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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 2/26/2008 2:46:08 AM | this is wat mercury can do look it up it should not be put in vaccines or are the victims in minamataa not real either read and ive put in brackets the symtoms sounds very like autism dont you think .(neurological disorder together with intellectual impairment. These afflictions hinder every aspect of their daily lives, including work and social relations.) my son lost all social skills . minamata showed us how dangrous mercury is and it passes through generations mother to baby this came from mercury from the sea but they they injected it in our race Who are the victims of Minamata disease?
It is necessary to have a thorough understanding of the victims of Minamata disease before proceeding to an analysis of the disaster response. Victims can be divided into two groups - primary and secondary. The primary victims suffered physical disabilities and impair meet, whereas the secondary victims experienced a variety of other losses (e.g. economic, social, psychological).
As of 31 March 1993, the official government tally of confirmed victims was 2,255 (both living and dead) with 2,376 others who are still seeking to be classified as victims.3 The number of persons refused certification has climbed to 12,503. The actual total of victims is undoubtedly larger than the official figures because an unknown number of people died from the disease without certification or chose not to apply for certification. Some physicians estimate that at least half of the 200,000 people who lived along the coast of the Shiranui Sea in the late 1950s were affected by some form of mercury poisoning.
Patients who died when the disease entered an acute stage suffered incomparable misery. Others who survived carry severe physical and psychological scars. Those with minor symptoms such as ataxia and inertia often also exhibit signs of ( A large number of children acquired the disease before birth via transfer across the placenta from the mother.
Sadly, there is no effective means of medication for Minamata disease. Above all, there is no possibility of recovery for nerve cells that are destroyed by methyl mercury. Practically no research on probable means of treatment is under way. The primary victims of Minamata disease could not seek work and were forced to bear heavy medical and nursing costs. Usually, these costs were transferred to the victims' families because mutual aid among family members is traditional in this community. As a result, many poor families have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel just to make ends meet. By the end of 1959, only 43 per cent of households with Minamata disease patients were receiving any sort of public assistance. Entire households were faced with collapse. To make matters worse, the dismal symptoms of Minamata disease were unprecedented and therefore particularly threatening. This socalled "strange disease" was feared by residents of the fishing hamlets, who turned against the afflicted because they were thought to be carriers of contagion. The government's practice of disinfecting and isolating patients in hospitals provided grounds for these fears. Thus, patients lost the support of a normally friendly and cooperative community. They were deprived of mutual aid and their families were ostracized by neighbours.
When the cause of Minamata disease was finally identified, people who lived near, or fished in, the contaminated area came under even greater pressure from outsiders. The fact that fish were the medium by which the disease was spread, crippled the fisheries. Not only did regional catches decline because of pollution but sales of locally caught fish were entirely prohibited. As a result, fishermen became obsessed by the possibility that the disease might spread and did what they could to shut the disease out of their lives. Fishing cooperatives methodically plotted to conceal new cases of poisoning. Families with disease-afflicted persons became more and more alienated and isolated.
One fact was clear to all: the natural environment was being degraded. Evidence of marine pollution was clear before humans went down with Minamata disease. Fisheries were already in trouble. Some local fishermen tried to combat declining catches by turning to new fishing techniques and new locations, but they met with no success because pollution was widespread. As a result, many sold their boats and sought employment on shore. A great number of others moved away from the area. The widespread migration of victims accounts for the fact that many lawsuits were brought against Chisso, the prefecture of Kumamoto, and the national government by persons who lived in Osaka, Tokyo, Kyoto, Fukuoka, and elsewhere.
Minamata disease is typical of modern industrial pollution in so far as it manifests a wide geographic spread of impacts and casualties. Furthermore, like other industrial pollution disasters, most of the effects are concentrated in lower socio-economic groups such as labourers from primary industries - in this case fishermen and their families. But the natural environment also suffers heavily, and with it a variety of other groups who have recreation and tourism interests. Public beaches are particularly impaired, especially those that provide tidewater fishing, crabbing, and opportunities for leisure strolls. In other words, Minamata disease affects virtually every element of the local community. Most of these issues remain to be resolved before the problems of recovery can be said to have been properly addressed.
Official recognition of Minamata disease and the initial response
The first signs that something was amiss in the seas near Minamata appeared around 1949. Dead fish floated on top of the bay and shellfish emitted a noxious odour when opened. Soon, catches began to decline. By 1953, local residents reported that cats "danced" in circles before collapsing into the bay; seabirds and crows were also observed spiralling unexpectedly into the sea. Shortly thereafter, the first cases of human sickness were noted.
The immediate response of the local government and residents was vigorous and uncontroversial. A research committee was organized by the city of Minamata. Public health officials and the local medical association moved quickly to discover the cause of the disease and to search for preventive measures as well as appropriate treatments for the victims. Within two or three months it was clear that the worst-affected areas were fishing hamlets along the shores of the bay. The symptoms of an apparently contagious disease were also identified. Emergency actions were quickly mounted. Patients were admitted to a hospital isolation ward. Some experts suggested that they might be suffering from encephalitis japonica - sleeping sickness. Others thought that a possibly contagious disease was involved, so the government repeatedly disinfected places associated with large numbers of cases.
A change in the speed and effectiveness of responses came about after heavy metal poisoning of fish began to be suspected as the chief culprit. When industrial effluents from Chisso came under suspicion, there was a marked slackening of efforts to identify the disease and prevent its worsening. The entire matter was put into the hands of prefectural and national governments rather than local groups. In the process, local citizens lost the ability to bring about directly a speedy resolution of the problem. Some of the blame for this unproductive turn of events must be shared by the residents of Minamata, but it is clear that the main contributors to disaster were a combination of business practices that gave priority to production and ignored environmental pollution, and the principle of governmental promotion of industries at any cost - including dangerous pollution.
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/6/2008 6:19:35 AM | FIRST AUTISM-VACCINE LINK: HOW HANNAH MADE HISTORY one family have justice at last
By Alison Young
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/06/08
In a move autism family advocates call unprecedented, federal health officials have concluded that childhood vaccines contributed to symptoms of the disorder in a 9-year-old Georgia girl.
While government officials continue to maintain that vaccines don't cause autism, advocates say the recent settlement of the girl's injury case in a secretive federal vaccine court shows otherwise.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has concluded the family of Hannah Poling of Athens is entitled to compensation from a federal vaccine injury fund, according to the text of a court document in the case. The amount of the family's award is still being determined.
The language in the document does not establish a clear-cut vaccine-autism link. But it does say the government concluded that vaccines aggravated a rare underlying metabolic condition that resulted in a brain disorder "with features of autism spectrum disorder."
In an interview Wednesday with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Hannah's parents, Jon and Terry Poling, said the government's concession in the case will help pay for the numerous therapists and other medical experts their autistic child needs —- now and for the rest of her life.
"At least we have some commitment from the government to take care of Hannah when we're gone," said Dr. Jon Poling, a neurologist.
But the case also thrusts the family into a national spotlight in the controversial public debate over whether vaccines have played some role in the growing number of U.S. children diagnosed with autism. Of particular concern to some families is the mercury-based preservative thimerosal, not used in child vaccines (except for some flu shots) since 2001.
Hannah's case was one of three vaccine-court test cases alleging that thimerosal caused the children's autism. The other cases go to trial in May.
Suspicion of vaccines is fueled in part by vocal advocates —- including radio shock jock Don Imus and actress Jenny McCarthy —- speaking out on radio and TV shows such as "Oprah" and "Larry King Live."
Even Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain said on the campaign trail that "there's strong evidence" that a preservative in vaccines is fueling the dramatic rise in autism cases across the country.
As many as 1 in 150 children in some communities have autism disorders, says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"We need to recognize this is a national crisis," Jon Poling said.
Autism is a lifelong neurological disorder that causes problems with communication and the ability to have normal social interactions. Autism and related autism spectrum disorders cover a range of symptoms that can vary from mild to severe. The cause is unknown, but scientists believe genes may play a role.
Pediatricians and public health officials worry that this case may cause fear among some parents and prompt them to refuse to vaccinate their children, and put them in real danger from measles, whooping cough and other diseases.
"The risks of diseases are real risks," said Dr. Melinda Wharton, deputy director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. Numerous large studies don't support a relationship between vaccines and autism, according to the CDC and the Institutes of Medicine.
The Georgia girl's case —- and its implications in the vaccine-autism debate —- raise more questions than it answers, experts say.
Some medical experts say it's difficult to fully assess the case because the federal vaccine-court documents are sealed from public view.
"It raised a lot of questions for us," said Dr. David Tayloe Jr., president-elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics. The national medical group's leadership has been seeking more information about Hannah's vaccine-court case since last week when a sealed vaccine-court document detailing the government's settlement was posted on the Internet by an autism book author, then circulated widely among autism groups.
The pediatrics association has been trying to get access to official documents in the case so medical experts can delve into the science, assess whether there are implications for other children and answer questions from doctors and families.
"Our responsibility is to make sure the public is given good information and make sure the hype doesn't distract from public health," Tayloe said. "I still would not think that we're going to have evidence showing a role of vaccines actually causing autism."
According to the leaked document posted online, the government's Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation concluded that five shots Hannah received in July 2000, when she was 19 months old, "significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder" and resulted in a brain disorder "with features of autism spectrum disorder."
Sallie Bernard, executive director of the national autism advocacy group SafeMinds, called the case "unprecedented" in that a link between vaccines and autism is being made public. Federal health officials "have insisted there is no link at all between vaccines and vaccine components and autism. And apparently that is not true," she said.
The case also is significant because other autistic children have mitochondrial disorders, Bernard said. "The question is: What is the proportion?"
Robert Krakow, a New York attorney representing other autistic children in vaccine court, said the significance of the case is "potentially explosive." He said he has several clients with similar histories.
Hannah requires one-on-one care at all times, said her mother, Terry Poling, a nurse and lawyer. The Polings described how Hannah was a normal, verbal toddler until she received several vaccines during a well-baby visit. Within 48 hours of the shots, she developed a high fever and inconsolable crying and refused to walk. She stopped sleeping through the night. At 3 months of age, she began showing signs of autism, including spinning and staring at lights and fans. For a while, she lost her ability to speak.
When Hannah was 6 months old, as the family came to grips with the likelihood that she was autistic, they turned to leading experts in neurology. "I had to know. My daughter didn't just suddenly develop autism for no reason," Terry Poling said.
Hannah's father co-authored an article about her case, which was published in the Journal of Child Neurology in 2006.
Hannah, who has two older brothers, continues to have mild to moderate symptoms of autism. The family says early and ongoing intensive therapy has been critical for her.
"The biggest question right now for the public is: How unique is Hannah's case?" said Jon Poling. Poling said he suspects there are other children like Hannah.
Cliff Shoemaker, the Polings' attorney, said the family has filed a petition with the vaccine court to unseal all of Hannah's records and allow both the family and the government to fully discuss the case.
Despite this, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, which reprersents the government in court cases, would not grant interviews or explain to the AJC why it isn't releasing the records. HHS officials, who administer the vaccine compensation fund, also declined to be interviewed, citing the court's confidentiality requirements.
Shoemaker said the government's November concession in the case is public, but the government's reasons aren't. "I'm not aware of any other conceded autism cases," he said.
Congress created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program in 1988 after widespread lawsuits against manufacturers and health-care providers stemming from reports of side-effects of a version of the diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine used in the 1980s.
With companies getting out of the vaccine business for liability reasons, Congress established the program and a trust fund to serve as a no-fault alternative for resolving certain vaccine injury claims.
The average injury compensation to an individual in vaccine court has been about $1 million. In fiscal year 2007, more than $91 million was awarded to people harmed by vaccines.
Q&A
What does the case mean for the safety of vaccines? Medical experts said parents should continue vaccinating their children because it protects them from diseases known to be deadly. If they're concerned, they should talk with their pediatrician.
Q: What is autism?
A: Autism spectrum disorders are a range of developmental disabilities —- from mild to severe —- characterized by communication problems, an inability to have normal social interactions and unusual behaviors.
Q: What causes autism?
A: Scientists don't know but are exploring what role genetics may play, as well as possible environmental factors.
Q: Why is this Georgia child's case drawing so much attention?
A: A leaked federal vaccine court document, posted on the Internet and widely circulated among advocates, shows the government has agreed to compensate her. Federal health officials have conceded that the five shots she received in July 2000 "significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder," which manifested as a brain disease with features of autism. Autism family advocates say this shows the government is conceding —- after years of blanket denials —- that vaccines play a role in at least some autism cases.
Q: What do federal health officials say about the case?
A: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services branch that administers the vaccine injury program says the government "continues to maintain the position that vaccines do not cause autism and has never concluded in any case that autism was caused by vaccination."
Q: What are mitochondrial disorders?
A: Mitochondria are tiny rod-like structures that serve as the energy-making machines inside cells. When mitochondria don't work properly, they produce less energy and can cause various body systems to fail.
Q: What causes the disorders?
A: For the most part, genes. Sometimes a person's mitochondria —- if their genes make them susceptible —- can be affected by environmental factors such as medications. The Georgia girl's family suspects her mitochondria were damaged by a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines she received. Tests didn't find a genetical link in her case, the family said.
Q: What's the relationship between mitochondrial disorders and autism?
A: While some children with mitochondrial disorders have autistic symptoms, the vast majority do not, said Dr. Bruce Cohen, a pediatric neurologist at the Cleveland Clinic and past-president of the Mitochondrial Medicine Society. Most autistic children do not have mitochondrial disease, he said.
Q: How can a mitochondrial disorder be aggravated by vaccinations?
A: Vaccination —- like illnesses, starvation, extreme heat or any other stress on the body —- may unmask a mitochondrial disorder, experts said. When a vaccine is injected, it causes the body to mount an immune response. This requires increased energy the body may not have if there is an underlying mitochondrial disorder. Still, Cohen said he recommends vaccination, even for most patients with diagnosed mitochondrial disorders. That's because of the greater danger posed by vaccine-preventable diseases.
Q: How common is this?
A: According to the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation, at least one in every 4,000 children born in the U.S. each year will develop a mitochondrial disease by age 10. Many children are misdiagnosed with such things as atypical cerebral palsy, seizure disorders and other diseases. Adults also can be diagnosed with adult-onset mitochondrial disease.
ELIZABETH LANDT / Staff
MITOCHONDRIAL DISORDERS
Energy for our bodies is created within our cells. This massive job is handled by the mitochondria. When these tiny guys can't do their job, our whole body suffers.
Normal mitochondrion
1. Mitochondria are tiny power plants inside human cells that convert food into energy.
2. If the mitochondria are not working properly, the cell does not get the energy it needs to do its work within the body.
Diagram includes a cell containing normal and dysfunctional mitochondrion; the inside of a normal mitochondrian; its Energy-producing particles; DNA.
Organ systems:
3. The brain, heart and lungs require the most energy to function properly. If they don't have adequate energy, these organs begin to fail. Symptoms vary depending on the part of the body involved.
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Possible symptoms
Mitochondrial disorders are rare. Not everyone who has these symptoms has dysfunctional mitochondria.
Brain: Developmental delays, seizures, autistic features, migraines, atypical cerebral palsy
Eyes and ears: Visual or hearing loss, degeneration of retina cells
Heart: Heart blocks, Cardiomyopathy
Muscles: Weakness, cramping, gastrointestinal problems, muscle pain
Liver: Low blood sugar, liver failure
Kidneys: Failure to excrete acid or wasting
Pancreas and other glands: Diabetes and inability to make digestive enzymes, low calcium
Nerves: Weakness (may be intermittent), fainting, Chronic nerve pain
Systemic: Failure to gain weight, fatigue, unexplained vomiting, short stature, respiratory problems
Mitochondrian disorders generally involve three or more organ systems and in some cases produces symptoms similar to autism.
Sources: United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation
Find this article at:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/03/06/autism0306b.html
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/6/2008 6:29:54 AM | The magazine Skeptical Inquirer has several very good articles disputing the findings about vaccines causing autism.
I would recommend that people looking for SERIOUS information, and not hyperbole or conjecture, research those articles. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2008 9:03:18 PM | With all due respect....I can't help but think that the NAA....is barking up the wrong tree.....putting all it's eggs in the ..."mercury...in vaccines basket".....Since Autism is a realitively new problem and is effecting so many.....why would mercury......which has been used for so long be the culprit?????....I tend to think the problem lies within our food source........
Did you know that rendered animals.....ie:....the euthanised dogs and cats from your Vets office.... road kill.... wildlife.... anything that is taken to this countries pounds...or "animal control" facilities...is shipped out to rendering plants where it is ..... thrown into a big vat....boiled down at a high temperature into.......Two.... saleable biproducts......a protein powder.......and a fat product......both of which are sold as cheap sources of protein and fat additives.....for chicken...beef....and pork food..... As well as shipped overseas to asian countries....were it is used in food for shrimp and fish farms.....Have you noticed how big and juicy our chicken...beef...and shrimp are ????....well it takes protein to make muscle....My question is..."who's minding the the pot "....This practice is completely LEGAL....
Now ...the problem with this is.....These rendered pets....have been euthanized.....(a major overdose of barbituates)...they have also ingested......chemo-therapy drugs....heart drugs...antibiotics.....and any other drug you can think of ....for any ailment....as well as suffered from ...cancers....viruses....bacterias....genetic disorders....autoimmune disorders...the list goes on....
And IT IS ALL going back into our food source.......
And ....YES ... this has been brought to the attention of our government officials ...they don't care it's not illegal....as well as the news media...."it's too gross to report." So we all...... including our children....continue to ingest this.............
I do believe the ...UK....within the last couple of years....has banned the use of rendered animals being put back into the food chain.....because of... MAD COW disease........
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/8/2008 5:25:31 AM | | I must admit I don't know much about the subject nor have I read all the posts, but I thought autism was a developmental disorder that in most cases occurred at birth (though not identified until later), so not sure why vaccines are getting the blame. Also puzzling is that boys outnumber girls 4 to 1... why would vaccines affect one sex and not the other....real mystery. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 5:37:07 AM | With this much controversy over vaccinations, why in the world would anyone get one.
Just because its a vaccine does not mean its safe, science has made many mistakes in the past and we got kids born with no arms, legs during the 50s when vaccinations first came out I think it was thalidomides poisoning in the vaccine. They thought that safe too. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 5:56:11 AM | I think there are a few things that need to be looked at here.
For one, thimerosol is no longer used in vaccines given to children, and has not been since 1996, while reported autism cases have continued to increase since then.
Secondly, correlation does not imply causation, as the above mentioned point implies. While there may be an increased reporting of autism, the characteristics defining the term autism have been continually broadened since the 1970s, so it follows that reported cases would increase.
Even this most recent case in which an "autistic" child's parents were reimbursed by the government does not even come anywhere close to the government implying that autism was caused by mercury in vaccines, since the parents don't even claim she has autism. What they are being reimbursed for is the mitochondrial deficiency within her cells that were aggravated by the vaccines she was given, NOT by any mercury that may or may not have been in them, but by the body's immunological response.
Denying your children appropriate immunity to dangerous and life-threatening diseases is not in any way safe. Keep the herd immunity up and vaccinate your kids. They'll thank you when they're older. I would not be surprised if, come 5-10 years time when one of the unvaccinated children finds out why they got mumps or measles when they were younger that they sue their parents for their shoddy parenting. I wonder where the courts would stand if that were to happen? I certainly know where the science of the issue would stand. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 7:03:56 AM | --but by the body's immunological response--
So are you saying that every human being has the exact immunological response.
Do they test children to see if the vaccine is safe for them or do they have a system to understand whose biological function are suitable. Funny thing is some families are prevalent to Cancer, diabetes, heart disease etc. You know where I am going. So instead of blaming the parents because they feel the immunization is dangerous why not test the children for what we already know. Well what little we know.
EG. My buddy I worked with for 5 yrs, his wife caught the flu and it was a heavy one, after she recovered the doctor told her to get a flu shot every yr to prevent such a serious illness. That was 7yrs ago, now she chronic arthritic, diabetic and has problems with short term memory, her grand child from her daughter had a baby, normal on all accounts, got the vaccination, now the kid is autistic. It could be in there biological Immunities that certain people cannot take the vaccine. Look at the facts that we use vaccination in a General sense, we are not specific enough. I have never had a vaccine since I was in school for polio vaccines, but a polio vaccine is made up of Dead Polio cells that the immune system recognized and create an immunity, that far from what we do today.
--I certainly know where the science of the issue would stand.--
I don't think any of us really know, including the scientist. If they did, there would be no problem and those doctors, which are many, would not be suggesting to the parents not to get the vaccine. | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/18/2008 1:30:38 PM | pappy009
you got it in one it wont effect everyone but it will afect some familys and vaccines aint safe for all , to the person who said mercury was removed yip it was but the old vaccines were still being used you think they wouldnt use there pile up they had made only way you no theres no mercury in a vaccine is to cheque the batch .and it can take up to 3 yrs for diagnosess so thats why no fall yet in numbers you seen the waiting list in glasgow alone its 3 yrs b4 your seen now . as i said in an earlyer post i have video proof my son was born normal . then shoking video only 2 weeks later . as after the last vaccine he was to ill to stand . once he did was obvious he was damaged . my son and millions more . i could argue till i was blue in the face but you gotta live it to believe it | |
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Posted: 3/18/2008 5:41:51 PM |
Just because its a vaccine does not mean its safe, science has made many mistakes in the past and we got kids born with no arms, legs during the 50s when vaccinations first came out I think it was thalidomides poisoning in the vaccine. They thought that safe too
One of the biggest reasons that medications have to go through the process they do now is thalidomide. | |
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Posted: 3/18/2008 7:04:44 PM | | With all due respect....I can't help but think that the NAA....is barking up the wrong tree.....putting all it's eggs in the ..."mercury...in vaccines basket".....Since Autism is a realitively new problem and is effecting so many.....why would mercury......which has been used for so long be the culprit?????....I tend to think the problem lies within our food source........ | |
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Posted: 3/18/2008 7:22:58 PM |
I think it was thalidomides poisoning in the vaccine
Thalidomide had nothing to do with vaccines. It was an example of poor testing however. As was mentioned, a disaster that made authorities examine medicines much more rigourously.
From Wikipedia:
Thalidomide was chiefly sold and prescribed during the late 1950s and early 1960s to pregnant women, as an antiemetic to combat morning sickness and as an aid to help them sleep.
Interesting that "A study found that autism rates for children in California increased each quarter from January 1995 through March 2007, despite the removal of all but trace amounts of thiomersal from childhood vaccines since the 1999 national recommendation. The study analyzed data from the California Department of Developmental Services database, which had been systematically used by proponents of the thimerosal hypothesis to argue that the rising number of children accessing these services was linked to increased use of thimerosal in vaccines"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22542677/ | |
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Posted: 3/23/2008 5:28:59 AM | | my sons diet did not change when he regressed only diffrence was a vaccine the day b4 . there was no such thing as regressive autism 21 yrs ago its only happening in last 21 yrs as they up the vaccines . children were born with autism . regressive autistic kids are normal up to a certain age can regress up to age 5 .. in history its never been nown to develop normal then everything go that allows you to relate to humans unless you look at minamata they became ill stoped being able to socialise .. mercury has been given to me my mother and i got my mums mercury i gave my kids mine my son got more vaccines than my daughter he was more exposed it a build up in our bodys you can get mercury free vaccines now but the flu jab and other vaccines still contain it . im diabetic i refuse the flu vaccine why as i dont want early onset dementia oh yes thats why the dementia rates arre riseing as well | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 9:24:35 AM | The Next Big Autism Bomb: Are 1 in 50 Kids Potentially At Risk?
By David Kirby
On Tuesday, March 11, a conference call was held between vaccine safety officials at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, several leading experts in vaccine safety research, and executives from America's Health Insurance Plans, (the HMO trade association) to discuss childhood mitochondrial dysfunction and its potential link to autism and vaccines.
It was a sobering event for all concerned, and it could soon become known as the Conference Call heard 'round the world.
The teleconference was scheduled by a little known CDC agency called the Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment (CISA) Network, a consortium of six research centers working on "immunization-associated health risks," in conjunction with the CDC's Immunization Safety Office and the health insurance lobby -- whose companies cover some 200 million Americans.
The hot topic of the day was mitochondria - the little powerhouses within each cell that convert food and oxygen into energy for use by the body. Recent news events have implicated mitochondria in at least one case of regressive autism, following normal development.
Some researchers on the call reported that mitochondrial dysfunction is probably much more common than the current estimate of 1-in-4,000 people. The potential implications for autism, then, are staggering.
"We need to find out if there is credible evidence, theoretically, to support the idea that childhood mitochondrial dysfunction might regress into autism," one of the callers reportedly told participants.
To read the entire article and add your comments, please visit the Huffington Post at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/the-next-big-autism-bomb_b_93627.html | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 1:17:10 PM | Not meaning to take this thread off topic, but causes of Dementia also fall into this catagory. My Mother does not have Alzheimers... she has a more serious form of Dementia called LBD (Lewy Body Dementia). She must be treated by a psychiatrist as well as a neurologist. This form of Dementia is much more challenging. LBD really does resemble 'Mad Hatter' Mercury poisoning.
I'm not claiming our story to hold fact, but the coincedence is interesting and concerning. When her husband of 30 yrs suffered a massive heart attack, she started to get the FLU shot to protect HIS health. She wanted to make sure she didn't bring the flu home to him. After reviewing her medical history, it is about the SAME time she developed panic/anxiety attacks. We all assumed it was because of her emotional reaction to his heart attack. I NOW KNOW that anxiety is a typical sign of beginning dementia, and increases as dementia progresses. At least with LBD.
Her mouth (dental fillings) is like a dentist college fund. She is up there in age, and craved candy all her life. IT SHOWS!!! I have since learned the mercury issues of dental fillings.
I decided to contact the doctor office that did the flu shots and ask for the dates she received the flu shots. It just happens to be a coincedence that about ONE month later, I was complaining to her psychiatrist, that something has CHANGED in her, and not for the positive.
This past Autumn, I decided to deny her the flu shot. It seemed the better decision.
Just earlier this week (because of this very forum thread), I called her dentist and asked for the dates when I called to state she had lost a filling. We can only assume she
swallowed it.
It just happens to be a coincedence that about 3 months later I'm calling the psychiatrist in a near panic myself, because she has gone REALLY off the wall in a very short time!!! We are talking MANIC Schzophrenic off the wall!!!
I'm NOT saying this proves anything.... but the dates of her flu shots, and the dates of her losing fillings... then the dates I call her psychiatrist because she just went downhill on me....
IT IS INTERESTING!!!! In fact... SHE JUST TOOK A SERIOUS NOSE DIVE ON
ME LAST MONTH.... and 2 months ago I called the dentist to tell him
TWO fillings were missing!!!! She was even hospitalized and they ran test on her. WE WERE ALL CONVINCED SHE HAD A MINI STROKE... but NOPE... they did a brain scan, blood tests, checked bladder... but they didn't test for mercury poisoning in her blood work because that in NOT a test that is standard, NOR does Medicare pay for such.
I currently belong to an LBD caregiver site... and many have also reported adverse reactions in their family member due to FLU shots... and now they are contacting their dentists to see if there is a pattern there.
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 1:34:56 PM | I'd be interested in any study that shows a link between fillings and dementia, but considering the tiny amounts of mercury in fillings. It wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a link,
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html
This seems to think that it's a bunch of crap anyway. | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 1:42:30 PM | So WHY are these LBD patients showing an adverse reaction to FLU shots??? Again... it is a question worthy of pondering. HOW safe are they? The swallowing of dental fillings is still vague... but interesting.
I'm not one to get into a debate with people... but I felt the coincedence was worthy of mentioning. | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 4:07:18 PM | Granted... I'm researching mercury from the direction of Dementia... but there are numerous articles on this concern as well... this is just one of many articles via the web....
http://www.mercuryexposure.org/index.php?article_id=35 | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 8:32:57 PM | well speaking as a father of a Child whom lives with in the Autism Spectrum.. as far as his vaccinations go... I will do it again in a heart beat... you see what Polio can do to you?
those whom feel that the vaccinations are the " cause " of Autism and I am a horrible parent for putting my child at risk and all that other crap.. well... I say Thank You!..I will be a bad parent when my child is better protected from YOUR rugrat when you send it to school with the Measles, or even something a little more popular.. Chicken Pox...because you mistook it for a " simple rash"....because you think the BIG PHARMA people are out to get and hurt YOUR kid and the government is covering it all up....Dont like the government?... seems like a logical option is... MOVE to a country that does NOT have a corrupt government of some sort... oh yea thats right... there are none.... AND of course it is your right to stay here and **** and complain about how the government is. just like it is your right to refuse to have your kids immunized because of what ever reason you can think up. Sure there are all kinds of " Studies" out there as the wonderful Linda has so kindly taken up a few gigs of bandwidth to point out supporting the whole thing that immunizations are killing our kids... but there are just as many supporting the argument that immunizations are safe. Look at the WTC and Pentagon tapes... there are actually people that think that this never happened.. some of you reading this will say " yup... dat der was da government too" which is fine.. it is your right to think that. yea.. I opened that can of worms... sorry...no not really...
ok anyway.. as a parent with a child whom LIVES with in the Autism spectrum.. which I may have missed that part of the postings in here mentioning that there is a VERY wide range of Autism from very low functioning almost a vegetative state... to a very high functioning almost genius like range..... did you know... Bill Gates .. Yes... THAT Bill Gates...is said to have behaviors that fall with in the Autistic range? Never ' Diagnosed" but Microsoft was one of the first major U.S. corporations to offer to pay for behavior therapy for its employees' autistic children... a few other people you may or may not have heard about have been known to display Autistic traits and yet never was " diagnosed" as Autistic....
A musician from a little town in Germany.. oh what was his name... oh yea Ludwig van Beethoven
there was a guy from Ohio invented a couple things that are some what familiar to most of us... something about a light bulb.. oh.. yes Thomas Edison....he exhibited Autistic traits.
Who was that guy... you know the creator of Charlie Brown... OHHHH Charles Shulz.. there was also some lady.....a writer of sorts .....uhmmm oh yea Emily****nson... she also is said to have exhibited Autistic traits.
so.. is it the Immunizations that "cause it" or has it just been around a little longer then what we " think" I mean.. if it is fact that that music guy Beethoven had what is being described as Autistic traits.. I some how have trouble with believing the " FACT " [ as said here once or twice] that Immunizations are the cause of Autism....
Linda... we get it... Your kid has Autism... he was fine one day and the day after a shot... not so much......my child was delayed all his life.. or so we though... so what YOU can do is sue the Pharma companies... OR... be your childs advocate get all the help you can for him and make it the best life you can with what you have....stop living in the past as it seems like you are....it is a very big bitter pill to swallow...to fully accept your child is " different" and the thinking of the " what did i do wrong... what if i did this.. or this".... i still have my days with accepting that.. but it does not change the way i love him. | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 8:51:56 PM | AS a father to a sever ASD son, who is 13 now, non verbal, nor potty trained, cannot find a teacher that will work with him, he was the only child of my 5 who got shots before the age of 2 yrs old. I feel if we go back and use what mother nature gave the moms. children are going to be fine for the first couple of yrs , then get their shots.
I WOULD NOT give any child shoots, before the age of 2. The USA is just starting to requnize that Autisum is a BIG growing problem, with real no theorpy, like Canada, and England has. I feel sueing is not going to bring back our children to " normal" we have to accept and move on. But it would be nice to find the problem, for other familys and children. I also agree it could be something in our water/food systems. greed with money to get food biger and faster for profit, and inporting from other country's with no standards, all can be a tribute to Autisuim.
good luck to all the parents with children with Autisuim, Gods speed and pacients.
Kidd | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 3/27/2008 9:20:44 PM |
Granted... I'm researching mercury from the direction of Dementia... but there are numerous articles on this concern as well... this is just one of many articles via the web....
http://www.mercuryexposure.org/index.php?article_id=35
Thats not a study, there isn't actually any data within that article, it's certainly not a study.
it's an opinion piece, with a few annecdotes. | |
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| Autism and SB 3 - Stops reporting Mercury in Vaccines
Posted: 7/1/2008 3:22:01 PM | As a mom, of a 7 yrs old, in canada.. I can assure you that they are suspended from school unless their immunaziations are up to date.... so whatever happened to the freedom of choice... AUTONOMY? Gone out the window..
As a child many ages ago... the chicken pox vaccine was not mandatory and didnt even exist... therefore we all dealt with the outbreak (well most of us)...now even that vacine is mandatory... same as the one against meningitis...
So my daughter got them all...
what are the consinquences, possible side effects? things that reasearchers might encover 10 years from now? Who knows... but seriously these are our kids our future... So who knows what is in those vaccines...
ONe i refuse to give to my daughter now is the flu vaccine...
simply cause I allow her to have it the first 3 yrs... and we were at the doc's office even ended up in emerge with many different respiratory issues... since then for 4 yrs now I don't give it to her... guesss what... even though she started school and has more chance of developing and picking up the bug... she hasnt been sick...
As for me... as a health care professional i am required to take either a flu shot or tamiflu ( pill for a course of time) otherwise I CAN'T WORK....
Again Freedom of choice.... THINK NOT.... and the worst part is IM SICK AS A DOG every flu season.... so im off work anyhow...
NOw how does all this make sense???
So to go back to the topic..?? relevance between autism and mercury in vaccines?
Well the researches say they dont' know what causes autism... genetics and perhaps enviromental effects?
Believe it or not.. but when i came to this country at the age of 13 my doc gave me like 10 extra shots... for this and this and this... so she went on....
Interesting how back home (in europe) i never heard of the autistic children... and it was in news if someone died of cancer.. as it was a shock...
I do find that ppl survived chicken pox, measles, etc... without vaccines... NATURALLY...
Here its like "LET US PROTECT YOU" "YOU NEED THIS AND THIS AND THIS, AND cancers, autism, different congenital defects, are so much higher here than back home...
Obesity is extremely rare .... meanwhile we come here eat the same as we did home and live the same lifestyle ... and we plump up.... WHAT IS GOING ON?
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