| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 6:50:36 PM | | Thank you, Designing Woman for your comfort. That really helped me because I just recently broke up with this jerk of a nutcase and it still hurts. I doubt he hurts at all being that he has no heart, but I do. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:17:57 PM |
Please note, a lot of pilots would never, never list their occupation on a singles site because of THE GROUPIES. You know who you are!!!!!
We have groupies? Yep. Unfortunatley.
2 types here..
SNAGs (Student Naval Aviator Groupies) that go after the 22-25 year old student pilots. They try to latch on to the academy types mostly, as a lot of them are "women stupid" from being sequestered away from the real world for 4
years.
NAGs (Naval Aviator Groupies). They tend to go after the older winged aviators. Tend to be older and looking for a man to take care of their kids.
Not all women are SNAG/NAG here, but there are a lot of women who seem to have "SNA/NA" as a requirement to date.
That being said, the groupies don't like me. I married one back when I was an SNA and am "wise" to them now via an expensive "education"  | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 7:31:55 PM | I dated a pilot. It was fun to fly united.
He was much older and much arrogant. I can remember him saying that I would NEVA know everything that he knew And yet I said yes to his proposal.
But I got away I got away. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 8:00:22 PM | Pilots are a different type of personality that most people likly never meet. Some would say they are crazy types that do things and travel in dangerous medium. The pilot is a highly technical and fast thinking and reacting person totally under control in most situations. Their life depends on it, at least in their minds.
Suppose it is misconstrued that one would look aloof to non aviation people. They can also feel more important than other people with the sort of attention they get from the greater population.
Not everyone is perfect and pilots like to feel in control. Controling and aloof men might turn off the majority of women. Once you can cut through that layer you might be able to reach a near normal person.
Always be safe when dating. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/23/2008 9:35:55 PM | | I was a flight attendant for a couple years. Like any occupation there are people who are genuine and nice and others who are arrogant. While I was working, I've seen both. Many of them were flirts and you heard all kinds of stories. But I met a lot of great pilots and somedays I miss my job terribly. It was a lot of fun! (at the same time though if you were stuck with an arrogant pilot, those trips sucked! But they were few and far between!) | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/24/2008 12:51:35 PM | Personally, if the woman can't deal with the way a person acts, move on.
If she can't deal with his proffesion? Move on.
Pilots (most of em) have wanted to fly since childhood.
It is for personal gratiification.
And no, not all are arrogant, that is a broad generalisation,
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/24/2008 9:54:56 PM | NoMexShrek:
Re: Groupies, etc.
Sorry you went through this nasty, stupid divorce scene. There are trophy wives and trophy husbands. You were the later. Only a narcistic personality would enjoy that crap. There's nothing to support a healthy relationship when the rose petals fall to the ground.
The 2nd to last man who tried to make me a trophy wife was told that "he was useless to me because he couldn't handle a chain saw; besides, living in Harbor Towers penthouse [on the ocean in Boston big $$$$$] would give me claustrophobia."
The most recent one, elderly and a former F15-JAG, etc. was even crazier. Both Federal attys. Who can make this stuff up, right?
In the end, we really can't lie to ourselves or each other and have peace of mind, now can we? | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 6/25/2008 4:36:32 AM | When pilots have schedules with overnights they have opportunity and time.
They oftentimes create that close knit relationship with the flight crew and spend ample amounts of time in the bar socializing and killing time.
Now the combination evolves into opportunity, time and alcohol.
Connect the dots. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 7/14/2008 2:56:12 AM | I have had the good fortune to meet a woman airline pilot and wish it could have worked out... but she had other priorities. She was very smart and beautiful too... the guys used to say 'Barbie is flying the plane...' - and she was a self made pilot, starting out in general aviation and taking all the training herself, without the benefit of assistance from the government. I still think of her often.
alas
Jerry
Maui | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:10:22 PM | My stepdad's family are all pilots. In fact they all have cliffhanger haircuts. They all talk like Donnald Trump and Christmas with them is hostile, because they're all in charge of their planes, so they try to be in charge of the family too.
Now that is just his family, but there are 8 pilots in the family, he is even a pilot, but that's not his full time job. Oddly enough, they all married petite blondes.
One of them, my step dad's cousin is really open about how he has a woman in every city. His wife knows it too, she's not happy with it, but she deals with it, cause he makes six figures a year. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:20:01 PM | I guess i must be a different type of pilot. I do not have a plane, so i am not in charge of it.
I do not make 6 figures a year. If i did, would i be on a free dating site?
And i doubt i will marry a petite blond. At this point, i would probably be happy with a big blonde.  | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:22:53 PM | | The one that makes six figures a year is a trans oceanic pilot going from Chicago, NY, Florida to London. He told me last Christmas he is writing a book called, "Jet-Set Pilot Playboy." At least his wife and kids found out from him instead of the book. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/4/2008 3:39:14 PM | Airline Pilots are a dying breed, it doesn't hold the grandeur that it used to, now they are just over paid bus drivers. We had three pilots apply for Firefighting positions this year. They have no more game than any other profession. JMO | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/4/2008 4:02:03 PM | Pilots,
I have many pilot aquaintances and friends and have dated two female airline pilots. Comair and delta.
In my experience airline pilots are (in general) arrogent and****. And have little or no concept of fidelity. The women are worse than the men.
Basically the pilots will sleep with any poor fool who is enamored by the pilot mistique.
The women pilots I know both many times commented that they held 50+ lives in their hands. True but so do school bus drivers for minimum wage!
I am a private pilot and also build airplanes. I have had no less than 3 airline pilots in my planes and have found them barely competant to incompetant.
I do want to emphasise this is just my personal experience I'm sure there are many pilots who have both ethics and flying skill but given a choice I would avoid them. Both mail and female. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/5/2008 8:48:21 AM | Wow holding 50+ lives in their hands does sound a little arrogant.
I should bring up that phrase at my next Christmas with my stepdad's family. I'll get to hear things like well I flew 200+ people while you flew 200+ boxes and crates! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 9/5/2008 9:25:04 AM | | airline pilots are just glorified bus drivers. there's nothing more boring than flying a plane that basically flies itself. it is the most amount of money that you can get for the least amount of work. that's probably why some pilots are arrogant. however i have had lots of pilot buddies and some of them are still flying the heavies, or retired. overall, they are very cool and straightforward, fun people in my experience. however, most of these guys are old school and learned contour flying while dodging NVA bullets. i wouldn't be surprised if a larger number of the more modern crop of ATPs really just get off on wearing the gold stripeys on their jacket. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 11/22/2008 7:14:16 AM | | I don't have one positive thing to say about airline pilots (men) I dated one for 4 years. They think they are superior to everyone else. They are very selfish. They cannot commit. I could go on and on. If all that was left in this world were pilots.... I would stay single for the rest of my life! | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 11/22/2008 7:30:26 AM | Pilots, Gods of the sky, at least they think so and so do the people on the plane. I have dated pilots and every time I meet one I say to myself, nope not again. But I do, why because they know how to have fun, are adventerous, confident, calm under pressure and in general really great people, once you get past the God syndrome. And the free trips are kinda a nice perk. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 11/22/2008 9:27:10 AM | I know one pilot who just had his 25th wedding anniversary this fall, but the all the
single ones I have known have all been on sexcapades at their ports of call, if you know what I mean. Its not comforting.
I love aviation, and understand many of the work issues pilots face, but for me personally, it would be hard for the trust to be there. | |
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| I have a question regarding Airline Pilots and dating
Posted: 11/26/2008 9:59:37 AM | I'm new in POF. I was waiting to see if any other airline pilot response that are flying the line now.
This thread is by far the most gross generalization of a profession in the lowest form.
First of all to the ladies........ You do raise a good question about dating a airline pilot.
I am really sorry that you ran into arrogant, full of themselves pilots & it didn't workout. But like vjr43, because of her dating experience with one pilot, would it be fair to put all aviators in the same scale? It's almost like saying all blondes are stupid & all brunettes are confused. Most of I read here is a lot of I heard this & I heard that.
Most of the generaliztion here are based on pilots that are flying since 60's. Such as, girlfriends in various cities, god like syndrom etc. It is true they are dying breed.
Time has changed since then.
One word, Technology...
Cellphones, emails, text messages.
Let me give you some true inside details about airline pilots of now.
He/she is young college grad, listens to ipod, blogger, highly computer literate, exercise & eats organic every chance they gets, lots of hair gel, calls each other "Dude" & calls the superiors "Big Dawg", text messaging their loved ones at all time from the****it (not supposed to), in their laptop every chance they get, addicted to playstation or other video games consoles in their day off. Always playing pranks, or having a laugh.
Now about their wives/girlfriends/husbands......
These girls are very independent, not NEEDY type, loves yoga/ pilates/ excersise, massages, also always on-line & computer literate. Always in constant communication with the spouses by text. They have their own thing going on.
They are able to track on-line everything about the pilots. Such as schedules, how many legs he/she flown, payperiods & pay hours, where overnights, hotels, expenses.
They often rides in the aircraft that husband flying & stays in the hotel at the end of the day. They become friends with flight attendants & hence become real familiar with the gossips. These wives knows all the gossip that goes around in that airline by befriending the flight attendants. Gossip like whoes cheating, divorce etc. My ex knew more about my company inside gossips then I did. I used a debit card for all my purchases & she knew where & what I'm buying. Only cash I'd carry to tip the hotel van drivers. No I've never cheated on my ex. And proud of that.
Having said that, if a guy wants to cheat or lie, he'll do it . No matter what profession he is in. Before I became an airline pilot, I was flight instructing in a highly recognized Florida flight school. I have taught Dentist, doctors, attorneys, big rig truck driver, nurses, Law enforcement officers, son of a Fire chief in south florida to become airline pilots. Some made it, some did not. I learned from each idividuals that in any line of work there are all types charecter of people. There are good & jerks in every professions. My fire fighter friend is divorced now because he had not one but two girlfriends in the same city. Same goes for a lot of cops. I'm not even go into details of the attorneys & law firms. Cheaters are everywhere.
But there are more guys that kisses their wives bye, goes to work, calls always to tell her that he misse her /loves her, be faithful, end of the shift runs home to her. He feels guilty, because she's taking care of the kids & house by herself, dishwasher broke while he's away, can't attend in daughters recital, but he calls & tells her he's sorry. And do it again next day. They try attending funeral & weddings & other social functions just like anyone.
The one thing I want to emphasize about airline pilots that everyone here completetly overlooked & ignored is TRAINING. Lets put it this way....it is not easy by any means.
Just to get to the point of applying for a job as a pilot is long, very very expensive & hard. Ask any pilots of how many certificates, ratings, hours needed before you can even think about working for the airlines. All of my students of various other professions stated that this is by far most challenging thing they ever done. Then comes the airline selection process & airline training. In every class not everyone makes it. there are always training washout. The intesity of training in the scale of 1 to 10, is 15. Airline gives you only minimum time to complete a series of training event. After you are in line flying you have to do profficiency check 6 month for captains, 12 month for first officers. These times pilots wives leaves them alone. Beacuse pilots can not have a bad day in simulator & in line. It's a must pass event. Same goes for Air traffic controllers. Also there are routine medical checkups.
As like cops, soldiers, firefighters & other dangerous jobs, pilots has to learn to leave the work behind when they comes home. Some can't do it. That's where the problem starts as arrogant, full of themselves issues. Military pilots has this problem more so.
If you ask any pilot "who is the best pilot in the world?". If his/her answer is anything other then "I am", military or a airline do not want this person in the control of a multi millon dollar jet. They looks at him/her as an liability. Pilots must have confidence in their skills & must demonstate that. That confidence if carried out in 24/7, then it becomes arrogance. About God like syndrome, we have inside jokes for that. We do have pilots like that. And they are labeled with nick names.
Sabre wrote here airline pilots are glorified bus drivers etc, etc. Those words came from the airline pilots association. Sabre, stop plagiarizing. We pilots say that to general public to make them feel like it's not a big deal. planes fly by itself now. so, no one become nervous.
As for me, I don't have a single picture or an item related to aviation in my place. I was a handyman prior to aviation. A lot of my neighbors thinks I'm still a handyman or plumber. Because They are always borrowing my tools & I'm always helping them building or repairing all sorts of things.
A lot of pilots that I know of are the same. Nobody I know of are arrogant in any way. Some of them are happily married some divorced as I am.
So, ladies, pilots are human. They got the same qualities as any non flying men. They do watch football, drink beer & raise hell just like any guys. They do like having fun. They do get mad at times. Only thing seperates them are, as like Cops, Firefighters & soldiers they kiss their loved ones to go to work, and they are well aware of the fact that it could be the last time.
To the guys that puts down airline pilots ......
you don't know jack! Sounds to me all you are jealous. Go ahead & try. See how far you go trying flying a heavy jet. Guys like you can't even make it through Flight screening, let alone flying a jet. That's right ....grapes are sour! if you know the story.
This whole thread was about dating a pilot not about flying skill.
No one else here more offensive towards pilots then this gentleman below. Why? because he's a fellow aviator. I can see someone non aviation background saying this negative stuff, but him being a pilot? Regardless of what You fly, Hot air balloon, Glider, ultralite, bushplane, paraglider, space shuttle, military jets, any kinds with wings, we all regards them as a fellow aviator. you are still a pilot. Before you put down & gereralize fellow pilots, have some dignity & integrity of yourself.
This is from bigmike20021
Pilots,
I have many pilot aquaintances and friends and have dated two female airline pilots. Comair and delta.
In my experience airline pilots are (in general) arrogent and****. And have little or no concept of fidelity. The women are worse than the men.
Basically the pilots will sleep with any poor fool who is enamored by the pilot mistique.
The women pilots I know both many times commented that they held 50+ lives in their hands. True but so do school bus drivers for minimum wage!
I am a private pilot and also build airplanes. I have had no less than 3 airline pilots in my planes and have found them barely competant to incompetant.
I do want to emphasise this is just my personal experience I'm sure there are many pilots who have both ethics and flying skill but given a choice I would avoid them. Both mail and female.
Bigmike20021, are you joking? You are comparing a aluminum tube full of people & highly flammable jet fuel on the wings that screams down the runway 145-160 knots with the chance of couple of dozens things can go wrong with school bus???
Really? school bus can pull over to the side if anything goes wrong. School bus never have a explosive decrompression or bleed air leak. And it don't go mach .75 . If I even tell you some of the things happens during flights, some of you would stop flying altogether.
Are you really a pilot?
you are calling airline pilots arrogant but other hand your saying they are "barely competant to incompetant". You can't even spell competent. Do us a favor, google has a free spell checker.
How about you go on to their jets to see how you perform., as for the skill & knowledge goes, you are a kindergardner in aviation with dangerous attitude. Because we are all still learning. Learning never stops. I also own a twin beech in korl. I still teach every chance I get. I was the guy that would give you a white or a pink slip after a flight check. I am so sorry that DPE gave you a checkride.
Once again you are still a fellow pilot, regardless of what you fly. You know better then anyone here that after flying a jet, coming high & fast, it's very hard to get in a general aviation plane & fly. That's why FBO has CFI's to check out us in a light plane.
But you did say it's from your personal experince. I appreciate your disclaimer though. | |
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