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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:02:17 AM | | based on the number of girls that think a real man is a guy with a job, I think most women would prefer a guy with a job even if he's more white trash, than a nice guy with values and a soul who happens to be underemployed. I think women are flaky sometimes, choosing the hunky guy, or the guy with a job & his own pad, or 'the car' even if he's not as cultured, or adventurous, creative, or even a little bit of a cheater or racist. Nice guys are often overlooked because they haven't sold out. I'll have a job next year, but this year I'm in school and travelling, I'm still making savings, I just think it's sad how some women have written : if you don't have a job, don't contact me, I think it's demonstrative of how amoralistic, and decultured society has become. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:31:55 AM | I would take the sweet guy over the other any time. As long as he makes enough money that hes not with me hoping i can support him or pay for everything lol Even if that means he works at McDonalds  | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/13/2008 10:41:03 AM | A guy who would trie to be abusive towards me
would have precisely ONE chance for such behavior
and after that he would be OUT of my life.
Money or no money.
Totally beside the point.
Abuse is not acceptable.
Not to me, that is.
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DonQ
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Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 80 | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/13/2008 4:31:57 PM | So I'm guessing your low income but want women to like you because you're nice?
and income has no correlation on whether a person is nice or not, more often then not extremely low income individuals come from broken families and lack values that lead to abusive relationships. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/13/2008 4:36:28 PM | Sweet guy, low income, any day of the week! I've had enough of abusive guys, physical OR emotional. Homey ain't playin' none of that. I'll treat him like a king, but ONLY if he treats me like the queen I am. A guy who is abusive has low self-esteem himself, thinking he has to lord it over somebody to feel like a 'man'. I've always said, if anybody has to walk over someone to make their self feel big, they're mighty small. We are to compliment each other's lives, not rule over them. Puleeze!  | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 3/13/2008 4:37:28 PM |
kitsguy4u Joined: 11/19/2005 Msg: 13 view profile History Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income Posted: 5/1/2006 8  41 PM If only that was the thing that kept women with abusers. Sadly these guys get their hol don a woman and it has nothing to do with money. Seems that once women are "broken" by the abuser they stay with them and has nothing to do with money. I have seen guys that are penniless treat their girlfriends like crap. Its really sick, its like the women have been brainwashed or are under a spell. Women are often made to feel like it is their fault and that the guy doesnt mean to be an abuser they just push him too far. Its really scarry when you hear a friend tell you that. Its meant to be one of those things that happens to people far way and not in your life. Warning to all women, if a guy ever raises his hand to you then get out and NEVER return. If he does it once he will do it again and again and again until either he leaves you or he kills you. Yeah that sounds extreme but it happens far too often and it has nothing to do with social status or education.
you are so right. it is unfortunate, but true, that too many women stay in an abusive relationship. far too many that get out, either go back or latch onto another piece of shyt just like that one.
i have done over three hundred restraining orders, and over half of the women were back with the punk within three months. i had two that were actually back by the time i got the tro filed.
it is an absolute fact that you can NOT love someone who hits you, or you are a masochist. education is not a factor either, as i've dealt with several college educated women who did the same thing.
the first time should always be the last time. there is no reason whatsoever for even listening to a piece of shyt saying he's sorry, much less believing it | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 4/22/2008 7:41:13 PM | JESUS DEAR GOD WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO JUST BEING YOURSELF???
This thread makes me cringe. Its the female equivalent of men demanding all women have the charm of Natalie Portman, the breasts of Pamela Anderson and the IQ of Marie Curie.
God dang..no wonder so many of you are single...you are looking for a cartoon, not a person.
This thread makes me gag! | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 4/23/2008 9:35:25 AM | Hell count me in for that second camp, that's a sure-fire way to get laid like a ****ing railroad, all over the country.
[Edit: message above me (86?) has a valid point EXCEPT that women SAY this is what they want, but really if you come to them and say, hey, sweetheart, this is how it is - they usually accept it and go with it. So who cares what they say they want?] | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 6/12/2009 6:41:39 PM | | The women proberly stay with, the guy because 1 she loves him, or too she thinks it not worth leaving him , as their are children, and the living style will be a lot lower as far as cash at hand.P.S. just some of the reasons. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 6/12/2009 6:47:38 PM |
Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
What a stupid, dumbass question.
Gawd, thank you, I thought I was the only one.
No one is going to deliberately choose to be in an abusive relationship. Everyone THINKS they're getting the wonderful, charming guy when things start out.
It's once people are hooked that the abuse begins.
So yeah. Stupid question. If you want more women to choose you, presuming you're the adorable, sweet but lower-income guy in this equation, why not go back to school and get a degree? You can even do it online at night these days while breaking your back as a day laborer -- sorry, I mean a "SWEETACOLOGIST", a job with no health insurance benefits or future.
Then you can be the sweet, adorable and decent-income guy. | |
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missx3
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Joined: 9/21/2009
Msg: 91 | |
| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/25/2009 10:18:36 PM | The majority of women I know stayed with and are married to abusive men because they ARE wealthy and have a lot of money. Key word there: MARRIED. They get his money as marriage is a legal contract. Any woman who does not marry and puts up with abuse is a complete fool who needs to take care of herself and respect herself.
The others I know are with poorer men who are sweet, then complain about finances! Face it: Fiannces is a major ,if not the major, part of survival.
This is the reality, honey.. poverty sucks more than anything else on this planet and only people who have lived below the actual-government poverty line truly understand this. As a guest on my radio show wisely said: If you are still making minimum wage and not earning more than $7.25 an hour, you are not looking at all the ways and skills you have to make money. Poverty wrecks your health and humiliates you in a million ways. It prevents you from getting decent health care, quality of life, decent housing and decent-anything else. Most women will put up with unbelievable crap and sacrifice their children's welfare and safety, as my so-called mother did, in order to keep that lifestyle of upper middle class or wealth. It is about women's financial security and lifestyle. Men who make no money and are jerky to a woman ? Anyone who puts up with that has zero self-esteem. When women make as much money as men in the workplace, this discussion will be moot. Fact. Men who are very sweet, kind and loving and very good looking to boot can somewhat get away with being poor ( I certainly dated those), but remember.. when you marry a poor man, he is inflicting that lifestyle on you so don't complain later. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/25/2009 10:34:11 PM | Does it have to be both extremes of the spectrum? Like I am neither rich or poor, abusive or sweet...okay, I take that back. Why do people assume that just because a guy is rich and abusive, that he's also a dumbfeck? Think of all the rich men that you know...Anna Nicole's ex, Donald Trump, Hugh Hefner, The French president...they're were and are married to models! Who's ya daddy now?
Its far easier for a rich abusive guy to be sweet, than a sweet guy to be rich. | |
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missx3
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Joined: 9/21/2009
Msg: 93 | |
| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/25/2009 10:37:34 PM | About the Rhett Butler as the epitome of 'real man' comment: Actually I thought he was a bit of a player. And Jealous to boot ( 'Your Ashley Wilkes') comments abound throughout the film. His caring about his daughter was the way a real man acts, though, and the 'I don't give a damn' to her constant maniupulations was also good.
Not to mention threatening his wife to crush her skull by putting his hands on the side of her head.. that's a 'real' man? That is anything BUT a real man.. and carrying her up the stairs for sex when she wasn't interested.. excuse me? Not a real man, at all. | |
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missx3
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Joined: 9/21/2009
Msg: 94 | |
| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/25/2009 10:40:15 PM | | Well I do have the breasts of Anderson and the IQ of Curie, and men do not like that, not the ones I have met, anyway. As for Portman, don't know enough about her to think her charming or not. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/27/2009 8:27:43 AM | I have a friend that has had both. She first had the really sweet guy for 3 years, we all loved him, however, he was a deadbeat. Worked when he had to, always gave everything to her, he was Mr Fix it, Mr cook for her. She's the lawyer making rediculous amounts of money and working 16 hours a day.
Then for one reason or another she dumped her great guy we all loved for a jerk. A jerk that was going places. He had an even bigger money making job than her, which is hard to do. he published a book that is being turned into a movie. They've dated for 2 years, we all hate him, just because he's a real jerk. If you get into any dispute with him, its always... well what's your job? How much cash do you make a year? Well I make this much! He also really wants her to have sex with her female friends. He's very open about it.
But ya know what? She's happier with him. He contributes interest to the relationship. They always fly off and do stuff, because they can afford it. The jerk comes home and he has something to tell her instead of the low income guy that never had anything to tell her, but at least he'd fix the kitchen sink. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/27/2009 1:24:14 PM | If all she wants is your money... marry her; she'll get atleast half on the way out.
If all a guy is good for is money, is like saying all a girl is good for is sex.
I dont see either one of those making it past a hot summer vacation. | |
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| Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:53:48 PM | this whole thread is wrong because of one simple premise. Most women will tell you that the want the nice guy that treads them right and all the blah, blah, blah and then the meet one guy that rocks their world and it turns out to be the controlling jerk that treads them like sh it and all they said goes out the window.
So women need to look at who they actually attract instead of what they pretend to like. | |
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