| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/25/2006 11:49:38 AM | | By the way did anybody see that dateline NBC episode about all those men, something like 60 of them from all different cultures and places in society. They were all there because they thought they were talking to and planning to have sex with a 13 year old girl/boy (actually it was a young lady playing both the boy/girl roles) Infact one was another homeland security guy and there was a indian guy with a turban and a big beard. Obviously a huge % of men desire sex with youthful looking people. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/25/2006 12:45:44 PM |
I remember reading somewhere that a high percentage of men after 40 have problems maintaining an erection
Well thank god I've come across the percentage that can KEEP an erection
We step down as breeders and let the new wave of young breeders take over.
Agree'd. But sex is one thing...planning to have kids - is another.
They are now linking older men having children to birth defects like down syndrome and schizophrenia.
Dont forget to include women in that group...older women are to be included in there too darlin'. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/25/2006 1:24:40 PM | Ok Sweetie:
I was answering this quote
"It all has to do with survival. Women usually look for strong older men who can support a child and provide. Sometimes this manifests as physical strength to protect, or other times it is inteligence and status in life. Men look for young and attractive healthy women to carry their child. Good genetics on both ends is an important trait. Even though we don't realize, it's inbred in all of us from thousands of years of evolution."
He's the one that brought up the whole "baby" issue and how young women look for older men to impregnate them and that is a small percentage of women. If we are going to look at nature then you are going to see that the YOUNG bred, because they usually are the most healthy, strongest etc.....
Now as to the point of good genetics. The point I was trying to make is that for DECADES women over 40 have been blamed for every birth defect under the sun, when in truth most children with birth defects are born to younger women. Now it looks like older men may also be contributing to these numbers. So how is that good genetics on both parts?? | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/25/2006 1:38:22 PM | True about breeding....Just a little jab here, some..just some..men in their 40's ect, are fixed, and cant have kids anyways..:)
Now as to the point of good genetics. The point I was trying to make is that for DECADES women over 40 have been blamed for every birth defect under the sun, when in truth most children with birth defects are born to younger women. Now it looks like older men may also be contributing to these numbers. So how is that good genetics on both parts??
IMO, people in their late 40's and 50's shouldnt be having kids period..but thats a whole different topic.. :) | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/25/2006 2:27:17 PM | | Well i sort of agree..Young girls Give it up for FREE, they let men USE them as a Receptical..and men take advantage of that...the young girls don't have the (education) in sexual settings..If they did ,THEY SURE WOULD MAKE THAT **stard PAY FOR JUST USING HER... | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/26/2006 8:20:35 PM | In todays world we are practically told bald faced by the media. Youth=Beauty Age=ugly. We have so many industries telling men and women that if you don't look younger your nothing. Make-up, plastic surgery, tv, movies, radio and fashion. Its not exclusive to women. Look at the ads for men. I defy you to find a fashion or grooming ad that doesn't have someone under 30 as the focus. There are quite a few that show if your old your useless. And Hollywood is one of the worst violators. I find that beauty is subjective and no one should ever tell you how to think.
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/26/2006 8:24:18 PM | Ok I can think of one company. Just for Men dye. But that industry is based on the premiss your not attractive if you show age. So it doesn't count.
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/26/2006 10:00:21 PM | [In todays world we are practically told bald faced by the media. Youth=Beauty Age=ugly. We have so many industries telling men and women that if you don't look younger your nothing. Make-up, plastic surgery, tv, movies, radio and fashion. Its not exclusive to women. Look at the ads for men. I defy you to find a fashion or grooming ad that doesn't have someone under 30 as the focus. There are quite a few that show if your old your useless. And Hollywood is one of the worst violators. I find that beauty is subjective and no one should ever tell you how to think.]
Beautifully said Harvey!!!!!  | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/29/2006 12:22:39 PM | @mayikaldragon... interesting questions!
my question is, why is pedophilia in such a rise and in tune with the female sexual/power domination that we see in the world today?
I don't believe that pedophilia is on arise at all, quite the opposite. I do think, however, that as there has been a general rise in global levels of consciousness, there is a much higher degree of exposure and awareness of pedophilia. It's just that humanity didn't want to acknowledge it as being a problem for literally thousands of years. Finally, people are starting to notice that yes, it's not cool to f*ck children, it messes them up for life, and incidentally, has very far reaching social consequences.
I don't know exactly what you mean by "victimology", nor am I exactly clear about what you are talking about re: the female sexual/power domination that we see in the world today. Perhaps that perception is to do with the following... As women finally seek to claim back their own power (the Goddess) after millenia of subjugation and oppression, they have not had a correct model of feminine power to follow - instead, the only model readily accessible to women has been the patriarchal model of "power over". So women claiming back power in this fashion are simply ineffective and not well received - they end up perpetrating the same kinds of misuse of power as males have done for generations when they try to operate in this way. And the males call us b*tches, and other unsavoury names when we behave in the same way they have always treated us for so long. Because really? it's not a great way to treat people. There has been a lack of understanding not only in western culture, but even eastern culture, where the 'yin' modality is incorrectly seen as passive. This is not true...
As far as what i blame for pedophilia... I recently did a few posts in Religion; check this thread on 'the demonization of sex' for my response to that: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/3921724datingPostpage2.aspx ... since it's a somewhat lengthy answer and I hate repeating myself :) | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/29/2006 12:50:33 PM |
As women finally seek to claim back their own power (the Goddess) after millenia of subjugation and oppression, they have not had a correct model of feminine power to follow - instead, the only model readily accessible to women has been the patriarchal model of "power over". So women claiming back power in this fashion are simply ineffective and not well received - they end up perpetrating the same kinds of misuse of power as males have done for generations when they try to operate in this way.
Extremely good point as always, Tiamat -- and one I hadn't really thought of....
Hmmm...you've given me something to think about. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/29/2006 1:21:33 PM | | I find it not sophisitcated enough, at least now days. Maybe I was raised old fashioned, but I think some of the younger women dress kind of trampy. Especially at the clubs, most are college age I think. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/29/2006 2:38:36 PM | | because dirty minded creepy men think that young girls are "tight" what they dont realize is that these "pretty young things" havn't leanred how to do their kegals yet. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/29/2006 5:47:15 PM | I haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure someone has mentioned that a lot of it might have to do with women's rights in Western countries being on the mend.
There are a lot of men who still harken back to the John Wayne era (even if they were born much more recently) and can't really handle women as equals... therefore they need to find sexual outlets they can dominate, who won't question them (for a while at least).
There was a thread on here a few months back that starred a bunch of guys who thought it was grand to go to South America to 'date' young girls... they had all sorts of excuses ("women turn emotionally ugly after in their 20s") that never really addressed their own weakness of character. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/30/2006 2:19:46 AM | | Shouldn't this thread be called: "Why do older women get pissed off when men prefer younger girls, which in turn makes older women even LESS appealing"????? | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/30/2006 2:23:00 AM |
because dirty minded creepy men think that young girls are "tight" what they dont realize is that these "pretty young things" havn't leanred how to do their kegals yet.
Another pissed-off older lady. Listen here, grandma; You may be right, they haven't learned how to do their KEGEL (at least spell it right after having to do them for so many years..........) exercises because there is no need. Ever heard of "If it isn't broken, don't fix it?" LMFAO!!!! | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/30/2006 2:44:36 AM | i am a younger(ish) girl...at 21 i prefer older men..i guess its because i find them more interesting...as to why they like me, i guess its because they find me interesting too?
i have read some of the posts from older ladies, that think that its because older men chasing young girls do it out of some perverted notion...do we think the same if an older woman bags a younger guy?
its different horses for different courses...i guess we all find different people, and different age groups attractive...and thats excatly the way it should be!
and wtf the fact has it got to do with how tight or not a girl is?? there isnt like a standard tightness due to age, get real!! | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 4/30/2006 9:38:27 PM | Sexually exploiting teenagers...
I'm pretty sure they sign up themselves....and happily accept their paychecks....
I assure you, that not every single teen (18+) porn star, were sexually abused, or corrupted into the industry.......
Sometimes sex is just sex. Why do things always have to get so complicated?
So a man wants to look at an 18 y/o girl on a porn website. So what?? The world's not ending, I think there are more important things to worry about...
A man ( or woman for that matter) jerking off to these pictures, isnt going to ruin lives. If anything, by signing up for the site, he putting money in the girl's pocket..Maybe..just MAYBE this girl is in the porn industry..to make money for college? Or to help out family member
COULD'NT AGREE MORE... LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF EXPLOITATION... WHO REALLY PROFITS FROM THIS? THE MEN OR THE MODELS? SO TELL ME AGAIN WHO IS EXPLOITED OUT OF THE TWO LEGAL AGE PARTYS?
I think tossing around the word "pedophile" is absurd. We were discussing legal adults here people, whether or not you like it, not children.
*WHO BROUGHT UP PEDOPHILIA HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE THREAD STARTED WITH ADULT WEBSITES... ALL OF WHICH (LEGAL ONES AND NO ONE MENTIONED ILLEGAL ONES) USE MODELS ONLY 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGE THEY PORTRAY.* | |
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| why is the young girl image so pathetic Posted: 4/30/2006 9:41:50 PM | "Since when are teenage girls not considered kids?"
Since the people appointed government deemed the age of majority to be 18. Allowing 18 year olds to have certain rights and obligations that kids do not have. | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 5/12/2006 12:22:53 PM | Hmmm. I haven't looked at this thread in ages. Anyways, I thought it was about young people, meaning 18-21 year olds; not people trying to look like kids. That's just gross.
And I remember reading something about someone saying all problems derive from childhood years. I won't disagree, in fact I know several people who were abused/raped in their childhood years (including family), so you're jumping to conclusions I'm living in a state of denial whomever claimed so... My post before was about the idea or illusion of people being innocent etc being young (18-21). | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 5/12/2006 6:34:41 PM | so that's why all the older guys email me....
and i picked a completely ridiculous picture for my profile. of all the ones i had, i chose the one where i was posing for an art shoot with my friend at college and i was being a 'lost little girl'  | |
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 5/12/2006 7:25:24 PM | skinnbones on 4/25/2006 2:04:19 PM Hammer! Teens = Pedophilia
Wrong....
Hebephilia: A condition in which an adult is sexually attracted to post-pubertal adolescents (14 to 17).
Pedophila: A condition in which an adult is sexually attracted primarily to pre-pubertal children -- those aged 13 years or under.
Infantophilia: A rare form of pedophilia in which the primary interest is a child 24 month or younger
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| why is the young girl image so apealing Posted: 5/12/2006 8:50:37 PM | | There was a time in the not so distant past where it was common for "teens" to be considered adults."girls" were mothers at 15.An adult of 40 was considered old. 5 children out of a family of 10 didnt make it to adult hood. Historians think the virgin Mary was 14 or 15 when she wasi n a family way with Jesus.she was engaged to Josheph at the time, he was probably about 40. It was common in the past. People lived hard and matured quickly few people made it to70 or above. I think the attraction to young women teen and up is something genetic in men.Any "girl with breasts is gonna attract attention. Humans arevisual creatures,we can look at each toehr and see if we are sexually mature or not.Unlike most mammals who use scent to determine that.Its a reproiductive thing.Younger females have a greater chance of reproductive success. Martin Luther the father of the Reformation, had to marry an ex nun of 22.She was considered an old maid and no one wanted her. An old maid. that was someone considered unmarriagable in the 1500s | |
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