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 Summer Teeth

Joined: 3/9/2006
Msg: 76
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 2:34:25 PM
Too many people define themselves by their careers instead of their relationships with other people--more specifically, how you treat others, especially loved ones. What a crock. No one can have a conversation, a hug, or a kiss with a paycheck or a resume.
 delve

Joined: 2/8/2006
Msg: 77
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:24:52 PM
Outdo: your assumptions are completely incorrect. I'm one of those women you're talking about and I've never approached any relationship with that attitude. Others have made the same assumptions about me and they have influenced those I've been with to think there is no future. Now, I understand why they were successful.

Please re-think your assumptions. They are just not based in reality. Like Summerteeth said, you can't hug and kiss your resume.
 TallDarkNSweeet

Joined: 11/20/2005
Msg: 78
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:28:33 PM
Will this happen... does it happen? Yes...

The balance of who is the breadwinner in a partnership can
even change from one side to the other depending on the couple
and the talents of the individuals or carriers involved. One may
be a student as the other works to help the other.

Squirrly.. [post 60]

the word "successful" is definitely up for debate....

^^^
Squirrly... Great debate... and I think we should define success here, since
we all look at it differently.

Will successful women date a less successful man?

Well perhaps the women (or man) could see potential in the other and pick
him right out of the unemployment line and help him to get his carrier off
the ground... help him to be all he can be... make a real man out of him!

Women are good at this... Often... you will notice behind every great man
is a great women. Women have been known for there ability to inspire
their men. In most cases two minds are simply better then one.
Bodies too, for that matter... but that is another topic... lol!

Hopefully money is not number one thing we judge another by but truefully
it comes in there somewhere... it could be a close second or third but no one
is attracted to a bum who is lazy and doesn't work.

A good father or brother would advise those they love that a good helpmate
should be resourceful and that this is an attractive attribute.... So how do
we define success properly and how do we value money in a healthy way?


The best advise I have found so far:

A) Money is not everything, but poverty is nothing.
B) It’s the lust for money that is evil not money in it’s self.
C) It’s not how much money you make; it’s what you do with it... that counts.


Keep in mind!

Lots of people have money and they waste it...
foolishly... and in the end they will have nothing...

Some have very little money but they invest it...
wisely... and in the end they will have more then most.

Who amongst us enjoys "poverty" since the word can only be negative.
However the word “poverty" is in all honesty just a frame of mind...
A negative mind set!!!

What is attractive to me is a person who
appears to have nothing, but is happy.


… the person who works hard for little pay, yet doesn’t' complain at the end of the day.
… the person who fines the silver lining in their cloud.
… the person that sees their cup as half full instead of half empty.
… the person who makes the best with what they have and is happy.

These people are richer then those of us with money who can't seem to get enough.
These happy people are not poor at all and are far easier to love.
These are the people who understand the other meanings of the word rich.
These are the people that I love and try to learn from!!!

Lets face the truth… when it comes to money and success; some
are wise with their time and talents and therefore have money
and some are not. If a successful person can help their less wiser
mate in the area of success in life then there is a good match...
BUT if the lesser of the two can not take the lead of the more
successful helpmate then many will not bother.


As for me I’m still learning!!!

TDNSweet

:wink:
 buccaneer38

Joined: 9/15/2005
Msg: 79
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Posted: 3/27/2006 3:35:43 PM
I think most in here, are saying what they think they should say to look good, but the truth of the matter is that if you meet someone that doesn't have two dimes to rub together, it makes you wonder for sure. OK, this person is an adult and has NOTHING...........I would wonder if they had a brain in their head. Tracy
 pepper2

Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 80
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:41:14 PM
Depends on how you rate success
If I date a man who loves his job and goes to work happy every day but doesnt make a lot of money I would still call him a huge success
a man who goes to work but hates it and earns a lot of money this guy would be a failure
 Catch A Star

Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 81
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Posted: 3/27/2006 3:42:42 PM
Yes, what Pepper said.
 Lux_Interior

Joined: 12/18/2005
Msg: 82
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:50:22 PM

Men used to take up with lowly women all the time. But now that women are in the workforce, do they likewise rescue poor lowly men? NO! They do not. They turn of their noses at the poor **stards and chase after men who play golf or tennis and drink coffees made with ingredients from a half a dozen countries. Injustice, thy name is woman.


Good lord, so many of you hate women.
 Dahliakitten

Joined: 10/14/2005
Msg: 83
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Posted: 3/27/2006 3:53:52 PM
What is working for me today is dating a man who has an equal or higher level of education. Only because I have mainly dated men who have less education than myself. They always have a inferior complex on my being more educated than they are and then they lash out at me by cheating on me and saying mean things like, "So you think you are too good for me, so you think you are so smarter than me, I can make more money than you can, I have more money than you have, excetera...I would land up defending myself and my education. Who you are leaks out in the relationship. 3 men went back to college. Only one completed his degree in business.
 99c

Joined: 3/24/2006
Msg: 84
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:56:28 PM

Good lord, so many of you hate women.

Good lord, so many of you take things literally.
 Lux_Interior

Joined: 12/18/2005
Msg: 85
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:59:00 PM
Right. Odd that I should think someone means what they say when there's no indication that they don't. Silly me.
 99c

Joined: 3/24/2006
Msg: 86
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 3:59:57 PM
You're just in a bad mood tonight.

 Summer Teeth

Joined: 3/9/2006
Msg: 87
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 4:12:41 PM

the truth of the matter is that if you meet someone that doesn't have two dimes to rub together, it makes you wonder for sure.


You certainly have a point, but I understood the thread in this manner: would a woman have a relationship with a man who makes 40k/year while she makes 60k/year?

To me it's an anal question, and not an issue, but--for others--maybe it's not. I wouldn't care if a woman makes more money than I do. I have a job right now that doesn't pay as much as I could make in a larger city. If I moved, I could double my income. But I enjoy my co-workers, my boss, and many of my accounts--and I enjoy living in a smaller town, and that right there is worth not making as much money in my weird little world. It's worth a lot.

It all comes down to a choice. Let's say a woman meets two men. One man's priorities are relationships, family, and friends. Let's say he makes 40k. Now, the other guy makes 80k, but his priorities are work related, and he assumes the money he would contribute would more than make up for not spending as much time at home. Who would a woman choose? Well, it depends on what her priorities are.

That's what it comes down to. What's important for you? That's it. Pretty easy.
 cloudedjudgement

Joined: 3/27/2006
Msg: 88
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 4:14:40 PM
I typically like for men to be on the same level as myself.
 keepingit

Joined: 3/10/2006
Msg: 89
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 5:09:32 PM

I counted I had close to 1,000 books in my library. Everything from Socrates to Sun Tzu.


You never ever mention Socrates before Sun Tzu.

If a woman can reach inside me intellectually one minute and rough up my hair the next then she's in.
 Lux_Interior

Joined: 12/18/2005
Msg: 90
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 5:52:01 PM

You're just in a bad mood tonight.


I'm rarely in a bad mood any night, I guess I just I just believe people mean the stuff they say. I know I do.
 RapunzelRapunzel

Joined: 5/18/2005
Msg: 91
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Posted: 3/27/2006 6:01:56 PM
Well, I have an MFA and the highest staff position in my department, and I make more than some of the faculty, too. In the last year I've dated, among many, a biochemist and a waiter. My favorite? The waiter. I still call him up about every other week. Adore his company. He's adorable, of course, but intelligent, worldly (was in Army,) boyish, fun and witty as heck. I'd certainly be serious or even marry someone like him, if we were at that point in our lives right now. But we aren't so I just enjoy him for who he is.

I think the secret is intelligence and the way a person carries themselves. I used to be all gung-ho on a guy having a college ed until I met this guy. Maybe he just has charm and the gift of gab but I can honestly take him ANYwhere, which I can't say about every guy of less formal education I've dated. I went out with him on a lark about a year ago and was blown away at how well we meshed. He's not perfect, mind you, but he is a great date, when he shows up, lol.

Rap
 basicallysweet

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 92
Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/27/2006 6:24:23 PM

Men used to take up with lowly women all the time. But now that women are in the workforce, do they likewise rescue poor lowly men? NO! They do not. They turn of their noses at the poor **stards and chase after men who play golf or tennis and drink coffees made with ingredients from a half a dozen countries. Injustice, thy name is woman.


I'm thinking the above was written in just?? Hope so....

I for one am not interested in "rescuing any poor lowly men"! And for that matter the men that used to take up with 'lowly women all the time'...... are you referring to the more traditional 50's or even 60's when women more often than not were stay at home mom's/wives. First of all.... those were not poor lowly women, it was a reflection of societal norms. Times have changed, and comparing the 50's generation to today is like comparing apples and oranges. It might seem the same to some, but in fact it's very different.

As I said before I'd date someone 'less sucessful, but he'd need to be intelligent, confident... and sexy wouldn't hurt either. Basically it'd be about the connection and how he treated me.
 dave1234

Joined: 11/7/2004
Msg: 93
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Posted: 3/27/2006 7:30:54 PM
Yes, they certainly will. I'm living proof. It's been ten years. My sweety makes considerably more money than I do and she is also nine years younger. As women are so fond of saying, "Never settle."
 cotter

Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 3/27/2006 7:54:18 PM

Will successful women date a less successful man?
Probably ... but it will only work if he does not let his ego get in the way. I think those situations are more bound to occur with men who are secure about themselves.

A man who is secure about himself generally won't let anything get in the way of being with a woman he wants.
 BadBrain

Joined: 3/12/2006
Msg: 95
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Posted: 3/28/2006 6:38:03 AM
Men used to take up with lowly women all the time. But now that women are in the workforce, do they likewise rescue poor lowly men?


I'm not sure most people want to be 'rescued' so much as they don't want to be written off simply because of what they do to get so cash in hand.


so=some :)
 cheekychica

Joined: 11/12/2005
Msg: 96
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Posted: 3/28/2006 7:24:20 AM
I dont think sucesses is measured by a paycheck, or how much their schooling cost.. or how long it took them to get to where they are.
I think, if you are truely happy and foufilled in what ever career choice you are in.. then go you.
I dont need you to make more money then me.. I just need you to be foufilled, and happy with what you are doing with your life.
What it really comes down to is.. are you happy? can you support yourself? can you pay your way when we go out? (even if I insist on paying)
 sddude

Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 97
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Posted: 3/28/2006 8:28:19 AM
some will most will not , I have tried and have been burned , the turn downs are firmer and less irrational with highly educated socailly elite woman but still very humiliating ,

I do not care what a woman makes , I am still the man , she could live in a dumpster or be a ceo ( I went out with a couple of high powered female bosses) as long as she is attractive on the outsside and pleasant to be with all else is all her own thing.

The more I hear from alot of woman and their "preferences" the more shallow I feel they are than men and I thought it was the other way around before I signed up on this site.
 outdo

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 98
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Posted: 3/28/2006 11:37:04 AM
delve...............

i read your profile and you portray yourself like you do love your job, and men come and go

why should i rethink my assumptions........???????
if you really are one of those women, and others are influencing men to think like i think
and they end up leaving you, then i think the problem does not lie in what the rest of society thinks (because we are the majority, regardless) but the problem of a successful woman lies in herself..........trouble dating? (too picky??i can't answer that for you, i just have an opinion that i still think fits the situation) and that is the values of a successful woman are opposite of that of a man and thats the way it is...like it or not,,,,if you don't then give up your day job and try being real as the man you think you could date and work his job, see how long you last....

plus, back on topic here....
if he wanted to be successful, he would be...and you'd get along fine.........
but perhaps...his success would call for a different type of lady

 Felinessa

Joined: 3/2/2006
Msg: 99
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Posted: 3/28/2006 11:49:43 AM

as long as she is attractive on the outsside and pleasant to be with all else is all her own thing.

The more I hear from alot of woman and their "preferences" the more shallow I feel they are than men and I thought it was the other way around before I signed up on this site


Right, so your desire to have someone who is "attractive on the outside" is less shallow than someone else's desire to have someone with an education?

HYPOCRISY.

If you have your own preferences, you have no right to question others'.
 99c

Joined: 3/24/2006
Msg: 100
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Posted: 3/28/2006 12:01:17 PM
Let's say his idea of success is dating a more successful woman. Then as soon as they go out, he is successful. That should satisfy them both. Logic is our friend.
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