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 Author Thread: Jill Carrol
 ~softEDGE~

Joined: 6/12/2005
Msg: 51
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 11:46:00 AM
You don't know what I have been or what I am.
true, but we all have a right to our perceptions, opinions and thoughts, just as you, no? isn't that what christians believe? i doubt the extremists do...devo wrote a song about it, waaay back in the 80's: freedom of choice. that's hopefully what we all still can share here, whether we agree and align, or disagree, and chose not to. that's a part what made this country great, but we all got a bit confused regarding policing the world and demading all follow one rule, we screwed up, 'cause that's dictatorship, remember history class?

Call me uneducated call me a sheep but do it on a post where its about political agenda's.
you, uneducated? oh c'mon already, where's the sense of humor?
i'm glad i can laugh at my rodent like self...i'm just wondering what agenda's are?!

of course it's a great thing she was freed, but there is so much MORE to this particular story.
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and posting as others do and will continue to do, in threads all over this site.
that's what they are for, and life isn't all about agreement, or getting what we want or like, all the timeis it? people have differing views, and have every right to post on any forum, with a modicum of delivery being fair, and that's ok.
in fact, it's better than simply ok, known as diversity, which we all could stand more of; it can be a great tool for learning, growth and expanding one's knowledge, but not if one expects all to play nice and stay within the confines of one in particular's way of thinking. yeah, wouldn't it be great if life were like a disney movie, and everything is all great and pastelly in real life? i think not, for without all of life to be embraced in insight and reality, even with pain, we would never appreciate all the good in life. like freedom of expression, for example.

i am certain that no one here is in the least UNhappy for jill carroll's release.

 dallasguy99

Joined: 1/23/2006
Msg: 52
Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 11:49:31 AM
Under those guidelines when Jill Caroll:

takes a crap, start a new thread.
gets a pap smear, start a new thread.
walks her dog Smarmy, start a new thread.

Mmmmm, good.
 little_mermaid

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 53
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 11:56:36 AM
I agree with most everything you said..

But again this post wasn't about anything but being grateful for her return.

I believe your original post was more..lets talk politics, religion, geared then mine.

Mine was simple. Mock if you like.

i am certain that no one here is in the least UNhappy for jill carroll's release.

(Is that really the message you got from my last posting??)

Sometimes it almost feels pointless.
 ~softEDGE~

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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 12:02:32 PM
little,
But again this post wasn't about anything but being grateful for her return.
believe it or not, i DO understand, but do you not understand people are people, and aren't likely to stay within the confines of a current event with the same exact views, and to expect that will only hurt. life is about exchanging ideas, not making everyone adhere to our own, solely, that's just selfish. so, un jill carroll-like.
as i said as well, i am happy for her safe return, and if you read my thread in it's entirity, you would have gleaned that THERE where a thread was already begun.
to begin your own was against pof's rules which you agreed to and tos, and i don't make the rules up. why make more work for mods?
why serve one's self and confuse other posters by making two on one main topic/subject?
others point it out, and you state they can leave, plain mean, wrong and rude, with no apology, even. hard to believe you are that good natured as you show no regard for others that feel, evidently, as much as you do, on the topic of jill carroll.
 cougar99

Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 55
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 12:08:42 PM

edit: And the Christian Science Monitor does not have anything to do with Christians, or the monitoring of Christians. Despite its name, the Monitor was not established to be a religious-themed paper, nor does it directly promote the doctrine of its patron church. The Monitor is widely read by CIA and other intelligence agency analysts because of the newspaper's attention to accuracy and global perspective.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science_Monitor

Despite its name, the Monitor was not established to be a religious-themed paper, nor does it directly promote the doctrine of its patron church.

The Monitor (or "CSM" as it is known in the intelligence community) is widely read by CIA and other intelligence agency analysts because of the newspaper's attention to accuracy and global perspective.


Better tell Wikipedia to stop stealling your opinions.....

As far as two threads on the same subject, whats the issue?
There are tons of threads on bush and politics, one more can't hurt.

Although, there have been more reporters killed in Iraq then Vietnam, and the majority of those kidnapped have been beaten or killed, she comes out of the whole ordeal, pretty much
unscathed..

Time will tell what type of mental anguish she endured....at least she is free, and after her world tour she will finally be with her family.
 ~softEDGE~

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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 12:13:45 PM
cougar, at last, yes, she will be back with her family; talk about re-entry, culture shock.
re-entry to stateside conus has always been more stressful for me than arriving in even the thirld world countries.
 dallasguy99

Joined: 1/23/2006
Msg: 57
Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 3:44:04 PM
who said anything about opin, just for your benefit.
 JRandallR

Joined: 1/14/2006
Msg: 58
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 4:13:14 PM
Interesting turn of events today somewhat clarify the above questions.

Jill was threatened and feared for her life, so she cooperated with her captors and did as she was told, including the complimentary video tape where she said that she was treated well and not threatened. Turns out she was threatened to say that or she might have been killed. Can't blame her for cooperating with the insurgents. She never received the training a soldier does and she did the right thing by cooperating. She is now safe and her captors have been shown to be the cruel men they really are.

Glad she's home safe. I will be interested to see how her reporting will be after her experiences.

Welcome home, Jill.
 rainpanda

Joined: 10/2/2005
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 4:47:36 PM

Many view points?...there's always greed and that's a CONSTANT with most of us. You can have a billion people and yet they all have the same desires - only difference is by which means we go out to attain it.


lazy? LOL This way too broad a generalization, it seems to me. All people may have the same NEEDS to survival, food, water, shelter, and the means to obtain them, and I'm sure companionship and family could be seen as needs too. But The same desires? No. Greed is a "constant with most of us"? That statement started out as a generalization and then was reduced to a semi-generalization.

No way do people all have the same desires. At least not the people I know.

~ Panda
 little_mermaid

Joined: 10/16/2005
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Posted: 4/1/2006 7:38:58 PM
why serve one's self and confuse other posters by making two on one main topic/subject?
others point it out, and you state they can leave, plain mean, wrong and rude, with no apology, even. hard to believe you are that good natured as you show no regard for others that feel, evidently, as much as you do, on the topic of jill carroll

Your right the whole purpose of this was to thwart your thread. I was hijjaking it because I am a selfish biatch. How clever you are to have me so pegged. Gosh just when I thought I could pull one over on you and all those poor moderators..oh yes this evil biatch must confess..I really wanted to put those people to work..make them earn their keep. Hopefully they might even be in another country where they are treated like sweat shop workers then I can really zing it to them..

I stated you and lazyboy could go back to your thread where you felt the fire hydrant jill carroll was yours alone. That would be two people. I did apologize for calling you a shrew.. Rodent as you prefer to refer to yourself as was your choice..

Thanks for all the rule rundowns I will file it away..for when next I think to bring a light of love to a plenty of fish forum. Making sure I do not dare repeat a name already spoken...by another person. Duly filed.

Take it then. Do with it what you will. You might sound logical on certain topics. You might be older than I am but your not a good reader of people most especially this one.
 gossamer

Joined: 7/24/2005
Msg: 61
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 7:58:42 PM
Jill Carroll is a sell out to her country. She got herself kidnapped. Hmmm. They release her unharmed. Now she is saying she was scared so she had to say what they told her to say. She's not a true American. She's a coward. True American's I know would rather die than be disloyal. That's probably why they killed Tom Fox.
 anticon

Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 62
Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 8:40:58 PM

She's not a true American. She's a coward. True American's I know would rather die than be disloyal.

easy to write or say stuff like this. Have YOU ever been kidnapped?
How do you (or these "true americans") you know ever been taken prisoner?

It you have, you might know what you're saying.. if not... it's just hot air.
 hulahoney

Joined: 10/24/2005
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Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/1/2006 8:54:06 PM
welcome to da rest of da world... not da land of da free! american soil is pretty dammmmmmmmm nice!
 dallasguy99

Joined: 1/23/2006
Msg: 64
Jill Carroll
Posted: 4/3/2006 2:00:49 PM
I would not call her a coward. She roamed the country looking for stories, and was unprotected at her own request. I do not think any reporter would risk beheading for a story. We have not seen the last of Jill.
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