| short women/tall men Posted: 11/20/2008 6:28:25 PM | The Steve Penner article seems to ring true about the harsh realities of today's society but I can recall when these rules didn't seem to apply:
When I was in my early twenties, I dated a many women whose height ranged from 4' 11" all the way up to 6'1". Being only 5'6" myself I was quite surprised when I was able to date and even have a long term relationship with a woman significantly taller than me. Height never seemed to bother either one of us and we both enjoyed each other's company. I dropped off the dating scene to concentrate on work and family matters and eventually found this shift is values when I decided to rejoin the world of dating in my thirties.
Today it's society that seems to have convinced women that only tall men are worthy of consideration. Yes, I have seen some of the specials on Discovery that say that this "condition" existed long before any of us walked the planet and I will be the first one to say it may be true, but I also know what I saw back in the 70's and 80's. I think the viewpoint women had back then was quite a bit different than today. I'm very good friends with one woman who not only feels she must date a tall male, but he must absolutely be of the "pretty boy" look (to quote her exact words). At least here in my corner of the Northeast many of the women I have chatted with are quite adamant on only dating tall men. Close minded or misled by today's social values? To me, a woman's height isn't that important.
I can only wonder if these very same women reflect on what could have been with that shorter than average male they blew off when they're in the lawyer's office filing their divorce decree to their former tall "McDreamy". | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/20/2008 7:08:27 PM | Meh. The whole height issue is really very annoying.
The idea that a woman would turn me down simply because I'm shorter than she is, while it's obviously her loss, doesn't do much for my self-confidence. Would you really pass on a guy who's got so much else going for him--and you--simply because you'd have to look down to see into his eyes?
Heck, I remember a woman who was crushing on me hard in college; I was surprised at the time, because I was a few inches shorter than she. Already, I'd been influenced by the "women should be shorter than men" propaganda.
I'm personally of the mindset that beautiful women come in all heights, skin tones, and hair/eye colors, among other things. Is it really so difficult for people to think this way? | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/20/2008 8:25:59 PM |
The idea that a woman would turn me down simply because I'm shorter than she is, while it's obviously her loss, doesn't do much for my self-confidence.
I've encountered a fair number of women who have a specific narrow height range that a guy must fall into. Shorter or taller is no good. This range has been as small as 1 inch. Online I've had women just ask me how tall I am and I answer and they come back and say I'm too tall if they answer at all. The online environment really let me find out they weren't just being nice because their real objection was 'too ugly' and were just trying to do a nice rejection. I would leave height out or not send a picture, etc to eliminate factors, so I don't think they were lying.
t I also know what I saw back in the 70's and 80's. I think the viewpoint women had back then was quite a bit different than today.
Sometimes I think I would have done much better dating before 1965 or so simply because of what sort of man was considered more desirable. But that is another thread entirely :) | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/20/2008 9:19:37 PM | Dating someone tall... it makes me feel really tiny. Which actually kind of annoys me. And it's a strain on the neck too. But if I really liked that person, it wouldn't matter- I'd just need a foot stool.
But seriously, it's not an issue for me. There is a certain height ratio that some women I know prefer in which their head is at the man's shoulder or chest so they feel protected or something when the guy holds them.
And while that's all nice, like with all preferences I get the feeling I'm not going to find my guy following all of my preferences, and I won't follow all of his. Life isn't clean cut like a jigsaw puzzle. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/21/2008 3:40:24 AM | | Many men will not date a woman who is large, but the men will gripe cause many women will only date tall men. Seems to be "the pot calling the kettle black" to me. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/21/2008 3:55:28 AM | I am not exceptionally tall (6'1")
My wife was pretty short (5'3")
I have dated women that are relatively short as well. Too, tall women.
Height is not an issue for me. More about their personality than anything else. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/21/2008 2:40:04 PM |
Many men will not date a woman who is large, but the men will gripe cause many women will only date tall men. Seems to be "the pot calling the kettle black" to me.
I've dated my share of overweight women in my years as I've been much more open-minded than many of my peers. I think there are more men who would date a large woman verses women who would date a shorter than average man.
Of course the whole "the pot calling the kettle black" thing could start with women who don't know the difference between "average", "a few extra pounds" and "bbw" but that's another thread. One's weight CAN be changed, it's impossible for one to change their height. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 1:47:02 PM | | The point that I was attempting to make was.....some men act act if women as so picky and shallow if the women will not date a man who is shorter than a certain height. Seems to be just as picky and shallow when the same men who are griping about the women being picky and shallow will not date a woman who is overweight....just my opinion of course, which is based on being a woman and knowing many women who are honest about our size and weight, and who will date a variety of men, whether they be short, average, tall, thin, or overweight, etc...... | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 2:06:17 PM | | As for the tall men, I feel sorry for you. You will never know if a woman truly loves you or is just with you and attracted to you for your height and other superficial reasons. If you’re in a relationship you should ask her, “If I was shorter [enter height] would you still have gotten to know me and date me?” | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 2:57:05 PM | I've always had a preference for tall men, simply because the short men I have known (ex-husband included), were insecure jerks......
But if I meet a "short" man (meaning around 5'6") who isn't an insecure jerks, well.....I could change my preferance..... | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 3:02:35 PM | | I prefer taller guys, 5'10 upwards. I'm only 5'1. I have no idea why, i just seem to find taller guys more appealing. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 3:21:54 PM | Ever since my divorce, every man I've dated has been anywhere from 6' to 6'4". None of them seemed to have a problem with it. I'm not opposed to dating shorter men since I'm only 5'2. Although there are definite advantages to being "picked up" for a kiss.. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 3:54:15 PM | | I love the very tall ones, tallest man I ever dated was 6'7". | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 5:42:57 PM | | ive dated tall women,short women,its not an issue for most men. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 9:46:20 PM | Agreed. In fact, I think most men only have issues with height insofar as they've had to be limited by them.
In this day and age, however, it tends to be women who set those limits. I've had my self-confidence tested by this several times, in some cases by women shorter than me.
But, I'm not bitter.  | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/22/2008 11:25:14 PM | Personally I like short ladies. Most often attracted to short medium build, well perportioned with dark hair and eyes. I don't like skinny or bony ladies. Not that I am so shallow, if someone is nice they are nice, I am just talking about what I find attractive and beautiful on the surface. While my perceptions might be uncommon, the point here is everyone has their own eye for beauty.  | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 2:17:46 AM | I am about 5'4 and personally height hasn't mattered. I have dated men upto 6'4 and my last boyfriend was 5'6. I think it's nice being short because I can date anyone and they will almost always be taller than me. Of course like you I'm doomed to always own a stepstool or climb on my kitchen counters to reach things. And, while I have deliberately stepped up on a stair to kiss a taller boyfriend, there are many bonuses to dating a taller man. Shorter men are fabulous too because they are the perfect height for getting naughty against a wall (if you know what I mean) and they don't have to pick me up or try to scrunch down !
I have never had a problem with height differences and am quite open to dating any size man! | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 10:04:57 AM |
Agreed. In fact, I think most men only have issues with height insofar as they've had to be limited by them. In this day and age, however, it tends to be women who set those limits. I've had my self-confidence tested by this several times, in some cases by women shorter than me. But, I'm not bitter. javascript:smilie('  ')
I have to agree 100% Dating women taller or shorter than myself has never been a problem for me. I've dated a woman ranging from 4'8 to 5'11" and I enjoyed the woman's company equally. The two women on the extreme edge of the range (4'8" and 5'11") never had any problem for the years we were involved either. I've also dated women 15+ years younger as well as 10 years older and age doesn't make a difference to me either.
Today, it certainly seems that it's women who are overly focused on such things as height. I would rather find this out before I ever meet someone as if a woman can't see her way past my height (or lack of it) they're the one who is going to be missing out. A friend use to have a saying, "you're the same height in bed."
Gee, am I a bit jaded when it comes to dating or what! javascript:smilie(' ') | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 2:41:18 PM | There has actually been limited research that shows that taller men are more likely to cheat and divorce than shorter men. Here's one of the limited studies.
Ulrich Mueller from the University of Marburg in Germany and his colleague Allan Mazur from Syracuse University, New York, studied a group of men who graduated in 1950 from the US military academy at West Point. They found that the taller men in the class tended to have more children, no matter what their rank. Taller men were also more likely to get divorced and remarry, and there was a good chance that their second wife would be younger than the first. The researchers will report the findings in a future issue of Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology.
In many ways the comments by a majority of the women on here who only want a tall guy prove this. The majority of women want tall men and the supply is only so large. First, not every woman is going to get the tall guy she wants. Second, if the taller men are in such demand then they have more opportunities to cheat then shorter men. Now not all tall men will cheat and divorce, but because they are so wanted they have more opportunities to cheat. Plus, from an evolutionary standpoint they are also more likely to cheat to pass on their superior genes. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 3:17:13 PM | | Sounds very similar to the program I saw on Discovery some months back. While they never came out and said "cheat" they did elude to the tall males "spreading their seed" with more female participants. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 7:49:23 PM | wows, sure hope so or I'm up you know what creek without a paddle. Not too many men under 4'11 that I've seen on any profiles, or in real life. Maybe I'm posting on the wrong site. Everyone is tall to me. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 7:50:09 PM |
In many ways the comments by a majority of the women on here who only want a tall guy prove this. The majority of women want tall men and the supply is only so large. First, not every woman is going to get the tall guy she wants. Second, if the taller men are in such demand then they have more opportunities to cheat then shorter men.
If this were true I wouldn't be bothering with a dating site. | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 8:02:17 PM | You're all giants to me. Heck, most 4th graders are taller, just waaaaaaaay too young.
Don't you all remember the song "Short People"? | |
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| short women/tall men Posted: 11/23/2008 8:18:37 PM | | Look at the research that's out there xeotide. It's true. | |
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