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 Author Thread: So you want a second chance?
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1001
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 10:52:05 AM
[As christy2luv has already mentioned, I seriously doubt that milf or you, sunshine, would ever take the time to help your fellow human being as jarbarian has done in this thread, but it seems both of you would take the time to try and mar someone's name - and without giving any evidence for it no less! Puhleez.]

Again, such a personal attack on someone you don't even know......talking about maring someone's name without giving evidence.....you know nothing about me, my work or my charitable contributions to society.......

Yours seems to be this......kudos for you....
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1002
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:02:17 AM

My apologies for addressing you by your POF name....not to sure what your getting at with the stmts below?????????.....yes I addressed you by your name, not sure what the problem is.....please explain the sensitivity.

Farbarian,


It's not "F"arbarian - it's "J"arbarian.

Short for "Jarhead the Barbarian" a nickname a friend gave me when I was a U.S. Marine.


Not off topic at all, made it quite clear that this debate with you wasn't about the tread it was about your jumping all over MILF.....your so set on she has insecurity issues....than maybe you should have been a little more understanding and not posted that she had.....maybe offer her some research links to intelligently debate....


You are defending someone who has called me a liar and a coward all without an ounce of proof. I didn't attack her, she attacked me first. Had she read past the first page of the thread she would have seen exactly where I credited my sources instead of ASSUMING I plagurized.

Do you not understand that?


Milf's message to you #956 is very opinionated and accusatory, but an inocent man would have defended not become defensive.....


That is your assumption. Again, I have stated at least 4 times in this thread where I received my information from yet MILF has not posted any proof of her acusations.


then msg#967 is obviously after she read your personal email....who are you to make any moral assumption based on her name.....I believe you said yours stood for your marine name Jarhead Barbarian?????......yes I know what MILF is.....and I also know the meaning of BARBARIAN is..... uncivilized and uncultered person.....right from wikepedia also....not a personal attack, just a definition....but you challenge the meaning of MILF.....one in a glass house shouldn't throw stones....


The difference is I don't run around acting like a BARBARIAN. In fact, if you have read any of my posts you know that I have quite often helped other people who have gone through the same thing I have. That's not quite the definition of a BARBARIAN now is it?


once she challenges the authenticity of your work......and in your own words you attack her charachter and post the following


Again, I have no problem with her challenges. I have a problem with her calling me a liar and a plagurizer (and a coward) without posting ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER.

What part of that do you NOT understand?


I would say that was a personal character attack..


I would say calling someone a liar and a coward without posting any proof or doing any research is a personal character attack, wouldn't you? MILF launched the first insult (calling me a liar and plagurizer) and attack. I defended myself only because that is something I will not stand for. To sit idley by while being attacked, unfoundedly, is a character trait of a "door mat."


You keep saying that this has nothing to do with this thread.....you r right.....I have said that all along......this is a personal debate with you about your and your followers treatment of someone that you say has obvious insecurity issues.....if you truly felt bad for her as you indicated you would have defended in a way as to not slam her and bash her......


I see, so it's OK for her to insult me, to call me a liar and a coward, right? A coward would have run from defending himself, especially when he KNOWS he is neither.


by your admittance in your last post....you did far more that call her hypocrite....you challenge her character through her name, challenge her insecurities and stability openly......


I believe the way she went about attacking me without any credibility is a sure sign of insecurity. She attacked the information I have provided in this thread totally ignorant of the fact that I have cited my sources many times and the thread itself isn't about "who said what" it's about helping OTHERS.

Are you saying she is not to be held accountable for her actions as well? How is she immune or innocent here?

She has made the acusations yet provided no proof. If anything, SHE should be the one apologizing.


There is a difference between defend and defensive.....you have been defensive....if you were so upset, then one would think that you would have gone out of your way to post the links etc that you have been today....you might have gone through and stated what messages that you credit others in....etc....there was many things that you could have done to defend your honour than becoming abusive......


Again, if you or MILF had spent a few extra minutes to read through the thread, ALL of this could have been avoided. I have always stated where my sources have come from and did not feel that I needed to go to extreme lengths to prove it. It's always been there.

You said that the first link I posted proved nothing therefore I had to SHOW you proof. Proof is something that I have provided yet MILF has not provided any proof that I have plagurzied anything.

Again, burden of proof lies on the acuser, not the acused.


But you are the one making accusations and one would think that if you were in the right, you would want to clear your name in a civilized fashion and come out looking like the bigger person here.....


Again, I don't need your approval or MILFs. I have made NO acusations, I have asked for proof. I don't NEED to clear my name because I have not done what I have been acused of. The proof was there in the second and third pages of the thread. All MILF needed to do was READ.


No none of us read her email to you, you however did post what you privately emailed her and it was uncalled for .... then you blocked her, not allowing her to defend herself....so her "hit and run" title is fitting......that is by your own admissions....


I block anyone who immediately emails me with insults. I don't need to justify that to you or to her.


As far as my maturity (wow again with name calling, for someone so insightfull, your not very rational at times).....I dated a US Marine for over 6 months.....I can honestly say I have never met anyone with more of a sense of right and wrong, a strict code of Honour...helping the underdog, people who can't help themselves.....and always doing so in a very gentlmanly way.....have never met more of a gentleman......I have seen none of that in you......there is no honour in the way you chose to defend yourself.


All you have to do is put yourself in my shoes for a second. The information posted in this thread is a good example of how I have tried to help the underdog. You seem so hell bent on helping MILF, the "underdog" that you don't see the big picture here OR what is right or wrong. In fact, you still have yet to acknowledge that MILF has posted NO PROOF to her acusations yet have defended her vehemently. Over WHAT? The way I see things, if you are going to call someone a liar, you had BETTER have proof and be prepared to back it up.

How does it make you feel to know that you are defending someone who is making false acusations, herself calling people names and basically ruining a thread intended to help others? You have sat here and judged me over and over on the basis of me having to defend myself from being falsely acused. Something, had you been in my shoes, you may or may not have handled differently.

You don't know me from Adam.

I'm angry because it really peeves me to know that a thread intended to HELP OTHERS has deteriorated into a schoolyard playground. All of it based on one person's ASSUMPTION.

How sad.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1003
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:05:08 AM
Again, such a personal attack on someone you don't even know......talking about maring someone's name without giving evidence.....you know nothing about me, my work or my charitable contributions to society.......

Yours seems to be this......kudos for you....


It's been pointed out by you that she marred someone's name without any evidence. That she knows nothing about you.

This is exactly what MILF has been doing. This is exactly what YOU are doing!

You don't see the IRONY in that?
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1004
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:12:44 AM
please read my email to you......this isn't about your thread and it's benefit to others....it's about how you all attacked MILF and now me, I have not backed up her accusations, but have merely defended how you all ganged up on her....the name calling wasn't only yours but there were a few others as well.....

Again, I never said it wasnt your work, or wasn't good and insightful.....just that you all weren't fighting fair.....and still arent.....now I am being called names and my character assasinated......

but you see, you admit, you only blocked her after sending her an insulting email.....so fair is fair....

this is my last posting and it is very sad that someone can't voice opinion without being openly attacked.....wheew glad this was online and not inperson as with this crowd, one might be fearful for her safety for having an opinion....best of luck to you all.....
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1005
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:18:16 AM
[/It's been pointed out by you that she marred someone's name without any evidence. That she knows nothing about you.

This is exactly what MILF has been doing. This is exactly what YOU are doing!

You don't see the IRONY in that? ]

Again, I never agreed with her accusations or stated that the forum was bad, just defending the way you all attacked her......I never set out to mar anyone's name....just trying to bring civilized debate about.....but aparently that wasn't going to happen with this group.....

So no, it is not what I was doing......but by defending the treatment only.....and she intentionally marred my name and knows nothing more about me that I stand up for my principles and defend bullying.....casue from all i read...that is what went on
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1006
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:30:34 AM
please read my email to you......this isn't about your thread and it's benefit to others....it's about how you all attacked MILF and now me, I have not backed up her accusations, but have merely defended how you all ganged up on her....the name calling wasn't only yours but there were a few others as well.....


They all ganged up on her, rightlyfully so, for MAKING FALSE ACUSATIONS and calling me a coward without ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER TO BACK IT UP.

Why do you not understand that!?

Show me where I have called her a name other than hypocrite, which she is. She says I called her a name, I did not. She called me a liar and a coward. I merely commented on her POF handle saying "Your mom must be proud." Yes, that might have been out of line but it was NOT name calling.


Again, I never said it wasnt your work, or wasn't good and insightful.....just that you all weren't fighting fair.....and still arent.....now I am being called names and my character assasinated......


Hmm, let's see. I have been called a liar, a plagurizer and a coward. All publically and all done on FALSE acusations. If anyone's character has been assasinated, it's been mine and on UNFOUNDED ACUSATIONS.

What part of THAT do you not get?


but you see, you admit, you only blocked her after sending her an insulting email.....so fair is fair....


The first insult came from her and I blocked her because I didn't want to degrade myself into a shouting match. Instead she chose to take it to this thread and do it publicly. I tried to nip it in the bud by blocking her and she went gonzo in this thead. Completely off topic and completely full of false acusations.


this is my last posting and it is very sad that someone can't voice opinion without being openly attacked....


She wasn't stating an OPINION. Opinions aren't stated as facts. She factually stated that I was a liar. She said it based on someone else's work that I did not give credit for. That is not an opinion at all. And had she read past the first page of this thread she would have found out exactly where I got my information from.

And if she felt so strongly that I had stolen it from an e-zine, she would have posted some proof (exerpts) of what she belives I had stolen. She has yet to do that and when asked to do so, cites copyright infringement (even though posting brief expepts is perfectly legal and acceptable).

In other words, she was asked to provide proof and she did not. Now do you undersand why I am upset? My character has been assasinated publicly, with no proof, I defend myself and all you can say is that MILF had an opinion and was attacked.

She did NOT have an opinion. She stated what she felt was fact and IS WRONG. When it's been pointed out she was wrong, your focus was on the name calling isntead of what sparked this whole thing.

MILF's false acusations.


.wheew glad this was online and not inperson as with this crowd, one might be fearful for her safety for having an opinion....best of luck to you all.....


You still do not understand what OPINION means. Here:

o·pin·ion /?'p?ny?n/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

MILF did not claim an opinion. She presented her words as FACT with NO evidence to support it. I agree it looks like an opinion but that is NOT how she expressed it.

She called me a liar and a plagurizer. That's NOT an opinion.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1007
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:34:49 AM
Again, I never agreed with her accusations or stated that the forum was bad, just defending the way you all attacked her......


So you don't think falsely acusing someone of plagurizing, calling them a liar and a coward is attacking? She attacked ME yet you defend her. I defend myself yet you attack ME.

Again, the IRONY of this all.


I never set out to mar anyone's name....just trying to bring civilized debate about.....but aparently that wasn't going to happen with this group.....


How is calling someone a liar, coward and plagurizer, with no proof to back it up a CIVILIZED debate!? And you did NOTHING to help make this a civilized debate. All you did was throw gas on the flames.


So no, it is not what I was doing......but by defending the treatment only.....and she intentionally marred my name and knows nothing more about me that I stand up for my principles and defend bullying.....casue from all i read...that is what went on


I guess MILF deserves to be defended for making false acusations but I don't deserve to be defended at all, right? It's OK for MILF to bully others but certainly not OK for me to defend myself, right? It's OK for MILF to call me a liar and a coward but not OK for me to call her a hypocrite, right? It's OK for her to make statements regarding my integrity but NOT ok for me to defend it WITH PROOF, right?

Again, you are completely oblivious to the irony of EVERYTHING you say.
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1008
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:40:21 AM
I have never defended her accusations nor you for anything other than the way in which your defence came about....am willing to keep this private...if you stop posting

Am not oblivious to what I say.....have only said that I am defending her becasue you all ganged up on her, with name calling and slamming......

I NEVER called you a liar....just said you were all ganging up on her.....and still believe that.
 indrinita

Joined: 9/18/2006
Msg: 1009
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:42:36 AM
and she intentionally marred my name and knows nothing more about me that I stand up for my principles and defend bullying.....casue from all i read...that is what went on

Give me a break.. I did not mar your reputation or your name at all, by simply saying you have not read this thread and are making false accusations just like milf did! You are marring your own reputation with your behaviour on this thread. What you call name-calling (I didn't call anyone on this thread by any names by the way) is statements I made about you not reading the thread and commenting out of line. Statements about your behaviour on this thread, and turning what was meant to be a helpful thread into something that you yourself called a schoolyard fight. You didn't do anything to try and help the situation, and you are still throwing gas in the flames so to speak. Someone calling you immature is not name-calling, it is a description of your behaviour on this thread. Last time I checked immature was an adjective not a noun (i.e. a "name").

I didn't call you any names, but I made observations about your behaviour and your statements on this thread (such as misquoting out of context, going out of your way to mar someone's reputation, and not reading the thread in the first place!), and called you on it. The two are not the same thing. Get a reality check please. And I'm also not going to repeat all the things I said about referencing before that you didn't understand. If you didn't get my points, which I communicated clearly, I suggest you go back and re-read my posts.

You think you are doing so much good and restoring some kind of justice by defending someone who is basically spreading lies?! This is completely ridiculous. Milf still has yet to provide any evidence of plagiarism, while other people on this thread have shown you where work has been cited, even though there has been no obligation WHATSOEVER to do so. I thought you were done with this thread?
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1010
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:45:54 AM
[You still do not understand what OPINION means. Here:

o·pin·ion /?'p?ny?n/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

MILF did not claim an opinion. She presented her words as FACT with NO evidence to support it. I agree it looks like an opinion but that is NOT how she expressed it.

She called me a liar and a plagurizer. That's NOT an opinion. ]

If you read, by definition an opinion is "a belief or judgment that rests on GROUNDS INSUFFICIENT to produce complete certainty" and " a personal view, attitude..etc...

By your own definition, what MILF gave was an opinion....she may have chose to give it poorly, but was still attack, much as I have been for defending...

Her calling you a liar and plagurizer by definition is an opinion of hers.....obviously not shared by those in this forum....but you all chose to be nasty.....as you have stated two wrongs don't make a right!!!!!
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1011
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 11:57:31 AM

I have never defended her accusations nor you for anything other than the way in which your defence came about....am willing to keep this private...if you stop posting


I tried to nip this in the bud. It wasn't me that took it public.


Am not oblivious to what I say.....have only said that I am defending her becasue you all ganged up on her, with name calling and slamming......


She ganged up on me and you joined her. I never publicly called her names until after she called me a liar and a coward. And the ONLY name I ever called her was hypocrite. Of that, she deserved.


I NEVER called you a liar....just said you were all ganging up on her.....and still believe that


No but MILF called me a liar and has yet to back up her claims. Yet still, you defend her. Again, you don't see the irony in that. She has called me to the carpet publicly and yet has done NOTHING to prove her acusations.

She is getting a lot of backlash because she deserves it. How dare she call me a liar, a coward and a plagurizer without any credible evidence?

That is why she is being slammed.
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1012
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 12:00:20 PM
To Indrinita,


As christy2luv has already mentioned, I seriously doubt that milf or you, sunshine, would ever take the time to help your fellow human being as jarbarian has done in this thread, but it seems both of you would take the time to try and mar someone's name - and without giving any evidence for it no less! Puhleez.

What is wrong with people today! Are you illiterate or just plain lazy?! As I have said before, take the time to go and read and research a bit (through this thread, on other websites, etc.) before you decide to start a schoolyard row (your words, by the way, not mine) for no reason. I don't understand why people decide to "contribute" such shyte, especially on threads that are intended to help people.

Oh yeah, and sunshine: I AM exactly who I say I am on my profile, so don't assume that everyone lies on their profile (just because you and others may - I've noticed often people who assume that other people are doing something are themselves doing that thing, good or bad!).


wow lets see....you agree and feel the need to repost that I personally would ever take the time to help my fellow human being"....I CAN SEE HOW I COULD HAVE MISQOTED AND MISUNDERSTOOD THAT ONE....those are not observations about my behaviours but a character assasination.....

the there was in paragraph 2 "Are you illiterate or just plain lazy", wow....I now see how I could have also misquoted and misunderstood that one...

and to close your post off you end with "so don't assume that everyone lies on their profile (just because you and others may", I had assumed that you were directly calling me a liar" wheeew thanks for clearing up all of my misunderstandings......

I never said anything about the forum being bad, or it not being farbarians work....nor did I go after your character initially, as I do question it now....I simply said you all were not playing fairly.....

Again, thank you for clarifying that you were not marring my name with the above, weren't calling me names, but meerely your observations on my behaviour of defending MILF, not for what or how she said it, but because you were making observations about her behaviour as well.....good to know.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1013
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 12:01:10 PM
If you read, by definition an opinion is "a belief or judgment that rests on GROUNDS INSUFFICIENT to produce complete certainty" and " a personal view, attitude..etc...

By your own definition, what MILF gave was an opinion....she may have chose to give it poorly, but was still attack, much as I have been for defending...


No you are WRONG. She stated it AS FACT. ie: Liar and Plagurizer. That's NOT an opinion.


Her calling you a liar and plagurizer by definition is an opinion of hers.....obviously not shared by those in this forum....but you all chose to be nasty.....as you have stated two wrongs don't make a right!!!!!


LIAR
PLAGURIZER

That's not an opinion. An opinion is saying "I THINK you are a liar. I can't prove it, that's just my opinion." She didn't say that. She said that I *was* a liar based upon some e-zine book which she referred to but as of yet still has not posted proof.

An opinion by definition is something that can not necessarily be proven with facts. If she intended it to be an opinion she would have stated clearly that she could not back it. She did not do that. She said she COULD back it up but has yet to do so.

I've asked for it 1000 times now. If you are going to call me a liar and plagurizer, POST THE PROOOF or retract your words.
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1014
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 12:10:32 PM
Again, two wrongs don't make a right.....she took it public....you have allowed the name calling and I am not just talking about her.....this is your thread, on would think that would put an end to it now.....but you keep posting.....

But you more or less called her a slut with your implication and statements you made in your private email and then you block her.....

She is one person and couldn't possibly "gang up on you".....nor did I....I pointed out that all the name calling was uncalled for....

She is not the only one to call you that there were two others that I read....I personally never called you that.....but defended her from the school yard bullying tactics and for that I have been subject to the name calling and slamming.....

So sticks and stones may break my bones.....you are condoning her slamming....I see there is no point to furtering this discussion if you are condoning the name calling and slamming....

so by virtue of defending not her actions, but the ganging up on am subject to the name calling and slamming......

WOW, I can see how your insight helps so many people.....maybe you can write one on fighting fairly.....I know a few of your followers that would benefit from that one.
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1015
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 12:15:20 PM
but your own definition does not state that one has to say "i think"

I have called you non of the above.....but still insist that you don't fight fair......I have stated that she could have found a more tactful way of saying it.....so don't say my words as they are not....

but your defensiveness is beginning to give me pause for question....I have personally not attacked you, did not defend her accusations but only the way in which she's been gone after, but I seem to be subject to some nasty posts ....
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1016
Farbarian I do believe in right and wrong
Posted: 4/9/2007 12:25:10 PM
My apologies to you farbarian, I wish to point out ( I thought I had) that the way in which MILF accuses Farbarian without proof, publicaly was wrong.....it was an opion that she should have kept private or to herself....

I am not biased in my belief...she was wrong for accusing you the way she did.....but you have been wrong for allowing this to go on the way it has....this should have been between you and her....

I thought you were here to help.....I have done nothing to you other than accuse you of not fighting fair....why don't you read some of the post against me.....

Now Farbarian do you believe in right and wrong?
 Freude

Joined: 1/21/2007
Msg: 1017
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Posted: 4/9/2007 1:34:01 PM
What a shame that a thread which was proving so helpful and applicable to many broken hearts, has been taken over by this crap!
Jarbarian, I have read many of your posts on this and other threads and your reasoning and wisdom have always been consistent! No proof has been provided for the accusation.... let it rest.
Perhaps this thread can continue to be a haven for those seeking comfort, understanding and direction during a confusing and painful time.
 Bikeman_

Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 1018
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Posted: 4/9/2007 2:21:40 PM
Wow Milf/Sunshine, what a trollish spammer you are! Here all the naysayers are attacking Jarbarian just because he is a purveyor of COMMON SENSE! Jarby, I got your back on this one. I've got a sneaky suspicion a moderator is going to come sweeping in here and whack a whole bunch of senseless off-topic posts.

By the way, has anybody other than me noted that the spammer Milf/Sunshine has got ghost profiles, both noting Sarnia Ontario as a residence, both profiles were started in January 2007? Sorry spammer, one profile per person please.

What a shame that a thread which was proving so helpful and applicable to many broken hearts, has been taken over by this crap! Jarbarian, I have read many of your posts on this and other threads and your reasoning and wisdom have always been consistent!...Perhaps this thread can continue to be a haven for those seeking comfort, understanding and direction during a confusing and painful time.
Now Freude, here's a thread where you and I agree! This thread is spot on for advice regarding those people experiencing breakups. I haven't read all of it, but I don't sense that Jarbarian is the type to plagarize anybody's thoughts. Anybody with an ounce of intelligence reading what he has said here can clearly see he is expressing his opinions on the topic, and that those opinions were formed from his life experiences which substantiate a sound core philosophy. Where that philosophy comes from is really his business. I'm sure the DDA corporation want people to start using their common sense instincts like Jarbarian recommends in this thread, then their mealticket would be going POOF because of PoF!

And another thing, Jarbarian's advice isn't tailored just for women like Milfie/Sunshine is implying. If this spammer had read any of the thread, there have been both men and women intelligently venting in here and gaining much emotional release from sharing their thoughts with other people. Um that's why it is in the "Broken Hearts" forum? Duh.

Oh, anybody with a shred of common sense would know that David DeAngelo and Christian Carter are one and the same, just like this Milf/Sunshine spammer. Hell maybe that dating advice bilge isn't coming out of Las Vegas but maybe Sarnia Ontario! You aren't working for DeAngelo, are you Sunshine Milfie?
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1019
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 2:38:59 PM
Thank you, bike man.

I also noticed that MILF and Sunshine both write the same way with the dots between their sentences.

You smell a rat, I smell a rat.

What a shame. No wonder Sunshine so vehemently (and wrongfully) defended MILF. They are ONE AND THE SAME!
 Bikeman_

Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 1020
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Posted: 4/9/2007 2:54:50 PM
I've got a pretty good decent bullshit detector. TDH is the master bullshit detector, though.

This thread, your thread Jarbarian, is truly a blessing for so many people. I hope it survives. Good luck to you my friend!
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1021
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 3:53:48 PM
it is true that MILF and I are from the same town, I do know her.....she is the one that pointed out the forum to me......I can assure you we are not one in the same.......I never claimed that I didn't know her, nor did anyone ask.......I would have said so if you had.....after she forarded your email to me is when I jumped in......I believe there were also two others from different parts of the world that accused you of stealing the your work from someone else.....I guess I must be them too......I never defended what she said, not once did I accuse you of lying....... just the ganging up on her.....most people that I chat with on here type with the dots between that is actually where I picked up up from.....what is sad is your still character assasinating......

amazing how I must be one in the same as I have a similar writing style as MILF, but because your work is similar to others, there is no possibility that you stole the work....now who is being a hypocrite......you have figured nothing out other than MILF and I are from the same town and yes, I do know her.....but I never said otherwise, nor did you ask......and aparently, you never read my profile.....or you would have noticed that we were from the same town......I actually expected flack fromyou that I must know her as we are from the same town......never expected to be her.

There were two other friends of mine from Sarnia that joined in January also.....I guess I am them too....lol
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1022
So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 5:36:35 PM

This thread, your thread Jarbarian, is truly a blessing for so many people. I hope it survives. Good luck to you my friend


Thank you sir. I am sure if the moderators get ahold of the thread they can see where it took a nose dive and hopefully correct the problem.

This is a thread to help people, not to make false acusations and lies with nothing to back it up.

Cheers mate.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 1023
Wow, you are pretty good.....
Posted: 4/9/2007 6:40:28 PM
So now you're making up profiles of me to try and lend yourself some credibility since we all know you are MILF too?

Pathetic.

The moderators will know who you are by your IP address and they've already been alerted. Let's hope they do the right thing and BAN you from the site.
 Bikeman_

Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 1024
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So you want a second chance?
Posted: 4/9/2007 6:46:41 PM
I want to apologize for the Sunshine/Milf comment about these two profiles actually represent one person. I don't know that to be necessarily true; upon a little bit of reflection these could definitely be two women who know each other and joined PoF at the same time. Then again, who knows?

That being said . . .

. . . I don't think Milf's opinions are correct. I'd rather place my faith in Jarbarian's opinions instead of someone choosing Milf as a profile name. Besides, it sounds like Milf bought Christian Carter's schlock he offers as dating advice. Granted much of it makes sense, but I shudder to think there are people actually purchasing that stuff for anything other than entertainment value.

I'm sorry for participating in this off-topic chatter.
 Sunshine6971

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 1025
Wow, you are pretty good.....
Posted: 4/9/2007 6:50:11 PM
as you state, the moderators will know who is who and what you did was simply cruel......and you talk about credibility......MILF was not the only one that claims you plagerized, again there were two others.......again Brian, people in glass houses......
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