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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 11:35:51 AM | OP: Of course there are women who think the way Dr. Laura "appears" to think...whether she really does or not will never be known. I happen to think men are great...if you take them at face value. A lot of women want to change men, or will read what they want into what they say. And no man is truly bad in bed if he's sleeping with a woman who knows what she likes and what turns her man on - there's nothing that cannot be learned if you know what works for you.
If I learned one thing working in the media it's this: the "believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" applies in the case of a lot of radio and TV personalities. They cater to a certain audience, and they're paid to do that. I was working in radio before that story broke about her first marriage; I worked with a radio jock who was an old co-worker of her assistant for many years, and they still talked years later; the boy toy stuff she pulled constantly to either promote him or get what she wanted in the late 80s to mid 90s was pretty blatant; eventually he quit his job over it.
I know a few genuine people who are who they are both on and off air, but they are in the minority - media is a calculated business and a lot change their personas to fit the demographic because they know if they don't there's someone younger, and cheaper ready to take their place. Listen and be entertained, but always struggle and question what you want to believe, and always use common sense. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 12:58:32 PM | The only radio talk show that is worth its salt is "Car Talk" on NPR. It's funny, and informative. I enjoy hearing Click and Clack talk about car problems with their zany wit. I laugh while I learn something. There should be more truly entertaining talk shows that discuss subjects that people enjoy. I hate negative talk radio--the more right wing, the more negative it is. I'd rather have a smile on my face from hearing something that's enjoyable and positive. You go (maybe Yugo LOL), Click and Clack! You guys are #1 in my heart foreva (they are Boston guys)!!!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 1:12:33 PM | Ok, NPR, the darling of the left, funded by the coercive power of taxation, whereby those diametrically opposed to the programming, are forced to pay for it anyway. And, the left calls conservatives "fascists?"
Here's a clue. NPR, by and large, is lousy radio, with low ratings, mostly with shows that no one with a choice would actually pay for. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 4:56:28 PM | "Actually she is licensed and trained, and did practice in Califonia as a marriage therapist"
Dr. Laura is not a licensed psychologist nor a licensed psychotherapist....Shes an entertainer...Nothing more.....It is illegal in the State of California to call oneself a psychotherapist without the license...She practiced as a marriage and family therapist under her MFCC certification..That is not the same as being licensed.....Anyone who completes the certification process can receive that, without having to take any graduate level courses in either psychology or social work or have any kind of standardized internship where her work is monitored as a student.......So theres no complete and thorough training the public can be assured of ..There is no governing board that monitors her behavior, unlike licensed psychologists and social workers who are monitored by the respective boards that license them...Thus the public remains unprotected from those like her who pose as therapists...I am a licensed independent clinical social worker (LICSW) who has practiced for 20 years.....Ive also supervised social work interns and BSW level social work associates....Ive been thru the process and Dr. Laura definitely is not credentialed to be giving any advice as a therapist..Yet she opens people up all the time, attacks them, then moves onto the next person without checking to see whether or not they are okay...Clear prooof of her inexperience and ignorance....Doing that would be grounds for disciplinary action for any licensed psychologist or social worker..The average person isnt aware of this....Highly unethical and legally dangerous, making yourself open to litigation if something happened to a client and you did not document that you gave them a standard level of care...Leaving someone alone in a suicidal crisis isnt practicing a standard level of care...Ive heard people talk about being in that state after Dr. Laura got ahold of them.......Would you hire a plumber to look under the hood of your car?...I wouldnt.....The public takes their own risks when tune into a quack like her | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:06:03 PM | Quack or not I like her common sense...and life is little more than that....
We all need a dose of reality, outside of the impractical listen and knod crap so many "therapist's" spew out.....
At least she calls em like she see's em.....and does not charge the outlandish fee's....
Get a grip, you do not need to be a licensed psychologist to be able to offer common sense to people with no sense to begin with.....
Mayhap you need to listen to her show, before climbing aboard the soup-box...and realize how little you people really do for others......besides clear their bank accounts...
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:08:33 PM | Why do you feel threatened by her existence? and don't say you don't, I ain't buying it.
If she is helping people, and obviously her massive audience would indicate so, why do you care so much?
Lots of quacks are legally in the pond as well, lady. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:13:06 PM | "...she calls em like she sees em...and does not charge outlandish fees"
Are you kidding me?..Dr. Laura is raking in big $$$ to host her radio show and publish her books....With no accountability or responsibility for what she says....And I thought conservatives were supposed to be so big on that!...Get real...I make 40K a year..I hardly think that qualitfies "clearing someone's bank account" when I can barely pay my own expenses.....Especially when quacks like Dr. Laura make 100 times more than me....And she does alot more than just offer common sense...Manipulating people into opening up for her, them slamming them, and abandoning them is alot more devious than innocently offering common sense....Her sole purpose is to create a large reactionary target audience that buys her books and reacts favorably to her abuse to others while on the air...The gang mentality and bullying a vulnerable target always makes money ....If you want to see a quack for therapy, go ahead..Its your risk, not mine.... | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:15:58 PM | Other people call them as they see them too, but are not Dr's or have a radio show!!  | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:17:25 PM | "Why do you feel threatened by her existence"
Because Ive had clients who have come directly to me after working with quacks like her..No license and no credentials as a therapist......Pretty messed up, more than before they saw the quack.....I deal with the fallout after they leave an abusive situation with an imposter posing as a therapist........It took months, sometimes years for them to recover from their abuse...
So Im not so much threatened but more very concerned because Ive seen what can go wrong with many people who go to someone like her for "therapy".. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:19:32 PM |
Dr. Laura is not a licensed psychologist nor a licensed psychotherapist....Shes an entertainer...Nothing more.....It is illegal in the State of California to call oneself a psychotherapist without the license...She practiced as a marriage and family therapist under her MFCC certification..That is not the same as being licensed..
"I feel....therefore it is?" Janet4Now has twice posted her credentials. I don't question Dr. Laura's, but I do question the claimed post graduate degrees of "some" posters on this thread. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:26:16 PM | | Melo Felo:...Read Janets posting again..There is nothing there that says Dr. Laura is licensed to practice therapy...An MFCC is a certificate, not a license..There is nothing there that says Dr. Laura completed a standardized internship or training leading directly to eligibility for licensing...Her PhD is in pysiology....THAT doesnt train you to be a therapist nor does completing a certificate that anyone with a degree in anything can get...Anymore than a degree in accounting would prepare you to become a therapist........The two are different......Read up on the State of California licensing boards regarding that.....Im repeating what I read there...As for you doubting the existence of my graduate degree, it sounds more like you cant handle the truth here than anything else . | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:45:06 PM | ...As for you doubting the existence of my graduate degree, it sounds more like you cant handle the truth here than anything else .
I didn't point to you specifically. I will say this much. I have a B.S. in psych, and went back to grad school (Jane Addams, UICC) to pursue my MSW a long time ago. I didn't finish, but I did complete one year, 15 sem hours. I ran out of money and dropped out, but back then, it was more than enough to work as a social worker, had I chosen to do so. I did a practicuum, of course, and then worked as a counselor in a group home, and had I decided to stay in the field, I was eligible for what was then the only certificate, a CSW, but would have met the current requirements for an LCSW, had they had that license back then. My daughter just finished her MSW at Loyola (Chicago).
While I chose to follow a different career, I worked as a volunteer with incarcerated men in the state of Illinois for several years, and with substance abusers for 10 in jails and prisons, etc.. I've stayed "current", because I do care, but I didn't, and don't, want to work in "the system".
So, when I discuss things with someone who claims to have an MSW, I expect relevant responses to questions about studies, the findings of those who have conducted studies, etc.. I also expect a certain writing style, and a bit of detachment, rather than emotional "I feel....therefore it is" types of "reasoning". Just to double check my perceptions with someone who I know DOES have an MSW, and is working as a therapist (under supervision) and DOES have a CSW, I showed my daughter certain postings, and there was validation of my doubt from her.
That being said, this is an online thing, and no one can know for sure, who is "real" and who a poseur, so I would never "accuse" anyone. I just said, for a variety of reasons, I have my doubts. I don't have doubts about Dr. Laura's licensing, but at that, it's not relevant. She isn't "doing therapy", nor being paid as a "therapist". She is a radio talk show host, being paid based on her value in the marketplace of "show business", supported by advertisers, based on her ratings. There are others in radio, who give advice like Dave Ramsey and Bruce Williams, about finances, but they aren't certified finanicial planners. It's about values and common sense. Same/same with Dr. Laura. If you don't like her advice, don't take it. If you don't like her show, don't listen. No biggie, she'll survive so long as enough people like her show, not based on what you think of her credentials. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 5:54:29 PM | "I also expect a bit of attachment rather than an emotional "I feel"
Not sure what you are getting at ..Please show where I said I "feel" regarding Dr. Laura's qualifications...I believe Ive been pretty clear on that.....We arent discussing any studies here but Dr. Laura's assumed qualifications to pose as a therapist so not sure what thats about either.....I am glad to hear youve done some nice work with an underserved population like the incarcerated and those in a group home....We need more people doing that, they are invaluable even thou they dont get recognized alot of the time......I can understand completely why you would not want to work in the "system"...Its pretty dysfunctional...I try to stay out of it as much as possible.. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 6:56:40 PM | Melo, did you hit the pool bottom when you went diving one day? Sounds like you did You need to lighten up, kid! You probably never even gave NPR a listen. Your mind sounds so closed and narrow. Pitiful.
NPR is interesting and has far better talk radio than any other forum out there. Car Talk is upbeat, positive and fun. Life is too short to listen to the negative drivel that is found on so many talk shows these days. Click and Clack make me laugh and I feel happy after listening to them. Why should I listen to Dr. Laura's shrill negativity when I can listen to something pleasant? It's more interesting to hear two funny guys talk about cars than it is to listen to negativity like Rush Limpuke? Believe me, I tried to listen to that drivel from Dr. Laura and Rush but had to turn it off, it was so danged negative! I miss the old days of the comedy station in Florida that played Jeff Foxworthy (you know you are a redneck if.....) and the like. Laughter is more of what we need not this venom that spews from the likes of Dr. Laura. Join me in ignoring Dr. Laura and reaching for a more entertaining program, be it Car Talk, music or a comedy station. Music is plentiful on the radio, and guess what? Music doesn't lie!!!
Let's prescribe Melo and some of the others on here who want to rant on against the "left" to forced listening of Car Talk to make them lighten up!! | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 7:04:48 PM | I'm not a great fan of Dr. Laura, and don't listen to her very often, but she has said a few sensible things over the years where I have actually agreed. Someone once called her all distraught about whether or not to spend $$$$ on her wedding or a down payment on a house. The "good Dr." did reprimend her about the fact that she was making a big deal all about a "party" and did not mention whether or not she was making a good decision/caring about the rest of her life.
On another day, my best friend and I were driving to a remote area without fm radio transmission, and we entertained ourselves by listening to her and laughing. After the caller would state the case, and then go to break, we "predicted" what Dr. Laura would say and it was: slut, tramp, whore, b..astard...etc. As I've said, she is a mixed bag.
I did meet someone once who knew her and he said that she is kinder and gentler in real life. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/9/2007 7:06:08 PM |
Car Talk is upbeat, positive and fun.
but more importantly, they actually hold the credentials to dispense the information and suggestions that they do. they serve an actual function. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/10/2007 6:57:00 AM | I can see the value of learning about cars... actually wish I knew more myself!
I also can see the value of learning more about yourself, relationships and making choices that will affect the rest of your life as well as your childrens... and I don't view that as negative at all.
It's not a matter of politics, I think its more a matter of priorities. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/10/2007 7:57:16 AM | | Learning about oneself, relationships and making choices are all positive, however, there are better ways to do that than to listen to Dr. Laura. Plenty of books are available in the bookstore that are written by better qualified people that can help you do just that. Best of all, the books are devoid of her useless negativity. Check the qualifications of the authors when you are looking to buy self-help books. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/10/2007 8:00:41 AM | | Dr. Laura is an idiot. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/17/2007 2:20:26 PM |
Ok, NPR, the darling of the left, funded by the coercive power of taxation, whereby those diametrically opposed to the programming, are forced to pay for it anyway. And, the left calls conservatives "fascists?"
Here's a clue. NPR, by and large, is lousy radio, with low ratings, mostly with shows that no one with a choice would actually pay for.
Here's a clue, not everybody has the same taste as a man near retirement age, with hatred of all things left of Genghis Khan, and as has been stated her doctorate is in physiology.
She is popular because she tells people what the audience wants to hear. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/17/2007 2:32:41 PM | Dr. Laura is an idiot.
ummm....let me see......
Dr. Laura is a millionaire.....who has a very successful business......who is managed by her husband......both whom have a very happy and SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE......whom also raised a young, emotionally healthy kid who went into the army to serve his country.......she has organized many worthwhile charities, raising and giving millions of dollars away........AND.....more importantly, is a woman who completely ADMITS to all of her past mistakes and takes accountability for making them.....thereby spreading the lessons to others whom might not listen otherwise..............
and you??????
Oh...wait.....you're on POF looking for a man.............
Whose the idiot??? | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/17/2007 3:24:32 PM | Piano Man . . .
I wish for a woman who subscribes to the teachings of Dr. Laura as she outlines it in the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands...
And I am puzzled at some of the thread responses as you are...
I find it odd that people recoil against Dr. Laura's teaching that women should treat a man with kindness, take note of and accept the differences between and women, provide moral support, give focused attention, give encouragement, forgive when necessary, engage in wholesome sexual activity with the husband, etc.
And Dr. Laura is adamant that men treat women the same way.
Dr. Laura also makes it very clear that men who abuse women, take drugs and/or stay drunk, do not support the family - squander money, or are not faithful - do not qualify for the kind treatment by women that she recommends.
Dr. Laura strongly believes men should share the housework, take care of the children, be responsible for and to the family and more . . .
I find it amazing that people jump to conclusions and go against a successful radio personality who espouses what I describe above . . .
Joe | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 7/17/2007 8:30:16 PM | Brace yourself JD, but I completely agree...
Whether you like her tone of voice or personal history does not define the wisdom of her words. I cannot tell you how many things I've come to look at "just a bit different" because of the obvious truth of what's being said.... and I don't care if she's the pope or the man from the moon -- it hit's home.
I hope everyone will overlook their prejudice to just see for themselves. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 9/3/2008 6:45:24 AM | | I think people get too wrapped up in what her "credentials" are, or things she's done in the past. Fact is that her advice is only a way to change your perspective. She rarely, if ever, gives some startling revelation to a question. I know when I get advice I could give a rat$ a$$ if someone is licensed, went to skool, or has a checkered past. What I base advice against is common sense. Does the advice actually measure up to what is right. She's not giving instructions on Quantum Physics here, people. She's giving perspective. If you tune her out because she's "abrasive" or she's not all "touchy feely" then you need to get a thicker skin. | |
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| Dr. Laura ?
Posted: 9/3/2008 8:27:40 AM | I've listened to Dr. Laura a few times and she's no different than the folks who did what they wanted in their youth and now attempt to discourage/stop others from doing the same thing. And the "wilder" a person was in their youth the more "conservative" they become in old age. Rather sickening!
The snippets of programs I have heard invariably knock sex. Of course, she didn't lack anything in that department when she was younger. She believed she was right then and she believes she's right now.
Reminds me of reformed alcoholics. They start off in life sober believing they know it all. Then they become alcoholics and believe they know it all. Then they sober up and believe they know it all.
I was wrong then, but I'm right now. They are always right, right now.
As a baby boomer I feel sorry for today's youth. At least when I was young there were a lot of young people. Today, the average population age has increased due to the number of aging baby boomers.
Now that the boomers enjoyed their youth and done all the things they wanted to do they attempt to prevent/discourage the next generation from doing so. The point they miss is each age range does things appropriate for that age.
If we had a 16 year old sitting on the living room floor with a coloring book and crayons we'd question their actions but it would be quite appropriate for a 6 year old. It's time we, as baby boomers, stop interfering in the natural activities of youth.
We had our youth. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed mine. Mistakes? Sure, just like at six I may have colored outside the lines but, hey, I have no regrets.
One of the most disturbing signs of our society is the so-called "crackdown on crime". We must jail offenders. The truth is all statistics point to a decline in crime. There is no surge. There is no crime wave but due to the aging of the population we want everyone to act old. We're robbing youth of their youth. We're trying to turn society into one big Old Folks Home.
And if we catch you again, Mr. Brown, trying to sneak into Mrs. Smith's room after hours we'll strap you to your bed! | |
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