| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/27/2007 7:39:00 PM | My sister was a female body builder back in the day- she won all kinds of competitions. She juiced big time- she pays for it everyday now. I have friends I went to school with - guys who juiced. One is dead from brain cancer and one committed suicide. I don't know - is it worth it- I don't think so.
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/28/2007 10:20:52 AM | they can be done safely??? Did someone fail to mention that to Lyle Alzado and my friend who died of brain cancer directly associated with steroid use-My sister must have forgotten to read that safe steroid memo also as she now has the lasting health affects of steroid abuse. Your kidding yourself. My friends owned a gym- they were all big body builders in competitions. My sister included. I think as health conscious as they wanted everyone to believe they were- they failed miserably by shooting that crap in thier ass cheeks. okay then.
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/28/2007 4:47:12 PM | | I ssteroids legal in any sport. Barry Bonds is nothing compared to Hank Aaron, I pretty sure if Hank Aaron can set the record without steroids their should be another human being capable to do the same. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/29/2007 10:18:32 AM | Yes they can be done safely, in fact they can keep you healthier longer and help you recover from injuries much faster than without.
Everyone that has read some retarded sensationalized headline in a newspaper feels that they are now an educated professional on steroids effects on the body. Unless you can tell me what steroids are androgenic or aromatizing, and why anti-estrogens are used just keep quiet.
Would I ever juice?
Probably not. Only time I would think about it would be a nice 4 week cut cycle. I hate needles though, so I guess that would be a never. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/30/2007 8:50:31 AM | I have read nothing on them- I am only going by what I have been through with my sister- thats all. Im not sensationalizing it- this is her life now. I actually was just talking to my sister about this- She seems to think that at the time she was doing it that she also would instill that safety issue. Her regiment was - 400mg of Testosterone 50mg of Anadrol 200mg of Deca She now has male pattern baldness, must shave every day and has kidney, liver and heart problems. She also told me to tell you that two of her closest bodybuilding friends are dead from brain cancer directly related to steroid use. Im done here. You can say that they are safe until the cows come home. They are not. Stop kidding yourself. She was also under a Doctors care while on this regiment. A Medical Doctor who was suppose to be monitoring her and was also illegally selling them. Yes- she also got investigated by the Feds. curlygrl~ | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/30/2007 2:37:40 PM | ^^^ you're more likely to die from smoking "often".
There is no proof that steroids cause brain cancer. That being said, a lot of people can really hurt themselves if they don't know what they're doing or are dumbasses about it. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/30/2007 3:17:29 PM | ^^^ Im just posting here what I know and from experience with my family and friends. I have seen what abuse of steroids can do. Thats all. Im sorry I ever came on this thread. My experience with this issue has been critisized over and over here- I don't know you people. I don't care what you do. Im just telling you what happened to us because of steroids. My sister has tons of trophys and titles that are meaningless now. My sister used steroids in her 20's and 30's. She is now 47.
Im sorry I ever posted here.
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/30/2007 3:25:20 PM | It's fine that you posted an experience, however, there is no proof that steroids caused the cancer. The stuff that your sister is going through is definite side effects - almost anything you put in your body, in excess, will most likely cause some sort of side effects - that's all.
If people know the side effects and have thoroughly researched what they are putting in their bodies, as well as be careful then I see no real harm in it.
There's no harm in stating your opinion cause we all have one. :) | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/31/2007 5:48:04 AM | Lyle Alzado claimed his cancer was from steroid use, doctors all said it was not true.. ...
Your friends cancer was also not from steroid use, if it was prostate cancer I might say therres a chance, but not brain cancer..
There are zero deaths recorded that are directly linked to steroids, just so you know...
and yes, I use, im healthy, and im a competitive bodybuilder. I also own a gym and know plenty of users, all who are healthy and use correctly.
watch Bryant Gumbels episode on steroids, he dispels a lot of myths on the subject...
they can be done safely??? Did someone fail to mention that to Lyle Alzado and my friend who died of brain cancer directly associated with steroid use-My sister must have forgotten to read that safe steroid memo also as she now has the lasting health affects of steroid abuse. Your kidding yourself. My friends owned a gym- they were all big body builders in competitions. My sister included. I think as health conscious as they wanted everyone to believe they were- they failed miserably by shooting that crap in thier ass cheeks. okay then. | |
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| Would you ever juice? Posted: 8/31/2007 6:00:22 AM | No, actually, he's right, they were first used by the germans to bolster aggression (in very large doses too) and create some 'super' soldiers. The medicinal uses of them never arose till the 70's...
I'm pretty sure steroids were originally used; to help people heal from injury. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 8/31/2007 9:30:24 PM | My best friend did roids at an early age, once the body got the attention their was no stop, fake people, real people they all gave some respect from the size..... it was what it was for like five years until he found out he could no longer have kids...it only made it worse, now there was a valid excuse, at seventeen we both had a choice, I choose to have bigger nuts..... | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/1/2007 9:58:05 PM | I totally forgot that explainign to people how cycles work and what they can do is off topic in a steroids thread.
If there was ever a use for the word asinine, that was it.
Anyway, steroids haven't been proven to cause cancer, but they will shorten your life if you abuse them. Juice at your own risk, lol.
Also, the feds would love to throw you in jail. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/1/2007 10:31:19 PM | | While it is unfortunate that Lyle Alzado died at 43, it should be pointed out that despite his claims that the steroids caused brain cancer, doctors could not pin it to them as the poster above mentioned. Bear in mind it was reported that Alzado had used for 20 consecutive years, without any time off between cycles. Now there have been cases where people with muscle wasting diseases, leukemia, cancer, HIV/AIDS were prescribed powerful 17 Alpha Alkylated Anadrol HAVE DEVELOPED cirrosis and liver cancer as a result of ingesting 75-100mg per day for a period of five years. Again you take your chances anytime you decide to juice. Though I'm not going to suggest that people do them, those who decide to do so, I would suggest researching everything especially if you are considering it, whether it be scoring it off a gym rat or getting prescribed Hormone Replacement Therapy, whatever the case do your research on the legality of them, etc. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/6/2007 10:24:13 PM | | Steroids can cause impotence. And a whole host of other problems. If bigger muscles are worth the trade off for you, go for it, I guess. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/6/2007 10:30:57 PM |
Steroids can cause impotence. And a whole host of other problems. If bigger muscles are worth the trade off for you, go for it, I guess.
Why thank you oh Mr. Informed poster who posts crap without backing up his assertations in the slightest.
Take a slight bit of test on a cycle and you won't be impotent, that's for damn sure. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/7/2007 5:02:15 AM | ^^^ I completely agree. did a relatively small cycle of cypionate about 5 years ago for 12 weeks (8 on cyp.) and had no choice but to sleep on my back the whole time. The now EX loved it as she thought I was an amusement ride and I could never get her off the dam thing.<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> 
...and once I was off there were no problems at all because I am one of those guys who knows his sh.it. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/7/2007 8:25:36 AM | I said "can" cause impotence, not "will" cause impotence. Please try to read more carefully.
There are numerous studies that back up my assertions, but I'm not going to quote them in detail here or even list them. Why should I? People can do their own research. I also don't see any of the people who are saying that steroids can be used safely backing up their assertions. In which case I suppose we can apply the first line of your response to them, too. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/7/2007 8:43:37 AM | | No way. It might be beneficial in the gym, but that's all. There's far too many health risks involved that just aren't worth it. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/8/2007 7:47:45 PM | Absolutely, steroids, testosterone, etc. can cause impotence if abused or not used correctly. Your body's test levels will be depressed when you come off them, therefore, post cycle therapy conisting of drugs such as: Human Chorionic Gonadtropin (or HCG), Clomid and Nolvadex are a must to "normalize" your T levels.
Now stay on the gear for YEARS, come off without any PCT and it's no suprise if you have a soft noodle for awhile. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/8/2007 8:27:40 PM | | I think when people say using steroids, they automatically assume you are going to juice like some professional bodybuilder. Not everyone juices to become some behemoth crazily huge muscled out freak. If you use correctly, there aren't many side effects you have to worry about at all. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/8/2007 9:19:29 PM | Close this thread. People ARE morons because they are brainwashed by the media into believing that steroids are terrible...worse than coke, crack, and heroin. The media and our society is overwhelmingly fault finding, so everyone, our athletes especially are under constant scrutiny. Drop it. Anything in excess is bad. Should a novice bodybuilder, or an athlete under 18 start a cycle of Trenbolone and Anadrol? Hell no. Should someone who casually smokes cigarettes, begin chain smoking a few packs per day? No. Horrible analogy, but if you overdo it, and don't do things correctly, of course things are going to be screwed up. Testosterone and any other anabolic androgenic steroid for that matter along with Growth Hormone, Insulin and peptides such as MGF and IGF-1 are powerful hormones to mess around with if you don't know what you are doing. It all involves VERY precise planning.
While I'm not suggesting that people do them, I am saying if you are going to argue about them being bad, do your research to back up your assertation. If you plan on using them, again do your research, however going natural and legal is preffered.
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/8/2007 9:50:12 PM | Hell, they deleted the Obesity thread because people couldn't face the fact that being fat is a choice. Why not delete this one for pointing out steroids aren't bad if used properly?
Just delete this. | |
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| Would you ever juice?[use steroids] Posted: 9/27/2009 2:13:14 PM | | Oh yeah if I could get my hands on them there as good as in !! Life's too short to worry about everything might as well do what you want when you want and look how you want, who cares what other people think and say its your life live it your way | |
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