chinua
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Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 51 | |
| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 6:35:16 PM | ..the weiders knew it was cheating......and they still did it......you think they stoppped........yeah right....I will never believe it; maybe if they admit what they did. also; why don't they encourage the judges to mark the more feminine women higher???.you know..the ones who look like women; not drag queens......
as for body fat; some people have naturally low bodyfat; but that might be a good idea.
the implants......just look like mangos stuck to the chest.......doesn't make them anymore feminine.......just more like a freak..with 4 boobs instead of 2. If you didn't like the way she looked......you shouldn't have slept with her. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 6:54:12 PM |
why don't they encourage the judges to mark the more feminine women higher???.you know..the ones who look like women; not drag queens.
because it's called bodybuilding thats why they started the fitness competition industry, for the woman that are complaining about their positions because of feminity issues then they are in the wrong sport. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 7:07:19 PM | Weider's are marketing genuis's!! they have been pushing there 'products' for years and years and have used ever big name bodybuilder to sell them! its kinda funny I was in Venice beach about 2 years ago and was talking to Robby Robinson who was sponsered by the 'Weiders' in the 70's was and paid to hold up a can of protein mix, I asked Robbie what did you think of the products! he said it was S***! I dont use that S***! I use another companys instead it was called 'blairs protein' back in the 70's.. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 7:50:15 PM | I've known alot of people who took steroids so they could lift more weight.You don't need steroids to lift more .......you need to believe in yourself.IN OTHER WORDS............''YOU CAN DO IT!''
Where I train..............we encourage each other to lift more.We don't compete against each other.....we help each other......it makes all the diffference! | |
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chinua
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Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 55 | |
| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 9:42:57 PM | The first female bodybuilders......were gorgeous! .....remember gladys portugues??....back then they looked like strong feminine women.......until bev francis showed up........looking like a powerlifter........... they looked like what the fitness competitors look like now..and what the natural women look like; you can tell the difference.
Even if I wanted to do them; my small bone structure probably couldn't take the extra weight.......don't need them to get lean and vascular; i'm like that anyway. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/4/2006 10:05:54 PM |
Sorry to say but steroids will be here for a long time, so you better give up on your wish. The sport is getting crazy, for the 5 minute fame they have and take all thoses drugs, put their body thru hell. It's insane!!! Mr.Olympia is not drug tested and will never be. I agree that the woman are getting too muscular. Scary!!! One thing that gets me angry is that you see thoses bodybuilders get contracts with dietary supplements companies such as Muscletech, Nutrex, Vyo Tech, they pose in the magazines to promote or to claim that their gains were because thoses products....awww come on!!! Companies scam people just like all the ab machines sold on the TV promoting 5 minutes a day will give men with beer bellies a 6 pack!!! The general population get sucked in thoses ads or commercials!!! That's what fustrates me... I agree that if you look the period of Arnold, Frank Zane, Sergio Olivia, Franco Columbo, etc...and compare the present bodybuilders there is a big difference!!! Today They're monsters compared to Arnold's era back then. Why? Drugs are much more advanced and take unbelievable amounts. They combine with steroids stacks, insulin (which is the reason they have distented bellies), growth hormone, insulin growth factor-1. Not to mention all the different blockers they take to stop adverse effects of megadosing their drug use like Proscar for hair loss, Accutane for acne, Nolvadex for gyno, Nubain for pain from injuries. When dieting they take Clenbuterol which is similar to ephedrine but better, Cytomel or Syntroid which is tyroid regulator. The diuretics they use to get the ripped look like Lasik, they use diuretics to flush all the water out. Some of the bodybuilders I referred to before died of heart failure from lack of electrolytes in their body. With low or without sodium and potassium in your body it gives a imbalance causing cramping and other irregularities in muscle contraction. That's betting russian roulette with your life...if you ask me. This is the cold hard truth of pro bodybuilding...
Come on mang,
Ronnie Colemans that big because of Cell tech. I take it to !
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/5/2006 10:18:10 PM | | Speaking of female bodybuilding...Anja Langer was my Favourite back in the early days of female bodybuilding, but we have to understand that its human nature and evolution to get better and that involves bigger and bigger with a lower BF% , I do agree it has become a bit extreme, I think after about the 94 Mr.Olympia it got really nuts, my favourite era of bodybuilding personally was the 70's and even 80';s.. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/6/2006 7:08:25 AM | Even though they might have been juicing I think the lee labrada, frank zane look is much better than the Lee priest type look.
BTW how long do you think steroids have been used to supplament athletic performance?
I have read some things as the 50's or so. But strangely enough I was watching some espn classic last year and saw some early 80's major college football games and the starting Defensive linemen were in the 230-245lb range. Now even in college they are anywhere from 250lbs(undersized) to 300lbs. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/6/2006 7:40:42 AM | Steroids were used to enhance athletic performance since they day they were created, Hitler used to give his soldiers testosterone (no choice) to enhance their aggression during fighting.
and although they never had anabolics back in Roman times it has been recorded that those first Olympians were drinking their own special mixtures in private believing it would give them a distinct advantage over the competition. | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/7/2006 7:11:11 PM | | It's just human nature...to have the drive to be the best, to have the edge from everybody else. Plain and simple!!! | |
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chinua
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Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 61 | |
| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/7/2006 9:58:34 PM | I'm pretty sure steroids were originally used; to help people heal from injury. I've known people with different medical conditions who have been prescribed steroids........by their Drs.
Isn't that what steroids do? Help your muscles heal faster .....so they grow faster??? | |
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| Would you ever juice?
Posted: 6/8/2006 7:56:47 AM | Steroids works by increasing the body's ability to utilize protein, allowing an athlete to train with greater intensity without going into negative nitrogen balance, increase the ability to build muscle mass, increase the ability to build strength, increase the ability to build endurance and acts as an anti-inflammatory, both helping to protect the body from injury and speeding up recovery after injury has occurred.
However, taking steroids does not automatically produce the effects above. Far from it!!! None of these benefits is reached without a regimen of hard, consistent training,diet and rest.
Steroids allow athletes to train harder, longer and more often without becoming overtrained, and allow them to benefit from this type of more intense workout.
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/8/2006 5:06:59 PM | | Don't do juice its not worth it... a friend of mine had a heart attack at 21 from doing roids and other drugs. If you can't do it naturally then don't do it. I don't want to pay for your hospital bills in my taxes | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/8/2006 6:19:30 PM | heart attack at 21....these are the kind of stories you hear about all the time.
Now I'm not endorsing steroids, never would do that. But these are the stories you hear about, people stacking the shit out of these products. You never hear about people being put on a perscription of steroids and coming off them. Why? Because a doctor takes into account your body weight and such, what you need them for and goes from there.
The most used and abused steroid out there IMO is Dianabol (sp?) also know as D-Bol, which is conveniently almost always stacked with Winstrol (stanozolol). People dope these up in the 400mg+/day range, where as a doctor will proscribe you a steroid (not either one of those) in the 20mg/day MAX area.
Kids and yes I say kids hear they're friends talking about it. Do absolutely NO research whatsoever into it and take the shit just wanting to get BIG. These are the kids that fall to the abuse of this product and in turn destory there bodies because of it. Do you honeslty think that someone like Greg Valentino is going to live a long and healthy life? Not one chance in hell  .
It's because of the current promotion in bodybuilding with guys getting freakishly HUGE like Coleman that you see a surge with these style drugs. Being big doesn't denote strength, infact talk to most body builders and they'll tell you a 14year old kid could push them over after a competition they're THAT weak.
This sport needs a turn around at some point.... | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/9/2006 7:06:50 PM | The following is a very true story of a friend of mine years that used steroids. His last name was Queen. All went well for several months. Looked good all buffed up. Then he quit because of an injury. Well steroids affect people differently. Saw him in the gym a few months later and in the chest, he had become a queen. I had never seen a guy with female breasts up till then. Made me stay away from them. And him!  | |
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chinua
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Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 66 | |
| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/9/2006 8:01:26 PM | | ^^^that's how some guys get breast cancer; he was taking something with extra estrogen..........he might need surgery. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/9/2006 10:55:46 PM | The guys that get gyno, it's their own fault...some steroids convert to estrogen. Their is some blockers that will block those effects, like Nolvedex, Femera, etc. If the person is stupid enough to take stuff before doing some research on the effects of that steroid. Not smart, it's his own fault!!!
Suffer the effects!!!! | |
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chinua
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Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 68 | |
| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 6/10/2006 8:33:06 AM | exactly........someone didn't research.......when you put something foreign in your body......find out as much as you can.........;but then some people trust who's giving it to them........completely....... | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/24/2007 4:39:22 PM | I've juiced for about on and off for 6 years. I always get my blood work done, especially lipids and liver panel. Never had had anything to worry about. Why I do it? I do it for myself. When I started the gear I got off antidepressants and stop drinking alcohol. I don't compete, but I feel good. Im not selfish, self-centered, or vain. I don't advocate them but don't condemn their use. Always make sure where you are at health wise before taking any supplements.
Look at this clip and maybe you will change your mind on what people think they know about steroids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0LEj8IPHGU | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/25/2007 9:36:11 AM | | Nope I have no intention or desire to get huge,on the otherhand people who juice its there body let them do whatever they want inmop. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/25/2007 2:26:53 PM | | Steroids are illegal and cheating, I have been working out at the gym for about 18 years, I have people who claim that I am juicing, I hate it that they would put me into the same ranks as those guys. I worked hard and seeing someone cheat and get result in a years time by taking drugs sickens me. I am genetically skinny and was told I would never get big without steroids, I am living proof that those guys have no clue. I weigh 198 of "pure" muscle. I don't have the granite looking skin or in other words skin that lloks like the end os a sausage when cut. I don't have the full elongated jaw, and I can go three months without working out and still have my physique. My muscle memory is quick and if I go long periods without working out (injury) it takes a week to get back. Can juicers say the same or do they need juice to bounce back, and whatever happened to Arnold, man I know my body won't waste away like that. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/25/2007 2:34:45 PM | | Alaska, so true, I know very few people on steroids that stay in good physical form after they get off steroids or get injured. I have no sympathy for them. The few I know that stay in shape lost all the size but stay in shapoe by doing more aerobics. Like I said previously, I had broken an arm and leg but bounced back in a week after doctors gave me the ok to lift. Too some steroid users this is unbelievable, but I have medical documentation and waivers that prove it. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/25/2007 9:39:17 PM | The problem with guys taking steroids is they tend to do it so soon in their career. Unless your squatting and deading over 400lbs while being able to bench 300 at a good bodyweight, forget roiding. Most guys at my gym who roid are pansies and sit on the machines doing bullshit pump workouts. However, the trend I have seen is when these guys have got off the juice, they have lost a tremendous amount of muscle mass and couldn't lift that much weight at all.
So, is it right to juice or not? I know I will never do it, but if others want to, I think they should do their research before injecting the needle(forget pills unless you want your liver focked up). I think steroids are for the advanced lifter(been training frequently for at least 7 years) and have a good nutritional diet and great sleeping patterns. Only then will steroids benefit the individual, otherwise, it will only offer them very little benefit if they are missing any of the essential factors(eating, training, sleeping). | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/26/2007 10:41:16 AM | A friend of mine, who was a bodybuilder, was trying to get me into it. He said I had the perfect build for it, and he knew some people with the right connections to get steroids.
I said...."Ummmm.....NO ! "
It's just not worth it, and goes against the way I see physical fitness. It's man against man, not pharmacist against pharmacist. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids]
Posted: 8/27/2007 3:43:55 AM | I would never touch steroids or other performance drugs for several reasons,
1) I value my health too much, and whilst many high level athletes and bodybuilders have probably done a lot of research to minimise side affects, I still wouldn't risk it.
2) I enjoy an active lifestyle, these drugs could change all that if I had bad side effects or got seriously ill from them
3) I have better things to spend my money on
4) Most people will agree there is more to life than being excessively big
5) I wouldn't trust the source, sometimes you may not get what you think you are getting.
I guess many guys take them because of the body image problems many men seem to be facing now. | |
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