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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 12:04:10 PM | I like to think that I am fairly successful. My partner is a mechanic.
Doesn't matter how much money the SO makes.. as long as you can live together, respect each other, treat each other as equals, and each put 100% into the relationship.. you are going to make it work. | |
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delve
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Joined: 2/8/2006
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 12:42:25 PM | Outdo,
I didn't ask for a personal review.
But again, you have canvassed your faulty logic. Men come and go? Where did I write that?
You admit you're not a successful woman yet you know the values of one? Nice try. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 12:48:26 PM |
What a crock. No one can have a conversation, a hug, or a kiss with a paycheck or a resume.
Not true. They can do all of those things. I've kissed a paycheck and hugged my resume ... I know I have had a conversation with my paycheck - first I told it that some day it would grow up and be big and strong, and these days I tell it how sick I am getting of it and how I will soon replace it with a bigger paycheck.
Now, I'm not playing with a full deck of cards, but I'm just proving the point - this can be done. | |
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Joined: 1/27/2006
Msg: 107 | |
| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 2:20:18 PM | I've had problems with all previous relationships with 'less successful men', so now I'm a little cautious. That is not to say I won't date a 'less successful man', but they have to turn out to be pretty special for me to consider a relationship.
Problems include the seemingly fragile male ego, time I spend at work, my priorities re. work, not understanding how wired I can be because of work, and in every case of a long term relationship with a 'less successful man', money issues of one sort or another.
The money thing is complicated. For example, I don't want to deny myself a good holiday when I can afford it, but my paying for my partner to come along is often resented. I have no problem with splitting household expenses according to income, but that is often resented. On the other hand, if they become spongers (as happened with my ex husband who decided without discussion that he didn't need to work any more because I made enough money), *I* get resentful.
Qualities of the 'less successful man' would need to be:
- Comfortable with himself and his own achievements
- My intellectual equal
- Have non-tradititional success/achievement (e.g., raising kids alone, music, sport, craftsman, artist, motorsport etc.).
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 4:26:11 PM | Its been quoted a cople of time and I am sure whether they want to or nor, guys have this ingrained somewhere in their pschye
Men used to take up with lowly women all the time.
Well htat is one half of the story. Success can be measured by lots of things. Cars, houses, money and other trivia that you do not miss when they are gone.
The measure of a man, (and by man I mean person  ), is their achievements and having a happy home and family ) the larger the better in many places) is the biggest achievement.
Do not underestimate the saying that "Behind every great man is a great woman". In many cases it applies. Hell I am I a better person when I am with a good partner.
Now in all honesty the same probably applies the other way around but not to the same degree.
Successful women have in many cases made sacrifices to get where they are... by themselves. That is no mean feat in a world where women stil earn less than us guys. Men can get to where they are because they are supported by their wives. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 4:32:33 PM |
I think that an unsuccessful male would have a problem dealing with the female's success.
Society in general would ponder or even be bold enough to ask about the situation ,,,,,,
because it doesn't happen too often.
And even if it does happen............we think less of the man who now becomes the SLACKER at home while she brings home the bacon. Needless to say, we do think it is funny when a man stays at home and cooks dinner and cleans the house as she busts her B***s off making sure they maintain their lifestyle. Now how do you take your husband to a dinner party when he doesn't have much to conversate about with her colleagues.
There is nothing worse than people that judge and look down on other people. I know OUTDO was making a valid point... it would be a hard scenario.... but I say you have not married your friends so pick better ones.
People act differently in changing environments. Work, ball games, the club. If your partner becomes like those so called friends then that is the knife in the back. If I was an at home guy looking after the family I would get a divorce and take the kids if anyone did not treat me with the respect I deserved. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/28/2006 4:44:44 PM | After listening to all of you, I'd have to say that There are going to be alot of lonely but rich women out there.
From my perspective as a single father, I'd rather be poor and in love, then Rich and lonely. But then again, You could just buy happyness with all that money. and the piece of ass. Couldn't you?
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Joined: 11/4/2004
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 9:06:26 AM | On the question of being shallow .
Felinessa , mmm you are so not rational , you already know me through the stuff I write , attractiveness on the outside and being pleasant was also virtually all woman's preference to begin with , all say there has to be attraction .
In addition to career and personal and finacial success that woman treasure , respond to, prefer or require , hieght is of great importance to the great majority of woman , being a guy with presence is of great importance , having things is of great importance to a smaller percentage but most guys see it differently becaus eof experiences from alot of woman , including I , being incredibly funny is of great importance , being externally secure and show it is of great importance to woman , to stand out of the crowd as the man in charge or the manifestation of it is of great importance , being the one who takes action in initiating a relationship is of great impoertance .
For woman , just being a pleasant guy is nothing even if he is great inside , pleasant on the outside and the inside is not good enough for the GREAT majority of woman , guys have to have a much greater package of greater value thean guys require of woman .
Still I am simple like most guys , if a woman looks pleasant on the outside ( who wants to go for an unpleasant one ?) and the inside is also pleasant( little or no drama ...pleasant ) she is someone to talk to , to get to know , to consider , she needs not to be successful , not need to be short or tall , supermodel or not ( just pleasant ) , most guys do not care if she has her own place or a car , I personally do not care if she has a job and does not go to school as long as she is pleasant and nice to me . If she has a career she loves and all the stuff that goes with it more power to her but to most guys that is not a requirement , being pleasant inside and out is still the priority. Guys would give anything to have a girl that looks and acts pleasant , alot of woman do not seem to get it. Yes there are a.s.s.h.o.l.e.s. out there wealthy and poor , successful and unsuccessful , they still get alot of women you choose them for some deep spiritual reason or a shallow one but guys still would just want a waman to be pleasant in and out , not a mannekin that says nothing , that is not pleasant but most people , especially the learned ones know what I am talking about.
Why do you think most guys would choose Mary Ann over Ginger ? What is so shallow about that ?
I still think guys are less shallow with their list of preferences and specifications even though most are turned on by model types even thought that is not necessary at all . | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 9:11:31 AM |
In addition to career and personal and finacial success that woman treasure
You have a list chock full of women stating they DON'T treasure those things, yet you insist that they do?
Contempt isn't attractive at all. | |
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Joined: 11/4/2004
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 10:48:34 AM | there is a chalk load of woman that have stated that fact also , have you read this and other threads at all ? , if you lived life like a guy or were a guy out here and were on the receiving end you would understand, you are defensive like I am dissing you personally , alot of woman do this , most do , like most would not go out with a guy for being this or that , okay that does not include you or the ones that mention that they were not that way ... just most that I have talked to , here and out there .
Kind of like the short threads , all say they are not that way then the same admit with the majority that they do not prefer it of feel uncomfortable with one . Guys really know the answer , we are at the receiving end . , it happens over and over .
You talk like it never happens , I do not say all are like that , never said that but if I gave that impression sorry for hurting your feelings , it happens alot , happens to me and other guys , I was reciently called not up to par with a woman scientist I wanted to go out with , she had a "better" more economically impressive lifestyle than I , I make 80 k a year , she makes way more than that , she told me that she preferrred a guy that had his life more in tuned with her lifestyle , she is not intellectually superior to me but economically is .
Why do you think I mention this , I made it up , guys complaints are just lies ? it does not exist ? it is our fault for not being equally or superior to some woman in social economic stature ?
I am not talking about you , just to all the woman that bravely admitted to it and the ones that have shunned us for being inferiror .
I would still date a homeless redneck girl if she met my two small expectations . | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:50:09 AM | | Intimidation: IF you were intimidated by someones success, but were attracted to them would you turn down an invitation to go aon a date. Doubtful. Sucessful and intelligent women love to use the "Intimidation" excuse because they want to avoid the real reason they are single, which usually is because they are butt ugly or average looking and go after men who are out of their league. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 12:03:59 PM |
there is a chalk load of woman that have stated that fact also , have you read this and other threads at all ?
Yes sdude, I've read this thread. I've been posting to it for quite some time too. There's TONS of women who don't treasure the all-mighty dollar. There's tons of women who require that he be able to support himself, period... regardless of what he does for a living. And there's quite a few who won't date a less successful man.
The odds are not even though they are varied.
if you lived life like a guy or were a guy out here and were on the receiving end you would understand, you are defensive like I am dissing you personally , alot of woman do this , most do , like most would not go out with a guy for being this or that , okay that does not include you or the ones that mention that they were not that way ... just most that I have talked to , here and out there .
I am defensive?? You accused a whole lot of women of being gold-diggers largely because YOU are depressed and down on women (I've read many of your comments on the board lately).
It doesn't matter what kind of women you talk to when you're in the shape you're in (depressed)... it just won't ever go well. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 12:06:59 PM | I agree with the post above....
...and you know if there's chemistry....that's the bottom line. It's all about the chemistry.
Life's too short for snobbery. If the guy fits, that counts. All this other stuff is just superficial fluff. So many women lose out on life because of snotty attitudes. And we complain of men being stupid and superficial. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 3:40:19 PM | Hi sddude. Your posts reminded me of one lady I met, 10 or so years ago. She was telling me about a guy she arranged to meet at a bistro. They were sitting outside having a drink and after the guy spent the last hour trying to impress her with his financial status he suggested they go back to his place. She agreed.
"I'll meet you at the parking lot exit and you can follow me home", he said.
"What type of car are you driving?" she asked.
"Oh, you'll see me", he said.
There he was, at the exit, in his bottom-of-the-line, three year old Mercedes convertible with a grin on his face that quickly changed to shock as she pulled up beside him in her top-of-the-line, Mercedes sedan that was worth twice the price of his car. Hahahahahahaha
Anyway, she had come to meet me at my home. I thought that was kool. It was obvious I wasn't in her league, financially, so she said, "I don't intimidate you, do I?"
"Well, not here in the living room. Perhaps we should try the bedroom", I replied. 
We laughed and had a pleasant time. I asked her if she wasn't cautious about meeting a guy at his house and she explained she owned a business and was used to meeting male clients for drinks, etc., so she could handle situations well.
She asked me if I thought she was a snob. I told her I didn't as she knew my address and knew it was a working-class neighborhood. No one owned the type of car she drove yet she still came to visit me.
Anyway, I finally did meet a lady with a good job and she moved me to a better area of town.
Don't settle! | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 5:25:16 PM | Regarding my post 78
Thank goodness none of you are typo cops...
VVV
Women are good at this... Often... you will notice behind every great man is a great women.
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That's woman not women
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Summer Teeth,
It all comes down to a choice. Let's say a woman meets two men. One man's priorities are relationships, family, and friends. Let's say he makes 40k. Now, the other guy makes 80k, but his priorities are work related, and he assumes the money he would contribute would more than make up for not spending as much time at home. Who would a woman choose? Well, it depends on what her priorities are.
^^^
I think your post ansered the Op's question very well!!!
TDnSweet
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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/29/2006 10:01:18 PM | oh well , I guess it never happens, my bad , I guess most women are angels after all.
no sense for any of them to be here with such perfection and spiritual niceness. | |
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| Will successful women date a less sucessful man?
Posted: 3/31/2006 11:00:33 PM | Two young people without a thing
Say some vows and spread their wings
Settle down with just what they need
Livin' on love
She don't care 'bout what's in style
She just likes the way he smiles
It takes more than marble and tile
Livin' on love
Livin' on love, buyin' on time
Without somebody nothin' ain't worth a dime
Just like an old fashioned story book rhyme
Livin' on love
It sounds simple that's what you're thinkin'
But love can walk through fire without blinkin'
It doesn't take much when you get enough
Livin' on love
Two old people without a thing
Children gone but still they sing
Side by side in that front porch swing
Livin' on love
He can't see anymore
And she can barely sweep the floor
Hand in hand they'll walk through that door
Just livin' on love
Livin' on love, buyin' on time
Without somebody nothin' ain't worth a dime
Just like an old fashioned story book rhyme
Livin' on love
It sounds simple that's what you're thinkin'
But love can walk through fire without blinkin'
It doesn't take much when you get enough
Livin' on love
Livin' on love, buyin' on time
Without somebody nothin' ain't worth a dime
Just like an old fashioned story book rhyme
Livin' on love
It sounds simple that's what you're thinkin'
But love can walk through fire without blinkin'
It doesn't take much when you get enough
Livin' on love
No, it doesn't take much when you get enough
Livin' on love | |
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