| why is the young girl image so pathetic
Posted: 4/24/2006 9:08:40 PM | | Juggernaut~ i have a 9 year old daughter and I make sure on a daily basis that I enforce how amazing,smart,funny and wonderful she is.She gets straight A s on her report cards and she told me she wants to be a veterinarian when she grows up.(she doesnt have a father figure and yet shes well adjusted)Someone on the previous page stated that a lot of these teens have "daddy issues" so they turn to the porn industry as a career.I dont think its so much about not having a strong male figure in their lives...but just someone to love and support them for the wonderful people they are be it a mother,father or friend of the family. | |
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Sarahv
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| why is the young girl image so pathetic
Posted: 4/24/2006 9:12:46 PM | Jugger she's fine I know all about it . One of the smartest young women I've ever known .
Alis kitty I do agree with you on this stuff , I'm just a little wondering about the daddy issues now ? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:15:18 PM | Cause she's new, starting out.....c'mon like you women didn't like to screw a younger guy. Who's fool are you fooling here? ....Personally, I would tap a nice, tight, piece of ass, anyday. Although, I love on the other hand, an older woman with some "f*ck your ass, stupid" sex anyday. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:15:51 PM | | Sarah many young women try to find validation through sex to compensate for a flighty male figure . It's what makes the " industry " work . psych 101 . | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:18:42 PM | Sara as I said before..Im not here to judge you or anyone else. I appreciate that.Thanks:)Omega~No I wouldnt like to screw some younger guy.I want to sleep with someone I love and who respects and loves me back.Im not out just to score some a$$,but thanks for asking. 
@ juggernaut~What do you say then to my above post relating to my daughter?I do agree with you in some instances that is the case when there is no one in a girls life to encourage her,but it doesnt necessarily have to be a male role model...doesnt hurt,but not an absolute must either:)JMHO | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:23:48 PM | | @A. Kat: That was more of my opinion....and you hear stories about hot, female, teachers and young boy students and then, well, you get the general picture here. It happens, I didn't mean every single female feels that way; but , I know there are some that do....and you don't have to lie to kick it. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:26:06 PM | | ^^ Those hot female teachers are on trial for a reason.....I know you werent generalizing and saying every woman...I was merely expressing my opinion in response to yours omega:) | |
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Sarahv
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Joined: 1/29/2006
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| why is the young girl image so pathetic
Posted: 4/24/2006 9:26:34 PM | | alis I think that it's great that your girl is doing so good in school and all that . I'm sure you are a good mother . I really think that a young girl should have a " daddy " to lay things down sometimes . I know for myself i have a hard time with it . My daughter listens more to him ^^^ most times so i guess it does matter . | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:31:14 PM | | ^Sara~Im sure you are a good mom too:)I know a lot of people do believe that a girl needs a daddy to lay things down sometimes.I do agree with you to an extent,but then,Ive always felt that a father who will belittle his daughter and put her down by calling her names ect will make her self esteem worse than an absent father figure situation ever could.I believe its far better for a girl to have a single parent household with only the mother present,as opposed to a negative male role model in her life.I do agree a father figure is best in an ideal situation...but in my eyes it depends on the father in question.JMHO.Some women stay with less than ideal male role models for the sake of their children ,when in fact their children are learning its ok to stay in unhealthy relationships.Not such a good plan in the end..... | |
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| why is the young girl image so pathetic
Posted: 4/24/2006 9:33:50 PM | Sarahv,Dare2care,& Omega are in the same class. Not worth commenting on their nonsense.=)
Since when are teenage girls not considered kids? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:35:10 PM | | ^^ I dont believe in judging anyone based on a few forum posts.Things are managing to stay peaceful in here despite the differences in opinions.I think they seem like good people. | |
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Sarahv
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| why is the young girl image so pathetic
Posted: 4/24/2006 9:39:18 PM | Yes Kitty but where do you find this man ? it's aalway like a poker game everyone puts on their best game and then it's a fold once it get's too intense in the game . I know jugger and my daughter likes him but he doesn't like my life so it's a not go . It's like everything in here they either want to phuck you or they want to cling and be stupid with all this weird stuff . I wouldn't want to have any of these men near my girl . I'd be afraid for her all the time .
cynical girl what is wrong with I say in here ? tell me that you aren't playing your prettiness little girl .......... It'swhat this thread is all about . | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:41:50 PM |
Sarahv,Dare2care,& Omega are in the same class. Not worth commenting on their nonsense.=)
Nonsense!! It's just crazy talk, is it? Well blah, to you.  No but don't put all the blame on the guy...it's the girl too, err the woman, as well. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 9:44:29 PM | | @sarav^^Where do you find good men?Good men are the ones who truly are interested in who you are.Most people are attracted first and foremost to the outside,but its the person who will truly be your friend and care when you're hurt,or sick,or listens when you have something awesome going on in your life that you might consider hanging on to.Sometimes the good guys are the ones who always end up being"the friend".They are the ones who are a little more quiet,less flashy..and ask and really care how your day went.The way to find a guy like this is to begin a friendship and give him a chance even if he isnt exactly your physical type.Ive had some amazing relationships with men and they usually started off as close friends first.My very best friend in the world is a guy and hes a fabulous role model for my daughter.Who says that the male influences in a girls life have to be a spouse or boyfriend??Take a second look at your male friends.The potential they have for dating just may suprise youAny strong role model,be it a strong male or female figure is imperative for a child to grow up with healthy self esteem and not get caught up in a career such as teen porn ect.JMHO | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 10:01:58 PM | | I didn't say all older men but there are some sickos out there. Plus you're right the things girls wear get skimpier every day. My mom would have killed me if I went out dressed like that. Plus sex is the number one money maker out there these days. Girls are being taught to use their bodies instead of their minds to get somewhere in life. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 10:11:01 PM | Alis Kat-I said a lot of these girls have "daddy issues", and I think it's true. I agree with you that not having around a guy that will just put down his daughter is probably a good thing. There are all kinds of "daddy issues" though, and girls don't necessarily turn out wrong just cause they have no dad or a bad one, but a lot of them do, and end up turning to the "industry" or to the wrong kind of guy(often VERY much like their dad), to try to compensate for whatever it is that's missing when a girl has no father or a bad one. Girls can definitely turn out to be fine upstanding individuals with no dad, but generally it's girls with good fathers that turn out the best. Also girls with no fathers tend to be sexually active at an earlier age, it's a proven fact(studies), don't want to scare you, but it's true.
Some common Daddy issues:
1.no dad to speak of
2.a dad that was there, but didn't care enough to stick around
3.a dad who is there, but doesn't really pay any attention to his daughter
4.a dad who is there, but isn't a supportive father, puts her down, etc
5.a dad who is there, but gives her too much of the wrong kind of attention...ie:molester
All girls want a loving father, and a lot of girls can get really screwed up not having one. Could be worse though...guys with "Mommy issues" turn out to be serial killers, so it all evens out I suppose! | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing
Posted: 4/24/2006 10:34:36 PM | | The young girls, and let's not forget the boys, are beautiful, vulnerable and fresh looking as pointed out, and, as they were centuries past. The difference is we are being conditioned to see them as sexual objects, and they are being more & more conditioned to view themselves as sexual objets. Decades past, an older man caught eyeing a teen would have been signaled out as a pervert. You wouldn't see a show with a man falling for the babysitter, or the housewife falling for the lawn boy. We are telling these kids that this is what we want. We are the adults and it is up to us to make a change. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 10:49:52 PM | | sick, sick, sick, sick topic in general. thats my 2 cents. theres a lot of things wrong with the pornography industry, and sadly, they make their money by becoming more wrong, sick, and "taboo" | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:13:58 PM | Some excellent posts in this thread...I just wanted to respond to Bigdadda re: Daddy issues.
One of the things that makes teen porn so disturbing to me is that it implicitly makes it OK to fantasize about underage girls. When you talk about the 'wrong kind of attention' from a father, that could be a simple as daddy looking at his daughter and having sexual thoughts. Don't kid yourself that kids can't sense that kind of sexual energy - it's every bit as damaging as an actual physical sexual assault. Sexual abuse encompasses a lot more than just fondling. Many women grew up having to endure the lewd thoughts of fathers, uncles, and stepfathers - who probably were congratulating themselves for how 'good' they were being, after all, they didn't act on their thoughts!
How does it feel to a girl who grows up in a household where daddy leaves porn lying around - especially if the porn features young-looking girls? that's not uncommon either.
Girls who grow up in this climate will feel just as worthless as the ones who were repeatedly physically raped. And voyeurism directed at a child is still considered sexual abuse.
I remember once seeing a comedy show where the MC started talking about how ironic it was that he surfed for porn on his computer while the desktop image was of his 3 young children. It was very disturbing... I'm pretty sure the guy had no idea how much he was exposing about himself in that moment. Even more disturbing was how many male audience members laughed. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:23:38 PM | | Least we forget, there have been numerous arrrests of WOMEN having sex with younger BOYS as of late. Look at all of these teachers who have been caught sleeping with their students. Also, take a look at the hypocrytical double standard that exists in this situation. Almost every woman who has been caught having sex with a teenage boy gets a slap on the wrist in terms of punishment. Why is it acceptable to just say that these women were fulfilling a fantasy of theirs yet a man is a pervert just for fantasizing about such a thing regardless of actually doing it? I do not condone any of this myself, but this is a growing phenomenon and I don't see anyone raising nearly as much concern about it. So I guess my question is this - Why has the young male image been so appealing to older women??? do you think it is the same thing? Is the double standard right or wrong because of the switch in male/female roles? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:27:45 PM | i go to a college that is inside a highschool, same building classes are all around eachother, and we all eat in the same cafeteria, and all the guys in my class sit down at lunch and look at all the grade 12 girls,
we think its funny that people call us perverts its not like we are doing anything just looking.
if you havent been to a hs in a while you would be suprised, the girls are all dressed like they are going to the bar right after school to pick guys up, tonnes of makeup tiny skirts long boots with heels and low cut shirts, how the hell are we suposed to not look,
young girls are more attractive than older ones they have nicer bodies and nicer skin and hair, now why wouldent we want to look at that over older women who dont have all that (not saying older women arnt attractive some are very but majority is younger = more attractive)
another thing is women do this too, i see lots of the female college students gawking at hs boys, and i even see them go flirt with the young boys and nobody has a problem with this, its a 2 way street, think of all the guys you know who have gone with cougers at some time or another, its about the same as girls who go with older men. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:27:59 PM |
Sarahv,Dare2care,& Omega are in the same class. Not worth commenting on their nonsense.=)
Absolutely right cynical one. you should not even play with those bad people. You should take your ball and go home. I mean really. how can 3 people who disagree with you be right when everyone knows that YOU are the only correct one here.
Uhh . . . do you do the pouty lip thing too? It is killer with some of the guys. And you have definitely scored points with me. I mean . . I used to think that the 'young girl image' refered to someone like yourself. I consider you to be quite young and thought you were attractive. Now I see that I was wrong. Thank you for your insightful input.
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:28:56 PM | | ^^greyboxerbriefs...lest we didnt forget lol see message #"s 133 and 134 above:)In response to another post,I dont think a double standard should exist whether its teen guys or teen girls being exploited in the porno industry.Why would something so damaging to a persons self worth and well being be gender descriminatory? The ramifications of being sucked in to a world of being viewed as a sexual object for a price would be equally emotionally damaging whether it be a male or female involved in this industry.Some people keep going back to this thread being all about younger girls being more attractive,but that isnt what the OP of this thread asked. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:44:12 PM |
So I guess my question is this - Why has the young male image been so appealing to older women??? do you think it is the same thing? Is the double standard right or wrong because of the switch in male/female roles?
Personally, I think it's pretty much the same thing. While some may perceive a double standard, I think that older women who prey on teenage boys are just as creepy as the opposite. And while we're at it, let's not forget the older women who prey on young girls, or the older men who prey on young boys. Bottom line is that you have an adult, someone in a position of authority, who is supposed to be mature, taking advantage of someone who is inexperienced, naive, and probably quite easily manipulated. It's very easy to use sex to manipulate teenagers - they are in a vulnerable stage of their life, before they have really fully developed a sense of who they are as individuals. Of course they're looking for approval, who doesn't at those ages? We have laws about age of consent for a reason. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2006 11:53:22 PM | | ^^Excellent post tiamat:) I think that teenagers are more easily sucked into the sex indusrty due to the fact that they believe they have this false sense of power over people by using their sexuality.It makes them feel falsely loved,desired and wanted .The sad fact of the matter is that they dont realize its being"wanted" for the wrong reasons and they are being exploited in a very negative fashion.Ive seen people posting time and time again about how hot young girls are ...blah blah blah.No one is arguing that point.Id like to pose a question to the parents here on POF with teenagers.Picture for a moment you have a daughter who just turned 18.Shes going to the beach with her friends.All your buddies are over and looking her up and down in a lewd manner.You can tell by the looks on their faces that they are thinking all sorts of things about your daughter.Now imagine that every single one of these misguided teens on these porn sites youre gawking at for mindless instant gratification purposes are someone elses daughters.They are every bit as valuable as your own children.If you wouldnt want your own child to be leered at by a bunch of older horny people,why is it ok for someone elses son or daughter?JMHO Im not normally so active in a single thread,but this topic is very important to me.I have a 9 year old daughter myself and Im incensed at the cavalier attitude some people are taking concerning this topic. | |
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