| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 3:12:28 AM | They don't make rain tires for NASCAR and all non-NASCAR people; get off here & go play ping pong (something on your level of intelligence). When I'm at the track, we're up & at the track by 7 am for driver meetings & by the time the race is over (practicing all day too) then loading the hauler back up, etc it's almost midnight)....& yes there are still fans there & not all of them are drunk.
Why are so many open wheel drivers coming to NASCAR; haven't you all heard the comments those drivers make about how much better the NASCAR sport and people are, etc.
F1 SUCKS & so do their fans | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 3:36:13 AM | You have to be kidding me.
F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, the amount of money and technology that goes into it is incredible.
Plus its appeal is world wide.
Nascar while ok ish is really only an American thing, and the technology isnt exactly state of the art.
Too many ovals, it can be boring.
The open wheel drivers who go to nascar are the ones who cant make it in F1.
or have finished their careers. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 6:08:12 AM | OOOOOOOH, I see it all so clearly now.
It isn't a sport unless you put the most money and technology into playing it
It isn't a sport unless it is played around the world
It isn't a sport if only one type of "field" is used
If you hit the pinnacle of your career in one class, you can't revamp in another....
Thanks for the claifications, son....now someone go alert Sam, Michael, Helio, and Mr Judd they need to stay home | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 6:59:23 AM | | Don't you know F1 is a feeder class to NASCAR , so dosen't that make NASCAR bigger than F1 there is more passing in 1 cup race than 10 years of F1 racing and when F1 drivers come to the states to race they have to start in ARCA and work thier way up to cup. NASCAR used to bring rain tires to the road coures for a few years and did use them to practice in the rain but never used them during a race. It would be to dangerous to run 43 3400 lbs stock cars around a track at full speed the drivers would not be albe to see through all the water being kicked up by 43 cars and not only 18 cars, and they don't have the ground affects that they do in F1 and the tires are narrower in Cup, Nascar also dosen't run traction control or ABS like in F1 . Don't you rember the F1 drivers pulling off the track at Indy just before the start of the race because of tire issues in NASCAR they have the BALL'S to run even when they know there is a tire issue that's when I stopped watching F1 it was a joke and still is. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 7:35:43 AM | Who asked you?
It isn't the topic of the thread
Go back to bed and take a nap, grouchy
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Well who asked you?
The topic is motorsport as sport is it not?
Maybe you need to hit the sack, manly
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 7:41:02 AM | Don't you know F1 is a feeder class to NASCAR , so dosen't that make NASCAR bigger than F1 there is more passing in 1 cup race than 10 years of F1 racing and when F1 drivers come to the states to race they have to start in ARCA and work thier way up to cup. NASCAR used to bring rain tires to the road coures for a few years and did use them to practice in the rain but never used them during a race. It would be to dangerous to run 43 3400 lbs stock cars around a track at full speed the drivers would not be albe to see through all the water being kicked up by 43 cars and not only 18 cars, and they don't have the ground affects that they do in F1 and the tires are narrower in Cup, Nascar also dosen't run traction control or ABS like in F1 . Don't you rember the F1 drivers pulling off the track at Indy just before the start of the race because of tire issues in NASCAR they have the BALL'S to run even when they know there is a tire issue that's when I stopped watching F1 it was a joke and still is.
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Why is F1 even being compared to Nascar?
totally different classes and types of racing
Only 2 F1 drivers have raced in nascar, at the end of their careers when the driving opportunities dried up.
So nascar drivers would drive on dangerous tires? real smart.
Michelin made a mistake and the tires were unsafe.
No traction control this year in F1. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/27/2008 8:07:59 AM | | A joke was the way NASCAR swallowed their flag last year at the Daytona 500 and let Kevin "The Cry Baby" Harvick win over Mark "The Man" Martin. That is why Nascar is a JOKE and is more about entertainment such as the WWE than a true sport where rules are objective instead of subjective. This made for TV crap has RUINED the SPORT of Nascar; it is not about RACING any more it is about trying to gain NIELSEN ratings. Unfortunately the last 3 years have seen a decrease in attendance at the track an on TV. They need to get back to their roots such as the Daytona 500 where Donny Allison and Cale Yarborough wrecked on the last lap and Bobby Allison stopped on the kewl down lap and they started fighting. That one race, that one incident has probably done more to promote Nascar than all this "Drive for Diversity" crap ever will. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 1/30/2008 5:54:55 PM |
The track banking and large radius 90 degree turns exposes the driver to significantly higher G forces for significantly longer periods of time than any F1 race condition, the drivers are at the very edge of passing
Actually Indy has the highest Gs followed by F1!!
I will admit though that Nasvar drivers are subject to the same Gs on the same side of their body for a longer time...Don't they have "side head rests" on their seats?
Race start is important in F1 but not as important as the pit strategy, Ross Brawn and Shumacher were masters at using pit strategy...
As for night races, if you want to call racing under huge lights night racing! Try Lemans or any other endurance race if you want to argue night racing... They really race at night! (or used to as Daytona is now well lit)
Minor mistakes in F1 can be fatal, you can't bump another car without body damage, touch wheels and you are airborne, get off the road and you can fall way back.
As for the comment on F1 drivers moving to NASCAR, just ask JPM if he had a F1 ride before going to NASCAR..No ride for JPM in F1...
As for race time, how much time does an average NASCAR race occur under yellow?
We could go into cheating, but we all know cheating is the norm in NASCAR....
Cheat in F1 and get fines of $150,000,000 just ask Mclaren..
I do not hate NASCAR, just don't understand the fascination... For me personaly it lacks the mechanical interest F1 generates, the technology in F1 is light years ahead of Nascar. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/24/2008 7:31:01 PM | | NASCAR is def not a sport... it's just a race.. These guys are not athletes! The reason it's not a sport is because these guys don't physically compete against anyone! They sit in a machine that competes for them! I had more fun racing my RC car when I was 12 than watching NASCAR any day! It's lame! | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/28/2008 4:30:32 PM | zacattack05- I used to be just like you and scoff at Nascar, and I grew up and still live in the heart of Nascar country in the south- near the Lowes Motor Speedway outside Charlotte NC, with the greatest names in Nascar all around. Teams, homes, shops, etc. Until last year when I went to a driver's shop after hours (his cousin let us in) and sat in one of the cars. Good Lord, I was almost claustrophobic! I am a small woman, 5' tall and 120 lbs, size 4-6. I could barely squeeze into that window and sit inside.Once inside, the space was really small. I was surrounded by metal, and felt like I was in a can. The heat generated is unbelievable I've heard, plus you have to wear all that gear. Just the thought of driving that thing at 150 plus miles an hour for hours on end gave me nausea! I've raced around since high school against boys and won, and that was in an old Mustang and I never topped 110 on the back country roads! That was fun, this seemed like too much work! The concentration required to keep that thing on the track at those speeds, watch the drivers around you, not being able to see a lot, listen to your crew give you instructions, passing and being passed for hours, keeping your foot to the floor and your hands steady- wow! The physical strain of sitting there on your butt, your arms and shoulders straining, your neck and head aching, your back getting stiff. You carry a bottle to pee in. You have to pull off quickly for pit stops and not hit your crew members, and wait with impatience while they gas it up, change your tires, whatever, so you can roar out of the pit road and get back in the game, again not hitting anyone or being hit! The adrenaline rush is incredible I'm sure. You have to have driving skills, mental skills, and the physical stamina to even get into the race and stay there requires so much more of you! Just this past week I sat and really watched a race on t.v. and threw out my old prejudices and really put myself in their shoes. WOW. I saw a major wreck that could have killed several people. I saw the drivers nerves being tested over the delays. I heard them speak over the dangers of racing on a wet track with tires not made for that.
Yeh, I have a new respect for those guys. Plus I've met some of the drivers out and about over the years, and without a doubt, they are the some of the nicest, most down to earth guys you'd ever want to meet. I've met their crew too, and likewise!
Try to be a bit more open minded. You might actually begin to like it, and now, yes I believe it is a sport. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 7:41:21 AM | For clarity,
NASCAR is a sport just like F1. Sure, you may prefer F1 or any other kind of open-wheel racing instead anything affiliated with stock car racing, you may despise NASCAR like the plague; but it is a sport.
If you think F1 and IRL are sports, then NASCAR is one... even if there are a lot of cookie cutter tracks on the schedule. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 11:15:12 AM | Many, Many post ago I tried to get this same point across. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean it isn't thus and so.
I think some sports are down-right stupid,but that doesn't make it any less a sport. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 4:33:24 PM | Pulse's legacy lives on. Maybe we should learn to speed read like Denny Hamlin
I know someone once mentioned the car does all the work~~not true! Without the driver and crew a car is useless. Just my humble opinion | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 4:38:28 PM | Yepper,big fella Especially when it involves more than left turns....which...
guess what....IT DOES..woooo hoooo. Who woulda thunk it
 Yes, in NASCAR it is more than left turns and 500 miles. Involves quite a bit of effort by many participants. But those who watch a race already know that | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 4:49:17 PM | :D yeah I know, Im too lazy to read the 14 page snooze fest, and figured the turn left joke may have been mentioned several times already, but needed to be sure.
NASCAR topics arent real unless they include the left turn joke.
Although this question seems to be perplexing a lot of people, I'd suggested looking the definition of sport in the dictionary (big book with lots of words)
Spoiler:
Yes it is. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 5:19:43 PM | | Then andysweden, look at my post above and the last few posts, since this thread is too long. It's not just left turns, I guess you were doing the requisite joke, weren't you? | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 5:20:09 PM | sport
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
emm driving a car doesnt sound like a physical activity at all. and i will take the odds on a oldschool truck driver that drives over 12 hours then a fat guy in a car tuned for his style.
sorry but take away the car and lets see how well they can transfer over to other sports.......
basketball, hockey, football, sorror, boxing, lacross, baseball, cricket, hell any sport has tallenst that take a lifetime to learn and most others could finish a 10 km race. not in any of those sports you think a fat red neck can run 10km?
its takes more tallent to make the training camp of any of those sports then drive a car that is tuned for you. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 5:36:45 PM |
Then andysweden, look at my post above and the last few posts, since this thread is too long. It's not just left turns, I guess you were doing the requisite joke, weren't you?
You got me :D
sport
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
emm driving a car doesnt sound like a physical activity at all.
I get
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
Lets ingnore the skill part and agree on the physical.
Do you know how much these weight these guys lose after one race, or the physical effort required to even turn a steering wheel at the speeds they are driving?
Other definitions include motor racing, Id argue that if you can allow one type of motor racing in, then you have to by default allow all the others in. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 2/29/2008 6:38:00 PM | I'm thinking either I've had too much beer to drink,or some of you can't spell and/or form a proper sentence.
Anyway, forget the definition from the D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y...yeah, some of us know very well what that rectangular object is :) Many sports fit under the def. heading
Personally, there are many reasons why I think it is a sport,most of which have been mention in this thread. Unfortunately, I've lost my beer and have more pressing concerns.....so...IT IS A SPORT...got that? I don't care how fast you drive down the highway at night,you can't do what they do without training or practice!! So there....
now, where did I put my beer? | |
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Posted: 2/29/2008 11:13:08 PM | ive never said that sitting in a car for 4 hours isnt tough on the body. but saying how much they lose in weight during a race making it a sport is like saying smoking crack is a sport cause its way harder on the body and you will lose more weight doing that.
i know that nascar isnt a sport the same way f-1, rally or anything else that you sit in a car inst a sport. poker also isnt a sport.
why does it really matter to you nascar fans anyways? you like it enjoy. tell me when its added to the long list of events in the olympics that are not sports then you might have a shot at telling me its a sport.
how can you forget the skill part thats one of the big parts of sports. even as easy as one may think it is to hit a fast ball i bet you you would find a ball player that could be ok at nascar before you find the nascar driver that can make the bigs......and i hate baseball. | |
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