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 joefixit

Joined: 11/17/2004
Msg: 16
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Bush shows respect to veterans by denying them compensation
Posted: 2/16/2005 12:39:23 AM
Medic:

You ignorance knows no bounds does it? Let me explain this - and I'll use small words for you OK? Are you assuming I am my credibility is in question because you state it so. You have no formal education, you support the idiotic neo-con dogma (torture, indefinite detentions, anti-Bill or Rights, Pro-war and DU supporter), and have no experience actually having to put the DU rounds down range - as some of my patients have. You have no friggin' clue.

Whatever. If proof to you demands so much more evidence than that which is presented, then there can be no reaching you. That is why they call it a syndrome meatbag! Because it is not one particular pathogenic factor (BTW do you want me to explain what that means?).

I spent 8 years in college learning the same medical courses that MD's learn (minus pharmacology), specializing in Kinesiology and Neurology, and in fact my college hours were 400 more hours than your average medical school. I think we can rule out the uneducated "psychic" like credibility. Speaking of credibility, do you have any what-so-ever?
 CEC93013

Joined: 12/28/2004
Msg: 17
Bush shows respect to veterans by denying them compensation
Posted: 2/16/2005 1:17:52 AM
NEWS FLESH

If you are between the ages of 18 and 34 and you live through your future visit to the Middle East in the company of The United States Armed Forces,then you too will become a vet,and you too will have the pleasure of fending for your self,because according to bushco your Vetrans Administration ain't going to pay for a friggin thing...(-;

So if your 29 sport'n Long Hair and you sound like a commie pinko,I hope you love olive drab,because your going to be wearing it very soon...

Enjoy
 joefixit

Joined: 11/17/2004
Msg: 18
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Posted: 2/16/2005 1:22:38 AM
Hey CEC,

love the pig picture. Funny and not-funny post too.
 joefixit

Joined: 11/17/2004
Msg: 19
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Posted: 2/16/2005 1:30:44 AM
Torture is as torture does. Torture is a Godless, sick, anti-humanist thing to do no matter who does it. Why does the Pentagon and Alberto (new Attorney General) want pre-authorized torture anyways? It is against the US code of regulations and the Geneva conventions (designed to protect service people in case they are caught too).

Who trained Saddam Hussein? CIA and paramilitary forces of the US of Course.
 Handsome_n_honest

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 2/16/2005 1:35:20 AM
CIA did. And thaught the torture techniques they use.
 MikeJ

Joined: 1/30/2005
Msg: 21
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Posted: 2/16/2005 1:50:33 AM
The mere fact that the UN does not authorize an activity does not mean that it is illegal.


The UN charter states that any use of force between member states not authorized by a UNSC resolution is illegal. I should also point out that congress ratified the UN charter and is obligated to honour its international agreements as per the constitution. Basically, the US took the UN charter into US law (under the constitution) when became a UN member state. Not all nations have explicit legislation that does so, but the US is one of the ones that does.

This is where the argument of international law comes from. I am not advocating that we obey the UN Charter to the letter and all the time for a variety of reasons, but from an academic point of view it does exist (for the signatory nations) and technically the no-fly zones were illegal. Then again, so was intervention in Kosovo.

In any case, the real question is whether or not Saddam's internal war against the rebels justified outside intervention. If such humanitarian concerns do justify outside intervention, then we can justify the no-fly zones. If such humanitarian concerns do not justify outside intervention, then we can not justify the no-fly zones. Since about every nation in the world has been on both sides of that issue in recent history, I'm not even going to dwell any further into it.


France, for example, sees fit to tromp all around its African colonies doing whatever it pleases.


If you are referring to the Ivory Coast, I believe France intervened at the invitation of both the government and the rebels. That neither side was happy after the fact is not relevent. I am going by memory here though, so I might be wrong.



Well, yeah.... It's kinda hard to stand idly by and watch 5,000 people being slaughtered by mustard-gas.


He didn't gas them after the Gulf War. When he gassed civilians the US was giving him political protection (because the US hated Iran more) and resisting tabled UNSC resolutions to condemn Iraq for the use of gas.

The US protected Saddam for a while, then the international pressure and the evidence of the act became so strong that the US caved in and Iraq was reprimanded.

Back to the Gulf War - he brutally crushed the rebellion, but it was a rebellion after all. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't have done anything for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
 bluemeanie

Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 22
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Posted: 2/16/2005 2:51:19 AM
whatever happened to Saddam anyways? i heard Richard Hoaglands website claimed that Bush and Saddam share the same bloodline and that qualifies them to run countries through their secret society-hmmm well,they both look goofy and kinda inbred
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