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Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 3/9/2008 12:27:37 PM
No it is not a sport. A sport takes athletic ability. Driving a car in a circle is not a sport.
 frankster_p

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Posted: 3/9/2008 2:20:39 PM
The best drivers like Michael shumacher are athletes, thats why they are the best, and at the head of the field.
Why he used to train hours ever day.
 AllAmericanDreamGirl

Joined: 3/5/2008
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Posted: 3/10/2008 6:35:30 PM
I think Nascar is great I am a fan of Tony Stewart... I know I know Mr Badboy. You want to truely know which racing is a sport is Nhra Drag Racing. Those men and women risk their own lives going 300 mph. That is a true sport
 bullitt428

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Posted: 3/16/2008 1:13:15 AM
Racing cars is a true blood sport.

BULLITT
 lakeman4

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Posted: 3/16/2008 5:46:01 PM
Blood sport...lol. You might say so after those guys had to fight those bad tires all day at Vegas !!! The wall was really inviing them for dinner!!
Bristol has been tamed....what a shame. That track used to be the blood ring but now after changing the banking it has turned the Tiger into a kitty. Racing is still a sport with all the competition involved and everyone striving to get to that finish line first. That makes it a sport!!
 bullitt428

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Posted: 3/17/2008 8:11:41 PM
Watch this and tell me autoracing is not a true blood sport.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSIz-KXjvE

BULLITT
 Nealinho

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Posted: 3/19/2008 9:47:09 AM
indeed, NASCAR is just plain boring to me, its a circle for goodness sakes! It would be more entertaining if there were more turns, like Formula One. F1 is a real sport worth watching, NASCAR should really take notes.
 Krazed Kourse

Joined: 1/20/2008
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Posted: 3/21/2008 4:58:21 PM
Anyone not considering NASCAR a sport or thinking it shouldn't be, obviously haven't driven a high powered car in a lenghty race, before.
 oysterloaf

Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 3/22/2008 6:00:15 AM
I used to live in a small southern town that had a Nascar track. I only went once. Can't say it was right for me.

Still, I have nothing but respect for anyone who can go for that length of time, at those speeds, following each other just inches apart, thinking up and executing a strategy that will work for them, and always on the lookout to avoid some impending disaster.

all the while having a crew that knows it's business.

Do I think this is a sport?-Yes

Do I think the driver is an athlete?-Yes
 Boomstrike

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Posted: 3/22/2008 10:55:37 AM
Racing cars is a true blood sport.

It's much better now than the death sentence F1 driving used to be. There has not been a death in F1 since Ayrton Senna died in 1994. In the period up to the mid seventies, an F1 driver had a 66% chance of death if he drove for 5 years. Deaths and injuries were due to many factors including car safety, track safety, crash assistance facilities, crew and training, race rules, race management, etc. Drivers were shown very little regard for their lives, they were often seen as disposables who knew and accepted the risks they were taking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_fatal_accidents
One of the best examples of this attitude is during Roger Williamson's tragic death in Holland 1973. Williamson's car suffered a tire problem which threw him into the barrier and flipped the car upside down. As it skidded across the track to the opposite barrier it caught on fire, which was very common in crashes of the era. One of the other drivers, David Purley, stopped his car to offer assistance as Williamson screamed for help, helplessly trapped in his burning car. The poorly equipped and trained fire marshalls arrived with a single fire extinguisher which was not nearly adequate to extinguish the fire, and would not help to push the car upright, partially because they were not wearing any fire suits. The men at the scene watched as Williamson burned to death for several minutes before a fire truck arrived, the long delay partly due to the race having never been stopped. After the fire was put out, a blanket was thrown over the wreck with the dead driver still in the car, as the race continued on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho5-6taeWRQ
 bullitt428

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Posted: 3/22/2008 7:13:14 PM
Your right Boom sense Senna's death things have changed for the better in F1. Still 18 months after Senna's death Mika Hakkinen's accident at Adelaide came close to taking this young mans life. And there have been some others as well. As safe as they try to make auto racing death will always be there. And that is a part of racing and that makes auto racing a true blood sport.

BULLITT
 Race Girl

Joined: 1/11/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2008 8:10:20 PM
To the guy discussing "females" shouldn't compete with me, etc....Gabi DiCarlo ran her 1st full ARCA season last year with goin to over 18 tracks that she's never driven on & finished 11th in the Series. She tested Friday at Rockingham running a 26.03 10th fastest.

Melanie Troxel; Top Fuel Dragster (2007) moved to Top Fuel Dragster-some women have just as big of balls as the men & CAN compete with the men..Shirley Muldowney.

NASCAR is very demanding physically on their bodies & if you TRULY never have ran a long race in the heat then don't talk about something you don't have a flipping clue about. I'm not a driver but I've been around NHRA teams/drivers since I was 17 yrs old & around NASCAR teams/drivers for the last 5 years & know what they have to do.

NFL Football players SUCK-overpaid to spend on their drug & whore habits
 JonathanMMA

Joined: 3/10/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2008 9:25:36 PM
NFL Football players SUCK-overpaid to spend on their drug & whore habits

Nice generalization there....didn't you just say "don't talk about something you don't have a flipping clue about"? Know for a fact that all NFL players hare drug and whore habits huh? And drivers don't have secrets? Okay, sugar. :)


In response to the question, no, I don't consider NASCAR a sport...the same way I don't consider bowling, poker, or pool a sport. Even though they get coverage on ESPN, I'd still only consider them TALENTS. I think a sport requires athletic ability....and let's be fair...you don't need much athletic ability to sit behind the wheel of a car and turn left. Maybe if they made the drivers PUSH their cars a few hundred miles around the track, then we might have a sport!
 atlantaman123

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Posted: 3/22/2008 10:50:04 PM
Race girl,

Your post proves why it is not a sport..

Name a real professional sport in which a woman competes with men at all, much less does well, lol. And in her first year...

Nascar demanding on the bodies? So the Nascar drivers are in excellent physical condition?

Ok, I am going to go work out..The gym? No... Ill drive around with my windows closed and the air off for a while..

 Race Girl

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Posted: 3/23/2008 9:02:41 AM
You both are obviously uneducated losers & your post proves that. They do go to the gym & obviously by both of your guys pictures you both could use a good workout, make over & a life.

I'm go to over 1/2 the races & know what goes on & the demands & physical requirements they have & I will admit football & baseball players have to be in shape as well because neither a driver hitting a wall running 200 mph is any easier than a football player getting smacked-you can not be in shape & survive either one.
 JonathanMMA

Joined: 3/10/2008
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Posted: 3/23/2008 11:25:19 AM

You both are obviously uneducated losers & your post proves that. They do go to the gym & obviously by both of your guys pictures you both could use a good workout, make over & a life.

I'm go to over 1/2 the races & know what goes on & the demands & physical requirements they have & I will admit football & baseball players have to be in shape as well because neither a driver hitting a wall running 200 mph is any easier than a football player getting smacked-you can not be in shape & survive either one.


So you're going to be a **** and resort to petty personal attacks because someone DISAGREES with you? That reeks of maturity right there.
I for one wouldn't go making fun of people until you took a good hard look in the mirror, sweetheart...all those years of race fumes have started to make that face of yours look like a worn out catcher's mitt. At 43, you think you would have grown up enough and found some tobacco chewing, toothless moron at the track to knock you up and give you about 5 NASCAR lovin' kids.

Now, with MY insults over, I'll let you know. I spend 4-6 days a week, 2-3 hours a day in the gym training for a REAL sport...mixed martial arts. I have a 4-0 record, and am making my pro debut this summer.

As far as the "uneducated" remark...I spent 2 years working through the hardest school the military has to offer, finished first in it, as a matter of fact. Now I'm in paramedic school...going to work my way through that and then go to medical school afterwards...seems like both of your points have been shot to hell, huh?
 Race Girl

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Posted: 3/23/2008 1:22:56 PM
Funny thing you're the only one that thinks that; I'm not getting that opinion from others but obviously you haven't looked in the mirror-you're so f...king ugly you can make a freight train back up & take a dirt road.

I do the gym 4 days a week myself, been an EMT since 1984; so no nothing I've said has been shot to hell....so go F..k yourself because that's the only thing you're going to get on here with that mug shot (prison picture)?
 JonathanMMA

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Posted: 3/23/2008 1:41:20 PM
What exactly do you have against someone having an opinion different than your own?

You think that lashing out against everyone when they say something you don't agree with is going to help you make a point? You're a joke, and probably a very sad, lonely woman....I actually feel bad for you. All this because I said I don't think NASCAR is a sport? I don't actually remember insulting it, either, which is the **** of the matter...you're just too damned insecure to have an intelligent discussion.
 voxy

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Posted: 3/23/2008 2:18:04 PM
I have played football,baseball and raced for 15 years and racing was much harder to do and harder on the body than football or baseball and racing was alot more fun more than only 1 team to beat so if racing isn't a sport what is. Never been so drained in my life as I was after a 35 lap race with the championship on the line started 24th and had damage to the left front a-arm early on ran down the leaders with a car that wanted to do donuts to the left had to turn right the whole race it was harder to get the car to run the straitaways than the turns ,could not stand after the race just got out of that car and sat on the track till they brought the trophy to me it felt like it was 100lbs told my brother to drive the car to tech , he couldnt drive the car at all had to have car towed by the wrecker he was amassed with what I had done with that car with a car he couldn't drive at all never felt that drain after playing any other sport in my life not even close at all . OH yea forgot to say I also distroyed my knee and burnt both feet in that race. There is a lot more that just turning left in a car to racing .
 Race Girl

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Posted: 3/23/2008 3:52:12 PM
Hey Voxy !! MagE sent me her email; she came off here. I'm tryin to get her to come down & meet you & I for a race either in Atlanta or Lowes!!

Hope you had a nice Easter; I'm glad they didn't race today so that families could be together. A lot of sadness in NASCAR; a Regional Director, her son was killed (he was in the Marines) & the funeral was last Sunday (wow-it was beautiful Military funeral) then a lady that is CEO of one of our sponsors is 38 yrs old w/2 small boys found out she has less than a year to live (cancer stage 4). We're running a pink ribbon on 2 of the cars that they sponsor.

I hope all is well with you & let me know if you're going to NHRA So. Nat'ls.

Take Care,
 Boomstrike

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Posted: 3/23/2008 5:16:04 PM
As safe as they try to make auto racing death will always be there. And that is a part of racing and that makes auto racing a true blood sport.

Yes, death will aways be part of racing, boxing and even football. There's no excuse for what happened to Roger Williamson, his death was completely unnecessary. The safety standards started to improve in meaningful ways after that incident, Jackie Stewart was a leader in the F1 safety movement.
Look at Kubica's crash in the Montreal grand prix last year. His car disintegrated when he hit the barrier at an estimated 185 mph at 75 degrees. His injuries were a light concussion and a sprained ankle. Despite a well designed car and track, he did have some luck on his side that day though. Note the lack of fire, the race was suspended, and proper help was on the scene very quickly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYy97vGVUlg
 Race Girl

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Posted: 3/23/2008 5:46:56 PM
I don't know much about football and the names of players but I think it was last year when that guy got hit so hard it broke his neck & they thought would never walk again & this year he showed up at some special team event or something...WALKING !!

Modern medicine is amazing; if that had happened just 10 years ago the outcome probably wouldn't have been this good.

The guy Johnathan (?) on here that is going through EMT school then on to Medical School knows too about that "golden hour" that makes a difference in life or death & he's picked an awesome profession to go into.

I almost went into the Air Force as a medic but "chickened" out; I admire anyone in the armed forces then I did do some Safety Safari work for NHRA and one season in NASCAR as an EMT.

Dale, Jr got lucky when he had that crash/fire in the Corvette.

My best friend tells me horror stories about players getting hurt in high school/rec football.

Monday is sneaking up on us & hopefully we'll have a good race next weekend.
 bullitt428

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Posted: 3/24/2008 12:48:44 AM
There's no excuse for what happened to Roger Williamson, his death was completely unnecessary.


I remember watching this race and Rogers Williamson's crash. And I cryed (and still do) as I watched replays of the crash. As I did when I found out that Jimmy Clark had crashed and died he was my hero way back then. For me he was the first of long list of many others that would died racing cars not just in F1 but all types of Autoracing . Death will always be a big part of this true blood sport. When I was racing crashing the car didn't scare me as much as fire did. Fire scared me alot. But knowing that it could happen to me. To burn, to get badly hurt or even to die. My passion or love of racing a race car could not stop me. For me and any other driver it's a way of life............. racing is life............ to race cars is in are blood.

I also watched Kubica's crash and held my breath and shed a tear hoping that we would not lose another promising race car driver. A crash that could have very well taken this young mans life. And there was someone with him on that day. He is a fine example of the safety that goes into these race cars today. Even that crash that Kubica had it could not stop him as he is still racing to this day........... It's in his blood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadyqK2kvwc&feature=related........ RIP all of them.

BULLITT
 brendakerns

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Posted: 3/24/2008 10:38:31 AM
I agree. I do not think Nascar should be considered a sport. A sport, in my opinion should take athletic ability not just talent.
 Race Girl

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Posted: 3/24/2008 3:17:52 PM
Yeah the fire would be scary because sometimes you can't see a fuel fire. My friend Ed "Tuna" works for the Monster Top Fuel Funny Car team & when Kenny Bernstein & John Force crashed last year he called me the next morning & said "it's worse than they're letting on to the fans on tv" -he said the burns were very bad.

As an EMT & seeing burn victims before; it's sad & very painful-I couldn't imagine going through it.

I guess everyones opinion about what sports is considered a real sport or not is like trying to get everyone to agree on the same religion or politics (it's just not going to happen) but I'm seriously thinking about writing in my 2 labs for President (free Milkbones for everyone)~

Have a nice work week everyone !1
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