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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 8:41:50 AM | | If it's the Dr. Laura from California, she is a right wing extremist and a hipocrite at the same time. Give her time and you'll find out. She's a real nut case. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 12:01:42 PM | | Yeah, back in the 50's you could find this stuff. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 2:13:32 PM | anyone who puts forth standards of responsibility and accountability are always going to be shot down and attacked. These days, calling a spade a spade is frowned upon. Steps on too many toes who want their 'spade' but don't want to be called on it.
The only women who fit that mold are in their late 50's and 60's - they've come to realize that blame and ****ing don't accomplish as much as taking responsibility for themselves and makeing the life they desire.
Blame is easier, and so many do it, misery loves company. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 3:13:41 PM | | Your talking about DR. LAURA C. SCHLESSINGER? she is a very dangerous person. alot of people take her as if she is god. i remember when she had a tv talk show. (For those of you that dont remember her show, it didnt last very long.) This woman called in and was upset. Her husband was a trauma doctor in a hospital and spent alot of time working there as he was the head of surgery there. He wanted him to quit and work at a smaller job. I dont think she realizes that , they (the head of surgery , make very good money) and that he is needed on almost an instant notice at almost any time of the day.Dr. Laura suggested for the wife to make an ultimatum. The ulitatum was to either quit the job, or she is leaving him.( note: the wife was ironically, a nurse and had meet her husband in medical school. so this shouldnt be a shock as to what he does for a living, as she knows what kind of responsibility comes with his position.) That kind of response to that type of dilema is rather disturbing and alarming. Telling someone to quit their job/career because you want them to , or to hit the road is no way to work out a problem. I have also noticed that she has given quick witted answers to similar people by either insulting the person, talking down to them, or both. I wouldnt suggest her advice to my worst enemy. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 3:19:30 PM | ^^^Dr. Laura takes the standards to a ridiculous extreme. She also attacks gays and lesbians in such a mean spirited manner that her attitude disgusts me. I am straight, but I know many homosexuals who are wonderful people. I do not appreciate hearing her anti gay garbage. She is rude, mean and condescending.
Yes, people must take responsibility, but some situations are very difficult, such as being in poverty. It takes time to get out of poverty and to improve one's life. For example, to qualify oneself for a better job takes time and education. It's very obvious to me that she lives a life of privilege and has no idea what it's like to be poor.
Sometimes a little griping is good for the soul to get frustrations off one's chest. Sometimes in the middle of that griping comes a brainstorming session on how to solve problems!! I have talked about various issues with friends, who came up with good advice to get me going again. Not all griping is a bad thing!!
If I ever met Dr. Laura I would be so eager to tell her to SHUT UP!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/23/2006 3:26:37 PM | A man thats more in touch with him self I find more attractive as they are not afriad to show emotions.I love being able to sit down and talk with a man and see hes truly tuned in"..
instead of seeing them think,,"" well can you hurry up and finish what your saying as " the hockey games on in 15 minutes...hehehe.. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 4/24/2006 2:07:27 PM | my ex used to say hurry and finish ,my t.v. show is coming on,,lol | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 5:45:43 AM |
She also attacks gays and lesbians in such a mean spirited manner that her attitude disgusts me.
Wow... I have listened to her almost daily for the last couple of years and what you're saying is not true at all. In fact, just the opposite. I don't understand where your idea came from, but its not from listening to the show.
I find her confrontational approach refreshing in a world that tends to blame others and only want to gripe. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 6:23:22 AM |
Your talking about DR. LAURA C. SCHLESSINGER? she is a very dangerous person. alot of people take her as if she is god. i remember when she had a tv talk show. (For those of you that dont remember her show, it didnt last very long.)
How in the heck can we call her DANGEROUS?? because her views differ from anothers/yours??? Then you are DANGEROUS ......if we follow your theory here! Silly really isn't it?
Let's say your accounting of events is true........the fact is......she is not GOD........she simply has a talk show and offers advice .......if YOU MAKE HER YOUR GOD......then that is your problem or anyone else who can't think for themselves...........I LOVE HER SPIRIT and attitude! I say she has bigger balls than some men I know...........I do NOT always agree with her however but most times I can find some common ground of belief!!
So to address the OT.............
YES, my 2 sisters and I are VERY much like that.........my sister NEVER lets her husband come home and find her with her hair not done or in a bathrobe.......if he comes home......We hang up the phone........it's a RESPECT issue.............They adore their husbands and have their back NO MATTER WHAT..........in turn..........My brother in laws treat them like PRINCESSES!! My one sister does not cook but she is a PRO at ordering meals and hiring people to do so. I don't have money flowing like water so that isn't an option for me everyday as I have 3 kids in college and one just graduated from a university this year. However, I work a great deal so I do make sure I hire the cleaning out and eat out more than I should. My siblings marriages are amazing to watch...........my BROTHER............does the same for his wife, although he does the shopping and cooking and is totally devoted to her(HE'S A DETECTIVE and certainly no wimp, she comes from a very different family and is not as giving but after 27 years she is learning )yes ...........my parents have been married for over 50 years and we have watched what works and doesn't work................my siblings have been married ONE TIME........27years the longest..............sooooooooooo YES there are women our there and the women in my family believe it supporting our men.....FULLY..........and remember...........we expect the same in return.............
I hated being the only marriage failure in the family. I got married at 18 to a man years older and could never make him happy. He is a great man, he just doesn't know it. Later I learned, I can never make another person happy, so the key is to find one who already IS. The simply truth is ...he was very unhappy with himself and wanted to make me as miserable and I refused to join him. I know that no matter how I tried I was never pretty enough, thin enough or cooked good enough (so he said, YES in counseling he agreed with that statement) so I LEFT after 19 years of trying to change is mind(I know, I know, I was an idiot.) But I am not jaded about love........I am just holding out for the man who adores me and doesn't want to live without me! I already KNOW what I bring to a relationship so I need to have something coming back this time around. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? Maybe so, but I can do this alone if I have to...........however, I would PREFER NOT TO......... so in the meantime.........I only have this ONE WILD AND PRECIOUS LIFE.........so I will live my life fully and believe that there is someone(manyones) out there just for ME!!!!
Call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one!!!
Diva | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 7:23:36 AM | Dr. Laura is not mean spirited. She embraces and espouses a traditional view of morality. I don't agree with her on everything, and I squirm a bit, at times, because I know that my life hasn't met the perfect ideal. I don't think she claims to be perfect either. She merely points out the direction that she believes, based on traditional moral belief, is the one that is ultimately the path to being in harmony with God and ourselves. What I hear is "hate the sin, but not the sinner".
I have a gay daughter, who I love with all my heart. I accept her as she is, but does that mean that I have to embrace "political correctness" and deny that I wish her life were on a different path? I'm divorced, and I accept that it was my selfishness that destroyed it after 19 years. Would it be better for me to hide from my responsibility, by embracing some notion that views divorce as the "normal" outcome of marriage?
Why is our society so intolerant of people who don't fall into step with "political correctness" in every detail? We are supposed to be a society based on free expression, and the competing ideas in the marketplace of thought, from which people can gain wisdom, rather than the closed minded insistence that what someone "feels" contains all the truth in the universe. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 8:32:50 AM | Never listened to Dr. Laura or any radio talk shows.
It takes two people to make a relationship and make it a good one. We can only be responsible for what we do or don't do, not what the other person does or doesn't do. Unfortunately it does only take one to make the relationship go south.
I almost laugh when I hear well if she/he does that, then I'll do the same...blah blah. To me that almost reeks of having to prove something (worthiness) or making someone jump through hoops.
If that works for you, great. Not my cup of java, though. If I find someone I feel is the right person, then I treat them "right" from the start. If they're deserving then I've decided they are and if they're not then I'll know soon enough. But I'll treat them as if they are until they prove otherwise.
Bottom line is I think too many want to respond to being treated well, rather than realizing and taking the initiative that they're just as responsible for the happiness of the other person and the relationship as their partner is.
I don't want a good relationship I want a great one! And I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make my man the happiest he's ever been. Funny thing is he does the same for me. It's really terrific when it works that way. But it's two minds, two hearts, two lives together on the same path working towards the same goals with the same mindset.
It IS a great relationship and I fully intend to keep it that way. I know he does too.  | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 8:48:09 AM | | Those were great posts Kay.....Its hard to be a man in today's world with all the forces out there telling him to keep a tight lid on things.....It must be very stressful and I wonder if it makes them feel alienated and cut off from themselves.....I so agree with you that putting the effort into making yourself attractive and desirable is the key to keeping the spark alive....One of the greatest pleasures in life for me is getting ready to spend time with my guy..The warm baths...shampooing the hair and conditioning it...body scrubs to make your skin extra soft and smooth..the pleasing soft scents you sparingly use...choosing your clothes with care that make you look sexy, warm and feminine and knowing he will appreciate that and be aroused by that....Giving yourself pedicures and manicures on those fingers and toes that he loves to hold and caress..Mens needs can simple when it comes to that and zeroing in on how to please him via the senses: taste, touch, sight,smell, etc, is something I always keep in he back of my mind..Your reward is when they open up that complex part of themselves no one else sees...Having him unburden that and revealing himself and me being amazed by the wonder of it is what its all about for me too..Not to mention that it stirs my feminine desire to nurture and protect that part of him that is trashed and misunderstood by the real world | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 8:50:20 AM | Dr. Laura is nothing more than a man hater, and a working woman hater. Meanwhile this "pillar of morality" has nude pics on the internet, divorced how many times.
I literally never heard hatred on the radio until I heard her. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 9:00:28 AM | "Would it be bettter for me to hide from my responsibility , by embracing some notion that views divorce as a the "normal" outcome of marriage"
I think you mistake acceptance of something you cant change, like a past divorce, with "political correctness"...Its really about both: taking responsibility for what you have done and accepting what has happened and moving on..Not wallowing in it or continuing to self blame or judge nor to deny your part in a failure...What makes you think those who favor more open and egalitarian relationships would think otherwise?..That always puzzles me....About those "traditionists" who think they have the right answers and only answers regarding fidelity, integrity and acceptance of personal repsonsibity...That somehow you cant be a strict "traditionist" and also have those values.......Dr. Laura has found a market niche by capitalizing on peoples guilt and anxiety regarding past transgressions.... They dont need more salt poured into wounds they already have.....Particularly by someone who has a business agenda behind the "advice" they give...That can bring some to further mental despair, even suicide to folks, after Dr. Laura has moved on to another listener and forgotten them....She opens up delicate boundaries and defenses on people when they have serious problems, trashes them with criticism and guilt inducing harshness they are already feeling , them moves on to the next person..That would never happen with a professional therapist.... Dr. Laura is neither a licensed psychologist, her PHD is not in psychology, nor is she credentialed to perform counseling....Credentialed means you have been supervised by others for many hours regarding providing therapy before being allowed to provide it on your own...I think thats something people need to keep in mind when they listen to her...Im sure she has given some practical advice as long as its not too deep or complicated but what good friend or family member hasnt provided the same thing? | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 9:09:16 AM |
(Msg 38) Dr. Laura is nothing more than a man hater, and a working woman hater. Meanwhile this "pillar of morality" has nude pics on the internet, divorced how many times.
That's our Dr. Laura. 
MeloFelo writes in msg 35,
Dr. Laura is not mean spirited. She embraces and espouses a traditional view of morality.
Traditional or just old? Nothing annoys me more than someone who lived their younger days as they wished and then once their youth and poularity ended they pick up the ol' time religion. How she has the nerve to offer sex advice to young people after the way she carried on...... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 9:11:04 AM | AMEN
SOmeone else who believes as I do:) Thank you Kay:) I love a man who can be a man in all ways and that includes the softer sides. They are puzzles and challenges and love it because when you finally find the inner being you have something special and wonderful:)
'If we take men at face value, give them the respect and trust they need in time they may just open us up to their amazing world of dreams, fantasies, thoughts, fears, hopes, desires and so much more. Men are absolutely intoxicating, challenging, and thrilling all in one. And I find discovering their depth through the layers they present to the world the most rewarding challenge of them all. There is nothing greater than being loved and trusted.
Yes men are sensitive, loving, sexy, caring, gentle, soft, hard, and everything in between' Quoted you hope you do not mind:) The thing also is they need to give us the same respect and trust and would probably be surprised at what THEY find:)
Julia (irishlass451) | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 10:59:55 AM |
Particularly by someone who has a business agenda behind the "advice" they give...
I would say the true business agenda on this type of advice is more self-served by therapists which charge you by the hour... and credentialed has no bearing on performance delivered, as I am sure you are aware there are good therapists and bad ones.
And you are right in that sometimes the advice we get from our family or friends might be what we would get from a skilled professional -- without the exchange of dollars at the end of the session. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 11:00:40 AM | ^ and he's your "boyfriend" then, why exactly Knees? I mean, if thats such an accurate description of how you see him, and how you feel about him... heck, why would you be with him? I'd think *he* would be better off with someone who didn't see him in such a negative "light", and you would be too.
Food for thought. If you feel that negatively about him and you are still staying, there must be *some* redeeming quality. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 1:06:50 PM | Why,, are,, you,, putting,,two,,commas,, after,, every,, word??
Also, Dr. Laura is a hack. Naggers are annoying, but so are people that don't pull their own weight. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 3:21:57 PM | I can't say I've heard Dr Laura, but I just thought I'd add a few anecdotes.
1) I used to share a flat with my sister. In the beginning she was doing all of the chores, and I wasn't used to sharing responsibilities with one person in this way. Anyway, she wanted me to do the washing up, and I agreed, but I hadn't done it. She had a friend come round that day for lunch, and she was very annoyed with me that I hadn't done the dishes. She was ready to explode, but her friend advised her to just wait me out. After a while, I did it.
Then, the next time she asked me, she waited until I did it, and it was much easier. She even thanked me for doing it, which made me much keener to do it the next time.
Eventually, I did it automatically, every single time she cooked.
2) A few months after we moved in, I found myself w/out a job. But I had no idea what to do. My sister suggested I look in the paper, but I wasn't sure what paper to look at, that would have a job I could do. She gave me the local paper that was already in the house, and told me to look at that. So I did. I saw a few jobs, but I didn't know if they would take me. She asked me if I saw any jobs, and I said I did. She asked me about ringing them. I said that I didn't think that they would take me. She said phone anyway. I did, and they wanted to see me that day. I told her that they probably would not want me. She said go anyway, just to see. I went, they tried me out, and they said to start that night. I kept it for 1 1/2 years.
3) A few months after having the job, they started phoning me at short notice if someone cancelled their shift. This started interfering with my plans and my sister's plans as well. She said that it was up to me to accept a shift I had not agreed to or not. The next time they rang I told them to hang on while I give them my answer. I told her that they rang, and she asked me if I wanted to do the shift. I said that I didn't. She told me to tell that I just didn't want to do it. I did, and that was that. Life got a lot simpler after that.
We ended up getting on so well, we could talk most of the night, night after night, and we went on holiday together. Every other time I went on holiday with someone else, it was a disaster.
I'm not recalling the entire conversations and events, but that is the gist of it. Just hope I could have such an easy-going time with my future partner. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:05:14 PM | I looked over the post above mine, and think the words stupid and irresponsible are good ways to describe Dr. Laura.
She advised a woman to give an ultimatum to a husband who had a good job to QUIT the job??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an (unprintable)!! That is immaturity at its worst!! If a man is hard at work doing his job as chief of surgery, he isn't likely going out running around. He's doing his fracking job! I would GLADLY be with a guy who is responsible and hard working. I can find ways to keep myself occupied while he is out working. My advice to that woman would be: "Be grateful that he has a good job. He is being responsible by doing his job and being there when he is needed. Don't be so needy! Get a life, and develop your own hobbies and pastimes that you enjoy yourself. Your time with him will be all that much better and more interesting. After all, you could have been stuck with a guy who is an irresponsible loser who cannot keep a job! Count your blessings, my friend!"
Advising someone to dump a guy because he is a hard worker???!!! My DOG could give better advice! WOOF | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:13:04 PM | ^ Well, I agree and don't with that DW. There *is* such a thing as working "too much" (been there, a little .com back in the day, website support... hey, we could wear shorts and flip/flops in the summer, and the hours were "flexible", but try a year of "in at 11AM, leave at 1AM", with a 45min drive each way, you discover your life is sleep, eat, work... and not much else - on the bright side I did bump my salary up 30+% in a year, and got that at my next job!).
There is a work/life balance. I don't know as I would want to be in a relationship with, well.. myself back then, but someone who worked those kind of hours (you wouldn't have *time* to have a relationship). But, agreed, I think *my* advice would be to talk to your "SO" about it, and see if they could arrange less hours, or at least particular days off for "quality time" for the relationship, etc, rather than saying "they quit or dump them!". Thats an ultimatum, never a good thing in any relationship, vs. actual open communication about your feelings and the effects its having on the relationship. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:36:05 PM | I've listened to many DrLaura programs and can say that there is nothing similar in her advice I have ever heard to the things people are complaining about. Responsibility is her main emphasis, towards children first.
And these people are "calling her" to ask for her advise, so it is not like she's pulling someone off the street to yell at them. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:47:05 PM | Doctor Laura is a modern woman with conservative insights, thus the whinny lefties hate her and call her names. All the more reason to listen to her show.
She is voice of reason in a desert full of Dr. Phils. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:58:06 PM | THANK YOU JANET!!!
And what really blows my mind is that people are calling her everything but a child of god off of HEARSAY from an internet forum thread! As though this is gospel. How ridiculous is this???
LISTEN TO HER YOURSELF PEOPLE and form an intelligent opinion based on things you have heard her say personally. LIKE her, DON"T LIKE her.......it's up to you ......but understand........some people enjoy and appreciate her approach to life. Some people don't follow others like mythical lemmings and make informed decisions based on several factors.
Now wouldn't it be a sad world if everyone was exactly the same? I don't need people to agree with me or be just like me.....I already HAVE A ME........you be you and allow others their differences.............ya think?
I'm with Janet, I have NEVER heard her say any such thing that many here have alluded to or out right stated as fact!
DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ABOUT THAT DR. PHIL, I have my own informative decisions on Dr Phil....... when I have watched him I don't have television so it was rare, I have NOT agreed with him, now maybe I'm catching him on an off day.......but I don't think so.......He's book was so pathetic and redundant I couldn't finish it!!
sorry, i forgot where I was for a minute and went on a tirade......seems to be the theme here so I guess I'm okay!
Diva
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Scorpio, can I have some of what you're smoking? You lost me! | |
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