| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/13/2008 7:06:58 PM | | I find pilots to be very sexy men, but also very lonely men. Their job demands decipline and a tremendous amount of their time. I have been trying to have a relationship with one for the past three months and there just isn't any time to be a couple. They are away for days at a time between weather delays, capacity of passengers on planes, it is very hard to have a relationship with a pilot , but lets cut them a little slack. They are not all bad. It just takes a certain women to want to spend so much time without her man. We all have choices that we make in life, to be with or not to be with. Life is too short not to be with. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/14/2008 3:31:08 AM | hehe I bet Bruce d1ckinson isnt short of female attention!!! or dates. Or lonely.
How ****ing cool must that be? Front man for the best rock band in the world, and fly your band around all over the place. Brilliant. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/14/2008 2:56:02 PM | | I worked for United Airlines and I met most of the pilots that came in on my shift. They all seemed like down to earth and very nice men and women. The only problem they seemed to have is that all the young female gate agents, at the hub I worked at, were always throwing themselves at the male pilots. Some seemed flattered but other seems annoyed. These guys are always looking for a woman in every port, so to speak. If they're treated with respect, they give respect in return. I've never dated one but that was due to conflicting schedules. If a pilot asks you out and the schedules work for you both...go for it. They're incredibly interesting people. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/14/2008 3:04:22 PM | | Nothing wrong with pilots. I was working for one the week before last & rather than face a 2 1/2 hour drive each way to go work on one of his older aircraft he flew me there & back in his Lear which only took 17 minutes each way. I think I could easily get used to it.. :) | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/14/2008 3:57:30 PM |
Well just remember it's the person not the occupation. I'm sure there are people full of themselves that are in different lines of work.
I don't disagree that there are a$$holes in aviation, but I'm a pilot by profession and I'm a nice guy :)
So I don't think it's fair to judge people by what they do for a living.
True, but some jobs attract or demand people with big egos.
I used to be electronics technologist/computer programmer. In both careers, employers preferred candidates with massive egos. Often, you were called upon to solve tough problems, or seemingly impossible problems. "Knowing" you could handle any situation thrown at you was a requirement.
If you were humble, the chances are that you would not be hired. It would be perceived as a lack of self-confidence.
Not to mention that if you didn't have a massive ego, you would be eaten alive by those who did. It was the nature of the industry. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/14/2008 3:59:07 PM | i have a friend who is a stewardess..she dated a pilot she really fell for..they had agreed to see only each other..til he accidently texted a message intended for one of his other gf's to her..this same stewardess sees a local female gynecologist who's husband is also a pilot w one of the major airlines..My friend tells me that the gynecologist is very worried her husband may be unfaithful because he is away for long periods and surrounded by lovely stewardesses like my friend ( the gynecologist asks my friend if there is much dating between pilots and stewardesses, and of course my friend doesn't want to worry her, but of course the answer is "yes".. )
As for arrogance amongst pilots, Thom Wolfe wrote The Right Stuff - about the early space program ,when they were taking jet pilots and training them to be astronauts. The Right Stuff refers to the sense of infalllibility and complete confidence in self that the pilots had to have to be accepted as astronauts... In those days, the government was testing supersonic flight, with the X-15 and the like.. The death rate amongst test pilots was 50%, due to mechanical failure. Yet the men kept climbing into prototype planes and pushing them higher and farther and faster, even though they knew the longer they flew the more likely they would die. Whenever the pilots heard of one of their own "augering in" ( their word for crashing), they rationalized it as pilot error..not the actual mechanical error.. saying to themselves: " that wouldnt happen to me.. he obviously didnt have the right stuff, and i do!!...I wouldnt have died in that situation"..This sort of self deception was necessary for the pilots to be in the right mental shape to keep going back to such a dangerous job. So, a certain amt of arrogance was encouraged and expected from pilots. It was considered The Right Stuff. I dont think its appropriate flying todays planes, and i dont think it was a good measure of a man even back then..Chuck Yeager ,test pilot extraordinaire and WW ll ace, was confident without the arrogance, but was passed up as an astronaut because he didnt have a college degree.. a necessity for the sqeaky clean image the space program was trying to create for itself at the time..i prefer great men to be humble in order to truely qualify as great..but historically one can see how arrogance was promoted and expected amongst pilots.. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/15/2008 11:55:52 AM | Chuck Yeager is a hero to me, and I like that he was a confident pilot without being arrogant.
I have found that alot of the younger airline pilots, particularly ones flying for small commuter airlines, tend to be brash and overconfident. I don't care for flying on regional airlines after having some bad experiences while working in the aviation industry. I'll stick to the mainline airlines or I'll drive I could have taken a commuter flight from Fort Lauderdale to Key West, but I drove instead, and had a better time !! I have a hard time trusting a 19-year old fresh faced kid who may have "bought" his job instead of earning it, which is fairly common in the regional airline industry. I trust myself in a car more!!
One of these days I will buy my own aircraft, so I'll just fly myself!! I do miss recreational flying and would like to get back into it. I was a flight instructor for 12 years and enjoyed that. Unfortunately I let my CFI lapse. I will renew my CFI someday at a flight school that I've known and trusted for years.
Anyone reading this who flies: fly safe!! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/15/2008 6:31:18 PM | I dated an airline pilot and he was great, but the hours were brutal. If you want to settle down and have a family, it can be tough. Every time we were got together it was like falling in love again, which sounds wonderful, but is actually a bit draining.
He was not arrogant at all. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/16/2008 5:30:23 PM | One of my ex's was a test pilot during Vietnam. Not an arrogant personality at all but very confident and impulsive! We broke up when he had to move to CA for a job. Anyway, these guys are getting the crap beat out of them financially today. They use to make in the 6 figures easily, but now it's frequently $50,000 a year. It's not the glamour job that it use to be.
Having taken some flying lessons it's a very, very difficult occupation.
Living like they do, like gypsies, it's a lousy job without the cash rewards. And, yes, a lot of them are just on the hunt constantly for another lover--everywhere they land. Just get the guys cell phone, track the number down, track down the home location, track down the land records and see if there is a wife on the house that he owns, too. Weeeee! I recently did that with one guy out of "New Hampshire", so he said. It was in Kansas, actually. His wife was listed on the house.
Doctors and lawyers are frequently arrogant, too.
Please note, a lot of pilots would never, never list their occupation on a singles site because of THE GROUPIES. You know who you are!!!!! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/16/2008 6:43:06 PM | | I loved my soon to be ex airline pilot husband of 18 years very much until I found out he was having a 10 month affair with one of his flight attendants. He was not arrogant but just distrustful. Think about it he, he travel to different cities 5 out of 7 days, leading a double life so to say is very easy to do with a schedule like that. Guess he really wanted to join the mile high club! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/17/2008 1:26:56 AM | i dated a flight attendant and was told enough stories about pilots as flgiht attendants often date them as well. she even got her ass pinched by edward kennedy and told her she couldn't do anything about it (this is about the politicians who get their share of bimbos as well). I talked with other flight attendants as well, notably one that i tutored. these guys are like mini rockstars in what they get..it's all dependent on how women choose.
the pilots are often termed nasty, demanding, perverted, but women still are fascinated by them as they are of any position where the man appears to be in an elevated position...this is what needs to be changed. if women considered all men on character and to a much lesser extent, their job, AN INSIGIFICANT thing in one's life as it's a means of making money, as it does not tell what type of person he is, or very little. When i was unemployed (and still accumulating money at a rate more than many employed persons), a tree cutter, plumber, scientist, programmer, it should not matter as I AM who I am regardless of what i am doing for money. I can do one thing one day and another occupation the next to purposely confuse a woman so she'd never know what the heck to do with me if she needed to rely on my occupation. It simply does not matter...it's the MAN, not the occupation that really matters.
***the question in this thread really could be: what do you think of how men who are inordinantly admired by women behave? Simple answer: when one is given too much power by the willing relinquishing of it from many, there will be a great tendency to abuse.*** ...and you still can't stop women from making mistakes that could be easily prevented... | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 3:46:01 PM | actualized:
I was a female in rock bands with packs of men when it was a novelty. Dealing with those guys was REALLY a bad scene. Talk about "groupies" and the pressure to conform. Ditto with record executives! There isn't a word to describe the arogance except narcistic. I'm sure women don't have the same problems that I did years ago. I hope not.
Certain occupations exalt men to a god-like status. A woman's commodity always seems to be her beauty and nothing else. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:03:25 PM | [quote[I was a female in rock bands with packs of men when it was a novelty. Dealing with those guys was REALLY a bad scene. Talk about "groupies" and the pressure to conform. Ditto with record executives! There isn't a word to describe the arrogance except narcissistic.
Thanks for the up date enigma how birds of a feather flock together. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:17:40 PM | where is the message being told to young women to not fall into the same traps that women before them did? it does not have to be that the route of mistakes has to happen first...that is an ordinary lame way of going about life. i have faith that humans will get their act together someday.
i know of a guy who located the drugs and the women for musicians back in the 1970's. it was easy...women are easy to find for such things: "hey you, yeah you sexy. How would you like to go back stage with so-and-so? Oh yeah, let me get my other girlfriends to come along! OK, but let me tell you, you have to service me to get to them first. Well, hmmm, OK".
I can imagine all the 15 yr old girls who mess up with rockstars. I personally met a woman who told me she was 14 years old while dating a guy in a very famous rock band that I won't mention here. I saw a gold record hanging in her living room and her photo on an album cover. I may have done a little something with her but that doesn't matter ..she was 40 yrs old when it happened - she was still so stuck on her "ACCOMPLISHMENT" of being the guy's main squeeze!!!! She even knew the guy was screwing every girl he could get a hold of while on tour - she was just so PROUD to be with him because of his PROFESSION! Such stuff sickens me that men will even take advantage of girls like this but they do and the girls keep throwing themselves at the guys. I wonder why police allow this stuff to occur - you'd think someone would be enraged with all the statutory rape, but I guess we as a society just think some things have to occur and there's no way of preventing it...
you older women can help change how society runs. teach your younger female friends/family all you can. mention to them how women are wired in such a way that they'll tend to look for the things in men that does not adequately measure him as a person. tell them the important characteristics to look it. show them they are no better of a person if they associated with something that seems big in their eyes. Also tell them that as a woman they'll want to not pay attention as they'll think they were mature from age 11 and know it all.
pleasantness, appreciativeness, helpfulness and so on, after a small amount of physical attraction is the key, not profession, hair style, clothing style, color of eyes, zodiac sign etc. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:41:48 PM | | Ratero-park-man - The reason these women don't like pilots is probably because they tried to seduce them and the polits wanted nothing to do with them. Most of them are also married and probably have girlfriends in every state. Same as captains f cruise ships - they have someone in every port is right. I have seen it with my own eyes. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:42:07 PM |
Chuck Yeager ,test pilot extraordinaire and WW ll ace, was confident without the arrogance, but was passed up as an astronaut because he didnt have a college degree.
Yeager may have been "confident without the arrogance" 50 years ago, but it's well known in aviation circles these days that he is the most arrogant ***hole anyone could have the misfortune to meet.
There's a pilot bar near here where he used to have a "seat of honor" at the bar. Thats not the case now, last time he walked in there most people got up & left. He's not been back there since. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/18/2008 4:55:09 PM | Airline pilots have a job that is looked upon with esteem ... kind of like a jet fighter pilot!
So its a glamorous job.
For me the concern would be as it would dating a Navy guy, "A gal in every port" sort of scenario ... that is what would deter me from dating an airline pilot... | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/20/2008 12:32:29 PM | I have known several pilots out of O'hare. I consider it extremely unfortunate that I met them. I have never heard anything good about being with a pilot and my meeting confirmed what I have heard in the past. The pilots I met were arrogant and put no worth on woman outside of sex. The AA pilots I met hang around in a pack like they were still in high school I don't think they ever existed on an individual level in any area of their lives. They were actually in my home and destroyed almost everything including my clothing and furniture. They acted like pigs while portraying an impressive image that really does not exist. They were extremely arrogant and only had concern for themselves. The group I met were always together and hard up for quality women. They also search through luggage for dirty underwear. Yes, they were disgusting to say the least. Because they are exalted at the airport they feel they are entitled to that treatment when they leave the airport just because they are "pilots". I met a hotel manager in the downtown Chicago Loop area and I found out that a group of them were booted out of her hotel and asked to never return.
Some carry a "rape" attitude towards women. Barbara Walters had a program on this several years ago. The group I met are extremly abusive to woman and believe women should do what they are told and when they are told. I am sure there are decent ones out there, but I doubt I would ever get involved with one.
As far as RESPECT going to them, they should have to earn respect through their actions like everyone else. A uniform means nothing. This pack that I ran across told me they don't even consider the passengers when they are flying, they have no concern for them whatsoever and they continued to tell me that they can commit crimes and get away with it because they are "pilots" and no one would ever believe a victim.
I read an article the other day about a woman who has been married to a pilot for 27 years, she can't wait to get away from him and loves it when he is out of the house three days a week. She said when he is home it is extreme misery. She can't wait to leave him and find a "low maintenance" place of her own where her kids can visit. Although she has been married to him for 27 years, she has not had sex with him in 19.
After what I experienced, I will stay far away from the airport and pilots alltogether. My opinion of them is low. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/20/2008 9:29:51 PM | You apparently haven't met some women airline pilots--one of my favorite pals is a woman who flies for a major airline, and she's a wonderful person. Sorry you had to run into those nasty brats. They are an embarrassment to even people like me who fly for fun. I wouldn't even WANT to be associated with such bird-turds as those "men".
My flying fantasy would be to have a Cessna Citation, my favorite little jet, and have stickers everyone sees when they come aboard: "No Snobs", and "Dress Code: Sweatpants, sneakers, T-shirt and a smile!" I've always loved the idea of flying a jet, and wearing sweats while doing so! No epaulettes or ties for me, no way no how!!!! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 12:05:38 PM | I agree there are some great pilots out there, just not the pack of morons I ran into. I have a friend whose brother is a pilot and he is great. The group that I ran across hates women airline pilots, in fact, smart women in general. These guys were just bad news and an embarassment not just to the airlines, but to men everywhere.
Have fun flying the Cessna! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 2:48:24 PM | | Okay. So what about Air Force pilots. I dated one and he turned out to be one of the most narcissistic men I have ever met! His marriage proposal to me was "Help me take care of my kids now without the ring. That is the only way I will marry you." (Sure you will.) This was after he griped at me and threw me out of his house in the middle of the night when I was having low blood sugar and just needed something to eat. He was like "Get it yourself" when my hands are shaking and I was about to pass out. This was after a weekend when I had taken care of his 2 year old son the whole week-end. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 3:29:46 PM | Sounds like that guy was a twit and a self centered son of a (unprintable). Not good!
I do have to say that I had an ex Air Force pilot as my flight instructor, and he had the patience of an angel. He was a wonderful teacher and a kind hearted person. Sadly, idiots like the abovementioned turkey give a bad name to so many who are so wonderful.
My friend John, who passed away a few years back, also served in the Air Force and was like a father figure to me after my Dad died. He flew tankers in the Air Force. Another instructor I had for my commercial pilot training was an ex Greek Air Force tanker pilot with a zany sense of humor! Others come to mind who were also very supportive of me when I decided to learn to fly.
People like that "man" above, and arrogant cops for example make so many countless others who are wonderful people look bad just because of their jobs. As for cops, I have wonderful memories of policemen who were kind to me in times of need~~ a dear South Carolina state trooper changed my tire for me after my tire burst on a lonely stretch of highway. You just can't lump ALL pilots and cops as bad people because of a few rotten apples. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 5:56:30 PM | | Yeh, major matcho-burgerism is a real drag no matter where a women runs into it. A wall of sexism. At moments, chewing your foot off in the trap and running down the street on a stump. | |
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