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 YX32

Joined: 1/18/2005
Msg: 51
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:40:42 PM
Bravo Cosmo...BRAVO!
 DragonRed

Joined: 1/19/2005
Msg: 52
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:42:20 PM
Ok you Guys he's had enough ...Well Done Thanks for dropping By....aahahahahahah..I'm Putting,,,, You all back In Your cage Now.......
 squeak365

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 53
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:42:44 PM
Late...I think he has been burned by NA women and decided he wants someone docile and quiet and submissive....he wants to be A MAN in his castle.....just hasn't figured out he is a man in his caslte regardless of the woman he is with...

Sad pathetic little man...

Squeak
 DragonRed

Joined: 1/19/2005
Msg: 54
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:47:07 PM
"Forum Regulators".................let's Ride ..........I see a thread were they are Picking on someone.....
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 55
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:48:38 PM
@ Squeak

Hmmmmmmm..... I was thinking it may be a smaller matter.
 squeak365

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 56
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:52:12 PM
I wanna be in the same cage as Late...he has chocolate...

Squeak
 cosmo's left the pond

Joined: 12/1/2004
Msg: 57
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:53:25 PM
please do not pick on the arabian knight I want to hear his response he responds to everyone else.Opinions are just that opinions his does not matter to any one person here but I would like him to reply at some point.But then I am probably too deluded to warrant a response from one so wise.
 squeak365

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 58
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/16/2005 11:57:24 PM
Ok Cosmo - I won't pick on him no more...but he best not cut me or sid down no more....hell hath no fury like a NA woman scorned...

Squeak
 sidheanwwyn

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 59
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 6:44:06 AM
i'll take the scorn, from an idiot like that anyway. would know i was doing something wrong if he liked me... this page is a lot better. men like late, cosmo, and dragonred are men actually worthy of respect, but we're missing a few of the good guys here. wonder where fid copya, dragonrider, and terry are? will have to direct my man da giggleparts to this thread, and the one about feminism. think he would have a field day with these jerks. has a real sense of chivalry, does that one. hasn't been posting much lately, as i'm afraid i take up a lot of his spare time, but i have to see what his take on this crap will be. what do you think, squeak? should i unleash the giggleparts on them? heh,heh, having most evil thoughts...

also wondering where georgieleopard is...
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 60
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 7:28:09 AM
What motivates one to objectify or marginalize another is to me, as valid a facet of the issue as the topic or stated conclusions therein. While the OP has expressed himself with a kind of eloquence, his statements beg further questions than the supposed value or comparitive worth of those of which he speaks.

It could be asked, does he hold a women's culture up for appraisal? A culture's women?

Or both, ......or as I happen to think, neither.

Either way, in the context of comparative worth? This discussion is such that it opens questions as to the motivation of he who loaded the question in the first place, being that it's in the forum that it is.

.......Words and deeds,

....it's not the value or worth of the question that gives me pause, .........it's this tidbit-


In business, we often determine how we are doing by looking at the results of our actions and benchmarking the competition. Then, we have a clear understanding of how we are performing in the marketplace.


Clear understanding?

............. of what value?

Marketshare? Monetary worth ............? How many burgers served?

If you carry this analogy through, it tells me nothing of a gender or a culture as it does the measure of he who "asked" the question..........

Benchmark indeed.

The flaw is assuming that one measurement denotes another finding in a seperate criteria, ..... confusing
coincidental relationships with causes.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc makes for a blurry benchmark, I'll defer to the yardstick- words and deeds.

Ummm hmmmm......

R.
 squeak365

Joined: 12/21/2004
Msg: 61
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 9:31:41 AM
Yes, Late-

That business analogy bugged me too...like finding love is a business to him...hey wait...there is a business of love he can pay for....and those women will do anything he asks...maybe that is what he is really looking for...a high priced prostitute/slave.

Oh well, ifn he wants a "female" from another country, I say more power to him once she gets over here...to Minnesota....

Squeak
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 62
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:06:52 AM
For some the ownership of a slave is a badge of success, that to others?

....is a mere stain.
 neverbeenlaid

Joined: 1/31/2005
Msg: 63
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:10:21 AM
'tude or no 'tude, american women are the most beautiful creatures on the planet.
 cosmo's left the pond

Joined: 12/1/2004
Msg: 64
North American women, I adore you.
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:22:14 AM

In business, we often determine how we are doing by looking at the results of our actions and benchmarking the competition. Then, we have a clear understanding of how we are performing in the marketplace.


Or perhaps it is simply that he is evaluating HIS competition on the forums by introducing a coflicting and vauge statement which really only asks how men think women measure up, but he invokes some rather emotion filled responses while he himself trys to remain vague . For me I could look for his angle of aproach but then I really don't care as it does nothing to affect my daily life other than give me something to read while I go about my day and enjoy my life.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 65
North American women, I adore you.
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:31:05 AM
By his stated frame of referrence, ....my emotional respose is still one coloured most by pity.


we have a clear understanding


With this? .....the question for the OP is moot, the rest is all icing to hide a cake of mostly, pathos.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 66
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:47:08 AM
Mostly makes me think of the type of mind that would percieve women so,.......

The only time a broad brush is of any use in this regard, is when it's a brush of love, understanding, respect and dignity.

To be other than this is too paint yourself blind.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 67
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 10:55:22 AM

Facts my man!! - and opinions of many many men!!!


Again the question for you too, is moot.

Such is the trap of the fallacy of distraction........


(while the rest of the world pays our way)


Oh well, there's a fantasy I do not share...........

R.
 cosmo's left the pond

Joined: 12/1/2004
Msg: 68
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 11:08:07 AM
Some of us choose to live in fantasy worlds!
(while the rest of the world pays our way)




Me I work

oops was that a fruedian slip of the keys ????
 ltlwhip

Joined: 10/29/2004
Msg: 69
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 11:09:16 AM
The biggest error...tyring to place a value on another human being....

One mans treasure, right? As a north american woman, I dont take offense to such remarks from someone who is looking for a totally different way of life than I lead...it is his choice and it is his right....his views and his words mean nothing to me.

And for those that think western women are high priced whatevers....lets think outside the box for a moment shall we? We are all human and have our own needs and desires...we all have our own vices, whether its control, sex, fashion, money, power, the need to be validated through the submission of another....we are all hustlers and whores, NO ONE IS EXEMPT!
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 70
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 11:25:20 AM
@ "whip"

to exempt no-one allows for a broad brush, esp to she/he that uses the same eyes for herself that are employed seeing others.

@ Nice

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Self employed, own a house and am a single parent to a child prodigy

You?
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 71
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 11:45:11 AM
Thought so.
 mysty

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 72
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 12:21:14 PM
HUH? What did I miss?

The original poster of this thread would have us believe that he is cultured, wise, and a deep thinker. Yet his sweeping generalizations of all NA women prove that he is not all that he thinks he is.
 neverbeenlaid

Joined: 1/31/2005
Msg: 73
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 12:32:29 PM
i think whoever made this post is a little frustrated from getting rejected by so many western women. yes... because of their vast freedoms and liberties, SOME north american women can be a little ****y. but i guarantee "eastern" women are ****y too. they just dont have the freedom to admit it.

and besedessssssssssss american chicks are the hottest anyways. sure you could import a mail-order-bride from Iran to be your slave or whatever, but do you really want a toothless, hairy woman touching you?
 DragonRed

Joined: 1/19/2005
Msg: 74
The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 12:48:13 PM
Ya ..We don't point guns at our Women over here, when they want to pick up a book and Read....
 schweetassdoll

Joined: 2/14/2005
Msg: 75
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The Value of Women. East vs West
Posted: 2/17/2005 8:26:34 PM
"Squeak speaks from an unimformed and biased platform. She has never been anywhere, her opinions have no basis of fact and she deviates from the subject matter. "

Actually Arabian, I've been to European countries amongst a few other countries and I find that the women there speak out just as much as the women in America. You just aren't hearing them.

While you try to come across informed, you aren't really. I have many friends overseas, both male and female and it seems the only countries you are referring to are places where there's currently war going on. You know, where the women are beaten into submission.

Squeak obviously watches the news more than you and seems to be somewhat more informed on things. Not off in a fantasy land or reading a Gor book.

However, good luck with your search in finding a woman who will cow-tow to your every whim. Namaste~
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