| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 5:07:21 PM | ^ Well, Diva, I've heard her a few times... a few years back when I was travelling a lot for work she was on the radio on my drive between states. Yeah, I dunno, I heard some advice that was good, and some that I didn't necessarily agree with... *in my opinion*.
But then, yeah, it would be a sad world if everyone was the same. Be quite dull and boring actually. And I don't have to agree with your opinions, or you mine. Last thing I'd do is take anything Dr. Laura or Dr. Phil spouts out as "the word of God, best advice ever" - I make my own choices. But, on the flip side, if it gets me thinking, challenges my view of things, then regardless of my ultimate viewpoint on it, the fact that it got me *considering* other things is probably a good thing.
Some of the things people have said that I disagree with the most, sometimes are the things I need to examine as to *why* I feel so strongly negative about them. Can learn a lot about *yourself* that way. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 5:11:22 PM | very true forums1 I can agree wholeheartedly with you there.........some things you'll agree with and others you won't.........it's important to ask yourself the WHY'S!!
excellent point. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 10:20:42 PM | "I would have to saw the true business agenda on this type of advice is more self served by therapist which charge you by the the hour ...and credentialed has no bearing on performance delivered"
I think being paid 25 to 30 dollars per client hour , as are most therapists in agencies, is nothing compared to what Dr. Laura is paid as an untrained, unlicensed person posing as a therapist....So I fail to see how the average therapist is more self serving than Dr Laura, who makes 100 times more per hour than 90% of all therapists....I also disagree with you that credentailing has no bearing on the performanance delivered...No professionally trained therapist with ethics would even think of doing what Dr. Laura does on her show....There is no confidentialy for people and no boundaries...Basically, shes pretty self serving with none of the responsibility you say is so important......Only someone with a trained eye can see the mistakes that she does with people that can lead to problems.....Plus, being unlicensed and uncredentialed, this provides no protection for the public against those therapists who are unethical...The licensing boards for most therapists also serves as a disciplinary board for the protection of the public..With someone like Dr. Laura, there is no place for clients to go if she behaves unethically because she isnt licensed..Her behavior is basically unmonitored by anyone except the radio airwaves.......That would never happen with a licensed therapist, whos behavior is monitored by the board that licenses her... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 10:34:33 PM | Bottom Line - if a woman want a find, secure and keep a man in a loving relationship (rather than just complain about it) then she will read Dr. Laura's book - The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands'
Men want to be accepted, appreciated and loved. You get more with sugar than salt.
Joe | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 10:50:45 PM |
Dr. Laura is paid as an untrained, unlicensed person posing as a therapist
Actually, she is licensed and trained, and did practice in California as a marriage therapist.
On the other hand, she makes it quite clear on her show, that she can't do therapy on the air, that call ins are not therapy, and she often suggests to people that they seek therapy. It's show business, and the callers represent an incredibly fractional portion of the audience. What does whe take 8 calls n 3 hours, and she has a cume audience of 2 million.
She I know, and believe, is trained and credentialed. On the other hand, there are, from time to time, poseurs online, who claim advanced degrees, that I am very skeptical that they actually have. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/7/2007 11:12:27 PM | | Dr. Laura ROCKS!!!!! PERIOD!!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 4:28:12 AM | | to all those who live by Dr. Laura's advice: i hope you're aware that while she has a doctorate, it's not in psychology (her degree is in physiology, a branch of biology and has nothing to do with the mental health field). she's not a psychiatrist or psychologist, and therefore no more qualified to give advice than your mom or your nosey neighbour down the street. only difference is, her bs has been cleverly marketed. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 4:36:40 AM |
I think being paid 25 to 30 dollars per client hour , as are most therapists in agencies
NOT IN MY WORLD!!! your figures may be current for your town........but that is grossly out of line for most areas........try at least $100 per client/hour!
It's rather simple..........if people are silly enough to follow blindly without ever thinking for themselves then so be it. I don't subcribe to every word ANY one says...I listen, sometimes I like it and agree and sometimes I may not.
Keep in mind, Dr. Laura has NO ONE handcuffed to their radio demanding they listen to her,............turn the station people! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 5:33:02 AM | I thought this thread would be about the things talked about so often on the show and not about her personally?
I think it has been a tremendous tool to examine my own relationships and has challenged some of my selfish attitudes towards a partner. How can that be harmful? | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 5:57:54 AM | Janet4Now - well its easy for people to berate someone for their opinions/beliefs rather than deal with the issues she brings up.
I agree with a lot of what she says on treating the man in your life. Maybe thats an old fashioned way of thinking, but doesn't it feel wonderful when you do something for someone else rather than just for yourself??? Doesn't sex with your partner FEEL Wonderful???? Don't you feel better when you're looking HOT & SEXY??? For some men that doesn't mean dressed to the 9's sometimes that means just wearing little boyshort undies and a tank with no bra!!! Its discovering what your man loves about you, (usually by his responses to you) and offering him that and a little more every so often. Is that really that difficult???? To me its a good excuse to go shopping for some terrific clothes that make me feel good!!! Put it this way, would you rather be married to a closet homosexual like I was. No matter HOW much I tried it wouldn't faze him. OMG Think about it.
Honey, I just want a good man that can love me and my kid for who we are. I'm willing to do my part !!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:09:05 AM | "Actually she is licensed and trained, and did practice in the state of California as a marriage therapist"
You are misinformed........Her PhD is in physiology, not psychology....She is not a licensed psychologist....Her MFCC (certificate in marriage and family, child counseling) doesnt recognize her as a licensed psychotherapist, per the laws of the State of California....A certificate is much different than a license....Certification doesnt grant you an automatic license to practice therapy..... It is illegal in California to call oneself a psychotherapist without a state license, which she does not have...Her MFCC doesnt make her credentialed or licensed and she hasnt been supervised and monitored as a student by anyone with a PhD from a credited program....All MSW and PhD psychology programs in the United States require supervision two years beyond the advanced degree in order for therapists to be eligible for a license to practice therapy....So she has neither the proper training not does she qualify legally to be called a psychotherapist or psychologist...Which doesnt protect the public from her unethical mistakes she does on people because they have no legal recourse or governing board to turn to for help...If you choose to go to an unlicensed , untrained person for therapy thats your choice...... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:21:16 AM | | You get what you give. If you give enough just maybe you get back a 100% more. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:29:24 AM | "Try at least $100 dollars an hour"
A few who dont utilize clients health insurance companies can make that but thats very few...Those who work with the rich who dont bother with insurance cos they can afford to pay our of pocket...And thats in private practice......I was talking about those who work in agencies, which make up the bulk of therapists.....Most people, at least the middle and upper middle class and the poor ,want to utilize their health insurance... Most health insurance companies take about $60 of that $100 leaving a therapist in private practice with about $40 to $50 per hour....Therapists in agencies make about $30 an hour as a fee for service clinician.....Massachusetts, Rhode Island..Maine, New Hampshire..Texas.....States considered quite wealthy...So most therapists arent making that $100 an hour | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:39:13 AM | Oh, one more thing i forgot to write. Why dont we just make men out like some god.
My oh my, women came a long way to get where we are today. To be recognized as equals and not treated like slaves or some pleasure toy.
I strongly believe you shall be treated like you treat other people.
I'm sure if a guy treats a woman like a goddes he will be treated like a god. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:43:09 AM |
* BS, Biological Sciences, SUNY Stonybrook, Long Island, NY
* MS, M Phil, Ph.D. (Physiology), Columbia University (College of Physicians and Surgeons), NY
* Post-Doctoral Certification in Marriage, Family and Child Counseling, Human Relations Center, University of Southern California, Los Angeles
* Licensed Marriage, Family and Child Counselor (MFCC), California, formerly in private practice for 12 years
* Past member of the Biological Sciences faculty of the University of Southern California (five years) and the graduate Psychology faculty of Pepperdine University (eight years)
* UCLA and UC Irvine Extension course instructor
I'm not that hung up on on titles and credentials and more interested in the effectiveness... but I did get this info off of her website if its such a big deal to others.
I've been to quite a few therapists. Some were a complete waste of time, wanted to take my money, pat my hand, and keep an on-going weekly appt on the books.
Anyway, I believe the one poster is actually a therapist or counselor, and I wonder if you ever recommend any of her books to the people who come to you? Read them yourself, maybe? | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 10:33:13 AM | Any public figure is going to draw a fan base and people who dislike them. Get the same reaction when someone mentions Dr. Phil. I don't watch or listen to either myself, I only listen to music on the radio and I don't watch any daytime TV.
Here's how I look at it. There's obviously a good amount of people getting value from what they're doing/saying as they're still on the air. The cost of air time is prohibitive so their fan base has to be pretty extensive to keep them on.
It's not unlike here. If it's a thread you don't like, click on by. If it's a profile you don't like don't write, click to the next one. Dr. Phil and Laura are both being paid to give out their advice, where we're just all throwing ours out there for free.  | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 11:18:19 AM | Uh that would be a BIG NO..... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 12:59:33 PM | wasn't she the radio talk show host who claimed to be a Dr. and was later exposed as a fraud???
I think maybe her opinions will reflect her dishonesty...
probably best to steer clear... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 6:19:21 PM | Tigger calling Dr. Laura " a voice of reason ".
Pathetic! Yet another sheep brainwashed by the likes of "Dr." Laura and Rush Limpuke. No wonder our country has so many problems. Our country is overrun by these kinds of animals spewing right wing lies to the people, turning them into nonthinking sheep. Count me out--I refuse to be brainwashed by the right wing media that has dominated our country.
If I had a radio station, I would dump the Dr. Laura and Rush Limpuke (unprintable) and have a more reasoned balance, liberal, moderate and center-right ala George Will, rather than these extremist right wing windbags that have dominated the airwaves for far too long.
The sound of brainwashed sheep:
BAA BAA!!! BAA BAAA!!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 7:28:27 PM | If I had a radio station, I would dump the Dr. Laura and Rush Limpuke (unprintable) and have a more reasoned balance, liberal, moderate and center-right ala George Will, rather than these extremist right wing windbags that have dominated the airwaves for far too long.
The point of the first amendment is that all opinions have a right to be heard and compete in the marketplace of ideas for the hearts and minds of the public. Most coporate owners of radio stations don't have a political axe to gring, but are in the radio business, to earn a fair return for their stockholders on the considerable investment required to own a radio station. Radio stations, and a network, have been configured, much as you "would" do if you had several million dollars or more to own a radio station. The progressive network that was the darling of the left, "Air America", was started and funded well, but ultimately went into bankruptcy. Other syndicators carry individual progressive talkers, like Stephanie Miller on the Jones network. Air America failed, because it didn't succeed in the market place. Some radio groups, who own multiple stations in a market, have in deference to charges that they only carry "right wing" talk shows, dedicated one of their stations in a market to "progressie talk". Inevitably the "right wing" talk stations will outperform the "progressive" talkers, 2 or 3 to one in the ratings.
The stations sell advertising, and the networks do too. In exchange for carrying syndicated shows, the network gets to air national ads that bring revenue to the network, and the local stations are given a certain number of minutes to sell per hour during that broadcast. The biggest progressive network is bankrupt, and the radio groups, inevitably, find that the poorest performing station in their cluster, is the "progressive talk" station.
Why? Because people freely choose what to listen to. More people are interested in hearing Dr. Laura in most markets, than Ed Schultz (a progressive talk show that goes head to head with her show in many markets). It's a business. Advertisers advertise where the people are, and pay higher rates to get them. In almost every market, Rush Limbaugh is the #1 show in his time slot with adults 25+, and the underlying marketing numbers that advertisers most cherish are also stronger. Interestingly, in the "overnight" time period, far and away the most successful radio show is neither left nor right. It's just weird. Coast To Coast with George Nouri, formerly with Art Bell.
Dr. Laura is in "show business", and so is Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Stephanie Miller, etc.. Their success or failure is based on ordinary people choosing to listen, or not. Is there something wrong with that? | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:18:50 PM | I have no problem with people disagreeing her certain viewpoints. But the few specific things that were said were not true, and the rest are just generalized polical crap that has nothing to do with anything I listen to...
Pre-marital sex, abortion, sex-less marriages, nagging, dating people with minor children....
these are specific things that some people have objection to... not all I thoroughly embrace either, but I do not see how that undermines a society, when it is a very large number of these same people that make a choice to listen everyday.
Is that not the ultimate "pro-choice?"
and you want to deny it?
Communism is the control of everything as decided by a few... and we do know this does not work already. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:30:51 PM | | OMG me and my mom read this book and laughed .... but I could see why you would like her book she deffinantly wrote it geared towards males, well good luck in your search dude and yes I think there are women out there that are willing to feed there husbands and keep them happy lil campers. .... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:33:58 PM | | Dr Laura is a **** and she`s not even a doctor.I don`t know why people would call her just to be told how stupid they are. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:45:17 PM | she`s not even a doctor.I don`t know why people would call her just to be told how stupid they are.
Was it Forrest Gump who said, "stupid is, as stupid does". Someone holding a Phd. is generally allowed to use the honorific "Doctor". If you "feel" that only M.D. should be called "doctor", ok, that's what you feel, and if you "feel" that I'm "stupid" for not "feeling" as you do, ok. At least I'm not arguing on the basis of "I feel....therefore it is". | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/8/2007 8:48:21 PM | | Piano4te, amen and hallelujah. | |
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