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Posted: 10/20/2009 1:36:28 AM | Well, I'd love to wear stilettos but I can't walk in them. I mean, it's a sight for sore feet. I just wobble and fall over which isn't all that sexy (unless you're German).
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Posted: 10/20/2009 6:30:46 AM | Well, I'd love to wear stilettos but I can't walk in them.
Sigh....Yet another fantasy quashed......
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Posted: 10/20/2009 11:24:09 AM | | When men wear stockings and low cut, up the crotch dresses, so will I - along with the high heels and make up, until then going to dress like men do - comfortably xx OP good luck with this one | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 11:40:09 AM | The OP, RDtoo
it occurred to me how much I miss women wearing dresses, stockings, etc. To me that was the real feminine mystique. It also makes me think that our culture was more sexual 40 years ago when women wore these things than it is now. Ok, fire away at me....
A female poster, koko2392
spend about six hours last monday for a date shaving every thing wearing fish net stocking tide dress fixing hair and makeup sexy under clothing ended up at the looking dum he show up wearing shorts and that mad me mad all he did was talk about x-girl
It occurs to me how much I miss men being men and no whiners. It seems to be an epidemic among them.
It occurs to me that men are now and have always been the leaders, yet we are working on a third generation of women, who have not seen them lead.
It occurs to me that most women are still wearing dresses and many of us are wearing them a lot more than we are pants. So, we are no longer feminie in pants? I am somehow not a woman, not feminine, not desireable if I wear them?
It occurs to me that women had to start wearing pants more because males were no longer willing to do the things that cannot be done by a woman in a dress.
It occurs to me that mystique is in the eye of the beholder. One must like and genuinely be interested in someone to see any mystique or attractiveness of any kind.
It occurs to me, while reading a book, watching movies, reading history and actual historical writings from individuals that sex dominates every age and era equally, but one thing has never seemed to change and that is that men want women to dress up to meet their individual fantasy, whatever and whoever that may be. Men crave bendable, posable, costume changing, pull the string and specific line speaking, predictable dolls.
It occurs to me that women accommodate because we like some of those things too. We were made to fit together, made to compliment each other.
It occurs to me that belief that this is not a given, or that one must search long and hard for a fitting mate is absurd, when 100's are available each and everyday, unless ones location is truly the issue.
The biggest fallacy of our time is that there was a sexual revolution that changed everything. So a few lesbian made a stand on tv and most women only verbally expressed their desire not to be beaten, to be paid equally when they actually do more work, not the same, and that they do not like being treated as property. So what? Big fricking deal. Nothing else really happened, nothing. This is what this 45-60 yr old generation of men are always holding up as the issue of why men and women cannot get together. This is their excuse as to why they no longer lead and act like men? Don't even try to say it isn't because just right on this website there is easily over a million statements by men stating this.
It occurs to me that what koko2392 says above is an everyday occurence.
It occurs to me that the only thing that changed in this country and made a massive change for and to everyone, is that individuality became a commodity.
We are all individuals and have always been, but as soon as the media put forth the notion that no one really had value unless they stood out as different from the rest, THEN we spiralled down as a nation and a people.
People became fake and press daily for their own likes, dislikes and thoughts to be highly valued by everyone else, or they are set at odds with one another.
People demand to be lauded and adored as if they are some kind of Greek God or Goddess. If others do not comply, they will pay the price of an insubordinate, or insurrectionist.
People who truly are individuals, walking to the beat of a different drum, became hated and demonized, pushed out of society and abused by everyone.
In this collective desperation to prove individuality, society unconsciously tries to balance by becoming cookie cutter likenesses of each other in many areas. We demand political correctness, that everyone must wear the same designer clothing or be labelled as trash, we must think the same and act the same. Instead of allowing smaller cliques, people are pushing for one giant clique. The world must For gods sake do not have a radical new idea, only think like the rest of the group so no one feels they are not equally creative.
We cannot even go to the grocery store anymore and get variety, in this super sonic age of transportation, we are all expected to eat the same 100 items.
We have to find heros on television because heros are not allowed to walk among us, they must comply so that they do not offend anyone by making them feel less.
It occurs to me that people should open their eyes and see that the sexual revolution is a self-made fantasy belief. The actual and real occurence was not even a drop in the bucket, not even a mist over the ocean, it was so insignificant and small. It is the Individualist Revolution, or Individualism that has torn men and women apart AND also families, the family unit, this country, this great nation. The "all for one and one for one and that one is me" attitude that has destroyed and taken us down.
I know it seems very complicated because it spawns the collective group think mindset, but that is the unconsious way of trying to balance the destruction of individualism. If it worked, you would see it dominate culture in history, but it is rare in history and always ends in devastation.
Stop thinking about what you want and what you can get and start thinking about what you can give, period.
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Posted: 10/20/2009 11:48:32 AM |
It occurs to me that men are now and have always been the leaders, yet we are working on a third generation of women, who have not seen them lead.
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Posted: 10/20/2009 12:28:13 PM | I think some posters hit the nail on the head about women dressing up. We dress up only to find out the guy is in jeans or shorts. I love to wear my stockings, but daggone, if my fiance is in jeans, I think it looks funny.
Restaurants that used to have dress codes, tie and jacket etc., no longer do. Now they let you in with jeans. As jeans cost more than dress pants, it isn't the economy that makes people dress down, it really comes down to people all wanting to look the same by wearing blue jeans...ugh... | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 1:04:21 PM | | I agree with Debbie! I'm 51, menopausal, etc. but I'm dressing up as a french maid for Halloween! I'm totally looking forward to it. I've always wanted to have that costume again. When I was about 5 months pregnant I dressed as a french maid and no one even knew I was pregnant! | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 1:51:47 PM | Oh Jesus! When did this thread turn into a blue-blood version of What Not To Wear?!
That's just it, if I'm going to make the effort or getting all dressed up I don't want the guy I'm with to look like he just got done cleaning the bathroom. I like a guy to put forth the effort too with a nice suitcoat and some nice fitting dress pants.
There are some places where I work that if I brought someone in jeans with me, I might not be able to work there again. When it affects my income or career it makes me a little cranky.
I remember a Bonnie Hunt asking Tim Gunn (yes I know) why he is always impeccably dressed and he said he just felt it shows respect for the people around him.
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Posted: 10/20/2009 2:12:15 PM | WindRoper
As jeans cost more than dress pants did you read that? Clearly I say jeans cost MORE. My whole point is it isn't about cost of clothing because JEANS COST MORE. This is my point that it has NOTHING to do with costing less to dress in jeans, THEY COST MORE. I am saying that EVERYONE is wearing them! I am saying that EVERYONE is dressing the same...no freaking blue blood comment and I really resent that! You so need to read threads I have posted on and started. I am so totally not into what you have, but who you are, but wearing JEANS EVERYONE LOOKS THE SAME. I personally don't care to look like everyone else...I don't get why EVERYONE wants to wear jeans. They aren't more comfortable either. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 2:58:59 PM | And what you don't get is the blue blood comment is NOT about how much ANYTHING costs. It's about looking down your nose at someone cuz you don't care for their choice of whatever. So what if everyone is wearing them?! Everyone is driving cars too. Got a problem with THAT?! If you don't wanna look like everyone else, then get plastic surgery and have her nose put on your chin or something. Otherwise, you look like everyone else cuz we're all human beings. You're not as special as you thought. Get over it already.
If you don't think jeans are comfortable it's probably cuz you buy jeans that "cost more than dress pants" and possibly wear your clothes too tight. Go get yourself some relaxed fit Levis, Lees or Wranglers. BTW, some jeans cost more than dress pants cuz they last longer. They're practical.
As for the previous poster talking about business functions and complaining about a man wearing jeans when she has dolled herself up, admittedly jeans are not always appropriate. I never claimed they were. But I've also been to business functions where most people wore jeans but management strictly forbade us. Boy howdy! Did THEY look like a buncha fools. And my man looks d*** fine in his jeans. I'd hang on his arm proudly in an evening gown and glare at any woman who admired his fine a** too closely. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 3:25:42 PM | MissMewsic
Bonnie Hunt asking Tim Gunn ... I had no idea who they were so I googled them . Bonnies is great and Tim looks like he is as pretty as Bonnie LOL ...
I just want someone to put forth an effort to look nice for me.
No Problem . ^^^^^^^^^^
Us guys did not just fall off the truck and I don't know who some of you ladies are dateing . I have trouble wraping my head around what you are saying . If I am meeting a lady at a place I have never been I ask whats the dress?If I am around a bunch of pompus people I just don't say a lot ? Even at thease places I find lots people to have fun with and be around . If I am constantly dressing up and watching what I say ..I have to move on. At company Christmas parties I will always put my best foot foward . But on the way home I might be kinda frisky ... LOL
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Posted: 10/20/2009 3:46:05 PM | No Problem . ^^^^^^^^^^
Us guys did not just fall off the truck and I don't know who some of you ladies are dateing . I have trouble wraping my head around what you are saying . If I am meeting a lady at a place I have never been I ask whats the dress?If I am around a bunch of pompus people I just don't say a lot ? Even at thease places I find lots people to have fun with and be around . If I am constantly dressing up and watching what I say ..I have to move on. At company Christmas parties I will always put my best foot foward . But on the way home I might be kinda frisky ... LOL
Tonight it's Jeans a jacket and boots and C/W Dance Lessons
You know Dave, when in Rome..............................
I wouldn't want someone to be walking on eggshells with me everywhere they go. I've found the upper crust to be pretty nice, normal people - they're just well educated for the most part. They are appreciative of my talents and treat me very well. I found lower class to be rude and inconsiderate more often. I grew up on welfare and my mother scraped by to pay for my piano lessons so I don't put myself above anyone. I think at least trying to have some decorum wherever you are can't hurt. I had dated a couple of guys who were alcoholics when I was younger and I just dreaded going anywhere with them because they could never keep it together. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 4:14:56 PM | MissMewsic
I was commenting that some artsy stuff is not my cup of tea . Some artsy things such as the Theatre is painful to me . That's ok some people are put in pain bye some of the things I enjoy . And being with you would not make me walk on egg shells . I really think I failed at making myself clear to you . When I said "I would have to move on " it was just a statement with no emotion . It was not even pointed at you . xoxoxo
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I never thought you put youself above others ....
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Posted: 10/20/2009 4:59:16 PM |
Also maybe the reason God made men like Tim Gunn so ladies will have escorts to the things I feel are painful...
Dave, that is a good point. I learned at a fairly young age that this was so. I soooo enjoy a male friend that likes to do artistic things. No physical attraction whatsoever, just a mutual love of arts.
My father was born in 1939 in a wealthy family. Those two things alone meant he would be used to a lifetime learned appreciation of art, like most wealthy men of that era. My father understood the need for the development and appreciation of arts as part of the structure of a healthy society. He also saw great beauty in art. I saw my dad shed a tear more than once during a moving operatic aria.
Mind you, my dad was very ruggedly handsome and incredibly earthy, but he was that rare and heady mix of both those and educated sophistication. The likes of which I have never truly found an equal to, but came very close once. It has only been in this last decade that I have truly understood how rare my dad was. I am more attracted to the earthy types, but being very artistic myself I do have an interest in the arts and a lot of men just wouldn't understand a woman even having a gay male friend, or one that isn't gay going to things with her, but still there is absolutely no attraction. It is a hard bill to fill when a woman is attracted to polar opposite interests. This is why I have given up many artistic endeavors, but it hasn't helped. Many men tell me they do not think they could satisfy my sophisticated side. I am always a bit shocked because I cannot see myself and do not know what it is they see. I feel I have all but totally killed it, but apparently there are things I cannot change in myself that men see as larger than they are. I cannot change my upbringing, so what is a woman to do?
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Posted: 10/20/2009 5:21:35 PM | It's about looking down your nose at someone cuz you don't care for their choice of whatever. And exactly how is commenting on how everyone looking the same is looking down my nose. Stop reflecting yourself onto others. You obviously have not read any of my posts. Dressing like everyone else is boring. I know daggone well you got your tattoo to be different not to look like everyone else...you have had that picture up for what 2 years?
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Posted: 10/21/2009 7:37:44 AM |
And exactly how is commenting on how everyone looking the same is looking down my nose.
To say everyone dresses/looks the same as if it is a negative thing instead of the result of practical natures and/or mass production is judging which is looking down one's nose IMHO.
Dressing like everyone else is boring.
I guess we all could spin, weave and sew in an effort to not offend your delicate senses and need for artistic non-conformity.
You obviously have not read any of my posts.
I obviously read these few and I've probably seen some others but, no, I didn't research you... probably cuz I'm not a lesbian so I have no interest in you... and you are not EF Hutton.
I know daggone well you got your tattoo to be different not to look like everyone else
Really?! News to me! DO tell me more, all-knowing-one. With the increasing interest in skin art as well as so much flash work and, more recently, cultural/tribal designs getting tats isn't much of a way to be different. Personally, I'm a firm believer in there being nothing new under the Sun and all such efforts being vanity. I believe that is found in Ecclesiastes, but your milage may vary.
you have had that picture up for what 2 years?
Yes. I am unapologetically technologically challenged in addition to being uninterested in purchasing gadgetry to put pics online. It's just not a priority for me, especially since I've been in a relationship for over a year now.
Stretch jeans...oh yeah, now that is a look...
Stretch?! Who said anything about stretch?! Relaxed fit is simply a little looser cut. But, please, feel free to continue with demonstrations of your ignorance of anything beneath your lofty station in life and high opinion of yourself.  | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 8:01:09 AM | I'm reminded of the old joke circulating in the 80s listing 101 reasons why a cucumber is better than a man. My personal fave was "A cucumber will not wear a leisure suit to your office Christmas party." | |
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