alot from his postings.
If you dont like it, dont read it . | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 12:26:32 PM | not insecure at all, again with the name calling.....I feel sorry for you as, I am not the one resorting to name calling,....that is usually done by abusive men when they feel threatened or challenged......Just really can't stand liars....like I said, the ideaology behind the thread is great, but again, word for word, including the disclaimer....copied, more than just the same train of thought....other than the name calling, I doubt you have had an original thought.
one of my best friends is male and reads everybook that he can to try to get an understanding on females.
I notice that you make no statements on your cowardly actions, but instead deflect attention from your cowardizm by commenting on my character.....hmmmmm ...not much insight required there.
Please feel free to post if you ever do get an original thougth
Again, it's NOT copied word for word from any e-zine. You calling me a liar and a coward IS name calling. Only the insecure insist on calling someone a liar and insist on making a big deal out of something that is nothing.
This thread, not the original post, contains where I specifically state where I got my information from. It was formulated in my OWN thoughts.
Accept it or not, that is your choice, but it IS the facts. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 12:29:31 PM |
If you have read the thread, you would see where Jarbarian gives Dobson credit. he never said these were his ideas, and that they were the bible, just sharing what has worked for him. Also, as he siad, these ideas are based in common sense, therefore, you would see the same theories elsewhere (except I havent seen these ideas in catch him him and keep him)
I cant figure out why you are attacking him, he has shared much insight FOR FREE, is one of the most honest guys on this site, and I have learned alot from his postings.
If you dont like it, dont read it .
Exactly and thank you!
How sad it is for someone to not see the value in the common sense advice but instead, attacks the information. That is why I called her insecure. Only someone who is deeply insecure would attack someone she doesn't know on a message board without having any of her facts straight. If she knew me, she'd KNOW I did not "steal" this from some e-zine.
It's basic psychology 101. But, if she feels the need, please I would like to see the stuff I supposively copied.
Perhaps she can post the words so we can put to rest any notion I stole something from a "how to win a guy" web site. 
Cheers | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 12:32:54 PM | Jarbarian: I'm sure you are aware that some people exist in this world simply to make life difficult and/or dramatic for others for basically no reason other than serving their own egos. I am a strong believer that these things get paid back and settled in the end (I've seen it happen soooo many times).
MILF: Jarbarian is not claiming the advice he has put in this thread to be exclusively his personal wisdom (other than when it actually has been his experience). Many times throughout the thread he has credited other people just even for comparisons and analogies, let alone the bulk of the ideas in the OP. It would seem that you haven't read any of it, but instead made a LOT of assumptions.
Also I'm not sure if you're aware, but Chris Carter the author of this "e-book" or whatever, is very much a non-expert in relationships (he even admits he doesn't know anything, that he's just some guy that has observed his own and others' behaviours over time to write about his experiences in the "book"). Chances are very high that either he has either plagiarized someone else's work, or at the very least, if anything in this No contact advice portion of the thread resembles something in his book, he has probably gotten it elsewhere himself, and discreetly cites it.
I have talked to many women who actually wasted their time reading that "book" (I haven't myself), and they have all said the same thing: he offers no advice, just anecdotes. He doesn't offer any practical tips on how to meet men who are given to committment in the first place, let alone how to stay in a good relationship with them. Apparently he doesn't even offer advice on how to walk away from a bad relationship, or how to get over a breakup or anything like that. Many I've talked to who have had the unfortunate experience of being sucked in by his online promises have realized he is little more than a con. So good luck on "turning in" jarbarian to the "publisher" or "original author" of this advice. Chances are very high that Carter doesn't even offer any, at least from everything I've heard about him. In short MILF, you are not proving anything but how petty you are, and for no reason no less. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 12:54:37 PM | | he does take personal credit in msg 3 "follow his guidlines to a t"......if you read all, I placed a post confronting him on his deceipt he sent me a personal email attacking me......it's not his insight to take credit for......never said didn't like the info....actual said the message was great...he just wasnt the preacher......his entire forum....word for word including the disclaimer and the 5% from top of page to bottom of page is copied...WORD FOR WORD....the entire thing is copied......it comes out of a published book....but I guess if Jarbarian says he wrote it, he must have because you know him so well......keep defending him, I hear Charles Manson needs a pen pal also.... | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:03:39 PM | ^^^^^So where exactly does that advice come from, if not from "Catch Him and Keep Him". It sounds like you've changed your mind about where it comes from, and are now saying it comes from a published book (jarbarian himself has already cited that), and not "Catch Him and Keep Him", which is not a published book, merely an "e-book". It sounds like you have selectively read off this thread, and are now putting things out of context, quite honestly.
As another poster has already stated, a schmuck like Carter, is trying to dispense "advice" (which it is not, simply a waste of time according to everyone I know who has read it), and get money for it, while Jarbarian is actually trying to put this information out there (it's not coming from Carter!), by summarizing it, and from some of his own experiences, to try and help people. He is not charging money for it. So I'm not sure what you think you might be accomplishing by "turning him in" (since he's not doing this for a business or anything, and besides he does cite people when he's borrowed ideas)? What is all of this proving for you exactly?
Perhaps she can post the words so we can put to rest any notion I stole something from a "how to win a guy" web site.
That might be a good idea. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:06:17 PM | | Instead of debating your innocence......you turn to name calling.......you've done nothing but attack my character to prove you wrote the info, (BEING YOU HAVE DONE SO....YOU MUST BE THE ONE THAT WROTE THE FORUM...MY APOLOGY...NOT) it's the insecure that attack a person on a personal level with the name calling as a defense mechanizm and a way to deflect guilt....it falls under the circle of abuse. "the abuser when confronted attackes personally".....I will stop now before you start kicking your dog....hmmm....wasn't making a big deal initially, was stating it wasn't your insight......your the one trying to deflect attention away from the fact it's not your work with "I must be insecure"......that's got to be it.....can hardly wait for your next insightful forum..... | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:09:19 PM | | not sure what you were reading....still state that he stole the work from catch him n keep him.....it is an ebook that has falls under the copyright publication laws......ebook or print....still published and copywritten | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:18:05 PM | MILF: Funny that you accuse Jarbian of being an abusive person when all I see is a bunch of hatred coming from you.
"We dont always see things as they are, but as we are" Anthony Robbins. Thought I better place that disclaimer before I get accused of saying that was an original from me. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:19:25 PM | | If you'd like to pay the $ for the ebook....be my guest......I am not the one leading people around like Rev. Jimmy Jones.......or what was the guys name in Waco.....for as fun as this has been, have had a slice.....but will leave it for the legal department.....i am sure all your sheep with dig into their pockets and dig out $ for your defense.......you should think of starting your own people's temple....take care and good luck. | |
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| So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:20:07 PM | ^^^^^Sleepunderthestars: Absolutely agreed, couldn't have said it better myself. MILF, it might be better if you just get off the thread - you're not contributing anything useful (why would I waste time and money on a useless "e-book" again? Just to see if what you are saying is true, which I already know it's not?), you keep talking about post 3 and meanwhile are missing all the other posts where jarbarian does cite people for the ideas he has borrowed. It seems like that was the only post you actually read, and you missed all the others.
I have to agree with sleeepunderthestars - you have a lot of hatred within you, and for some reason today this is your target. | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 1:28:09 PM | | I guess we all need to believe what we need to when we need to.......I've not pewed hatred.....only confrontation to someone taking credit for work that doesn't belong to him.....he is the one name calling and deflecting......so not sure where you see the hatred coming from......I never said the info wasn't good, just not his.....anyhow, never thought him sending me a personal email attacking me and my integrity and then publically posting after could be construed as "my hatred" but so be it......I guess honesty is what your looking for afterall sleepunderthestars.....take care....Happy Easter to all | |
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| Only cowardly men hit and run
Posted: 4/8/2007 2:06:46 PM | he is the one name calling and deflecting
You've called me both a coward and liar. Now you're just being a hypocrite.
If, as you say, I "stole" this from an e-book, either post what I copied exactly (and please do give credit to the author) or shut up.
You've made countless accusations but have yet to show any valid proof.
As I said before the advice I have given contains some information from Dr. Dobson but is NOT copied word for word. A book he wrote in 1983. If there are any similarities, your e-zine guy stole it from Dr. Dobson. It has MY own spin on it. That's why I say it's my advice. The disclaimer I posted was done in MY OWN WORDS and not copied verbatim from anyone else and CLEARLY STATES that not all of the ideas are mine.
Don't you have a life at all? How sad...it's only those with deep insecurities whom go to the extent you do to try and prove themselves right, even when they are dead wrong. Sounds to me like you are trying to convince yourself that you are right.
As posters who have read that e-book have stated it is NOT copied from there. How could it be if I have NEVER READ THAT BOOK?
Now either put up or shut up. | |
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